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	<title>Comments on: The only good abortion is my&#160;abortion</title>
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		<title>By: Amy Seger</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/20/the-only-good-abortion-is-my-a.html#comment-1455994</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Seger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 05:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I want to say thank you for writing this post. You&#039;ve shown a lot of courage by being so open and honest about your situation. I hope you are able to have a healthy pregnancy whenever you wish to try again and get to take a baby home with you at the end. 

Second, I want to agree with your astericks - or at least the one that I can speak to. Yes, when you are pregnant and don&#039;t want to be all of your options suck. I found myself in that situation many years ago and after realizing that *I* couldn&#039;t bring myself to have an abortion and deciding to find an adoptive family (a difficult choice as well, since I&#039;ve always wanted children), I then miscarried. It was painful, both emotional and physically. I thought that I still had months to come to terms with letting this baby go to another family, and instead I had to say goodbye overnight. Even after this experience, though, and finding that I couldn&#039;t have that procedure done on me, I&#039;m still pro-choice. My decision would not have changed about whether or not to continue that pregnancy, though if I&#039;d discovered that there were serious problems with the fetus, I&#039;m not sure what my decision at that point would have been - or if it even would have been my choice any longer, as I&#039;d elected to place my baby with another family. More importantly, the choice should always rest with the person who is carrying the fetus - and her partner if she chooses to include them in the decision. It still amazes me how many preconceptions there are around abortion and that anyone would think that a woman would or could make that decision lightly.I was lucky to know a woman who had adopted all 3 of her children and a woman who had been adopted as a toddler and another who was in the process of placing her newborn with a couple who would make a great home for that child. Seeing all of those faces of adoption made it easier for me to make that decision ...... but it didn&#039;t make it any easier to deal with the emotional effects of having a miscarriage. I&#039;ve found bits and pieces of healing through the years, and I now have a wonderful daughter who turned 5 last month, whom I have cherished more than I thought would be possible *because* I know how fragile life is now.Again, thank you. It&#039;s important that women stop being silent about the pain that is caused by these decisions. Maybe if we all start sharing our stories more openly, some of the misconceptions will be changed. Maybe another woman will be more prepared for the possibility of a spontaneous abortion. Maybe another woman will not feel so alone if it happens to her. Maybe if we all speak up just a little more, we can make the world a more understanding place - which can only make it better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I want to say thank you for writing this post. You&#8217;ve shown a lot of courage by being so open and honest about your situation. I hope you are able to have a healthy pregnancy whenever you wish to try again and get to take a baby home with you at the end. </p>
<p>Second, I want to agree with your astericks &#8211; or at least the one that I can speak to. Yes, when you are pregnant and don&#8217;t want to be all of your options suck. I found myself in that situation many years ago and after realizing that *I* couldn&#8217;t bring myself to have an abortion and deciding to find an adoptive family (a difficult choice as well, since I&#8217;ve always wanted children), I then miscarried. It was painful, both emotional and physically. I thought that I still had months to come to terms with letting this baby go to another family, and instead I had to say goodbye overnight. Even after this experience, though, and finding that I couldn&#8217;t have that procedure done on me, I&#8217;m still pro-choice. My decision would not have changed about whether or not to continue that pregnancy, though if I&#8217;d discovered that there were serious problems with the fetus, I&#8217;m not sure what my decision at that point would have been &#8211; or if it even would have been my choice any longer, as I&#8217;d elected to place my baby with another family. More importantly, the choice should always rest with the person who is carrying the fetus &#8211; and her partner if she chooses to include them in the decision. It still amazes me how many preconceptions there are around abortion and that anyone would think that a woman would or could make that decision lightly.I was lucky to know a woman who had adopted all 3 of her children and a woman who had been adopted as a toddler and another who was in the process of placing her newborn with a couple who would make a great home for that child. Seeing all of those faces of adoption made it easier for me to make that decision &#8230;&#8230; but it didn&#8217;t make it any easier to deal with the emotional effects of having a miscarriage. I&#8217;ve found bits and pieces of healing through the years, and I now have a wonderful daughter who turned 5 last month, whom I have cherished more than I thought would be possible *because* I know how fragile life is now.Again, thank you. It&#8217;s important that women stop being silent about the pain that is caused by these decisions. Maybe if we all start sharing our stories more openly, some of the misconceptions will be changed. Maybe another woman will be more prepared for the possibility of a spontaneous abortion. Maybe another woman will not feel so alone if it happens to her. Maybe if we all speak up just a little more, we can make the world a more understanding place &#8211; which can only make it better.</p>
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		<title>By: robin baker</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/20/the-only-good-abortion-is-my-a.html#comment-1455990</link>
		<dc:creator>robin baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 05:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I miscarried at about 10 weeks. I did not have excessive pain, but heavy bleeding, &quot;like a bad period&quot;. But in my heart it was INCREDIBLY painful. And agonizing because I had had a &quot;theraputic&quot; abortion when I was much younger. Luckily I was pregnant again within a year, with the outcome of a beautiful bouncing baby boy. so abortion may not be &quot;always painful and agonizing&quot; physically, it is often enough at least psychologically. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I miscarried at about 10 weeks. I did not have excessive pain, but heavy bleeding, &#8220;like a bad period&#8221;. But in my heart it was INCREDIBLY painful. And agonizing because I had had a &#8220;theraputic&#8221; abortion when I was much younger. Luckily I was pregnant again within a year, with the outcome of a beautiful bouncing baby boy. so abortion may not be &#8220;always painful and agonizing&#8221; physically, it is often enough at least psychologically. </p>
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		<title>By: Keri Ripp</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/20/the-only-good-abortion-is-my-a.html#comment-1455986</link>
		<dc:creator>Keri Ripp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 05:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My second pregnancy ended in a partial miscarriage, was then deemed was ectopic, and I did what is essentially a chemical abortion with methotrexate.  I feel for you.  It is never an easy decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My second pregnancy ended in a partial miscarriage, was then deemed was ectopic, and I did what is essentially a chemical abortion with methotrexate.  I feel for you.  It is never an easy decision.</p>
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		<title>By: fiatrn</title>
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		<dc:creator>fiatrn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 04:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as far as I can tell, the mighty disqus ate my comment on this thread.  Am I the only one that has trouble with disqus pretty much every time I try to post?  Anyway -- well, I found my post after reposting, and still dislike disqus.  So I&#039;ll sort of erase it and say this:


maggie
What you have done here is create something beautiful.  Your heartfelt sharing of a story has clearly echoed in the minds of literally hundreds of posters on BB, and what I see above is an outpouring of wonderful emotion and caring.  You should be proud.  You have started to create the very lexicon that we lack for this topic, and I thank you.

I wish you the best outcome in this time of difficulty.

Jonathan
Denver, CO
the Fiat RN</description>
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<p>maggie<br />
What you have done here is create something beautiful.  Your heartfelt sharing of a story has clearly echoed in the minds of literally hundreds of posters on BB, and what I see above is an outpouring of wonderful emotion and caring.  You should be proud.  You have started to create the very lexicon that we lack for this topic, and I thank you.</p>
<p>I wish you the best outcome in this time of difficulty.</p>
<p>Jonathan<br />
Denver, CO<br />
the Fiat RN</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Prose</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/20/the-only-good-abortion-is-my-a.html#comment-1455942</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Prose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 02:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been reading Boing Boing for years and never had a reason to post a comment until now.  I am so impressed by your honest and so very human (in the best sense of that word) story, Maggie.

I am also even more impressed with your and your husband&#039;s compassion for everyone else who has shared their stories here.  You both must be going through so much pain of your own that it is amazingly generous of you to express your gratitude and support for others right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading Boing Boing for years and never had a reason to post a comment until now.  I am so impressed by your honest and so very human (in the best sense of that word) story, Maggie.</p>
<p>I am also even more impressed with your and your husband&#8217;s compassion for everyone else who has shared their stories here.  You both must be going through so much pain of your own that it is amazingly generous of you to express your gratitude and support for others right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Crystal Snodgrass VanDeventer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crystal Snodgrass VanDeventer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 02:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so sorry.  The book Empty Cradle Brokenn Heart helped me a great deal.  I had five pregnancy losses, so I understand your pain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so sorry.  The book Empty Cradle Brokenn Heart helped me a great deal.  I had five pregnancy losses, so I understand your pain.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Rozelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Rozelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 01:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggie, my wife and I went through two spontaneous abortions.  Our 3rd pregnancy had a rocky start with trimosy 12 mosaicism showing up in the first test.  We were in our mid 40&#039;s at the time.  I remember the doctor telling us to hang on and give him time, we waited on pins and needles till my wife was far enough along to get an amnio.  1000 cells later and the conclusion was that the trisomy was in the placenta and the fetus cells had accomplished a trisomic rescue.  He&#039;s a happy, beautiful 3 year old who is the light of our lives.  Not sure where your road will lead you, but thought our story would help.  I&#039;m pro-choice and deeply believe it is a personal decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggie, my wife and I went through two spontaneous abortions.  Our 3rd pregnancy had a rocky start with trimosy 12 mosaicism showing up in the first test.  We were in our mid 40&#8242;s at the time.  I remember the doctor telling us to hang on and give him time, we waited on pins and needles till my wife was far enough along to get an amnio.  1000 cells later and the conclusion was that the trisomy was in the placenta and the fetus cells had accomplished a trisomic rescue.  He&#8217;s a happy, beautiful 3 year old who is the light of our lives.  Not sure where your road will lead you, but thought our story would help.  I&#8217;m pro-choice and deeply believe it is a personal decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Haislip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Haislip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 00:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggie,

My heart goes out to you.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggie,</p>
<p>My heart goes out to you.</p>
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		<title>By: lishevita</title>
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		<dc:creator>lishevita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 00:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to say thank you so much for sharing your story here. Yes, this sucks. Big time. I&#039;m so glad that you have a husband who can, and would, cancel his business trip in order to be by your side on yours while you face this difficult situation. I&#039;m so glad that you are able to make these choices. And I&#039;m so very glad that you have spoken up about your situation and your choices because so many women face these nightmares alone and need to hear voices like yours. Again, thank you. 

I hope that this difficult moment passes for you with the minimum of pain and trauma, and that you and your husband be blessed with a happy and healthy pregnancy soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to say thank you so much for sharing your story here. Yes, this sucks. Big time. I&#8217;m so glad that you have a husband who can, and would, cancel his business trip in order to be by your side on yours while you face this difficult situation. I&#8217;m so glad that you are able to make these choices. And I&#8217;m so very glad that you have spoken up about your situation and your choices because so many women face these nightmares alone and need to hear voices like yours. Again, thank you. </p>
<p>I hope that this difficult moment passes for you with the minimum of pain and trauma, and that you and your husband be blessed with a happy and healthy pregnancy soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Ferguson Collins</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/20/the-only-good-abortion-is-my-a.html#comment-1455856</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda Ferguson Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 00:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more.  I had 3 m/c in a row before my daughter, and if anything they made me more staunchly pro-choice.  Having a child is hard enough when it&#039;s been your dream for years, and you&#039;ve been able to plan and dream....If you don&#039;t want a child, then I really doubt it&#039;s in anyone&#039;s best interest to bring a child into the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more.  I had 3 m/c in a row before my daughter, and if anything they made me more staunchly pro-choice.  Having a child is hard enough when it&#8217;s been your dream for years, and you&#8217;ve been able to plan and dream&#8230;.If you don&#8217;t want a child, then I really doubt it&#8217;s in anyone&#8217;s best interest to bring a child into the world.</p>
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		<title>By: equilibrist</title>
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		<dc:creator>equilibrist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 23:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggie,  

My heart goes out to you.  You&#039;ll live through this and then get on with providing the world with some new happy mutants.  You won&#039;t ever forget but whatever your choice it will be your history and your decision, as it should be.

Life sucks sometimes.

John G </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggie,  </p>
<p>My heart goes out to you.  You&#8217;ll live through this and then get on with providing the world with some new happy mutants.  You won&#8217;t ever forget but whatever your choice it will be your history and your decision, as it should be.</p>
<p>Life sucks sometimes.</p>
<p>John G </p>
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		<title>By: Susan Carley Oliver</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/20/the-only-good-abortion-is-my-a.html#comment-1455821</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Carley Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so sorry, Maggie.

Thank you for such an inclusively written article.  I fall into the &quot;unchosen childlessness&quot; group, and it&#039;s rare to be mentioned in the reproductive rights conversation.

Definitely not TMI. I wish stuff like this was less secretive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so sorry, Maggie.</p>
<p>Thank you for such an inclusively written article.  I fall into the &#8220;unchosen childlessness&#8221; group, and it&#8217;s rare to be mentioned in the reproductive rights conversation.</p>
<p>Definitely not TMI. I wish stuff like this was less secretive.</p>
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		<title>By: DevinC</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/20/the-only-good-abortion-is-my-a.html#comment-1455732</link>
		<dc:creator>DevinC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Maggie:

This is not TMI.  Since you&#039;ve come to BoingBoing I&#039;ve been repeatedly impressed by your ability to take information and present it in a manner both thoughtful and succinct.  Though I understand this subject matter is not exactly in your wheelhouse, you&#039;ve done the same again.

All I can say is I&#039;m sorry: that you are suffering, that miscarriages happen at all, that the procedure you are considering is so legally fraught.  If having this abortion will make your emotional pain easier to bear, then please don&#039;t think you don&#039;t need it.  Psychic suffering is real suffering, and no one denies that people in physical pain need treatment.

Whatever happens, I hope that things get better soon.  If you need anything, please don&#039;t feel afraid to call on the BoingBoing community for help.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Maggie:</p>
<p>This is not TMI.  Since you&#8217;ve come to BoingBoing I&#8217;ve been repeatedly impressed by your ability to take information and present it in a manner both thoughtful and succinct.  Though I understand this subject matter is not exactly in your wheelhouse, you&#8217;ve done the same again.</p>
<p>All I can say is I&#8217;m sorry: that you are suffering, that miscarriages happen at all, that the procedure you are considering is so legally fraught.  If having this abortion will make your emotional pain easier to bear, then please don&#8217;t think you don&#8217;t need it.  Psychic suffering is real suffering, and no one denies that people in physical pain need treatment.</p>
<p>Whatever happens, I hope that things get better soon.  If you need anything, please don&#8217;t feel afraid to call on the BoingBoing community for help.  </p>
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		<title>By: Maggie Koerth-Baker</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/20/the-only-good-abortion-is-my-a.html#comment-1455717</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie Koerth-Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 21:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sherry, thank you. I was reminded that there are a couple of writer colleagues at the conference that I know fairly well and that helps, too. Most likely (according to my doc) there won&#039;t be any issues this weekend, but I appreciate your support nonetheless.

M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sherry, thank you. I was reminded that there are a couple of writer colleagues at the conference that I know fairly well and that helps, too. Most likely (according to my doc) there won&#8217;t be any issues this weekend, but I appreciate your support nonetheless.</p>
<p>M</p>
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		<title>By: CH</title>
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		<dc:creator>CH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 20:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen to the a) and b). In school it was made to sound like you could get pregnant from more or less any time of your period and by just having the appropriate parts close enough. No you can&#039;t! Gah, stop lying to kids and give them real information! One day those kids will be grown ups and actually want to become pregnant... and the information learned in school isn&#039;t really going to help with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to the a) and b). In school it was made to sound like you could get pregnant from more or less any time of your period and by just having the appropriate parts close enough. No you can&#8217;t! Gah, stop lying to kids and give them real information! One day those kids will be grown ups and actually want to become pregnant&#8230; and the information learned in school isn&#8217;t really going to help with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Maia Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maia Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 20:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Thanks for sharing the personal and painful. I hope to use this in teaching at the conservative Catholic college where I am a member of the Biology department. I have been collecting personal stories like yours to help kids realize the complexity of this issue and to spark more realistic debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Thanks for sharing the personal and painful. I hope to use this in teaching at the conservative Catholic college where I am a member of the Biology department. I have been collecting personal stories like yours to help kids realize the complexity of this issue and to spark more realistic debate.</p>
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		<title>By: JayWalker46</title>
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		<dc:creator>JayWalker46</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow--what strength you have and compassion for other folks in similar situations!  If only more of us had the ability to be so forthright and honest in dealing with difficult situations like this--the world would be a much better place!  Keep trying Maggie--we need more people like you bringing kid into the world--J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8211;what strength you have and compassion for other folks in similar situations!  If only more of us had the ability to be so forthright and honest in dealing with difficult situations like this&#8211;the world would be a much better place!  Keep trying Maggie&#8211;we need more people like you bringing kid into the world&#8211;J</p>
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		<title>By: CH</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 19:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep... I remember reading the papers from my birth, and the health information for my mother included the line of &quot;one abortion&quot; for previous pregnancies. I was quite... surprised... until I realized it was the miscarriage she had before me.

... Something to show in the face of picketers outside clinics. (And really... if they want to save fetuses... shouldn&#039;t they be picketing for more research to prevent misscarriages?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep&#8230; I remember reading the papers from my birth, and the health information for my mother included the line of &#8220;one abortion&#8221; for previous pregnancies. I was quite&#8230; surprised&#8230; until I realized it was the miscarriage she had before me.</p>
<p>&#8230; Something to show in the face of picketers outside clinics. (And really&#8230; if they want to save fetuses&#8230; shouldn&#8217;t they be picketing for more research to prevent misscarriages?)</p>
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		<title>By: relaxwerejusttalking</title>
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		<dc:creator>relaxwerejusttalking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 19:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey All -

   First off, Maggie, I want to say that your work is impressive and important and I feel amazingly lucky to get to read it nearly every damn day.
   I also wanted add my voice to the chorus outing the members of the World Shittiest Secret Society (our chant: W-S-S-S?). My wife and I have had trouble getting pregnant, and lived through the choice you&#039;re facing this week.  At 6 weeks we had a healthy growing fetus, and at 7.5 there was no heartbeat and &#039;signs of reabsorption&#039;. Our choice was the same as yours: abort or wait, with waiting being an option that would just drag out the pain for weeks more. We chose the mifepristone/misoprostol option, and lined up a Harry Potter movie marathon for light distraction to get through the few hours of discomfort that the doctor described. My wife then lived through at least eight hours of intense, body wracking pain while I lamely hugged her and rubbed her back through it, with the tidy, saccarine exploits of a young wizard on the TV in front of me. 
    In the weeks that followed, people came out of the woodwork, to tell their stories and try their best to help us through it, much as is happening right now in this thread. That helped.
    We&#039;re both academics (me: evolutionary biologist, she: economist) and we&#039;d approached pregnancy with the due diligence we dorks bring to our lives, so we knew the stats, but we had no idea how many people in our lives had lived through &#039;our personal tragedy&#039;.
     As much as I felt warmly to those that opened up, I was incredibly mad at a society that just never talked about miscarriage, so when we were in that moment, we felt broken, felt that there was something pathological about our inability to make this work, and felt alone about it all. As much as I love data, stats don&#039;t help with those feelings. Personal stories do. And stats aside, the only personal story I knew of this happening to another person was Howard Stern&#039;s miscarriage experience he told in his autobiographical film. Howard Stern. That&#039;s it.
    Sympathies and empathies after the fact are wonderful. But building a dialogue between humans in our lives and in our literature so that everyone knows about this part of the human condition is the only thing that can disband the World&#039;s Shittiest Secret Society. 
    So, thank you for getting people to tell their stories, and hopefully folks to whom this hasn&#039;t happened yet will talk about it.

To that end I propose: 
                      - The first rule of WSSS is that you do talk about WSSS.
                      - The second rule of WSSS is that you DO talk about WSSS.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey All -</p>
<p>   First off, Maggie, I want to say that your work is impressive and important and I feel amazingly lucky to get to read it nearly every damn day.<br />
   I also wanted add my voice to the chorus outing the members of the World Shittiest Secret Society (our chant: W-S-S-S?). My wife and I have had trouble getting pregnant, and lived through the choice you&#8217;re facing this week.  At 6 weeks we had a healthy growing fetus, and at 7.5 there was no heartbeat and &#8216;signs of reabsorption&#8217;. Our choice was the same as yours: abort or wait, with waiting being an option that would just drag out the pain for weeks more. We chose the mifepristone/misoprostol option, and lined up a Harry Potter movie marathon for light distraction to get through the few hours of discomfort that the doctor described. My wife then lived through at least eight hours of intense, body wracking pain while I lamely hugged her and rubbed her back through it, with the tidy, saccarine exploits of a young wizard on the TV in front of me. <br />
    In the weeks that followed, people came out of the woodwork, to tell their stories and try their best to help us through it, much as is happening right now in this thread. That helped.<br />
    We&#8217;re both academics (me: evolutionary biologist, she: economist) and we&#8217;d approached pregnancy with the due diligence we dorks bring to our lives, so we knew the stats, but we had no idea how many people in our lives had lived through &#8216;our personal tragedy&#8217;.<br />
     As much as I felt warmly to those that opened up, I was incredibly mad at a society that just never talked about miscarriage, so when we were in that moment, we felt broken, felt that there was something pathological about our inability to make this work, and felt alone about it all. As much as I love data, stats don&#8217;t help with those feelings. Personal stories do. And stats aside, the only personal story I knew of this happening to another person was Howard Stern&#8217;s miscarriage experience he told in his autobiographical film. Howard Stern. That&#8217;s it.<br />
    Sympathies and empathies after the fact are wonderful. But building a dialogue between humans in our lives and in our literature so that everyone knows about this part of the human condition is the only thing that can disband the World&#8217;s Shittiest Secret Society. <br />
    So, thank you for getting people to tell their stories, and hopefully folks to whom this hasn&#8217;t happened yet will talk about it.</p>
<p>To that end I propose: <br />
                      &#8211; The first rule of WSSS is that you do talk about WSSS.<br />
                      &#8211; The second rule of WSSS is that you DO talk about WSSS.</p>
<p>Any more?</p>
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		<title>By: Dolly Dagger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dolly Dagger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 19:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work at Aspen Mountain Lodge -- my name is Sherry.  Please call if I can do anything at all for you.  I&#039;ll instruct my co-workers to give you my cell phone number.  PLEASE.
I&#039;m a long time local and know most of Law Enforcement, Emergency room docs, paramedics etc.   You won&#039;t be alone, I&#039;m one of the best possible friends you can have there who doesn&#039;t have any money because I have lots of friends.

No matter what, my heart is with you -- I understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work at Aspen Mountain Lodge &#8212; my name is Sherry.  Please call if I can do anything at all for you.  I&#8217;ll instruct my co-workers to give you my cell phone number.  PLEASE.<br />
I&#8217;m a long time local and know most of Law Enforcement, Emergency room docs, paramedics etc.   You won&#8217;t be alone, I&#8217;m one of the best possible friends you can have there who doesn&#8217;t have any money because I have lots of friends.</p>
<p>No matter what, my heart is with you &#8212; I understand.</p>
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		<title>By: grapefruitsteph</title>
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		<dc:creator>grapefruitsteph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 19:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so sorry Maggie - for both of you. I have been through this two awful heartbreaking times now but I&#039;m still hoping. 
I hope you can mange it somehow. Thank you for writing such an honest, brave post - you have given me the courage to tell people about my miscarriage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so sorry Maggie &#8211; for both of you. I have been through this two awful heartbreaking times now but I&#8217;m still hoping. <br />
I hope you can mange it somehow. Thank you for writing such an honest, brave post &#8211; you have given me the courage to tell people about my miscarriage</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in DC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it has been said many times, but I want to add mine: Thanks for posting this, which must have been difficult.  My wife and I suffered through two miscarriages (one very painful one, one very early in the process) but we eventually ended up with our beautiful little girl... thanks to IVF.  Thanks again, and may the future bring you a healthy child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it has been said many times, but I want to add mine: Thanks for posting this, which must have been difficult.  My wife and I suffered through two miscarriages (one very painful one, one very early in the process) but we eventually ended up with our beautiful little girl&#8230; thanks to IVF.  Thanks again, and may the future bring you a healthy child.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachael Hoffman-Dachelet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachael Hoffman-Dachelet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so sorry you are going through this Maggie.  Thank you for being willing to share what is happening to help others.  I wish you peace in your decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so sorry you are going through this Maggie.  Thank you for being willing to share what is happening to help others.  I wish you peace in your decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Lovely Tara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lovely Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for speaking out and sharing this. I&#039;ve had both a miscarriage and an abortion--and have been treated like a criminal anytime I&#039;ve tried to speak openly about either experience. Wishing you strength and peace as you go through this difficult time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for speaking out and sharing this. I&#8217;ve had both a miscarriage and an abortion&#8211;and have been treated like a criminal anytime I&#8217;ve tried to speak openly about either experience. Wishing you strength and peace as you go through this difficult time.</p>
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		<title>By: Meghan Helsel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meghan Helsel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prayed for a miracle.</description>
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		<title>By: Joanne Burch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanne Burch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ended up having to make this choice as well not more than 1 year ago.  My baby had a slow heart rate at 7 weeks, and I had been spotting for a week.  Baby&#039;s size was that of a 6 week old.  I was in pain for 3 more days, as the slow heart rate didn&#039;t alarm the ER doctors, or my OB who told me to keep my first appointment for next week.  By the 3rd day I went to my OB&#039;s office, where they confirmed the heartbeat stopped, from what they could see.  I had a d &amp; c scheduled for the next day, not wanting to experience this process naturally.  I did think about whether or not they had made a mistake, and maybe that child was really still alive and thriving even before I went in for the procedure, and even one year later, as the pathology reports found no indication that there was any kind of problem with the fetus.  It was the hardest thing I ever did in my life.  Fortunately, I was blessed with a baby, not 3 months after the procedure I was pregnant again, and just delivered a healthy baby boy 3 weeks ago.  My heart goes out to you Maggie, I know whatever decision you make will be the right one for you.  Know that you have an angel baby and that you did the best you could do for him/her.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ended up having to make this choice as well not more than 1 year ago.  My baby had a slow heart rate at 7 weeks, and I had been spotting for a week.  Baby&#8217;s size was that of a 6 week old.  I was in pain for 3 more days, as the slow heart rate didn&#8217;t alarm the ER doctors, or my OB who told me to keep my first appointment for next week.  By the 3rd day I went to my OB&#8217;s office, where they confirmed the heartbeat stopped, from what they could see.  I had a d &amp; c scheduled for the next day, not wanting to experience this process naturally.  I did think about whether or not they had made a mistake, and maybe that child was really still alive and thriving even before I went in for the procedure, and even one year later, as the pathology reports found no indication that there was any kind of problem with the fetus.  It was the hardest thing I ever did in my life.  Fortunately, I was blessed with a baby, not 3 months after the procedure I was pregnant again, and just delivered a healthy baby boy 3 weeks ago.  My heart goes out to you Maggie, I know whatever decision you make will be the right one for you.  Know that you have an angel baby and that you did the best you could do for him/her.  </p>
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		<title>By: beekay</title>
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		<dc:creator>beekay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggie, deepest sympathies to you and your husband as you go through this difficult time and face a difficult choice. I&#039;d also like to thank you for writing such a balanced and well-informed piece that adds a note of sanity to the pro-life/pro-choice debate.

Personally, I&#039;ve never faced a known miscarriage, though it&#039;s entirely possible that I had an early one a very long time ago when I was a teenager and my thyroid condition made for largely non-ovulatory cycles and heinously heavy and painful periods.

What I am familiar with, is the agonizing over the decision whether or not to abort. In my case, there were no health concerns, either mine, or the baby&#039;s, just a matter of timing as my divorce was not yet fully finalized, my partner wasn&#039;t living with me and my kids yet, and my children from my first marriage were still showing signs of the grieving process from the split between their father and I, even several years out from the separation.

Ultimately, the right decision for me and my partner, was to continue the pregnancy as I was concerned about the side effects of an abortion for future fertility, my age (pushing 40) and knowledge of myself - I don&#039;t think I could have lived with the sorrow and regret of choosing to abort. It was a very difficult decision to make especially as I&#039;ve observed my kids struggling with how this baby fits into our blended family, in spite of also being excited to have a new sibling,  and me not being as available to them as a single parent as  I&#039;ve slogged through severe morning sickness and fatigue. 

If I&#039;d decided the other way, if I&#039;d chosen to abort,  I would expect the same level of support and understanding from my family and friends as they&#039;ve offered to me pregnant.

There are no good and bad choices as you say, only the choices that are right and &#039;best&#039;  for each of us in the face of a given time and set of circumstances.

I wish you and yours all the best and hope that a better outcome is in your future some day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggie, deepest sympathies to you and your husband as you go through this difficult time and face a difficult choice. I&#8217;d also like to thank you for writing such a balanced and well-informed piece that adds a note of sanity to the pro-life/pro-choice debate.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;ve never faced a known miscarriage, though it&#8217;s entirely possible that I had an early one a very long time ago when I was a teenager and my thyroid condition made for largely non-ovulatory cycles and heinously heavy and painful periods.</p>
<p>What I am familiar with, is the agonizing over the decision whether or not to abort. In my case, there were no health concerns, either mine, or the baby&#8217;s, just a matter of timing as my divorce was not yet fully finalized, my partner wasn&#8217;t living with me and my kids yet, and my children from my first marriage were still showing signs of the grieving process from the split between their father and I, even several years out from the separation.</p>
<p>Ultimately, the right decision for me and my partner, was to continue the pregnancy as I was concerned about the side effects of an abortion for future fertility, my age (pushing 40) and knowledge of myself &#8211; I don&#8217;t think I could have lived with the sorrow and regret of choosing to abort. It was a very difficult decision to make especially as I&#8217;ve observed my kids struggling with how this baby fits into our blended family, in spite of also being excited to have a new sibling,  and me not being as available to them as a single parent as  I&#8217;ve slogged through severe morning sickness and fatigue. </p>
<p>If I&#8217;d decided the other way, if I&#8217;d chosen to abort,  I would expect the same level of support and understanding from my family and friends as they&#8217;ve offered to me pregnant.</p>
<p>There are no good and bad choices as you say, only the choices that are right and &#8216;best&#8217;  for each of us in the face of a given time and set of circumstances.</p>
<p>I wish you and yours all the best and hope that a better outcome is in your future some day.</p>
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		<title>By: Ola Nordamn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ola Nordamn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed.  If we could track every single successful fertilization of an egg by a sperm, we might find that way more than 50%, maybe more than say 70%, end in miscarriage.  It&#039;s a hugely complicated and awesome (in the true, old sense of the word -- I had chosen &quot;miraculous&quot; originally but that has perhaps too much religious connotation for some) process biologically.  From egg/sperm production (where most failures start, e.g. chromosome abnormalities) to the correct and proper growth of the fetus to successfully birthing the child without harm to mother or infant, it&#039;s fraught with peril. It&#039;s no surprise that nature itself eliminates 50% or more of such attempts.  Sorry if that sounds too coldly clinical; I agree completely on the desire to make the knowledge of miscarriage common-ness more publicly available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed.  If we could track every single successful fertilization of an egg by a sperm, we might find that way more than 50%, maybe more than say 70%, end in miscarriage.  It&#8217;s a hugely complicated and awesome (in the true, old sense of the word &#8212; I had chosen &#8220;miraculous&#8221; originally but that has perhaps too much religious connotation for some) process biologically.  From egg/sperm production (where most failures start, e.g. chromosome abnormalities) to the correct and proper growth of the fetus to successfully birthing the child without harm to mother or infant, it&#8217;s fraught with peril. It&#8217;s no surprise that nature itself eliminates 50% or more of such attempts.  Sorry if that sounds too coldly clinical; I agree completely on the desire to make the knowledge of miscarriage common-ness more publicly available.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Wexelblat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Wexelblat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 16:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so very sorry to read that you are not getting the result you and your husband want from this. I&#039;m glad you have the options and support you need to make that least-bad choice. I&#039;m amazed you&#039;ve read through so many comments and taken the time to respond where you have.

A wise friend of mine has impressed on me the mantra that &quot;stoic silence is for suckers.&quot; Today she shared with us the pain of having a surgical drain removed as she is newly home recovering from a cancer-forced mastectomy. We support her with our words as best we can. I hope that your choice to share your story continues to bring good things into your daily stream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so very sorry to read that you are not getting the result you and your husband want from this. I&#8217;m glad you have the options and support you need to make that least-bad choice. I&#8217;m amazed you&#8217;ve read through so many comments and taken the time to respond where you have.</p>
<p>A wise friend of mine has impressed on me the mantra that &#8220;stoic silence is for suckers.&#8221; Today she shared with us the pain of having a surgical drain removed as she is newly home recovering from a cancer-forced mastectomy. We support her with our words as best we can. I hope that your choice to share your story continues to bring good things into your daily stream.</p>
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		<title>By: jrl13</title>
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		<dc:creator>jrl13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 16:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long-time-reader, first-time-commenter. Your post is so very brave. I am sorry that you are going through this. I used to think of miscarriage as a thing that happens in an instant, but it&#039;s really a process that can take quite long. However you chose to proceed, I support you.

I have had 2 miscarriages, 1 termination (of twins) and have 1 healthy baby after a very complicated pregnancy. The termination was a horrible situation - the twins were identical and shared blood-flow, but Twin B was getting too much blood and Twin A not enough. B was rapidly dying and A was going to experience a great trauma when B died, because the loss of pressure would cause even more of the blood to flow over to B, depriving A. We consulted with many experts, and no one could give us good information about what would happen to A. She might have died from the trauma when B died. She might have had brain, heart or lung defects. She might have lived a long and healthy life. There was no way to have enough information to feel good about the decision. I used to think that choices were a good thing, but now know now what a burden they can be.

This article is slightly off-topic, but this quote from a bioethicist really spoke to me and is relevant here: &quot;In an odd way, having more choices actually places a much greater burden on women, because we become the creators of our circumstance, whereas, before, we were the recipients of them. I’m not saying we should have less choices; I’m saying choices are not always as liberating and empowering as we hope they will be.” 
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/14/magazine/the-two-minus-one-pregnancy.html?pagewanted=all

After my termination, something happened that I understand to be fairly common. Some of the placenta did not come out during the procedure. This caused massive bleeding and chaos for 3 months when we were desperate to start trying again. It was horrible. I understand that this is common - one midwife said &quot;yeah - the placenta&#039;s really not designed to let go at that stage.&quot; In some ways it is a good thing - doctors used to really scrape the walls of the uterus during a D&amp;C, and they didn&#039;t have as many problems with retained placentas, but they did do lots of damage to uteruses. 

So, in the spirit of talking about things that are common but not much talked about, I thought I would pass that along. A friend of mine had had this happen before me, and it helped me that I knew it was a possibility. 

Best of luck to you and your husband.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long-time-reader, first-time-commenter. Your post is so very brave. I am sorry that you are going through this. I used to think of miscarriage as a thing that happens in an instant, but it&#8217;s really a process that can take quite long. However you chose to proceed, I support you.</p>
<p>I have had 2 miscarriages, 1 termination (of twins) and have 1 healthy baby after a very complicated pregnancy. The termination was a horrible situation &#8211; the twins were identical and shared blood-flow, but Twin B was getting too much blood and Twin A not enough. B was rapidly dying and A was going to experience a great trauma when B died, because the loss of pressure would cause even more of the blood to flow over to B, depriving A. We consulted with many experts, and no one could give us good information about what would happen to A. She might have died from the trauma when B died. She might have had brain, heart or lung defects. She might have lived a long and healthy life. There was no way to have enough information to feel good about the decision. I used to think that choices were a good thing, but now know now what a burden they can be.</p>
<p>This article is slightly off-topic, but this quote from a bioethicist really spoke to me and is relevant here: &#8220;In an odd way, having more choices actually places a much greater burden on women, because we become the creators of our circumstance, whereas, before, we were the recipients of them. I’m not saying we should have less choices; I’m saying choices are not always as liberating and empowering as we hope they will be.”<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/14/magazine/the-two-minus-one-pregnancy.html?pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/14/magazine/the-two-minus-one-pregnancy.html?pagewanted=all</a></p>
<p>After my termination, something happened that I understand to be fairly common. Some of the placenta did not come out during the procedure. This caused massive bleeding and chaos for 3 months when we were desperate to start trying again. It was horrible. I understand that this is common &#8211; one midwife said &#8220;yeah &#8211; the placenta&#8217;s really not designed to let go at that stage.&#8221; In some ways it is a good thing &#8211; doctors used to really scrape the walls of the uterus during a D&amp;C, and they didn&#8217;t have as many problems with retained placentas, but they did do lots of damage to uteruses. </p>
<p>So, in the spirit of talking about things that are common but not much talked about, I thought I would pass that along. A friend of mine had had this happen before me, and it helped me that I knew it was a possibility. </p>
<p>Best of luck to you and your husband.</p>
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