CIA fake vaccine program will have wide-ranging effects on health of Pakistani children

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23 Responses to “CIA fake vaccine program will have wide-ranging effects on health of Pakistani children”

  1. Um, the story actually says that the CIA fake program is tangential and the Taliban is stopping the program because of drone attacks. But OK, whatever.

    • thatbob says:

      Buried all the way down in the third sentence:  “[The Taliban commander] also said the polio campaign could be a cover for CIA espionage – a reference to Shakil Afridi, the Pakistani doctor reported to have helped American agencies identify Osama bin Laden.”

    • The Taliban commander referenced CIA plots in his explanation and, frankly, this is something that public health advocates have been predicting since the CIA fake program became public information. 

      • princessalex says:

        Sure, but it still isn’t considered to be the main cause of the ban, at least, not according to the article you referenced.  A pamphlet was sent out, saying, “This situation created by U.S. drone strikes is more dangerous than the polio virus,” implying the drones are the main reason for the ban. 

        The topic of the CIA program was addressed in only one sentence of the article (except for the explanatory two sentences at the very end, which weren’t actually part of the article, but merely explaining the previous program).  So, if that article is the one you’re commenting on, how can you derive the idea that the CIA fake vaccination program is to blame for the current polio vaccine ban?  If you truly believe it has more of an impact on the current ban, please provide more sources.  This one doesn’t support your hypothesis.

      • jacklaughing says:

         OK, so let’s just assume this wholly the fault of the CIA’s hunt for Bin Laden and less so the incessant drone strikes. Regardless, what is stopping the Red Cross, the UN, the Pakistani govt, or the Taliban themselves from administering the vaccines? It’s ludicrous to blame this on the CIA when anyone could potentially administer it as a purely humanitarian cause.

        And yes, I agree that the way the CIA handled this initially was wrong, misguided, and poorly thought-out, even if it did lead to Bin Laden’s execution. But I don’t see how you can reasonably blame the CIA for a health crisis the Taliban is perpetrating. That is idiotic.

        • peterblue11 says:

          who do you think was heavily involved with the development of those drones. who do you think uses intelligences collected by those drones on a day to day basis?? the CIA you schmuck. 

          we are talking about one of the most highly effective killing machines in history here not some bullied primary school kid.

        • stupocalypto says:

          I don’t see how the extrajudicial execution of a suspected war criminal justifies any covert meddling in the health affairs of a sovereign country in the first place.

          This is similar to the Viet Cong coming through and cutting the arms of children who had been vaccinated by the US, in that it is a response to the arrogant involvement and supposition that everyone in the world is waiting for Uncle Sam to come save them from the bad guys, pat them on the head and give them a pepsi.

          • Darren MacLennan says:

             I believe that that whole “Viet Cong cut off the arms of vaccinated children” thing only happened in a movie. Specifically, Apocalypse Now.

          • stupocalypto says:

            *reels in line*

        • Petzl says:

          It didn’t lead to Bin Laden’s execution:

          It is also not known whether the CIA managed to obtain any Bin Laden DNA, although one source suggested the operation did not succeed.
          –The Guardian

          This is like Cheney et al saying torture saved us from another 9-11. There’s just no evidence for it.

          This whole affair reminds me of how the CIA used being a reporter as agent cover in the ’60s and ’70s and the attendant problems reporters faced having to deny they were CIA plants.

  2. pishabh says:

    BTW, maybe this was by design?  Biological warfare from a different angle

  3. Kristine says:

    I wonder why the program didn’t administer proper doses of the vaccine. Was it too expensive, or did they just skip out on administering follow-up doses? This is one of those rare examples that clarifies why Americans and others have become so wary of vaccination programs, though most are completely legit and absolutely vital for the safety of the herd–for community at large, that is. 

    So sad. Pretty short-sighted to use this as a cover without implementing it properly, if that’s how it happened.Makes me think way back to the infamous Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment/Study.  http://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm

  4. chellberty says:

    Christ what assholes!!

  5. Marko Raos says:

    Lol another conspiracy theory, back to your dens, trailer trash!
    Oh wait, it’s true? Well yawn, who cares, it’s all water under the bridge now…. WMDs in Iran/Syria anyone?

  6. Marc45 says:

    Yup, lead by example my dad always said…sigh

  7. Guido says:

    This is revolting. 

    Thanks a lot for making sure we won-t get rid of polio anytime soon. 

  8. SedanChair says:

    All you folks whining about “this wasn’t the only reason they’re stopping the program” need to pull your heads out of your butts. Every time the CIA gets their fingers into a program they poison everything that can be associated with it. It’s happened with journalists, Peace Corps workers and countless others. Stop picking nits

  9. P.F. Bruns says:

    I think it’s more technically correct to say that polio is an epidemic in Pakistan, unless the disease has reached a steady state.

  10. stephenl123 says:

    Pretty fkd up to do a partial vaccination!

    The “U.S.-funded polio vaccination campaign” is itself a myth.  There IS a polio vaccination campaign. It gets a lot of money from the US, Britain, the Rotary Club and the Gates foundation.  But it is a WHO program which gets money from lots of countries and is supported by almost every government on earth, including the Afghan Taliban.  Indonesia would administer it in the Pakistani Taliban territory it the Pakistani Taliban would let them.  Indonesia did that in Northern Nigeria to overcome suspicion there.

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