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	<title>Comments on: Dollars and Dentists: PBS Frontline investigates America&#039;s dental health&#160;crisis</title>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/dollars-and-dentists-pbs-fron.html#comment-1463129</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 22:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had braces when I was in the second grade.  Nothing wrong with getting it over with before puberty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had braces when I was in the second grade.  Nothing wrong with getting it over with before puberty.</p>
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		<title>By: Amelia_G</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/dollars-and-dentists-pbs-fron.html#comment-1463015</link>
		<dc:creator>Amelia_G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 20:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of denephews had two gold crowns installed not long after those teeth erupted. Now he&#039;s seven and wearing braces. This can&#039;t be right.
At least dentistry&#039;s cannulas are smaller-gauge than when I was a kid. Thank goodness for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of denephews had two gold crowns installed not long after those teeth erupted. Now he&#8217;s seven and wearing braces. This can&#8217;t be right.<br />
At least dentistry&#8217;s cannulas are smaller-gauge than when I was a kid. Thank goodness for that.</p>
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		<title>By: niktemadur</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/dollars-and-dentists-pbs-fron.html#comment-1462490</link>
		<dc:creator>niktemadur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True story:  the dentist that fixed my teeth as a teenager in San Diego was the same man who fixed Michael Jackson&#039;s teeth in Los Angeles several years before.

The man&#039;s name was Bud Rubin, and he was a gentle, Carl Sagan-like wizard in his manner.  &quot;So... bite down for me... thank you...&quot;  His gentle voice and gentle finger pressure just soothed me like a balm.  Then his minions did the painful work.

Almost thirty years later, my teeth are still just about perfect.  Bud Rubin was a wizard, and don&#039;t try to tell me any different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True story:  the dentist that fixed my teeth as a teenager in San Diego was the same man who fixed Michael Jackson&#8217;s teeth in Los Angeles several years before.</p>
<p>The man&#8217;s name was Bud Rubin, and he was a gentle, Carl Sagan-like wizard in his manner.  &#8220;So&#8230; bite down for me&#8230; thank you&#8230;&#8221;  His gentle voice and gentle finger pressure just soothed me like a balm.  Then his minions did the painful work.</p>
<p>Almost thirty years later, my teeth are still just about perfect.  Bud Rubin was a wizard, and don&#8217;t try to tell me any different.</p>
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		<title>By: niktemadur</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/dollars-and-dentists-pbs-fron.html#comment-1462482</link>
		<dc:creator>niktemadur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny isn&#039;t it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake.
Bye for now, keep your teeth clean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAe6UEUmaJk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny isn&#8217;t it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake.<br />
Bye for now, keep your teeth clean.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAe6UEUmaJk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAe6UEUmaJk</a></p>
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		<title>By: niktemadur</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/dollars-and-dentists-pbs-fron.html#comment-1462480</link>
		<dc:creator>niktemadur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth!</description>
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		<title>By: niktemadur</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/dollars-and-dentists-pbs-fron.html#comment-1462476</link>
		<dc:creator>niktemadur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fun fact:  the wildest college parties I went to in Guadalajara were courtesy of the orthodontists.  Dentists drinking cane alcohol with Squirt Soda in one room, dentists fucking their brains out in the next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fun fact:  the wildest college parties I went to in Guadalajara were courtesy of the orthodontists.  Dentists drinking cane alcohol with Squirt Soda in one room, dentists fucking their brains out in the next.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Curtis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are incorrect in that assumption.  Just as one example, look up Ludwig&#039;s angina.  I treat patients with serious, acute dental infections every single day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are incorrect in that assumption.  Just as one example, look up Ludwig&#8217;s angina.  I treat patients with serious, acute dental infections every single day.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Sismeiro</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/dollars-and-dentists-pbs-fron.html#comment-1461999</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos Sismeiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 23:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The system is changing for the worse in Europe right now.

I personally live in one of the countries facing strong austerity measures (Portugal) and literally people have died.
There are not enough ambulances, there are less maternities, even though we have chronic lack of doctors for what we need our chief of government decided loads had to be fired and told them to emigrate (by the way Germany seems to be using this as a great way to get cheap specialist almost by the bus load).

The whole government and state and what not are supposed to be a cooperative effort by the people for the people and it is supposed to lose money - it has a cost to make the country, any country, a better place. The idea of choosing based solely on cost effectiveness and on profitability is what destroys the weak tissue that holds a society together.

In all &quot;western&quot; countries we must react to the destruction being done, because the heavenly &quot;each man for himself&quot; place that many politicians seem to be aiming for looks too much like the world of the &quot;Mad Max&quot; film series or the &quot;The Book Of Eli&quot;, and I think most people who want that will actually hate it when we get there.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The system is changing for the worse in Europe right now.</p>
<p>I personally live in one of the countries facing strong austerity measures (Portugal) and literally people have died.<br />
There are not enough ambulances, there are less maternities, even though we have chronic lack of doctors for what we need our chief of government decided loads had to be fired and told them to emigrate (by the way Germany seems to be using this as a great way to get cheap specialist almost by the bus load).</p>
<p>The whole government and state and what not are supposed to be a cooperative effort by the people for the people and it is supposed to lose money &#8211; it has a cost to make the country, any country, a better place. The idea of choosing based solely on cost effectiveness and on profitability is what destroys the weak tissue that holds a society together.</p>
<p>In all &#8220;western&#8221; countries we must react to the destruction being done, because the heavenly &#8220;each man for himself&#8221; place that many politicians seem to be aiming for looks too much like the world of the &#8220;Mad Max&#8221; film series or the &#8220;The Book Of Eli&#8221;, and I think most people who want that will actually hate it when we get there.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/dollars-and-dentists-pbs-fron.html#comment-1461745</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just teeth.  California just forced insurers to cover treatment for autism.  Mental health coverage is still spotty.  Reproductive services were and remain a fight for coverage.  The list goes on. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just teeth.  California just forced insurers to cover treatment for autism.  Mental health coverage is still spotty.  Reproductive services were and remain a fight for coverage.  The list goes on. </p>
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		<title>By: Tonweight</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/dollars-and-dentists-pbs-fron.html#comment-1461357</link>
		<dc:creator>Tonweight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who&#039;s had more than enough work done to know that it sucks and costs too much, I&#039;m at least grateful to have a decent guy doing the work these days.  While I still have the &quot;80% coverage&quot; woes, I know that I&#039;m only getting charged for what&#039;s absolutely necessary because my dentist makes it a point to go over what each line-item means.

Still - it would be nice to have a more comprehensive and less predatory system in place.  When I needed three broken wisdom teeth surgically extracted, my dentist charged me (well, my insurance company) LESS than the guy before him, who&#039;d extracted the first broken wisdom tooth; AND, he was done - with ZERO pain - in about 45 minutes.  Of course, it took the rest of the day for the lidocaine to wear off, but that&#039;s jbust phhhbine bby bbe, dboctbor.

My dentist is a ninja of the mouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who&#8217;s had more than enough work done to know that it sucks and costs too much, I&#8217;m at least grateful to have a decent guy doing the work these days.  While I still have the &#8220;80% coverage&#8221; woes, I know that I&#8217;m only getting charged for what&#8217;s absolutely necessary because my dentist makes it a point to go over what each line-item means.</p>
<p>Still &#8211; it would be nice to have a more comprehensive and less predatory system in place.  When I needed three broken wisdom teeth surgically extracted, my dentist charged me (well, my insurance company) LESS than the guy before him, who&#8217;d extracted the first broken wisdom tooth; AND, he was done &#8211; with ZERO pain &#8211; in about 45 minutes.  Of course, it took the rest of the day for the lidocaine to wear off, but that&#8217;s jbust phhhbine bby bbe, dboctbor.</p>
<p>My dentist is a ninja of the mouth.</p>
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		<title>By: donovan acree</title>
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		<dc:creator>donovan acree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Why do you say tooth care costs more than foot care? The foot is arguably a more complex system. Heck, toenail removal costs $250 to $1,200 vs a tooth extraction costing $50 to $150. Yet, podiatric treatment is covered. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Why do you say tooth care costs more than foot care? The foot is arguably a more complex system. Heck, toenail removal costs $250 to $1,200 vs a tooth extraction costing $50 to $150. Yet, podiatric treatment is covered. </p>
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		<title>By: donovan acree</title>
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		<dc:creator>donovan acree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wonder why our mouths are not covered with normal health insurance. Why are we being gouged for this one type of health issue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wonder why our mouths are not covered with normal health insurance. Why are we being gouged for this one type of health issue?</p>
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		<title>By: donovan acree</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/dollars-and-dentists-pbs-fron.html#comment-1461343</link>
		<dc:creator>donovan acree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Yes they do Amanda. I was almost one of them. My (ex) dentist had me on the same antibiotic for 4 weeks trying to treat and infection. In the end, I had to go to a surgeon and have a piece of my infected jaw and some infected ganglia removed. The surgeon estimated I had 72 hours before it would have been too late - and this is what you get if you HAVE insurance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Yes they do Amanda. I was almost one of them. My (ex) dentist had me on the same antibiotic for 4 weeks trying to treat and infection. In the end, I had to go to a surgeon and have a piece of my infected jaw and some infected ganglia removed. The surgeon estimated I had 72 hours before it would have been too late &#8211; and this is what you get if you HAVE insurance.</p>
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		<title>By: Thorzdad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thorzdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dental care will get even more expensive and less likely to be covered by insurance now that financial corporations like CareCredit (aka: GE Financial)  have gotten their claws into the system. Most of the independent dentists in this area now simply hand you a brochure for CareCredit when they give you the cost estimate for whatever procedure you need. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dental care will get even more expensive and less likely to be covered by insurance now that financial corporations like CareCredit (aka: GE Financial)  have gotten their claws into the system. Most of the independent dentists in this area now simply hand you a brochure for CareCredit when they give you the cost estimate for whatever procedure you need. </p>
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		<title>By: alexb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/dollars-and-dentists-pbs-fron.html#comment-1461194</link>
		<dc:creator>alexb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 08:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These people who feel &quot;why should I pay to help other people&quot;, where do they think their insurance permium goes? Does it go to a special fund just for them? Or does some of their premium go to helping other people? Do they not understand that some of other people&#039;s premiums go to helping them when it&#039;s their turn to need help?
This is socialist health care, but in the US you pay your premium and the biggest chunk goes to the private company that provides the care. In Europe the premium goes into the social pot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people who feel &#8220;why should I pay to help other people&#8221;, where do they think their insurance permium goes? Does it go to a special fund just for them? Or does some of their premium go to helping other people? Do they not understand that some of other people&#8217;s premiums go to helping them when it&#8217;s their turn to need help?<br />
This is socialist health care, but in the US you pay your premium and the biggest chunk goes to the private company that provides the care. In Europe the premium goes into the social pot.</p>
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		<title>By: alexb</title>
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		<dc:creator>alexb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 08:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Or they have mouth cancer and it goes unnoticed until it&#039;s too late. Whereas it&#039;s one of the things that a regular dental check up is designed to spot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Or they have mouth cancer and it goes unnoticed until it&#8217;s too late. Whereas it&#8217;s one of the things that a regular dental check up is designed to spot.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 06:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apology accepted on one condition. Could you ask your fellow americans if they could start using the perfectly good H on the word Herbs while on tv, it drive me nuts. I will of course return the favour on any letter we drop :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apology accepted on one condition. Could you ask your fellow americans if they could start using the perfectly good H on the word Herbs while on tv, it drive me nuts. I will of course return the favour on any letter we drop :)</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 06:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the Frontline episode about an hour ago.

I feel so fortunate to have good dental insurance, and enough money to pay for what it doesn&#039;t cover. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the Frontline episode about an hour ago.</p>
<p>I feel so fortunate to have good dental insurance, and enough money to pay for what it doesn&#8217;t cover. </p>
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		<title>By: cdh1971</title>
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		<dc:creator>cdh1971</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 05:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have  a tightness in my chest. I think this might be the big one!...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have  a tightness in my chest. I think this might be the big one!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cdh1971</title>
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		<dc:creator>cdh1971</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 05:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not rare Amanda. 

The long-term damage to the heart is even more frequent, and then there is t he stigma attached to having even yellow teeth, not to mention rotting teeth, or missing teeth. 

And, no, tooth pain is not some sort of sign of sloth or divine disfavour, or &#039;making bad choices&#039;.

I would say that maybe you should listen to less right-wing radio, but sadly, I find this lack of empathy and lack of critical thinking too common among the the so-called millennials, regardless of professed creed. 

Yikes...you might need to Google what right wing radio is, &#039;cause when you think &#039;wing&#039; you think yummy buffalo wings and when you think right - well, you have to look that one up.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not rare Amanda. </p>
<p>The long-term damage to the heart is even more frequent, and then there is t he stigma attached to having even yellow teeth, not to mention rotting teeth, or missing teeth. </p>
<p>And, no, tooth pain is not some sort of sign of sloth or divine disfavour, or &#8216;making bad choices&#8217;.</p>
<p>I would say that maybe you should listen to less right-wing radio, but sadly, I find this lack of empathy and lack of critical thinking too common among the the so-called millennials, regardless of professed creed. </p>
<p>Yikes&#8230;you might need to Google what right wing radio is, &#8217;cause when you think &#8216;wing&#8217; you think yummy buffalo wings and when you think right &#8211; well, you have to look that one up.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 04:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or the infection tracks to the neck, erodes the jugular or carotid and they bleed to death out their mouth.  I&#039;ve witnessed it at close range.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or the infection tracks to the neck, erodes the jugular or carotid and they bleed to death out their mouth.  I&#8217;ve witnessed it at close range.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 03:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on people....NO ONE dies from a toothache. Unless they shoot themselves to stop the pain. What PBS is trying to avoid specifying is that an infection that may have begun in the tooth spreads to the brain specifically or the heart (causing infective endocarditis)....then and ONLY THEN can a tooth cause death. And that would be in the rarest of occasions. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on people&#8230;.NO ONE dies from a toothache. Unless they shoot themselves to stop the pain. What PBS is trying to avoid specifying is that an infection that may have begun in the tooth spreads to the brain specifically or the heart (causing infective endocarditis)&#8230;.then and ONLY THEN can a tooth cause death. And that would be in the rarest of occasions. </p>
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		<title>By: Jason Wood</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/dollars-and-dentists-pbs-fron.html#comment-1461028</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 03:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Humans will game the system; that&#039;s just how it goes. As far as I can see, there are two main &quot;systems&quot; available as options for health care; the current U.S. system of &quot;hope to hell you get good enough insurance and can keep it&quot; (for &#039;basic&#039; healthcare, you&#039;ll need even better luck for dental), or the &quot;let&#039;s let the government make sure everyone has healthcare&quot; system used in much of the rest of the &#039;civilized&#039; world. So if we accept that people will game the system, which set of negative side-effects seem more acceptable:
1) Many people will suffer poor health, or even death, because of their inability to pay (which is often not even a matter of &quot;laziness,&quot; but of pure blind luck-of-the-draw).
2) Some people will get more than they really &quot;deserve,&quot; such as people getting treatment for health problems that were largely &quot;their fault,&quot; or possibly more treatment than is &quot;strictly necessary.&quot;

How the in the name of the Flying Spaghetti Monster&#039;s Most Wholly (Holy [Hole-y]) Tentacle does the majority of a country decide that #1 is a better option?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humans will game the system; that&#8217;s just how it goes. As far as I can see, there are two main &#8220;systems&#8221; available as options for health care; the current U.S. system of &#8220;hope to hell you get good enough insurance and can keep it&#8221; (for &#8216;basic&#8217; healthcare, you&#8217;ll need even better luck for dental), or the &#8220;let&#8217;s let the government make sure everyone has healthcare&#8221; system used in much of the rest of the &#8216;civilized&#8217; world. So if we accept that people will game the system, which set of negative side-effects seem more acceptable:<br />
1) Many people will suffer poor health, or even death, because of their inability to pay (which is often not even a matter of &#8220;laziness,&#8221; but of pure blind luck-of-the-draw).<br />
2) Some people will get more than they really &#8220;deserve,&#8221; such as people getting treatment for health problems that were largely &#8220;their fault,&#8221; or possibly more treatment than is &#8220;strictly necessary.&#8221;</p>
<p>How the in the name of the Flying Spaghetti Monster&#8217;s Most Wholly (Holy [Hole-y]) Tentacle does the majority of a country decide that #1 is a better option?</p>
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		<title>By: rattypilgrim</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/dollars-and-dentists-pbs-fron.html#comment-1461002</link>
		<dc:creator>rattypilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 02:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I feel your pain. No, I really do. Same thing happened to me with an implant. What a racket! And don&#039;t get me started on all the x-rays you&#039;ll be subjected to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I feel your pain. No, I really do. Same thing happened to me with an implant. What a racket! And don&#8217;t get me started on all the x-rays you&#8217;ll be subjected to.</p>
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		<title>By: erx</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/dollars-and-dentists-pbs-fron.html#comment-1460974</link>
		<dc:creator>erx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) there have been many advances in dentistry over the past hundred years, and dentistry is probably the most advanced medical subspecialty there is.  Dentists can pull out all of your teeth and replace them with implants that a layperson can&#039;t distinguish from real teeth, and no other specialty can make that claim.  However, that stuff is really expensive.  It used to be that dentists just pulled teeth if they went bad, and that was really cheap.

2) we eat lots and lots of sugar, and people in the past didn&#039;t.

3) There is a vaccine-like strategy for cavities that was developed by a company called Oragenics.  Basically, cavities are initiated primarily by a bacterium called streptococcus mutans, which makes lactic acid that eats through tooth enamel.  The guy behind this (I think his name is Hillman) deleted the gene that makes lactic acid from the genome of strep mutans, then replaced it with an analogous gene from a harmless bacterium and also added a gene that caused his strep mutans to outcompete the cavity-causing strep mutans.  The idea is that people would get their mouths cleaned out really well, gargle with an antibiotic rinse to kill as many strep mutans as possible, then recolonize their mouths with his non-cavity-causing strep mutans, which would then kill off the last of the cavity-causing ones.  One of the big problems is that strep mutans is one of the bacteria that can cause infection of your heart valves if it gets into the bloodstream (which happens all the time while eating or brushing your teeth), and I think there was a lot of concern that the modified bacteria might be more likely to cause that, which would obviously be bad.  It&#039;s a cool idea though.  Last I heard they were still in initial testing, so maybe there were bugs to iron out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) there have been many advances in dentistry over the past hundred years, and dentistry is probably the most advanced medical subspecialty there is.  Dentists can pull out all of your teeth and replace them with implants that a layperson can&#8217;t distinguish from real teeth, and no other specialty can make that claim.  However, that stuff is really expensive.  It used to be that dentists just pulled teeth if they went bad, and that was really cheap.</p>
<p>2) we eat lots and lots of sugar, and people in the past didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>3) There is a vaccine-like strategy for cavities that was developed by a company called Oragenics.  Basically, cavities are initiated primarily by a bacterium called streptococcus mutans, which makes lactic acid that eats through tooth enamel.  The guy behind this (I think his name is Hillman) deleted the gene that makes lactic acid from the genome of strep mutans, then replaced it with an analogous gene from a harmless bacterium and also added a gene that caused his strep mutans to outcompete the cavity-causing strep mutans.  The idea is that people would get their mouths cleaned out really well, gargle with an antibiotic rinse to kill as many strep mutans as possible, then recolonize their mouths with his non-cavity-causing strep mutans, which would then kill off the last of the cavity-causing ones.  One of the big problems is that strep mutans is one of the bacteria that can cause infection of your heart valves if it gets into the bloodstream (which happens all the time while eating or brushing your teeth), and I think there was a lot of concern that the modified bacteria might be more likely to cause that, which would obviously be bad.  It&#8217;s a cool idea though.  Last I heard they were still in initial testing, so maybe there were bugs to iron out.</p>
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		<title>By: Vickie Kostecki</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/dollars-and-dentists-pbs-fron.html#comment-1460964</link>
		<dc:creator>Vickie Kostecki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a long time, the dental office I go to has had a steady stream of young, recently graduated dentists, join the practice who had to bill anything they could to (presumably) pay off their investment. About twice a year I would have to explain to a new dentist that, no, I did not need a whole new set of x-rays and half my fillings replaced, just because I had insurance. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a long time, the dental office I go to has had a steady stream of young, recently graduated dentists, join the practice who had to bill anything they could to (presumably) pay off their investment. About twice a year I would have to explain to a new dentist that, no, I did not need a whole new set of x-rays and half my fillings replaced, just because I had insurance. </p>
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		<title>By: Sinchy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/dollars-and-dentists-pbs-fron.html#comment-1460954</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always wondered why dental care was not part of overall health insurance.  The private health insurance system treats it as if your teeth had nothing to do with the rest of your body.  It&#039;s a bizarre disconnect that ignores the fact that food goes in your mouth and pain in your teeth is often the worst and most common type suffering people go through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always wondered why dental care was not part of overall health insurance.  The private health insurance system treats it as if your teeth had nothing to do with the rest of your body.  It&#8217;s a bizarre disconnect that ignores the fact that food goes in your mouth and pain in your teeth is often the worst and most common type suffering people go through.</p>
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		<title>By: Mantissa128</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/dollars-and-dentists-pbs-fron.html#comment-1460947</link>
		<dc:creator>Mantissa128</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 00:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But you don&#039;t understand. As long as we keep spending money to kill brown people, we are safe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But you don&#8217;t understand. As long as we keep spending money to kill brown people, we are safe!</p>
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		<title>By: Ethical Cannibal</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/dollars-and-dentists-pbs-fron.html#comment-1460945</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethical Cannibal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 00:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband are like all the other stories here. He&#039;s got terrible teeth from growing up in poverty in the US. He needs two bridges, but it took us twenty years for him to have a job that even half covered the costs. Half covered. That&#039;s with good insurance. 

Unlike some of these horror stories, we have a good dentist, that keeps costs low. He won&#039;t even do unnecessary work. I keep asking for vampire fangs longer than the artificial ones I have installed, and he won&#039;t do it because he is more worried about my teeth than the cash I&#039;d hand him. That means he&#039;s a keeper. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband are like all the other stories here. He&#8217;s got terrible teeth from growing up in poverty in the US. He needs two bridges, but it took us twenty years for him to have a job that even half covered the costs. Half covered. That&#8217;s with good insurance. </p>
<p>Unlike some of these horror stories, we have a good dentist, that keeps costs low. He won&#8217;t even do unnecessary work. I keep asking for vampire fangs longer than the artificial ones I have installed, and he won&#8217;t do it because he is more worried about my teeth than the cash I&#8217;d hand him. That means he&#8217;s a keeper. </p>
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		<title>By: John Giotta</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Giotta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 00:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dental coverage is a joke. They&#039;ll pay for cleanings twice a year, but if you need anything more than a cleaning and you&#039;ll be paying through the nose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dental coverage is a joke. They&#8217;ll pay for cleanings twice a year, but if you need anything more than a cleaning and you&#8217;ll be paying through the nose.</p>
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