Comments on: High-speed computer vision system beats you at Rock, Paper, Scissors every time http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: robdobbs http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1461991 robdobbs Thu, 28 Jun 2012 23:19:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1461991 I wonder how this robot would fair against itself? I wonder how this robot would fair against itself?

]]> By: malindrome http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1461334 malindrome Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:09:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1461334 Or a hide-and-seek-playing robot with GPS tracking devices. Or a hide-and-seek-playing robot with GPS tracking devices.

]]> By: Nadreck http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1461129 Nadreck Thu, 28 Jun 2012 05:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1461129 First chess; now this!  How is this thing at guessing your PIN by analysing your forearm movements as you punch it in? First chess; now this!  How is this thing at guessing your PIN by analysing your forearm movements as you punch it in?

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1461127 Antinous / Moderator Thu, 28 Jun 2012 05:47:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1461127 It's brave of you to admit that. It’s brave of you to admit that.

]]> By: Jack Everitt http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1461121 Jack Everitt Thu, 28 Jun 2012 05:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1461121 I don't understand why this is interesting.  I don’t understand why this is interesting. 

]]> By: Anon_Mahna http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1461080 Anon_Mahna Thu, 28 Jun 2012 04:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1461080 Keep your left arm off camera, motion with the right , toss sign with left. Keep your left arm off camera, motion with the right , toss sign with left.

]]> By: mothernatureseven http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1461054 mothernatureseven Thu, 28 Jun 2012 03:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1461054 a computer game that cheats ~ what a high minded use of new computer power ~ to frack over human contenders a computer game that cheats ~ what a high minded use of new computer power ~ to frack over human contenders

]]> By: crummett http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460874 crummett Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460874 As Leverage's hitter Elliot Spenser says to hacker Hardison after he always beats him at RPS, "You've got a tell." As Leverage’s hitter Elliot Spenser says to hacker Hardison after he always beats him at RPS, “You’ve got a tell.”

]]> By: oasisob1 http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460813 oasisob1 Wed, 27 Jun 2012 21:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460813 or against hand which unplugs robot! or against hand which unplugs robot!

]]> By: emo hex http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460756 emo hex Wed, 27 Jun 2012 20:58:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460756 Can't win against SLEDGE HAMMER! Can’t win against SLEDGE HAMMER!

]]> By: Boundegar http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460677 Boundegar Wed, 27 Jun 2012 19:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460677 This is only Phase I of the Human Instrumentality Project. This is only Phase I of the Human Instrumentality Project.

]]> By: LinkMan http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460622 LinkMan Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460622 It's a good thing David chose to play the WOPR at tic tac toe and not RPS. It’s a good thing David chose to play the WOPR at tic tac toe and not RPS.

]]> By: Glen Able http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460617 Glen Able Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460617 Fair point.  Maybe the next thing they'll make is a champion Go-playing robot that rearranges the stones whenever you're not looking. Fair point.  Maybe the next thing they’ll make is a champion Go-playing robot that rearranges the stones whenever you’re not looking.

]]> By: LinkMan http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460614 LinkMan Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460614  Are you suggesting a new strategy?  Are you suggesting a new strategy?

]]> By: GyroMagician http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460605 GyroMagician Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:16:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460605 This is exactly why I gave up robotics. And why I miss it. This is exactly why I gave up robotics. And why I miss it.

]]> By: Ryan Lenethen http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460602 Ryan Lenethen Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460602 Prediction: It will win until it plays a Wookie, at which point it will either be defeated, or lose a couple of arms... Prediction: It will win until it plays a Wookie, at which point it will either be defeated, or lose a couple of arms…

]]> By: georgebailey http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460587 georgebailey Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460587 Listen, and understand.  That terminator is out there.  It can't be bargained with.  It can't be reasoned with.  It can't lose at roshambo . . . Listen, and understand.  That terminator is out there.  It can’t be bargained with.  It can’t be reasoned with.  It can’t lose at roshambo . . .

]]> By: austinhamman http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460571 austinhamman Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460571 when you play robots(or amps) make sure you play under a cloth, then pull off the cloth(in a direction obscuring the robots view so you see before they do) when you play robots(or amps) make sure you play under a cloth, then pull off the cloth(in a direction obscuring the robots view so you see before they do)

]]> By: Rory Barr http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460567 Rory Barr Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460567 Christ, what an asshole. Christ, what an asshole.

]]> By: disillusion http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460555 disillusion Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460555 The problem is it's not conscious of its cheating, but rather is just doing what is what programmed to do. therefore there is no real nefarious intent.  If, by design, it could win at RPS without having the delay and STILL chose to cheat, THEN you'd have something. The problem is it’s not conscious of its cheating, but rather is just doing what is what programmed to do. therefore there is no real nefarious intent.  If, by design, it could win at RPS without having the delay and STILL chose to cheat, THEN you’d have something.

]]> By: bcsizemo http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460556 bcsizemo Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460556 Since it can play the basic 3 option design...lets bump it up to the 25. http://www.umop.com/rps25.htm And when you think the system has mastered that, go for 101. http://www.umop.com/rps101/rps101chart.html You might need another camera and certainly another hand... Since it can play the basic 3 option design…lets bump it up to the 25.
http://www.umop.com/rps25.htm

And when you think the system has mastered that, go for 101.
http://www.umop.com/rps101/rps101chart.html

You might need another camera and certainly another hand…

]]> By: Christopher http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460548 Christopher Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460548 Wasn't this a Doctor Who episode? Oh yeah...<i>Destiny Of The Daleks</i>. Wasn’t this a Doctor Who episode? Oh yeah…Destiny Of The Daleks.

]]> By: janusnode http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460545 janusnode Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:35:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460545 I for one welcome our new robot overlords. I for one welcome our new robot overlords.

]]> By: Listener43 http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460540 Listener43 Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:31:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460540 Is this a secondary Turing test? The ability to cheat successfully is evidence of nefarious intent, and intent is somehow related to intelligence? Sorry Ishikawa Oku Lab, my father, Listener 42, told me that cheaters never prosper. Is this a secondary Turing test? The ability to cheat successfully is evidence of nefarious intent, and intent is somehow related to intelligence?
Sorry Ishikawa Oku Lab, my father, Listener 42, told me that cheaters never prosper.

]]> By: Just_Ok http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460533 Just_Ok Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460533 spray paint in your other hand, or use a strong magnet. spray paint in your other hand, or use a strong magnet.

]]> By: Paul Knights http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460520 Paul Knights Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460520 Rock paper scissors is played by choosing the item at the same time, this is choosing the item after the other player. Therefore humans win by default since it is cheating. Rock paper scissors is played by choosing the item at the same time, this is choosing the item after the other player. Therefore humans win by default since it is cheating.

]]> By: Bashtarle http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460519 Bashtarle Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460519 That was darn fast but you could definitely tell a few times that the machine selected after the human had thrown. Even before they slowed the footage down.  The general moral of the story being, in the future don't let a round of RPS decide anything between you and an AI because they will cheat :) That was darn fast but you could definitely tell a few times that the machine selected after the human had thrown. Even before they slowed the footage down. 

The general moral of the story being, in the future don’t let a round of RPS decide anything between you and an AI because they will cheat :)

]]> By: Glen Able http://boingboing.net/2012/06/27/high-speed-computer-vision-sys.html#comment-1460518 Glen Able Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=167877#comment-1460518 Apparently the reason it did so well in its training for this game was because it was threatened with a lifetime of cleanup duty at Fukushima if it failed. Apparently the reason it did so well in its training for this game was because it was threatened with a lifetime of cleanup duty at Fukushima if it failed.

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