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	<title>Comments on: Sarah Robles: The strongest woman in America lives on $400 a&#160;month</title>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/28/sarah-robles-the-strongest-wo.html#comment-1463734</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 06:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psych,
Not sure if you&#039;re replying to me, but ... I wouldn&#039;t suggest anyone fund these athletes, or do anything else with their money (though some causes are objectively better than others, clearly).  I merely suggest a matching system, where people who WANT to help, can.  As I suggested, it&#039;s got nothing to do with the relative merit of what they do.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psych,<br />
Not sure if you&#8217;re replying to me, but &#8230; I wouldn&#8217;t suggest anyone fund these athletes, or do anything else with their money (though some causes are objectively better than others, clearly).  I merely suggest a matching system, where people who WANT to help, can.  As I suggested, it&#8217;s got nothing to do with the relative merit of what they do.  </p>
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		<title>By: psychedelicdonut</title>
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		<dc:creator>psychedelicdonut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 03:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who would you suggest fund these athletes? Why should we fund these athletes? Why don&#039;t you fund Starcraft players? No reason,  other than traditionally you&#039;ve placed emphasis on Olympic athletes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who would you suggest fund these athletes? Why should we fund these athletes? Why don&#8217;t you fund Starcraft players? No reason,  other than traditionally you&#8217;ve placed emphasis on Olympic athletes.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/28/sarah-robles-the-strongest-wo.html#comment-1463542</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 20:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t had a job with fixed hours in 16 years.  Money&#039;s incredibly convenient, but it can&#039;t make you happy.  Make a two-year plan and at the end of the two years, quit and do something more interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t had a job with fixed hours in 16 years.  Money&#8217;s incredibly convenient, but it can&#8217;t make you happy.  Make a two-year plan and at the end of the two years, quit and do something more interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: blueelm</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/28/sarah-robles-the-strongest-wo.html#comment-1463454</link>
		<dc:creator>blueelm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 17:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know. I gave up all of my dreams and my passion to make money. Now I make money. Some nights I think pretty seriously about suicide. It might not be worth it, you know, to live pointlessly just for the sake of staying alive with nothing you value in your life. Just sayin&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know. I gave up all of my dreams and my passion to make money. Now I make money. Some nights I think pretty seriously about suicide. It might not be worth it, you know, to live pointlessly just for the sake of staying alive with nothing you value in your life. Just sayin&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: blueelm</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/28/sarah-robles-the-strongest-wo.html#comment-1463453</link>
		<dc:creator>blueelm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 16:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I&#039;m curious what your sport was?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I&#8217;m curious what your sport was?</p>
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		<title>By: LogrusZed</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/28/sarah-robles-the-strongest-wo.html#comment-1463315</link>
		<dc:creator>LogrusZed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 08:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I was thinking the same thing. Power-lifters are all pretty barrel-shaped people. The lifestyle difference and appearance difference between them and bodybuilders is shaped by the goal. Bodybuilders want to look, to an ignorant lay-person, like they could do what actual lifters are capable of doing.

The sport I sometimes enjoy watching is the insane world of Strongman competitions. The body types there seem like a hybrid between the more cut/defined arms of builders and the squat torso-heavy build of lifters. The focus on reps probably gets them more cut up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I was thinking the same thing. Power-lifters are all pretty barrel-shaped people. The lifestyle difference and appearance difference between them and bodybuilders is shaped by the goal. Bodybuilders want to look, to an ignorant lay-person, like they could do what actual lifters are capable of doing.</p>
<p>The sport I sometimes enjoy watching is the insane world of Strongman competitions. The body types there seem like a hybrid between the more cut/defined arms of builders and the squat torso-heavy build of lifters. The focus on reps probably gets them more cut up.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/28/sarah-robles-the-strongest-wo.html#comment-1463277</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 05:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting discussion.  Why can&#039;t someone (I&#039;m not smart enough) create a simple online matching system, whereby people can help these athletes if they see fit?  Then, we wouldn&#039;t have to debate the value of a weightlifter vs. a math Ph.D., or whatever.   U.S. Olympic Committee, via facebook?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion.  Why can&#8217;t someone (I&#8217;m not smart enough) create a simple online matching system, whereby people can help these athletes if they see fit?  Then, we wouldn&#8217;t have to debate the value of a weightlifter vs. a math Ph.D., or whatever.   U.S. Olympic Committee, via facebook?  </p>
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		<title>By: atimoshenko</title>
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		<dc:creator>atimoshenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 20:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Sarah Robles seems like a great role model&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In the sense of doing what you love despite what others think about it/how much benefit it brings to others/its financial consequences? I suppose it&#039;s a fair point to make, but would it not equally apply to, say, drug addicts? I&#039;m all for people pursuing whatever it is they love, to hell with what everyone else thinks. I do not, however, see it as something to be admired or emulated. Indeed, if you have a role model, are you not giving up some of the &quot;for myself and no one else&quot;-ness?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sarah Robles seems like a great role model</p></blockquote>
<p>In the sense of doing what you love despite what others think about it/how much benefit it brings to others/its financial consequences? I suppose it&#8217;s a fair point to make, but would it not equally apply to, say, drug addicts? I&#8217;m all for people pursuing whatever it is they love, to hell with what everyone else thinks. I do not, however, see it as something to be admired or emulated. Indeed, if you have a role model, are you not giving up some of the &#8220;for myself and no one else&#8221;-ness?</p>
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		<title>By: cinilak</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinilak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel bad for anyone living on $400 in US,  but let&#039;s for a second assume that sports serve no purpose in society, other than entertainment, and what she does, not a lot of people would pay to see:

so, she can lift more than anyone else... and thus she should have an income based on that?

How about, parallel to her training, learning a trade to maintain herself in this cruel currency based world?

Hey I wanna be a novelist, musician and a film maker, but you know what, PHP, JS  &amp; MYSQL help nicely to maintain a lifestyle, whilst I do some of these in my spare time and keep rest on the back burner. 

I don&#039;t think ones who taken the risk to &#039;do what they love&#039; to maintain themselves should cry about it if it goes pear shaped. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel bad for anyone living on $400 in US,  but let&#8217;s for a second assume that sports serve no purpose in society, other than entertainment, and what she does, not a lot of people would pay to see:</p>
<p>so, she can lift more than anyone else&#8230; and thus she should have an income based on that?</p>
<p>How about, parallel to her training, learning a trade to maintain herself in this cruel currency based world?</p>
<p>Hey I wanna be a novelist, musician and a film maker, but you know what, PHP, JS  &amp; MYSQL help nicely to maintain a lifestyle, whilst I do some of these in my spare time and keep rest on the back burner. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think ones who taken the risk to &#8216;do what they love&#8217; to maintain themselves should cry about it if it goes pear shaped. </p>
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		<title>By: ChickieD</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChickieD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you read biographies of some of the bicyclists that have won the Tour de France, they live pretty much the same way. Anyone that is in one of the less popular sports is living on a friend&#039;s couch, eating ramen noodles, and training non-stop. Sarah Robles seems like a great role model, but she is on one of those sports that just does not get the attention. Certainly it doesn&#039;t help that she doesn&#039;t fit the stereotype of beauty - beach volleyball got popular pretty fast! - but I doubt the archery team is rolling in sponsorships either. My guess is that about 90% of the Olympic athletes live like her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you read biographies of some of the bicyclists that have won the Tour de France, they live pretty much the same way. Anyone that is in one of the less popular sports is living on a friend&#8217;s couch, eating ramen noodles, and training non-stop. Sarah Robles seems like a great role model, but she is on one of those sports that just does not get the attention. Certainly it doesn&#8217;t help that she doesn&#8217;t fit the stereotype of beauty &#8211; beach volleyball got popular pretty fast! &#8211; but I doubt the archery team is rolling in sponsorships either. My guess is that about 90% of the Olympic athletes live like her.</p>
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		<title>By: Cooper DiBiase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cooper DiBiase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t recollect whether it has been here or on Metafilter that I&#039;ve read a similar thread or two, but it&#039;s the dissimilarity that strikes me most: generally, when a group of people start commenting on weightlifters, it seems reasonable to state that a significant portion of them do not think very highly of a person who engages in the activity.  One might say that they feel free to heap abuse on them.  

And generally, the people who are discussed engaging in weightlifting are men.  Is it because Robles is a woman that she receives such a warm reception (which, IMO, she deserves, I should note).

Anyhow, if anyone wants to get all sociological on some forum and post anti-stereotypical stories to see whether the polarity of comments flips on those as well, I&#039;ll be tickled pink if I&#039;m able to locate them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t recollect whether it has been here or on Metafilter that I&#8217;ve read a similar thread or two, but it&#8217;s the dissimilarity that strikes me most: generally, when a group of people start commenting on weightlifters, it seems reasonable to state that a significant portion of them do not think very highly of a person who engages in the activity.  One might say that they feel free to heap abuse on them.  </p>
<p>And generally, the people who are discussed engaging in weightlifting are men.  Is it because Robles is a woman that she receives such a warm reception (which, IMO, she deserves, I should note).</p>
<p>Anyhow, if anyone wants to get all sociological on some forum and post anti-stereotypical stories to see whether the polarity of comments flips on those as well, I&#8217;ll be tickled pink if I&#8217;m able to locate them.</p>
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		<title>By: retepslluerb</title>
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		<dc:creator>retepslluerb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inventing a narrative.

We all do, of course, but as far as I know of the case, we don&#039;t know anything at all besides the bare facts. 

I&#039;ve seen “free strong spirits” and “people who seem like fun” do really shitty things to their next of kin.  And of course much more stupid (to outside observers) reasons for siblings not interacting which each other.

Again: All we know is that he doesn&#039;t want to watch her lift some weights.  I&#039;d simply leave to at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inventing a narrative.</p>
<p>We all do, of course, but as far as I know of the case, we don&#8217;t know anything at all besides the bare facts. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen “free strong spirits” and “people who seem like fun” do really shitty things to their next of kin.  And of course much more stupid (to outside observers) reasons for siblings not interacting which each other.</p>
<p>Again: All we know is that he doesn&#8217;t want to watch her lift some weights.  I&#8217;d simply leave to at that.</p>
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		<title>By: retepslluerb</title>
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		<dc:creator>retepslluerb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art usually doesn&#039;t wreck havoc with the local economy and doesn&#039;t foster corruption, tax cheating, bullying of citizens not willing to sale, massive tax subsidies by providing resources paid for by the citizens and insane laws. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art usually doesn&#8217;t wreck havoc with the local economy and doesn&#8217;t foster corruption, tax cheating, bullying of citizens not willing to sale, massive tax subsidies by providing resources paid for by the citizens and insane laws. </p>
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		<title>By: retepslluerb</title>
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		<dc:creator>retepslluerb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it will.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it will.  </p>
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		<title>By: cscott</title>
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		<dc:creator>cscott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 04:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They featured Holley on Hard Knocks, and you can see the resentment in Nick&#039;s face when they interact. MTV also did a TrueLife about her, and he was less then thrilled. I think he is probably embarrassed by his gargantuan sister. Growing up, she most likely tagged along, and made him self aware for her, bc she apparently is a very free strong spirit. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They featured Holley on Hard Knocks, and you can see the resentment in Nick&#8217;s face when they interact. MTV also did a TrueLife about her, and he was less then thrilled. I think he is probably embarrassed by his gargantuan sister. Growing up, she most likely tagged along, and made him self aware for her, bc she apparently is a very free strong spirit. </p>
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		<title>By: penguinchris</title>
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		<dc:creator>penguinchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 03:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, but you just described the arts as well. We both may see more value in the arts than in athletic competition, but not everyone does.

I&#039;m not particularly interested in the Olympics and I don&#039;t care at all about other sports, but I do admire athletes like this one (not so much the multimillionaire professionals). As a society we&#039;ve more or less moved past the point where great athletic skill or great strength are necessary, like you say, so what they&#039;re doing is essentially an art, and one that a lot of people do care about and admire.

That&#039;s not really an argument for paying her more than what she makes - she&#039;s not entitled to it, just like obscure artists aren&#039;t entitled to a steady paycheck - but that doesn&#039;t mean there&#039;s nothing to admire about what she does, and it doesn&#039;t mean there isn&#039;t any value to society in athletes like this. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, but you just described the arts as well. We both may see more value in the arts than in athletic competition, but not everyone does.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not particularly interested in the Olympics and I don&#8217;t care at all about other sports, but I do admire athletes like this one (not so much the multimillionaire professionals). As a society we&#8217;ve more or less moved past the point where great athletic skill or great strength are necessary, like you say, so what they&#8217;re doing is essentially an art, and one that a lot of people do care about and admire.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not really an argument for paying her more than what she makes &#8211; she&#8217;s not entitled to it, just like obscure artists aren&#8217;t entitled to a steady paycheck &#8211; but that doesn&#8217;t mean there&#8217;s nothing to admire about what she does, and it doesn&#8217;t mean there isn&#8217;t any value to society in athletes like this. </p>
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		<title>By: BongBong</title>
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		<dc:creator>BongBong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Olympics are an anachronistic form of entertainment that is unnecessary and the economic rewards of training to be an &quot;Olympian&quot; follows this logic. It is nothing more than entertainment for viewers, even as it represents personal bests for the performers involved. Why does it surprise anyone that this athlete is paid so little? There are no jobs that require her to perform 8 hours a day, 40 hours a week lifting giant weights... other than perhaps moving furniture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Olympics are an anachronistic form of entertainment that is unnecessary and the economic rewards of training to be an &#8220;Olympian&#8221; follows this logic. It is nothing more than entertainment for viewers, even as it represents personal bests for the performers involved. Why does it surprise anyone that this athlete is paid so little? There are no jobs that require her to perform 8 hours a day, 40 hours a week lifting giant weights&#8230; other than perhaps moving furniture.</p>
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		<title>By: picklefactory</title>
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		<dc:creator>picklefactory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:D</p>
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		<title>By: Halloween_Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Halloween_Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s something very sad, sick and wrong about the number of people who are trolling (or trying to troll) this thread--I can just guess from the context the sort of thing that was actually said. And, you know, there aren&#039;t nearly as many people in space-related post threads saying that we shouldn&#039;t be spending all that money on space exploration when there&#039;s hunger and homelessness on earth, even though the space program costs much, much more than sending athletes to the Games. 

Sarah Robles is a dedicated, lovely young lady who deserves way more support than she&#039;s getting, here or elsewhere. I wish her the best in London. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s something very sad, sick and wrong about the number of people who are trolling (or trying to troll) this thread&#8211;I can just guess from the context the sort of thing that was actually said. And, you know, there aren&#8217;t nearly as many people in space-related post threads saying that we shouldn&#8217;t be spending all that money on space exploration when there&#8217;s hunger and homelessness on earth, even though the space program costs much, much more than sending athletes to the Games. </p>
<p>Sarah Robles is a dedicated, lovely young lady who deserves way more support than she&#8217;s getting, here or elsewhere. I wish her the best in London. </p>
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		<title>By: Jorpho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorpho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, there &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; machines for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, there <i>are</i> machines for that.</p>
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		<title>By: BombBlastLightingWaltz</title>
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		<dc:creator>BombBlastLightingWaltz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reach for your goals and you will over come all obstacles. </description>
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		<title>By: MPAVictoria</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/28/sarah-robles-the-strongest-wo.html#comment-1462022</link>
		<dc:creator>MPAVictoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am against providing funding for any athletes while schools have to hold bake sales to buy textbooks and people go without health insurance. If this is her passion I wish her all the luck in the world. She seems to have a real gift. However funding sports will always come behind providing children with a decent education or sick people with the drugs they need to live. If she doesn&#039;t want to live on 400 dollars a month she could get a job doing something else. Perhaps coaching?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am against providing funding for any athletes while schools have to hold bake sales to buy textbooks and people go without health insurance. If this is her passion I wish her all the luck in the world. She seems to have a real gift. However funding sports will always come behind providing children with a decent education or sick people with the drugs they need to live. If she doesn&#8217;t want to live on 400 dollars a month she could get a job doing something else. Perhaps coaching?</p>
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		<title>By: bcsizemo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/28/sarah-robles-the-strongest-wo.html#comment-1461968</link>
		<dc:creator>bcsizemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And male weightlifters often get their sponsorships from supplements or diet pills, because their buff, ripped bodies align with male beauty ideals. Men on diet pills want to look like weightlifters — most women would rather not.&lt;/i&gt;

Just to point out something here.
Olympic style weight lifting, or weight lifting as a sport in general does NOT give you a body like that on the front of Muscle magazine or Arnold or Ronnie Coleman.

Strongmen and top tier weight lifters are strong as can be, but they are not ripped.  You might see one near %15 body fat, but really it&#039;s probably going to be higher than that.

Not saying that strongmen/women don&#039;t get the occasional sponsorship, but it isn&#039;t because they have chiseled abs and awesome arms.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And male weightlifters often get their sponsorships from supplements or diet pills, because their buff, ripped bodies align with male beauty ideals. Men on diet pills want to look like weightlifters — most women would rather not.</i></p>
<p>Just to point out something here.<br />
Olympic style weight lifting, or weight lifting as a sport in general does NOT give you a body like that on the front of Muscle magazine or Arnold or Ronnie Coleman.</p>
<p>Strongmen and top tier weight lifters are strong as can be, but they are not ripped.  You might see one near %15 body fat, but really it&#8217;s probably going to be higher than that.</p>
<p>Not saying that strongmen/women don&#8217;t get the occasional sponsorship, but it isn&#8217;t because they have chiseled abs and awesome arms.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/28/sarah-robles-the-strongest-wo.html#comment-1461947</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing that a ban hammer won&#039;t cure.</description>
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		<title>By: Althea Ann</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/28/sarah-robles-the-strongest-wo.html#comment-1461924</link>
		<dc:creator>Althea Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm... who are you to say what a woman is &#039;supposed&#039; to look like? I didn&#039;t know there were rules... fashions change, styles change... ideal appearances are not set in stone. Today&#039;s ideal isn&#039;t that of 100 years ago, let alone 1000,  and it&#039;s a sad and totalitarian society where everyone has to strive to look the same. Not everyone has to be a trend-chaser.
And... she probably puts more effort into &quot;taking care of herself&quot; than either you or I.

OK, yeah, feeding the troll, sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm&#8230; who are you to say what a woman is &#8216;supposed&#8217; to look like? I didn&#8217;t know there were rules&#8230; fashions change, styles change&#8230; ideal appearances are not set in stone. Today&#8217;s ideal isn&#8217;t that of 100 years ago, let alone 1000,  and it&#8217;s a sad and totalitarian society where everyone has to strive to look the same. Not everyone has to be a trend-chaser.<br />
And&#8230; she probably puts more effort into &#8220;taking care of herself&#8221; than either you or I.</p>
<p>OK, yeah, feeding the troll, sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: picklefactory</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/28/sarah-robles-the-strongest-wo.html#comment-1461909</link>
		<dc:creator>picklefactory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the fuck is wrong with you?</description>
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		<title>By: John Napsterista</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/28/sarah-robles-the-strongest-wo.html#comment-1461895</link>
		<dc:creator>John Napsterista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Holley Mangold sounds like a fun person.  She digs video games, played offensive line on her high school football team, is pursuing a triple major in theology, sociology and philosophy when she goes back to college, and makes self-deprecating wisecracks about not getting a tattoo because“fat girls” should not get the Olympic rings “tramp-stamped” on their backs.  

Her brother Nick won’t even be going to see her compete in London, ostensibly because it’s during preseason practice.  Jets coach Rex Ryan was “shocked” by that, and said he’s going to strongly encourage Nick to miss a couple days and go see his sister compete.  Nick did say that’d he’d find a way to watch it on TV though.  :-/  So yeah, sounds like there might be a mild degree of sibling estrangement going on there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Holley Mangold sounds like a fun person.  She digs video games, played offensive line on her high school football team, is pursuing a triple major in theology, sociology and philosophy when she goes back to college, and makes self-deprecating wisecracks about not getting a tattoo because“fat girls” should not get the Olympic rings “tramp-stamped” on their backs.  </p>
<p>Her brother Nick won’t even be going to see her compete in London, ostensibly because it’s during preseason practice.  Jets coach Rex Ryan was “shocked” by that, and said he’s going to strongly encourage Nick to miss a couple days and go see his sister compete.  Nick did say that’d he’d find a way to watch it on TV though.  :-/  So yeah, sounds like there might be a mild degree of sibling estrangement going on there.</p>
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		<title>By: malindrome</title>
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		<dc:creator>malindrome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I presume the athlete cares if they get paid or not.</description>
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		<title>By: Nda Nda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nda Nda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.  She beats other American women.  She doesn&#039;t even come close to American men, who can just pwn the everloving shit out of her totals.  There are guys who oly lift for fun who can do significantly more than her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.  She beats other American women.  She doesn&#8217;t even come close to American men, who can just pwn the everloving shit out of her totals.  There are guys who oly lift for fun who can do significantly more than her.</p>
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		<title>By: rsk</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/28/sarah-robles-the-strongest-wo.html#comment-1461805</link>
		<dc:creator>rsk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I agree entirely with your analysis: we really ought to debate where money should go first, then second, then third -- and hopefully we can arrive at some sort of rough consensus based on common values.  Maybe.

But the thing that galls me is that were our society not so incredibly skewed toward the rich, this debate would be superfluous.   The 1000 richest people in America easily have enough PERSONAL wealth to lift the 50 million poorest out of poverty.   They could do it tomorrow.    And they would STILL be the 1000 richest people in America afterwards.

But they won&#039;t.  Nor will they do it the next day.  And so instead those of us who are barely scraping by will need to try to figure out how we can scape by on just a little less so that we can at least try to help those who aren&#039;t making it at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I agree entirely with your analysis: we really ought to debate where money should go first, then second, then third &#8212; and hopefully we can arrive at some sort of rough consensus based on common values.  Maybe.</p>
<p>But the thing that galls me is that were our society not so incredibly skewed toward the rich, this debate would be superfluous.   The 1000 richest people in America easily have enough PERSONAL wealth to lift the 50 million poorest out of poverty.   They could do it tomorrow.    And they would STILL be the 1000 richest people in America afterwards.</p>
<p>But they won&#8217;t.  Nor will they do it the next day.  And so instead those of us who are barely scraping by will need to try to figure out how we can scape by on just a little less so that we can at least try to help those who aren&#8217;t making it at all.</p>
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