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	<title>Comments on: Stupid EU video PSA shows how *not* to promote science to young&#160;women</title>
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		<title>By: karounie</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/06/28/stupid-eu-video-psa-shows-how.html#comment-1463795</link>
		<dc:creator>karounie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 11:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> This one&#039;s a video Calvin Klein bottle.</description>
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		<title>By: Zak McKracken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zak McKracken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 01:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said!

The video advertises looking like a model and running about with test tubes.
I do know a few very good-looking females who do work in science, and I don&#039;t mind at all if someone shows that this exists, but that&#039;s not what the video does.
I bet the advertisement people were all like &quot;women are into cosmetics and shoes, so that&#039;s what we&#039;ll show them&quot;. They&#039;re enforcing a cliché when they should be encouraging the contrary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said!</p>
<p>The video advertises looking like a model and running about with test tubes.<br />
I do know a few very good-looking females who do work in science, and I don&#8217;t mind at all if someone shows that this exists, but that&#8217;s not what the video does.<br />
I bet the advertisement people were all like &#8220;women are into cosmetics and shoes, so that&#8217;s what we&#8217;ll show them&#8221;. They&#8217;re enforcing a cliché when they should be encouraging the contrary.</p>
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		<title>By: Zak McKracken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zak McKracken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 01:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow
One main problem of science is that it is &quot;spiced up&quot; far too much in the media already, and this spot just did that over the top.

In advertising, you&#039;ve won if you persuade someone to buy a product. But with science, if you&#039;ve persuaded all those would-be models to go study theoretical physics, they _will_ sooner or later realize it&#039;s not about getting the attention of that good-looking guy behind the microscope and ... whatever those girls are supposed to be doing in that video.
And if they don&#039;t like _that_, they&#039;re out again, so there you go...

I think what&#039;s needed is depicting science much more realistically rather than sexing it up. That may or may not include really good-looking people, but that&#039;s entirely beside the point. Science is about people trying to figure out facts, and I&#039;ve no idea how this ad should interest people in facts ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow<br />
One main problem of science is that it is &#8220;spiced up&#8221; far too much in the media already, and this spot just did that over the top.</p>
<p>In advertising, you&#8217;ve won if you persuade someone to buy a product. But with science, if you&#8217;ve persuaded all those would-be models to go study theoretical physics, they _will_ sooner or later realize it&#8217;s not about getting the attention of that good-looking guy behind the microscope and &#8230; whatever those girls are supposed to be doing in that video.<br />
And if they don&#8217;t like _that_, they&#8217;re out again, so there you go&#8230;</p>
<p>I think what&#8217;s needed is depicting science much more realistically rather than sexing it up. That may or may not include really good-looking people, but that&#8217;s entirely beside the point. Science is about people trying to figure out facts, and I&#8217;ve no idea how this ad should interest people in facts &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kristen Occupywallst Weight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristen Occupywallst Weight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 20:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this program last night, and I thought, now why can&#039;t they make a commercial with this woman for young ladies?  She is so smart and enthusiastic, she makes ME want to be an astronomer!  

The International Year of Astronomy 
Catherine Cesarsky - International Astronomical Union   

&quot;I think astronomy in general, and the big discoveries we are doing now in particular can do a lot to change the lives of a lot of people because we are studying the universe and it’s not just our universe, it’s everybody’s universe. My own experience is that once you start talking to people, everybody wants to know where do we come from, where are we going, what are our dreams, what is our destiny as a race, everything. 

&quot;And we are really trying to understand some of this. This is why, for instance, in 2009, we will declare that 2009 is the International Year of Astronomy, four hundred years after the first observations with the Galileo telescope. And the aim of this, our motto is, “The universe – yours to discover.” What we are doing is not to please a handful of astronomers, I think that what we discovered interests everybody and we want everybody to know.&quot;

http://www.pbs.org/soptv/400years/en/video/video.php?page=3&amp;per=25&amp;e&amp;q

You have to scroll about 7/8 down the page to see this particular excerpt...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this program last night, and I thought, now why can&#8217;t they make a commercial with this woman for young ladies?  She is so smart and enthusiastic, she makes ME want to be an astronomer!  </p>
<p>The International Year of Astronomy<br />
Catherine Cesarsky &#8211; International Astronomical Union   </p>
<p>&#8220;I think astronomy in general, and the big discoveries we are doing now in particular can do a lot to change the lives of a lot of people because we are studying the universe and it’s not just our universe, it’s everybody’s universe. My own experience is that once you start talking to people, everybody wants to know where do we come from, where are we going, what are our dreams, what is our destiny as a race, everything. </p>
<p>&#8220;And we are really trying to understand some of this. This is why, for instance, in 2009, we will declare that 2009 is the International Year of Astronomy, four hundred years after the first observations with the Galileo telescope. And the aim of this, our motto is, “The universe – yours to discover.” What we are doing is not to please a handful of astronomers, I think that what we discovered interests everybody and we want everybody to know.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/soptv/400years/en/video/video.php?page=3&#038;per=25&#038;e&#038;q" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/soptv/400years/en/video/video.php?page=3&#038;per=25&#038;e&#038;q</a></p>
<p>You have to scroll about 7/8 down the page to see this particular excerpt&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rindan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rindan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 15:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am pretty sure that just keeping their mouth shut would have been a better argument than this shit video.  

I went to school for Chemical Engineering, which has a shockingly high number of women in it.  Our class was split almost 50/50 m/f.  All of those women would have been pissed if they had seen this.  They went into STEMs because they valued something a little higher than looking pretty for boys.  That isn&#039;t to imply that they were ugly kids running away from the mean bullies.  On the contrary, most of them were quite fit, but that wasn&#039;t the source of their personal power.  Their power came from being intelligent and curious. 

The stuff that dragged the girls into STEMs was more or less exactly the same stuff that dragged the boys in.  All chemical engineers, pretty much without exception, like to blow things up.  The girls were no exception.  Read a transcript of what got them in, and you would find it impossible to split them into boy and girl piles.

The real problem is that this kind of targeting girls with stupid girly shit advertising fails because it perpetuates the stereotypes that cause girls to be too socially dysfunctional to want to enter science, much less survive there.

If you want a real PSA announcement targeting girls, have some girls sitting around blowing shit up and having a merry old time, then flash forward to them blowing up shit that is bigger in a professional capacity and having a merry old time.  That will convince far more women to join STEMs in a far healthier way than this utterly stupid video that is actively damaging to women in STEMs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am pretty sure that just keeping their mouth shut would have been a better argument than this shit video.  </p>
<p>I went to school for Chemical Engineering, which has a shockingly high number of women in it.  Our class was split almost 50/50 m/f.  All of those women would have been pissed if they had seen this.  They went into STEMs because they valued something a little higher than looking pretty for boys.  That isn&#8217;t to imply that they were ugly kids running away from the mean bullies.  On the contrary, most of them were quite fit, but that wasn&#8217;t the source of their personal power.  Their power came from being intelligent and curious. </p>
<p>The stuff that dragged the girls into STEMs was more or less exactly the same stuff that dragged the boys in.  All chemical engineers, pretty much without exception, like to blow things up.  The girls were no exception.  Read a transcript of what got them in, and you would find it impossible to split them into boy and girl piles.</p>
<p>The real problem is that this kind of targeting girls with stupid girly shit advertising fails because it perpetuates the stereotypes that cause girls to be too socially dysfunctional to want to enter science, much less survive there.</p>
<p>If you want a real PSA announcement targeting girls, have some girls sitting around blowing shit up and having a merry old time, then flash forward to them blowing up shit that is bigger in a professional capacity and having a merry old time.  That will convince far more women to join STEMs in a far healthier way than this utterly stupid video that is actively damaging to women in STEMs.</p>
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		<title>By: billstewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>billstewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 06:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Really.  There were so &lt;i&gt;many&lt;/i&gt; different levels of wrongness in this mess!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Really.  There were so <i>many</i> different levels of wrongness in this mess!</p>
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		<title>By: billstewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>billstewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 06:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, there can be interesting chemical issues regarding make-up and related products.  My wife and I were in one chemistry course together in college (she&#039;s a computer scientist, so we didn&#039;t do a lot of chem..)  She did have one issue she asked the teacher about, regarding some hair care product that had polymerized when mixed with something.  It&#039;s long enough ago that I&#039;ve forgotten the details, and we didn&#039;t cover much organic chem in the intro classes, but you can get the occasional surprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, there can be interesting chemical issues regarding make-up and related products.  My wife and I were in one chemistry course together in college (she&#8217;s a computer scientist, so we didn&#8217;t do a lot of chem..)  She did have one issue she asked the teacher about, regarding some hair care product that had polymerized when mixed with something.  It&#8217;s long enough ago that I&#8217;ve forgotten the details, and we didn&#8217;t cover much organic chem in the intro classes, but you can get the occasional surprise.</p>
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		<title>By: billstewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>billstewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 06:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Figured it was worth the risk, even though it was a troll :-)  One of my friends has been recommending that I try knitting to help my wrist problems, and it&#039;s on my &quot;things to get around to&quot; list...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Figured it was worth the risk, even though it was a troll :-)  One of my friends has been recommending that I try knitting to help my wrist problems, and it&#8217;s on my &#8220;things to get around to&#8221; list&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: billstewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>billstewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 06:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it&#039;s true that just about all the boys I know who became engineers (even computer engineers) really liked playing with explosives when we were kids, that was also true about the girls I know who became engineers.  

One of the many serious problems is that the safety-paranoia culture that&#039;s gotten rid of see-saws on playgrounds and diving boards in swimming pools has also gotten rid of chemistry sets for kids that let you make explosives.  Instead, they&#039;d be better off pushing &quot;girls can blow stuff up too!&quot;

(And yes, those examples may risk labelling me as being old enough that &quot;computer games&quot; involved paper teletypes.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it&#8217;s true that just about all the boys I know who became engineers (even computer engineers) really liked playing with explosives when we were kids, that was also true about the girls I know who became engineers.  </p>
<p>One of the many serious problems is that the safety-paranoia culture that&#8217;s gotten rid of see-saws on playgrounds and diving boards in swimming pools has also gotten rid of chemistry sets for kids that let you make explosives.  Instead, they&#8217;d be better off pushing &#8220;girls can blow stuff up too!&#8221;</p>
<p>(And yes, those examples may risk labelling me as being old enough that &#8220;computer games&#8221; involved paper teletypes.)</p>
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		<title>By: billstewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>billstewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 05:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I think it&#039;s more likely that the target is the kind of people who went into advertising because they didn&#039;t have a clue about either science or girls...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I think it&#8217;s more likely that the target is the kind of people who went into advertising because they didn&#8217;t have a clue about either science or girls&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: billstewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>billstewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 05:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Now, Neil deGrasse Tyson showing why you can&#039;t dribble a watermelon the way you can a basketball?  That might be fun.  (Or at least, it would mix well with Dave Letterman dropping watermelons off the roof and the Mythbusters shooting them with various kinds of bullets and explosives.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Now, Neil deGrasse Tyson showing why you can&#8217;t dribble a watermelon the way you can a basketball?  That might be fun.  (Or at least, it would mix well with Dave Letterman dropping watermelons off the roof and the Mythbusters shooting them with various kinds of bullets and explosives.)</p>
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		<title>By: billstewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>billstewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 05:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> And Rule 34 says there&#039;s a website about it already...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> And Rule 34 says there&#8217;s a website about it already&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: chgoliz</title>
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		<dc:creator>chgoliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I finally steeled myself and watched the video.  How does it start?  With the observer (a male scientist) and the observed (younger female performers dancing towards him).  From that point on, effectively we&#039;re seeing the video through his eyes.

Does Feminism 101 not exist anymore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I finally steeled myself and watched the video.  How does it start?  With the observer (a male scientist) and the observed (younger female performers dancing towards him).  From that point on, effectively we&#8217;re seeing the video through his eyes.</p>
<p>Does Feminism 101 not exist anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: Guido</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like this one as a promotion of science in a funny way:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBCmt_pJTRA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like this one as a promotion of science in a funny way:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBCmt_pJTRA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBCmt_pJTRA</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Reena Pau  performed an &quot;informal study&quot; with  &quot;38 girls, aged between 9 and 13 (with an average of 10.8). 11 of these girls had parents who worked in a scientific job. The group was asked about their perceptions of science careers before and after watching the video.&quot; 

Basically, the video was generally taken positively and apparently changed their mindset/acceptability of science careers.

http://reenapau.wordpress.com/2012/06/26/science-what-the-girls-think/
via http://scientopia.org/blogs/scicurious/2012/06/27/science-its-a-people-thing/

Good discussion in the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Reena Pau  performed an &#8220;informal study&#8221; with  &#8220;38 girls, aged between 9 and 13 (with an average of 10.8). 11 of these girls had parents who worked in a scientific job. The group was asked about their perceptions of science careers before and after watching the video.&#8221; </p>
<p>Basically, the video was generally taken positively and apparently changed their mindset/acceptability of science careers.</p>
<p><a href="http://reenapau.wordpress.com/2012/06/26/science-what-the-girls-think/" rel="nofollow">http://reenapau.wordpress.com/2012/06/26/science-what-the-girls-think/</a><br />
via <a href="http://scientopia.org/blogs/scicurious/2012/06/27/science-its-a-people-thing/" rel="nofollow">http://scientopia.org/blogs/scicurious/2012/06/27/science-its-a-people-thing/</a></p>
<p>Good discussion in the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: chgoliz</title>
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		<dc:creator>chgoliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It happens to the best of us.  I cooked last night&#039;s dinner (4 burners going at the same time) wearing a polyester dress with dangling sleeves.  Yes, I realized how stupid it was.  Made me keep my concentration directly focused the entire time, let me tell you!  If our guests hadn&#039;t already arrived, I would have changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It happens to the best of us.  I cooked last night&#8217;s dinner (4 burners going at the same time) wearing a polyester dress with dangling sleeves.  Yes, I realized how stupid it was.  Made me keep my concentration directly focused the entire time, let me tell you!  If our guests hadn&#8217;t already arrived, I would have changed.</p>
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		<title>By: chgoliz</title>
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		<dc:creator>chgoliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, my kids&#039; grade school offered an after-school activity: chess for girls.  It was the most boring introduction to chess I&#039;ve ever seen (they didn&#039;t ever get to play an actual game with all the pieces, over a 10-class arc) but somehow the fact that there weren&#039;t boys in the room (other than the teacher) was supposed to make everything OK.  It took years before they were willing to reconsider learning to play the game.

At least the playing pieces weren&#039;t pink.  Small mercies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, my kids&#8217; grade school offered an after-school activity: chess for girls.  It was the most boring introduction to chess I&#8217;ve ever seen (they didn&#8217;t ever get to play an actual game with all the pieces, over a 10-class arc) but somehow the fact that there weren&#8217;t boys in the room (other than the teacher) was supposed to make everything OK.  It took years before they were willing to reconsider learning to play the game.</p>
<p>At least the playing pieces weren&#8217;t pink.  Small mercies.</p>
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		<title>By: chgoliz</title>
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		<dc:creator>chgoliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, no, actually....that would work, in our household!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, no, actually&#8230;.that would work, in our household!</p>
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		<title>By: chgoliz</title>
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		<dc:creator>chgoliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup.</description>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
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		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me it looks like it was created by Kelly Kapoor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me it looks like it was created by Kelly Kapoor.</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
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		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, nice. Thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: LaylaSV</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaylaSV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, not anybody, but four gender experts, a &quot;pool&quot; of communication experts, three marketing consultancies, and an ad agency all had their hands in that pie.

In all fairness, the gender experts are saying that all of their points were ignored in favor of the opinions of the ad agency people. The very ad people who thought that science was too &quot;dry&quot; and &quot;factual&quot; and needed to be glammed up. Which is hilarious when, if nothing else, there are entire television networks attesting to the sheer entertainment value of science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, not anybody, but four gender experts, a &#8220;pool&#8221; of communication experts, three marketing consultancies, and an ad agency all had their hands in that pie.</p>
<p>In all fairness, the gender experts are saying that all of their points were ignored in favor of the opinions of the ad agency people. The very ad people who thought that science was too &#8220;dry&#8221; and &#8220;factual&#8221; and needed to be glammed up. Which is hilarious when, if nothing else, there are entire television networks attesting to the sheer entertainment value of science.</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You may also note that STEM is marketed to boys using things that stereotypically appeal to boys (`splosions and phallic rockets and computer games).&lt;/blockquote&gt;Is it?  Where?  Also, do you think this works?  I guarantee anyone who went into physics for the explosions got REALLY bored when they realized they&#039;d just be doing calculus for the next three years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You may also note that STEM is marketed to boys using things that stereotypically appeal to boys (`splosions and phallic rockets and computer games).</p></blockquote>
<p>Is it?  Where?  Also, do you think this works?  I guarantee anyone who went into physics for the explosions got REALLY bored when they realized they&#8217;d just be doing calculus for the next three years.</p>
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		<title>By: gsilas</title>
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		<dc:creator>gsilas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In too late, but I have a good one for you:

I recieve the ACS (American Chemical Society) Diversity emails, as a practicing chemist.  About a year ago, they sent out an article encouraging high school experiments involving cosmetics and perfumes, because the current curriculum is too masculine.  For the ACS Diversity division to think that girls can only be interested in make-up is astonishing to me.  I always hoped whoever wrote that editorial got fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In too late, but I have a good one for you:</p>
<p>I recieve the ACS (American Chemical Society) Diversity emails, as a practicing chemist.  About a year ago, they sent out an article encouraging high school experiments involving cosmetics and perfumes, because the current curriculum is too masculine.  For the ACS Diversity division to think that girls can only be interested in make-up is astonishing to me.  I always hoped whoever wrote that editorial got fired.</p>
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		<title>By: dpamac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dpamac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you ask me, Mates of States did a better job showing girls in science in their video for their cover of Guided By Voices&#039; &quot;I Am a Scientist.&quot; To me, that&#039;s what science is about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpgc_cvCsP4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you ask me, Mates of States did a better job showing girls in science in their video for their cover of Guided By Voices&#8217; &#8220;I Am a Scientist.&#8221; To me, that&#8217;s what science is about:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpgc_cvCsP4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpgc_cvCsP4</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alexsander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexsander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you haven&#039;t seen the &quot;knitting is a boy thing&quot; campaign ad!

http://knittingboys.eu/#

Ah Ah, you almost clicked on the link, didn&#039;t ya?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you haven&#8217;t seen the &#8220;knitting is a boy thing&#8221; campaign ad!</p>
<p><a href="http://knittingboys.eu/#" rel="nofollow">http://knittingboys.eu/#</a></p>
<p>Ah Ah, you almost clicked on the link, didn&#8217;t ya?</p>
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		<title>By: pKp</title>
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		<dc:creator>pKp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Already aired. And I agree. Most women I know have watched it, too, even ones who aren&#039;t particularly geeky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Already aired. And I agree. Most women I know have watched it, too, even ones who aren&#8217;t particularly geeky.</p>
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		<title>By: Vole_tron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vole_tron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a knowing parody of a make-up adverts and the pseudo-scientific bullshit used in them  e.g. &quot;here comes the science bit&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a knowing parody of a make-up adverts and the pseudo-scientific bullshit used in them  e.g. &#8220;here comes the science bit&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: robuluz</title>
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		<dc:creator>robuluz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No it&#039;s shit. It says &quot;Hey, girls! You are primarily concerned with empty vacuous superficial bullshit, right? Science can be as empty and vacuous and superficial as the rest of popular culture you know!&quot;

Which is just wrong on so many levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No it&#8217;s shit. It says &#8220;Hey, girls! You are primarily concerned with empty vacuous superficial bullshit, right? Science can be as empty and vacuous and superficial as the rest of popular culture you know!&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is just wrong on so many levels.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Hornby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Hornby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what its worth almost every single person within the boundaries of the EU as condemned this video.

It did the rounds last week in the UK and even some of the more right leaning media outlets picked up on its hugely patronising ridiculousness. If conservatives can recognise that something is wrong, it must be really wrong. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what its worth almost every single person within the boundaries of the EU as condemned this video.</p>
<p>It did the rounds last week in the UK and even some of the more right leaning media outlets picked up on its hugely patronising ridiculousness. If conservatives can recognise that something is wrong, it must be really wrong. </p>
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