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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/02/bronycon.html#comment-1465397</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 10:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully support all consensual perversion.  Especially if there are videos.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/02/bronycon.html#comment-1465371</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 09:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bronies remind me of male Sailor Moon fans from 15 years ago, both in the good and the bad.  

Sometimes younger fans do tend to get overzealous and obnoxious , which is part of where the bad rap comes from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bronies remind me of male Sailor Moon fans from 15 years ago, both in the good and the bad.  </p>
<p>Sometimes younger fans do tend to get overzealous and obnoxious , which is part of where the bad rap comes from.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakkus Psykozohedron</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/02/bronycon.html#comment-1465315</link>
		<dc:creator>Drakkus Psykozohedron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 07:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there! Proud clopper here. I will not allow myself or my fellow cloppers to be marginalized for sexual fantasies involving what amount to cartoon marshmallows just because you find the idea uncomfortable. 

A _thought_ has no inherent moral value, positive or negative, and masturbation does no harm to anyone at all. Therefore, your disgust is entirely a matter of private taste.  You think it&#039;s creepy. Fine. But don&#039;t presume to attempt to normalize your view.

You see, when you do that, you&#039;re promoting an atmosphere wherein _thought crime_ becomes a viable concept. And I have no intention of allowing that.

There&#039;s no such thing. Do you want to risk creating it?

Jed? I&#039;ve yet to find myself cast out of a community for clop.

Oh, and I would be _delighted_ to kick the little kids out of the fandom entirely. They spoil it by giving people like you an excuse for suspicion. 

I hate kids, personally. ^_^

-Alan J. Zeni Jr., Brony, Otaku, Fur, Geek. 
I go by Haut Drakkie Chaotika Psykzozohedron on G+, I live in Morgantown, WV and I am 33 years old and male. I stand by my word. 

Oh, yes. In case the login blocks it somehow (I don&#039;t usually read boingboing.net), here&#039;s my G+ profile: 

https://plus.google.com/u/0/115238874420960189750</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there! Proud clopper here. I will not allow myself or my fellow cloppers to be marginalized for sexual fantasies involving what amount to cartoon marshmallows just because you find the idea uncomfortable. </p>
<p>A _thought_ has no inherent moral value, positive or negative, and masturbation does no harm to anyone at all. Therefore, your disgust is entirely a matter of private taste.  You think it&#8217;s creepy. Fine. But don&#8217;t presume to attempt to normalize your view.</p>
<p>You see, when you do that, you&#8217;re promoting an atmosphere wherein _thought crime_ becomes a viable concept. And I have no intention of allowing that.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no such thing. Do you want to risk creating it?</p>
<p>Jed? I&#8217;ve yet to find myself cast out of a community for clop.</p>
<p>Oh, and I would be _delighted_ to kick the little kids out of the fandom entirely. They spoil it by giving people like you an excuse for suspicion. </p>
<p>I hate kids, personally. ^_^</p>
<p>-Alan J. Zeni Jr., Brony, Otaku, Fur, Geek. <br />
I go by Haut Drakkie Chaotika Psykzozohedron on G+, I live in Morgantown, WV and I am 33 years old and male. I stand by my word. </p>
<p>Oh, yes. In case the login blocks it somehow (I don&#8217;t usually read boingboing.net), here&#8217;s my G+ profile: </p>
<p><a href="https://plus.google.com/u/0/115238874420960189750" rel="nofollow">https://plus.google.com/u/0/115238874420960189750</a></p>
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		<title>By: sakusakusakura_nyo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/02/bronycon.html#comment-1465301</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 06:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Little Pony is the best cartoon ever and it&#039;s COOL.  Of course the mainstream media is going to attack it, that&#039;s just what they do!  You guys who think it&#039;s weird probably would have hated the Beatles in the 60&#039;s too.   Saying &quot;I can&#039;t watch this cartoon because it has unicorns in it&quot; just makes you sound old and out of touch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Little Pony is the best cartoon ever and it&#8217;s COOL.  Of course the mainstream media is going to attack it, that&#8217;s just what they do!  You guys who think it&#8217;s weird probably would have hated the Beatles in the 60&#8242;s too.   Saying &#8220;I can&#8217;t watch this cartoon because it has unicorns in it&#8221; just makes you sound old and out of touch.</p>
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		<title>By: JProffitt71</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/02/bronycon.html#comment-1464905</link>
		<dc:creator>JProffitt71</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 23:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allow me to offer a slightly more nuanced perspective from the &quot;inside&quot;. I am a brony. I watch the cartoons and particularly enjoy the music the fandom creates - my favorite category is &quot;Media&quot;. I have family that love drawing ponies and I support the hell out of them. Sometimes when I have more time I may even read some stories, though I stay away from &quot;grimdark&quot; and &quot;shipping&quot; types, tending towards more canon tales.

I enjoy the world of MLP:FiM for what it is, something that wonderful writing and great production value created and which I enjoy extending. There is nothing particularly special about that, and likewise nothing abnormal in my motives. Part of the theme of MLP:FiM is innocence, so naturally I tend away from friskier/darker works, which don&#039;t enjoy universal acceptance for that same reason. This fandom like any other is not cohesive, and it definitely does not revolve around &quot;the sexualization of a children&#039;s product&quot;, I would even bet that your typical brony would feel pretty uncomfortable with that.

As far as bronies asserting a sense of entitlement, I don&#039;t know what I can tell you. I think MLP:FiM has already proven to be a show for anyone, and I can&#039;t see how my liking it would take it away from its original audience. It&#039;s not like little girls are being excluded from the show or community, if anything there is now a pretty powerful community for their ideas to be heard, just like boingboing offers a pretty powerful channel for younger creative minds.

My point is that there isn&#039;t something broken or perverted about my affinity for MLP:FiM, nothing even particularly different, I am simply bending a gender stereotype and to a lesser degree an age stereotype. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allow me to offer a slightly more nuanced perspective from the &#8220;inside&#8221;. I am a brony. I watch the cartoons and particularly enjoy the music the fandom creates &#8211; my favorite category is &#8220;Media&#8221;. I have family that love drawing ponies and I support the hell out of them. Sometimes when I have more time I may even read some stories, though I stay away from &#8220;grimdark&#8221; and &#8220;shipping&#8221; types, tending towards more canon tales.</p>
<p>I enjoy the world of MLP:FiM for what it is, something that wonderful writing and great production value created and which I enjoy extending. There is nothing particularly special about that, and likewise nothing abnormal in my motives. Part of the theme of MLP:FiM is innocence, so naturally I tend away from friskier/darker works, which don&#8217;t enjoy universal acceptance for that same reason. This fandom like any other is not cohesive, and it definitely does not revolve around &#8220;the sexualization of a children&#8217;s product&#8221;, I would even bet that your typical brony would feel pretty uncomfortable with that.</p>
<p>As far as bronies asserting a sense of entitlement, I don&#8217;t know what I can tell you. I think MLP:FiM has already proven to be a show for anyone, and I can&#8217;t see how my liking it would take it away from its original audience. It&#8217;s not like little girls are being excluded from the show or community, if anything there is now a pretty powerful community for their ideas to be heard, just like boingboing offers a pretty powerful channel for younger creative minds.</p>
<p>My point is that there isn&#8217;t something broken or perverted about my affinity for MLP:FiM, nothing even particularly different, I am simply bending a gender stereotype and to a lesser degree an age stereotype. </p>
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		<title>By: Jed Stevens</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/02/bronycon.html#comment-1464746</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 21:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only the people sexualizing it are just a small corner of the fandom. Every fandom has its sexual corner, and if anything, I&#039;d say My Little Pony has one of the smallest ones I&#039;ve seen. Except for the imageboards, the bigger fansites don&#039;t contain any sexual content at all. I mean, sexualization certainly exists, but saying that the fandom revolves around it is a pretty massive misrepresentation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only the people sexualizing it are just a small corner of the fandom. Every fandom has its sexual corner, and if anything, I&#8217;d say My Little Pony has one of the smallest ones I&#8217;ve seen. Except for the imageboards, the bigger fansites don&#8217;t contain any sexual content at all. I mean, sexualization certainly exists, but saying that the fandom revolves around it is a pretty massive misrepresentation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Ramsey</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/02/bronycon.html#comment-1464641</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Ramsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 20:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. Nooo no no no. 

edit: To clarify, I admit I have a soft spot for a good Internet fandom trainwreck, and I&#039;ve been watching the brony phenomenon with incredulity, horror and fascination for months now. I haven&#039;t gazed far enough into the abyss to go on a full-fledged rant, but suffice to say for some reason this particular series brings out the worst in folks. There&#039;s a strong attitude of bronies being the &quot;real&quot; audience of the show, and all the entitlement and co-opting that comes with that -- think an array of the vilest Rule 34 fetish/underage fan-art pornography imaginable, coupled with a refusal to tag it accordingly so kids can&#039;t stumble across it. Not to mention stomach-churning racism http://i.imgur.com/SR6XF.png and gory, &quot;edgy&quot; fanart galore.

Don&#039;t get me wrong; I&#039;ve been on the Internet, and obsessive fans are going to produce creepy shit no matter what their target. My problem is that the fandom itself revolves around the sexualization of a children&#039;s product. They call masturbating to pony pornography &quot;clopping,&quot; and it&#039;s given legitimate acceptance as a part of the subculture. Good grief.

All of this is not to cast aspersions on the source material itself; it sounds like a good, girl-positive cartoon in an era when intelligent, relatable female protagonists for kids are nigh-unheard of. And that&#039;s the saddest part about the whole thing: 18-40 y/o white dudes, not content with having literally everything else in the world targeted towards them, are insisting that this is theirs too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. Nooo no no no. </p>
<p>edit: To clarify, I admit I have a soft spot for a good Internet fandom trainwreck, and I&#8217;ve been watching the brony phenomenon with incredulity, horror and fascination for months now. I haven&#8217;t gazed far enough into the abyss to go on a full-fledged rant, but suffice to say for some reason this particular series brings out the worst in folks. There&#8217;s a strong attitude of bronies being the &#8220;real&#8221; audience of the show, and all the entitlement and co-opting that comes with that &#8212; think an array of the vilest Rule 34 fetish/underage fan-art pornography imaginable, coupled with a refusal to tag it accordingly so kids can&#8217;t stumble across it. Not to mention stomach-churning racism <a href="http://i.imgur.com/SR6XF.png" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/SR6XF.png</a> and gory, &#8220;edgy&#8221; fanart galore.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong; I&#8217;ve been on the Internet, and obsessive fans are going to produce creepy shit no matter what their target. My problem is that the fandom itself revolves around the sexualization of a children&#8217;s product. They call masturbating to pony pornography &#8220;clopping,&#8221; and it&#8217;s given legitimate acceptance as a part of the subculture. Good grief.</p>
<p>All of this is not to cast aspersions on the source material itself; it sounds like a good, girl-positive cartoon in an era when intelligent, relatable female protagonists for kids are nigh-unheard of. And that&#8217;s the saddest part about the whole thing: 18-40 y/o white dudes, not content with having literally everything else in the world targeted towards them, are insisting that this is theirs too.</p>
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		<title>By: penguinchris</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/02/bronycon.html#comment-1464622</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 19:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think they&#039;re weird or anything (superfans of other, more &quot;acceptable&quot; things are often a lot weirder) and have no problem with it myself. 

But I do think there&#039;s a certain built-in quality here; you can&#039;t approach something like bronyism without instinctively passing it through your &quot;is this weird/creepy/etc.?&quot; filter. It&#039;s no surprise that for a lot of people it doesn&#039;t pass that filter.

Also, though, I think a lot of the controversy is manufactured. Most people will see bronies and roll their eyes and forget about it a few minutes later. Hysterical media outlets are not the only ones to blame here - bronies always seem to be proactively on the defense. As someone with &quot;weird&quot; preferences and tendencies and so on myself I understand the impulse for being proactively defensive, but I realized eventually that it does more harm than good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re weird or anything (superfans of other, more &#8220;acceptable&#8221; things are often a lot weirder) and have no problem with it myself. </p>
<p>But I do think there&#8217;s a certain built-in quality here; you can&#8217;t approach something like bronyism without instinctively passing it through your &#8220;is this weird/creepy/etc.?&#8221; filter. It&#8217;s no surprise that for a lot of people it doesn&#8217;t pass that filter.</p>
<p>Also, though, I think a lot of the controversy is manufactured. Most people will see bronies and roll their eyes and forget about it a few minutes later. Hysterical media outlets are not the only ones to blame here &#8211; bronies always seem to be proactively on the defense. As someone with &#8220;weird&#8221; preferences and tendencies and so on myself I understand the impulse for being proactively defensive, but I realized eventually that it does more harm than good.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Maynard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Maynard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 19:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The ironing is delicious&quot; </description>
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		<title>By: HahTse</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/02/bronycon.html#comment-1464508</link>
		<dc:creator>HahTse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Try &quot;Friendship is Witchcraft&quot;, then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Try &#8220;Friendship is Witchcraft&#8221;, then.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Ochs</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/02/bronycon.html#comment-1464381</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Ochs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 14:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s the result of &quot;a show that combines good feelings, an intelligent script, good old fashioned nostalgia and a conspiratory nod to their adult viewers&quot;, as you so aptly put it. As I&#039;ve told my skeptical friends, quality is quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s the result of &#8220;a show that combines good feelings, an intelligent script, good old fashioned nostalgia and a conspiratory nod to their adult viewers&#8221;, as you so aptly put it. As I&#8217;ve told my skeptical friends, quality is quality.</p>
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		<title>By: phogan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/02/bronycon.html#comment-1464361</link>
		<dc:creator>phogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I didn&#039;t realize you were quoting the article, thought you were presenting it as an example.

I&#039;m a somewhat reluctant brony, and I think most of the media coverage has been pretty generous so far. The attitude of most of the articles I see in most mainstream publications seems to be &quot;caution,&quot; and I can live with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I didn&#8217;t realize you were quoting the article, thought you were presenting it as an example.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a somewhat reluctant brony, and I think most of the media coverage has been pretty generous so far. The attitude of most of the articles I see in most mainstream publications seems to be &#8220;caution,&#8221; and I can live with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Beschizza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Beschizza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bronies say they&#039;re a misunderstood lot who&#039;ve gotten a bad rap from the media.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bronies say they&#8217;re a misunderstood lot who&#8217;ve gotten a bad rap from the media.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ashen Victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashen Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bronyism is, in my opinion, the result of a jagged adulthood that misses the old 80´s cartoonscape when things were not so complicated but  do not want the cheesy PSAs or the flat silly scripts.
Give them a show that combines good feelings, an intelligent script, good old fashioned nostalgia and a conspiratory nod to their adult viewers and there you got am instant adult fanbase. 
In which other young audience show would anybody find references to The Big Lebowski?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bronyism is, in my opinion, the result of a jagged adulthood that misses the old 80´s cartoonscape when things were not so complicated but  do not want the cheesy PSAs or the flat silly scripts.<br />
Give them a show that combines good feelings, an intelligent script, good old fashioned nostalgia and a conspiratory nod to their adult viewers and there you got am instant adult fanbase.<br />
In which other young audience show would anybody find references to The Big Lebowski?!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely one of the &quot;weird as hell but not dangerous&quot; regions of fandom.

A little too saccarine for this gay guy, thankyouverymuch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely one of the &#8220;weird as hell but not dangerous&#8221; regions of fandom.</p>
<p>A little too saccarine for this gay guy, thankyouverymuch.</p>
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		<title>By: phogan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/02/bronycon.html#comment-1464340</link>
		<dc:creator>phogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 12:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s the bad rap? Seems like a straightforward article to me. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s the bad rap? Seems like a straightforward article to me. </p>
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		<title>By: iheijoushin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/02/bronycon.html#comment-1464338</link>
		<dc:creator>iheijoushin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 12:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am thoroughly confused by Bronyism. On the one hand, I am wondering what I am missing - but on the other I am seriously creeped out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am thoroughly confused by Bronyism. On the one hand, I am wondering what I am missing &#8211; but on the other I am seriously creeped out.</p>
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