Comments on: Where the colors of fireworks come from http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 23 May 2013 08:51:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: The Works http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1467797 The Works Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1467797 Thanks for reposting, Boing Boing! Thanks for reposting, Boing Boing!

]]> By: Douglas Stuart http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1467690 Douglas Stuart Thu, 05 Jul 2012 14:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1467690  I read that Disney use compressed air to launch their rounds. And a lower smoke (and thus more expensive) explosive formula.  I read that Disney use compressed air to launch their rounds. And a lower smoke (and thus more expensive) explosive formula.

]]> By: Douglas Stuart http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1467692 Douglas Stuart Thu, 05 Jul 2012 14:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1467692  KMnO4 + glycerol and you can have your own mini-volcano at home =)  KMnO4 + glycerol and you can have your own mini-volcano at home =)

]]> By: Douglas Stuart http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1467681 Douglas Stuart Thu, 05 Jul 2012 14:10:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1467681  There is no accepted IUPAC definition for "heavy metal," and  here is a link to the Dufus article. http://iupac.org/publications/pac/74/5/0793/ The density of barium is <5 g/cm3, and I would think that by any of the many other "definitions" of heavy metal, barium would be considered a heavy metal.  There is no accepted IUPAC definition for “heavy metal,” and  here is a link to the Dufus article.

http://iupac.org/publications/pac/74/5/0793/

The density of barium is <5 g/cm3, and I would think that by any of the many other "definitions" of heavy metal, barium would be considered a heavy metal.

]]> By: Douglas Stuart http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1467670 Douglas Stuart Thu, 05 Jul 2012 13:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1467670  They sell color flame candles at the grocery store.  They sell color flame candles at the grocery store.

]]> By: dutchs http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1466891 dutchs Wed, 04 Jul 2012 15:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1466891  I'd worry a lot more about combustion residues from the propellant and the casing. And the second hand smoke from the spectators.  I’d worry a lot more about combustion residues from the propellant and the casing. And the second hand smoke from the spectators.

]]> By: dutchs http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1466883 dutchs Wed, 04 Jul 2012 15:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1466883 Good post. I'd add that the elements known in ancient times all have "weird" symbols because the symbols are based on Latin (Fe for Ferrum, iron, etc.) The metals mentioned in the Bible are Au, Ag, Cu, Fe, Pb and Sn. Hg was also known in ancient times. Most of these either occur in unalloyed form in nature (Au) or were easily smelted (Pb). The big mystery is tin. Others were known as compounds like Na (Natrium = lye), K, Sb. (You can count Sb as a Biblical metal if you read the Bible in Spanish - Jezebel painted her eyes with "antimonio") You covered some of this. Nickel gets its name from kupfernickel or "Old Nick's (devil's) copper because nickel sulfides look like ore but didn't smelt easily. Cobalt comes from "kobold," or gremlin, for similar reasons. Tungsten has the symbol W from its alternate name wolfram, which has a complicated and not entirely clear etymology. Good post. I’d add that the elements known in ancient times all have “weird” symbols because the symbols are based on Latin (Fe for Ferrum, iron, etc.) The metals mentioned in the Bible are Au, Ag, Cu, Fe, Pb and Sn. Hg was also known in ancient times. Most of these either occur in unalloyed form in nature (Au) or were easily smelted (Pb). The big mystery is tin. Others were known as compounds like Na (Natrium = lye), K, Sb. (You can count Sb as a Biblical metal if you read the Bible in Spanish – Jezebel painted her eyes with “antimonio”) You covered some of this. Nickel gets its name from kupfernickel or “Old Nick’s (devil’s) copper because nickel sulfides look like ore but didn’t smelt easily. Cobalt comes from “kobold,” or gremlin, for similar reasons. Tungsten has the symbol W from its alternate name wolfram, which has a complicated and not entirely clear etymology.

]]> By: dutchs http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1466869 dutchs Wed, 04 Jul 2012 15:14:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1466869  Same color as in sodium vapor lights. For the same reason.  Same color as in sodium vapor lights. For the same reason.

]]> By: cellocgw http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1466860 cellocgw Wed, 04 Jul 2012 15:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1466860 No, I think you have to turn the amps up to eleven to qualify as heavy metal No, I think you have to turn the amps up to eleven to qualify as heavy metal

]]> By: Michael D. Williams http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1466693 Michael D. Williams Wed, 04 Jul 2012 07:52:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1466693 A little clarification here, the term "heavy metals" is just that, a term.  Heavy metals refer to many of the chemical elements in the middle part of the periodic table.  The heavy is not a reference to density per say to begin with.  Barium and Strontium are elements in the "Calcium" family (column) and not in that middle area of the table.  Also known as transition elements.  Barium is not toxic in the sense or way that Chromium VI or Lead ions are, causing chronic disease like gradual brain damage or cancer.  Barium posioning is acute like cyanide.  It makes you ill by interfering with or competing with Potasium and Calcium utilization or metabolism in the body.  The technical reason for the arrangement of elements on the periodic table or chart is the arrangement of electrons in each type of element.  It is too complex to discuss here but briefly, and you can research it further if you are interested.  Atoms have s, p, d, and f orbitals.  Electrons fill these in a complex order, in varius and different shapes.  The "Sodium" and "Calcium" families have s bonding or valence orbitals, the nonemetals, Boron thru Fluorine to Neon have p bonding orbitals, the Transition elements have d orbitals, and the strange two row below the rest of the table are the "Rare Earth" or Lanthanide elements and Actinide elements, these have the strange f orbitals as their outer electrons.  The Actinides are all redioactive!  You also must remember that much of the naming of the elements is based on history.  The elements that are less reactive may be found in or seen in nature easily in their native or pure form uncombined with other elements.  These are the metals known to bronze and earlier aged man and have non "-ium" or "-um" ending names:  Iron, Copper, Gold, Silver, Lead, Zinc, Cobalt, Nickle, etc. (and of course the non-metal sulfer).  Several of the first "scientifically" discovered elements also have common or "English" names, Carbon, Oxygen, Chlorine, Iodine, Neon, etc.  Eventually it was decided to name elements with an "-ium" ending.  Note the chemical symbol for many elements is taken from their Latin names and not the "English" or official name used for the element; examples of this are Iron=Fe (Ferrum), Postasium=K (Kalium), Gold=Au (Aurum), Silver=Ag (Argentum). Yes, Sodium, Calcium, Magnesium, and Iron are all found in and neccessary for animal (and human) life.  Strontium and Barium are not.  Aluminum and Copper may be or are needed in tiny trace amounts only as dietary "minerals".  Radioactive Strontium 90 and Iodine 131 are dangerous and "poisonous" as produced by nuclear reactors or atomic bombs.  Strontium is deposited in bone like Calcium and Magnesium.  Iodine collects in and is used by the thyroid gland.  A little clarification here, the term “heavy metals” is just that, a term.  Heavy metals refer to many of the chemical elements in the middle part of the periodic table.  The heavy is not a reference to density per say to begin with.  Barium and Strontium are elements in the “Calcium” family (column) and not in that middle area of the table.  Also known as transition elements.  Barium is not toxic in the sense or way that Chromium VI or Lead ions are, causing chronic disease like gradual brain damage or cancer.  Barium posioning is acute like cyanide.  It makes you ill by interfering with or competing with Potasium and Calcium utilization or metabolism in the body.  The technical reason for the arrangement of elements on the periodic table or chart is the arrangement of electrons in each type of element.  It is too complex to discuss here but briefly, and you can research it further if you are interested.  Atoms have s, p, d, and f orbitals.  Electrons fill these in a complex order, in varius and different shapes.  The “Sodium” and “Calcium” families have s bonding or valence orbitals, the nonemetals, Boron thru Fluorine to Neon have p bonding orbitals, the Transition elements have d orbitals, and the strange two row below the rest of the table are the “Rare Earth” or Lanthanide elements and Actinide elements, these have the strange f orbitals as their outer electrons.  The Actinides are all redioactive!  You also must remember that much of the naming of the elements is based on history.  The elements that are less reactive may be found in or seen in nature easily in their native or pure form uncombined with other elements.  These are the metals known to bronze and earlier aged man and have non “-ium” or “-um” ending names:  Iron, Copper, Gold, Silver, Lead, Zinc, Cobalt, Nickle, etc. (and of course the non-metal sulfer).  Several of the first “scientifically” discovered elements also have common or “English” names, Carbon, Oxygen, Chlorine, Iodine, Neon, etc.  Eventually it was decided to name elements with an “-ium” ending.  Note the chemical symbol for many elements is taken from their Latin names and not the “English” or official name used for the element; examples of this are Iron=Fe (Ferrum), Postasium=K (Kalium), Gold=Au (Aurum), Silver=Ag (Argentum).

Yes, Sodium, Calcium, Magnesium, and Iron are all found in and neccessary for animal (and human) life.  Strontium and Barium are not.  Aluminum and Copper may be or are needed in tiny trace amounts only as dietary “minerals”.  Radioactive Strontium 90 and Iodine 131 are dangerous and “poisonous” as produced by nuclear reactors or atomic bombs.  Strontium is deposited in bone like Calcium and Magnesium.  Iodine collects in and is used by the thyroid gland. 

]]> By: Oliver Schmieding http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1466650 Oliver Schmieding Wed, 04 Jul 2012 06:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1466650 quoting it's etymology from wikipedia does NOT make barium a heavy metal - a density of  more than 5  g/cm³ would. quoting it’s etymology from wikipedia does NOT make barium a heavy metal – a density of  more than 5  g/cm³ would.

]]> By: c http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1466645 c Wed, 04 Jul 2012 06:18:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1466645  Pretty damn cool I'd say. Now go home and cry yourself to sleep.  Pretty damn cool I’d say. Now go home and cry yourself to sleep.

]]> By: Bozanfè Bon Oungan http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1466630 Bozanfè Bon Oungan Wed, 04 Jul 2012 05:54:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1466630 Red violet = potassium permanginate Red violet = potassium permanginate

]]> By: jazzhunt http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1466340 jazzhunt Wed, 04 Jul 2012 01:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1466340 Years ago I knew someone who tried to develop coloured flames in candles by impregnating wicks. She quit once she realised most of what she was using produced noxious fumes, which wasn't quite the atmosphere she was trying to create. She would love this list. Years ago I knew someone who tried to develop coloured flames in candles by impregnating wicks. She quit once she realised most of what she was using produced noxious fumes, which wasn’t quite the atmosphere she was trying to create. She would love this list.

]]> By: Douglas Stuart http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1466231 Douglas Stuart Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1466231 From wikipedia:  Barium's name originates from the alchemical derivative "baryta", which itself comes from Greek βαρύς (barys), meaning "heavy." Barium is not only a heavy metal, it is indeed toxic in water soluble forms. Classic example I use for teaching solubility rules. From wikipedia:  Barium’s name originates from the alchemical derivative “baryta”, which itself comes from Greek βαρύς (barys), meaning “heavy.”

Barium is not only a heavy metal, it is indeed toxic in water soluble forms. Classic example I use for teaching solubility rules.

]]> By: Mike The Bard http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1466228 Mike The Bard Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1466228 Ah, nothing like the rockets' strontium carbonate glare. Ah, nothing like the rockets’ strontium carbonate glare.

]]> By: zish http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1465978 zish Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1465978 When I think of The Works, my mind tends toward the toilet cleaner with the same name, and some aluminum foil. Put them both in a 2 liter soda bottle, and get some distance away. Lots of fun! There are plenty of Youtube videos of the same, if one were wondering about the wonder of said wonderment. When I think of The Works, my mind tends toward the toilet cleaner with the same name, and some aluminum foil. Put them both in a 2 liter soda bottle, and get some distance away. Lots of fun! There are plenty of Youtube videos of the same, if one were wondering about the wonder of said wonderment.

]]> By: Jonathan Jaekle http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1465975 Jonathan Jaekle Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:36:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1465975  None of the metals in the chart are heavy metals.  Calcium, magnesium, sodium, and iron are all natural parts of our body chemistry.  None of the metals in the chart are heavy metals.  Calcium, magnesium, sodium, and iron are all natural parts of our body chemistry.

]]> By: timquinn http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1465968 timquinn Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:31:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1465968 name of my next album; "Glowing Iron" name of my next album; “Glowing Iron”

]]> By: billstewart http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1465878 billstewart Tue, 03 Jul 2012 18:54:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1465878 When we made fireworks when I was a kid, the answer to where red came from was "road flares".  (I knew it was some kind of strontium compound, but probably couldn't have told you which one.) When we made fireworks when I was a kid, the answer to where red came from was “road flares”.  (I knew it was some kind of strontium compound, but probably couldn’t have told you which one.)

]]> By: fyodordos http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1465866 fyodordos Tue, 03 Jul 2012 18:47:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1465866 Polluting your air with heavy metals in the name of entertainment ................. how cool is that? Polluting your air with heavy metals in the name of entertainment …………….. how cool is that?

]]> By: bcsizemo http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1465849 bcsizemo Tue, 03 Jul 2012 18:38:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1465849 Just remember kids, never stare directly at burning magnesium... (Also when brazing aluminum, make sure it really is an aluminum part and not magnesium....) Just remember kids, never stare directly at burning magnesium…

(Also when brazing aluminum, make sure it really is an aluminum part and not magnesium….)

]]> By: archanoid http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/where-the-colors-of-fireworks.html#comment-1465850 archanoid Tue, 03 Jul 2012 18:38:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=168914#comment-1465850 Salt? Yellow comes from salt? waddayaknow... Salt? Yellow comes from salt? waddayaknow…

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