Comments on: 3D printed rocket-ship espresso cup http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:03:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Craig Kaplan http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1468927 Craig Kaplan Fri, 06 Jul 2012 15:18:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1468927 Ah, the place where style meets ergonomics -- good question!  With espresso, I generally just hold onto the cup directly, even if there's a handle, so it's a non-issue.  I think I tried and found that you could hold onto it by the fin, but I think the balance would be a little unusual.  I guess I'll try again next time I fill that cup... Ah, the place where style meets ergonomics — good question!  With espresso, I generally just hold onto the cup directly, even if there’s a handle, so it’s a non-issue.  I think I tried and found that you could hold onto it by the fin, but I think the balance would be a little unusual.  I guess I’ll try again next time I fill that cup…

]]> By: Andrew Erdle http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1468243 Andrew Erdle Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1468243 Contact us about future products: gooderdle.com  Contact us about future products: gooderdle.com 

]]> By: Cowicide http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1468207 Cowicide Thu, 05 Jul 2012 19:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1468207 Are you able to hold it comfortably by the wings when the mug is hot? Are you able to hold it comfortably by the wings when the mug is hot?

]]> By: Duann Scott http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1467833 Duann Scott Thu, 05 Jul 2012 16:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1467833  Duann Here from Shapeways, It is 3D Printed from ceramic powder, fired in a kiln, glazed and fired again.  Duann Here from Shapeways,
It is 3D Printed from ceramic powder, fired in a kiln, glazed and fired again.

]]> By: Thorzdad http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1467779 Thorzdad Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1467779  Craig, can you clear up something for me? Reading the description of the process, it appears that the cup is made from a type of material that is not fired. It's dried. Correct? Is the glaze fired? I'm wondering if the cracking you're experiencing is a result of the body not undergoing the tempering and hardening that firing imparts to traditional ceramics?  Craig, can you clear up something for me? Reading the description of the process, it appears that the cup is made from a type of material that is not fired. It’s dried. Correct? Is the glaze fired?

I’m wondering if the cracking you’re experiencing is a result of the body not undergoing the tempering and hardening that firing imparts to traditional ceramics?

]]> By: Craig Kaplan http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1467778 Craig Kaplan Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1467778 That could be fun.  I would enjoy working with a manufacturer to see this object mass produced.    But there's no way I'm going to patent it.  That's too much time and effort, and even if the cup is wildly successful it's doubtful I'd recoup the costs.  If that means that some manufacturer steals the design, I suppose my best recourse is simply to be flattered (and maybe buy a few!). I'm not opposed to partnering with someone who wants to work out the details of getting the cup manufactured, if they felt there was a business case for it.  I suppose the sexy approach would be to fund the up-front manufacturing costs ourselves via a kickstarter project (see Daneel's comment below for an example).  Mass production would offer one other very important benefit over Shapeways -- the ability to glaze the fins in bright red! That could be fun.  I would enjoy working with a manufacturer to see this object mass produced.    But there’s no way I’m going to patent it.  That’s too much time and effort, and even if the cup is wildly successful it’s doubtful I’d recoup the costs.  If that means that some manufacturer steals the design, I suppose my best recourse is simply to be flattered (and maybe buy a few!).

I’m not opposed to partnering with someone who wants to work out the details of getting the cup manufactured, if they felt there was a business case for it.  I suppose the sexy approach would be to fund the up-front manufacturing costs ourselves via a kickstarter project (see Daneel’s comment below for an example).  Mass production would offer one other very important benefit over Shapeways — the ability to glaze the fins in bright red!

]]> By: Craig Kaplan http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1467769 Craig Kaplan Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1467769 Yeah, I made this particular model knowing that I would order one for myself.  You can see in my "shop" that most of the models I have on offer have never been printed (though I certainly know Shapeways users who have huge collections of printed objects; <a href="http://www.shapeways.com/shops/henryseg" rel="nofollow">henryseg</a> has been featured on boingboing before, for example). You're right that the cost of ceramic 3D printing will eventually come down.  But I doubt it will ever match straightforward casting for any reasonable quantities. Yeah, I made this particular model knowing that I would order one for myself.  You can see in my “shop” that most of the models I have on offer have never been printed (though I certainly know Shapeways users who have huge collections of printed objects; henryseg has been featured on boingboing before, for example).

You’re right that the cost of ceramic 3D printing will eventually come down.  But I doubt it will ever match straightforward casting for any reasonable quantities.

]]> By: Craig Kaplan http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1467763 Craig Kaplan Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1467763 Nice design!  I had sketched a few "floating" designs like that one.  But I think that even if I modelled it, it wouldn't print well at Shapeways.  I don't understand their ceramic printing process in every detail, but I suspect it would collapse before you could bake it. Nice design!  I had sketched a few “floating” designs like that one.  But I think that even if I modelled it, it wouldn’t print well at Shapeways.  I don’t understand their ceramic printing process in every detail, but I suspect it would collapse before you could bake it.

]]> By: Craig Kaplan http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1467761 Craig Kaplan Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1467761 Hey, it's my cup, and I also think it's too expensive.  In fact, it cost me quite a bit more than $40 when you factor in shipping and the idiotic extra fees UPS charges to bring things into Canada.  My goal was never to create a new market for rocket espresso cups (as awesome as that would be) -- I've already got a more-than-full-time job, thanks.  It was really just a fun design experiment, one that could (at least in theory) be shared with the world. Shapeways is great (nay, <em>spectacular</em>) for prototyping, not for mass production.  While I'd love to corner the espresso cup market with innovative new designs, there really is no "they" to "move forward with production" -- I'm just a guy.  I guess I could try calling a couple of manufacturers.  Anyway, glad you like the design. Hey, it’s my cup, and I also think it’s too expensive.  In fact, it cost me quite a bit more than $40 when you factor in shipping and the idiotic extra fees UPS charges to bring things into Canada.  My goal was never to create a new market for rocket espresso cups (as awesome as that would be) — I’ve already got a more-than-full-time job, thanks.  It was really just a fun design experiment, one that could (at least in theory) be shared with the world.

Shapeways is great (nay, spectacular) for prototyping, not for mass production.  While I’d love to corner the espresso cup market with innovative new designs, there really is no “they” to “move forward with production” — I’m just a guy.  I guess I could try calling a couple of manufacturers.  Anyway, glad you like the design.

]]> By: Ministry http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1467599 Ministry Thu, 05 Jul 2012 11:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1467599  Yes; as a tea-drinking egg-eater who can't stand coffee, I saw this as an egg cup too ;)  Yes; as a tea-drinking egg-eater who can’t stand coffee, I saw this as an egg cup too ;)

]]> By: Palomino http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1467523 Palomino Thu, 05 Jul 2012 07:05:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1467523 It looks a mini rocket used to  launch  eggs to the moon.  It looks a mini rocket used to  launch  eggs to the moon. 

]]> By: penguinchris http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1467463 penguinchris Thu, 05 Jul 2012 03:47:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1467463 Yeah, but the price for 3D printing is continuously coming down, and eventually we'll all be able to design our own ceramic stuff and print it out at a reasonable price. Most things on Shapeways aren't even purchased by their own designers (though this guy obviously did get at least one printed). Yeah, but the price for 3D printing is continuously coming down, and eventually we’ll all be able to design our own ceramic stuff and print it out at a reasonable price. Most things on Shapeways aren’t even purchased by their own designers (though this guy obviously did get at least one printed).

]]> By: Warren_Terra http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1467395 Warren_Terra Thu, 05 Jul 2012 01:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1467395 Indeed. I visited the link in the post thinking it might be nice to buy a couple, and didn't find the place where it was on sale. Prompted by an above comment I found the link at the site (it doesn't say it's a link to buy it), but at $40 they might as well not bother - too much by at least 100% for my taste, more like 200%. I hope they move forward with production in some fashion that makes it available to the casual purchaser, and I don't care whether the consumer version is 3D-printed. (and, of course, with proper, durable glazing) Indeed. I visited the link in the post thinking it might be nice to buy a couple, and didn’t find the place where it was on sale. Prompted by an above comment I found the link at the site (it doesn’t say it’s a link to buy it), but at $40 they might as well not bother – too much by at least 100% for my taste, more like 200%. I hope they move forward with production in some fashion that makes it available to the casual purchaser, and I don’t care whether the consumer version is 3D-printed.

(and, of course, with proper, durable glazing)

]]> By: sockdoll http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1467355 sockdoll Thu, 05 Jul 2012 00:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1467355 That's really cute and fun. That’s really cute and fun.

]]> By: toyg http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1467292 toyg Wed, 04 Jul 2012 22:10:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1467292 Craig,get some Italian ceramic producers on the phone NOW please :) I can probably get you some numbers from around Modena if you need them. Just patent the damn design first. I know I'd buy it! Craig,get some Italian ceramic producers on the phone NOW please :) I can probably get you some numbers from around Modena if you need them. Just patent the damn design first. I know I’d buy it!

]]> By: Thorzdad http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1467221 Thorzdad Wed, 04 Jul 2012 21:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1467221 Definitely cool looking little cups. But, I have to wonder if they couldn't be produced at lower cost using regular ceramic techniques? Definitely cool looking little cups. But, I have to wonder if they couldn’t be produced at lower cost using regular ceramic techniques?

]]> By: Daneel http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1467105 Daneel Wed, 04 Jul 2012 19:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1467105 Forty bucks?? That's the second cup I've seen recently that I'd like to buy, but at that price, I think I'll pass... The other one was this one: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tiggs/the-floating-mug Forty bucks?? That’s the second cup I’ve seen recently that I’d like to buy, but at that price, I think I’ll pass…

The other one was this one:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tiggs/the-floating-mug

]]> By: Craig Kaplan http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1467058 Craig Kaplan Wed, 04 Jul 2012 18:27:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1467058 OK, I gather you found the model on Shapeways.  You can order it there, but you might want to hold off for a couple of days -- since I took the photos, the glaze has developed cracks.  Shapeways is going to look into it. Glad you like it! OK, I gather you found the model on Shapeways.  You can order it there, but you might want to hold off for a couple of days — since I took the photos, the glaze has developed cracks.  Shapeways is going to look into it.

Glad you like it!

]]> By: Spinkter http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1467034 Spinkter Wed, 04 Jul 2012 18:05:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1467034 Very, very cool.  Can I purchase 2 or 4 of these things so I don't have to go out and buy a 3d printer? EDIT: whoops, should have browsed instead of typed. Very, very cool.  Can I purchase 2 or 4 of these things so I don’t have to go out and buy a 3d printer? EDIT: whoops, should have browsed instead of typed.

]]> By: Craig Kaplan http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1467025 Craig Kaplan Wed, 04 Jul 2012 18:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1467025 Yeah, I definitely thought about making a lid, and of course a saucer with a built-in gantry.  But this was really just a first experiment, and anyway, the ceramic printing process is still expensive enough that I needed to keep it simple.  You can see that I also created a lego-inspired cup-and-saucer http://www.shapeways.com/model/576946/ , but that's expensive enough that I'm unlikely to order it any time soon. Yeah, I definitely thought about making a lid, and of course a saucer with a built-in gantry.  But this was really just a first experiment, and anyway, the ceramic printing process is still expensive enough that I needed to keep it simple.  You can see that I also created a lego-inspired cup-and-saucer http://www.shapeways.com/model/576946/ , but that’s expensive enough that I’m unlikely to order it any time soon.

]]> By: CognitiveDissident http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/3d-printed-rocket-ship-espress.html#comment-1467002 CognitiveDissident Wed, 04 Jul 2012 17:36:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=169164#comment-1467002 Clever, maybe they could add an upper berth (lid) to keep your beverage warm and to complete the effect. Clever, maybe they could add an upper berth (lid) to keep your beverage warm and to complete the effect.

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