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TSA agent pokes fingers in ashes of traveler's dead grandfather, spills them on floor, cackles

Xeni Jardin at 11:39 am Thu, Jul 5, 2012

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Indianapolis resident John Gross was going through TSA security in the Orlando, Florida airport, carrying the cremated ashes of his Sicilian grandfather "in a tightly sealed jar marked 'Human Remains." TSA rules say that this sort of material in carry-on baggage must be labeled, and go through the X-ray machine, but that human remains are to be opened under “no circumstances.” Guess what happened? According to Gross, an idiot TSA agent ignored the agency's own rules, and caused the ashes to be spilled on the terminal floor.

"They opened up my bag, and I told them, 'Please, be careful. These are my grandpa's ashes,'" Gross told RTV6's Norman Cox. "She picked up the jar. She opened it up. "I was told later on that she had no right to even open it, that they could have used other devices, like an X-ray machine. So she opened it up. She used her finger and was sifting through it. And then she accidentally spilled it."

Gross says about a quarter to a third of the contents spilled on the floor, leaving him frantically trying to gather up as much as he could while anxious passengers waited behind him.

"She didn't apologize. She started laughing. I was on my hands and knees picking up bone fragments. I couldn't pick up all, everything that was lost. I mean, there was a long line behind me."

Gross says he wants “an apology from the lady who opened the jar and laughed at me."

More from the local ABC News affiliate in Indianapolis.

There's video here. More at the Orlando Sentinel.

Update: He got an apology, sort of. Conveniently, the TSA has lost surveillance video of the incident.

Gross said a high-ranking TSA official contacted him to empathize because of what transpired at the airport. He said the official claims that TSA cannot locate video of his exchange with the security worker. “I got the apology, but I got it from the wrong person,” Gross said.

Cory blogged about the incident when news first broke.

Boing Boing editor/partner and tech culture journalist Xeni Jardin hosts and produces Boing Boing's in-flight TV channel on Virgin America airlines (#10 on the dial), and writes about living with breast cancer. Diagnosed in 2011. @xeni on Twitter. email: xeni@boingboing.net.

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  • planettom

    Boing Boing did this one last week:
    http://boingboing.net/2012/06/26/tsa-dumps-grandpas-cremains.html

    • http://www.xeni.net/ Xeni Jardin

      Thanks! Updated post.

  • http://twitter.com/beep54orama B E Pratt

    We really need to get rid of the Toilet Security Administration.
    …..
    What? Whuddumean South Park??…Wha..???

  • silkox

    It’s no excuse, but nervous laughter could be a normal response to having done something this insensitive and stupid.

    • lafave

       what about mocking laughter?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/65CSAR3QATRNKJW4NYNB2BESZE JohnQPublic

      This really doesn’t apply to grown adults who are in a professional environment where interacting with people is at the heart of their public service duties.

      • http://twitter.com/writebastard Ian Wood

        …a professional environment where interacting with people is at the heart of their public service duties.

        No, she works at the TSA.

        But I do know what silkox is on about. Do something appalling, neurotic laughter kicks in, then you know you’re behaving even more inappropriately, which makes you laugh even harder, and finally the only thing you can do is strip search the passenger and add them to the No Fly List.

    • http://profiles.google.com/westcarleton Ray Perkins

       This seems to be an example of nervous laughter: http://www.wimp.com/iceclimber/
      Or maybe climbers just don’t give a shit.

  • Gary61

    I feel bad for Mr. Gross, and indignant about the idiotic ‘failure to follow guidelines’ actions of the TSA agent in question – but I’m very grateful she wasn’t a necrophiliac.

  • http://twitter.com/jameshightower James Hightower

    Update: TSA conveniently lose the video of the incident.

    “Gross said a high-ranking TSA official contacted him to empathize because of what transpired at the airport. He said the official claims that TSA cannot locate video of his exchange with the security worker.”and:”TSA maintains its position that the circumstances, as explained by the passenger, are inconsistent with what we believe transpired.”
    this from http://www.pal-item.com/article/20120630/NEWS01/306300012/Ex-Richmond-man-Grandpa-s-ashes-spilled-at-airport

    • http://twitter.com/Achirality Achirality

      This is simply disgusting. >:(

    • http://www.xeni.net/ Xeni Jardin

      thanks, updating.

    • http://www.nathanhornby.com/ Nathan Hornby

      Well that’s good news at least. If the TSA can’t be punished for dumping human ashes on the floor, surely they can at least be penalised for losing security footage, being airport security and all.

    • benher

      They just happened to lose the one video where they misbehave? Too bad, because I think that’s the one where 5 guys slip by everyone in the background twiddling their mustaches and grinning.

      • http://profiles.google.com/westcarleton Ray Perkins

         What, are they a shoe-box full of VHS tapes, or something?

  • http://profiles.google.com/stephen.schenck Stephen Schenck

    “human remains are to be opened under “no circumstances.””

    I really hope that’s not true. Any sort of blanket exemption just opens the door for abuse by ne’er-do-wells.

    • http://twitter.com/fossilfuels Funk Daddy

      LoLlLerS, I wondered how long it would be before one arrived to warn of terrorist plots involving jars labelled human remains that actually hold cocaine that actually hold explosives when the drug mule is tricked by Al Kay-duh and the gang.

      Elapsed time was 3hrs 56 minutes.

      • BookGuy

         Oh, yeah?  Who will be laughing when somebody smuggles the ASHES OF A TERRORIST on board, huh?  Mark Wahlberg can’t be on every flight to protect us!

        • http://twitter.com/fossilfuels Funk Daddy

          Steward – “Captain, an ephemeral form appeared to me in the aisle and demanded control of the craft. Should I tell the Air Marshall?”

          Captain – “No.”

          Co-pilot – “Fucking ghosts”

          Steward – “IKR!”

        • retchdog

          i’ve had it with these motherfucking cremains on this motherfucking plane!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/6UYUFIAZWMPC4ANC3PDM4LESPI Sara

      That’s what the x-ray is for.

      • http://profiles.google.com/stephen.schenck Stephen Schenck

        And why “no circumstances” is a stupid thing to say – of COURSE they’ll open it when there’s an obvious reason to, like that.

        • http://twitter.com/fossilfuels Funk Daddy

          So if it’s x-rayed and is perceived as a result as something other than claimed, they open it?, a sealed container of powdered substance?

          That is not an obvious reason, that is an obvious fail. These can often be located behind the terms “Of course, naturally and everybody knows”

    • http://www.nathanhornby.com/ Nathan Hornby

      You do realise that kind of flawed reasoning is why we have porno scanners and have to remove our shoes to get on planes?

  • absimiliard

    I’m w. Brooklyn Imbecile, who’s comment was removed.

    -abs believes in the power of the human flesh search

  • http://twitter.com/bradgall Brad Gall

    http://xkcd.com/651/
    The only people who can rein in the TSA are the airlines. Solution get the TSA to ban laptops in the cabin. The blow back from business travel will get the airlines to whack them upside the head. Maybe we could even ride that wave to real reform. 

    What, a man can dream can’t he.

  • Ipo

     Gross. 

    • http://openid.anonymity.com/djl4vx Anonymous

      Gross Negligence

  • silkox

    BTW, I flew from Tel Aviv to Seattle via Newark a few weeks ago. Tel Aviv: kept shoes and belt on through security, no pornoscanner. In Newark, had to remove shoes and belt and go through pornoscanner.

  • zartan74

    Sounds like a great way to smuggle cocaine.  

    • benher

      Explains the laughter and long-winded explanations anyway.

  • panhead20

    “Uncontrolled search and seizure is one of the first and most effective weapons in the arsenal of every arbitrary government. Among deprivations of rights, none is so effective in cowing a population, crushing the spirit of the individual and putting terror in every heart.”
    Justice Robert Jackson, chief U.S. prosecutor at the Nuremberg Trials

    I will not subject myself nor my family to needless radiation exposure nor TSA molestation. My family and I will not be flying until the TSA changes these procedures.

    T – Terrorists
    S – Searching
    A – Americans

    • millie fink

      And let’s not forget Stop and Frisk. (I wonder how to boycott that? Just don’t go to NYC, I guess.)

      • underscorex

         Besides “Don’t be a visible minority”?

    • Bink Binkerson

      Border patrol stops, searches nowhere near borders!   They do it now….

      http://cnsnews.com/news/article/aclu-sues-border-patrol-over-traffic-stops

    • http://twitter.com/cjporkchop cjporkchop

       I want that quote on a t-shirt.

  • Bink Binkerson

    Ash Holes.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ky.platt Ky Platt

    Why does it matter that his grandfather was Sicilian? 

    • malindrome

      Because you should never go against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line!

  • MrHarley

    $8 billion per year and they “cannot locate video” ahh good times!

  • http://www.facebook.com/marko.raos Marko Raos

    Garbage people.

  • traalfaz

    Clearly it is every citizen’s responsibility to video record their experiences at security checkpoints.  Just to help out the TSA, you know.  Just in case they “can’t find” their tapes if something happens.  Come on folks, it’s the least we can do for these folks “guarding our safety.”

    • HahTse

       If I remember correctly, you are not allowed to tape any “security measures” or “sensitive areas”. They would just confiscate your camera and ban you from the airport (or at least they would try).

      • underscorex

        It is, in fact, a felony to record TSA procedures, if I’m not mistaken.  (This might have come up in an interview with Penn Jillette – he wanted to do an episode of Bullshit! about airport security, but the actual production process would have sent them all to jail.)

  • Daizymae

    That woman is no lady! Don’t expect any kind of humane response from her or from any of TSA’s henchmen.

    They lost the video? How convenient!

    If TSA can’t even keep track of their security tapes, how are they going to catch a terrorist?

  • http://www.gyrofrog.com/ Gyrofrog

    Not the first time they couldn’t provide a surveillance tape:
    http://harryshearer.com/news/le_show/player/?id=875&start=23:25
    (Not nearly as serious as this case, though)

  • http://profiles.google.com/livingcropcircle Emmett Brown

    Thank god these people are protecting us from…… wait. what?

  • Peter Ping

    Who wants to bet the TSA lady licked her fingers to see if it was drugs too..

    • underscorex

       Rubbed it on her gums like Superfly.

      • Antinous / Moderator

        Superfly?

  • inness

    My wife flew out of a small airport here in our commonwealth today and sure enough, pornoscanners. I remember the local ‘news teams’ reciting the praises of the ‘new security’ several months ago, seemingly directly from the TSA PR sheets. I was furious, and standing there behind the glass with our three children as she was told to lift her arms and ‘pose’. I apparently looked so angry that several uniformed ‘agents’ huddled together, sneaking glances at me, so I stepped back and huddled with the kids. No action was made, but I’ll bet if I’d been trying to board a plane I would have faced the wrath of ‘You’re not flying out of here today, mister’ which is the only real power the half-pint security guards really wield. As I sit here and read this now I’m infuriated again, having been reminded of the goddamn radiation those things put out; my wife’s family has a history of cancer, so in order to go and visit her family in another part of the U.S. she has to be subjected to an increased risk? What the hell’s happened to this country?

    • http://twitter.com/dhask dhask

      If by “commonwealth” you mean the new Oz scanners, rest assured that here in Australia our intrusive and ineffectual scanners are THz, not X-Ray.  You may have your time wasted, and your privacy invaded, but you are not being ionised.

    • mccrum

       Wait, you guys can’t opt out?  That’s messed up.  We had to fly recently and I wouldn’t let my wife or kid go through them.