ACTA IS BACK: Leaked docs show Canada/European Commission trying to sneak ACTA into Canada & back into Europe


29 Responses to “ACTA IS BACK: Leaked docs show Canada/European Commission trying to sneak ACTA into Canada & back into Europe”

  1. Dave Bartel says:

    It really is disappointing to see our Canadian government showing their true colours as the corporate shills they clearly are. Please Europe, you’ve done this once, you can do it again. Some of us Canadians will stand by you as best we can within this mockery of a representative democracy.

  2. angusm says:

    I think I speak for none of us when I say that I didn’t see that one coming.

  3. simonbarsinister says:

    That’s my new band name: Corporate Lickspittles.

  4. SpaceBeers says:


  5. Lemoutan says:

    Since they’re going to keep on doing this every time they’re defeated by anything vaguely democratic, eventually they’ll just give up and force it through anyway. So what I’m wondering is, why are they bothering to even ‘discuss’ it in secret?

    Why the pretence? Ultimately it’s a technical issue, and technical always, eventually, trumps political. Unfortunately economical can trump both. But when the 99% are outlaws, don’t the 1% become somewhat irrelevant?

  6. t3kna2007 says:

    It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever. Until we kill it dead.

  7. Paul Cooke says:

    that is not dead, which can eternal lie…

    It’s like trying to kill the Hydra… every head you chop off, a fresh one grows back…

    • emacsomancer says:

      Isn’t it *two* heads for every one that’s chopped?…

      • Lemoutan says:

        It’s a nice strategy. One to replace the chopped, another to discourage further chopping.

        Fortunately (or unfortunately for the choppee) it’s an unsustainable strategy against a sufficiently patient persistent chopper.

        But you may need a large supply of patient persistent choppers. Foxes, rabbits. Logistics. Y’know.

  8. “The Canadian government…a more textbook example of corporate lickspittles you will never find.”

    Well put.

    A Fellow Canadian

  9. Lithi says:

    With all these treaties and laws being implemented to monitor us and take our freedoms, er, I mean, protect copyright, what exactly is the hierarchy of all this? How can all these laws and treaties function without overlapping and contradicting each other? Please excuse my ignorance in these matters.

    • Tynam says:

       They don’t.  The laws and treaties all overlap and contradict each other. 

      That’s the point.

      An environment in which the law is a complex mess that incriminates everybody gives all the power to, for example, corporations that have large teams of staff lawyers.  And makes it impossible for individuals to defend themselves effectively.

  10. P.F. Bruns says:

    Clearly, the response is to stop supporting the content cartels as much as possible.  It is not technically possible to completely boycott them due to the conglomerative nature of the music, TV, and film companies, but the more we can support independents and the less we fork out to the MAFIAA, the better.  It may also be good not only to avoid products and services that promote Big Content vendors, but to write to them and explain why.

    No matter what, remember: the big media need us, not the other way around.

  11. Haglarn says:

    Internet is the government’s worst fear ever. ever.

  12. arjenkamphuis says:

    ‘nuke the entire site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure’

  13. tvugly says:

    This is going to keep happening until we make the very contents of these bills illegal. 

  14. Justin F says:

    The people have to win every battle every time to postpone this encroachment. These guys only have to win once,  and they permanently gain ground that never seems to get rolled back, no matter how immoral or inept or impractical.
    That means we can’t win without also doing some other angle. Is there another angle? A bill of digital Rights Of The People that has a path to becoming law?

  15. I think we should start hanging people that keep pushing these kind of laws, time after time after being rejected.

  16. Florian Bösch says:

    Seriously, this is it, we’ve got to stop being re-active and start being pro-active. I.e. instead of trying to repeal the weekly edition of ACTA, we should start proposing a law to forbid all new treaties/laws like ACTA for the forseeable future, call it “IP trade agreement & law moratorium for 20 years” or something.

  17. Adding billions to provincial health care costs.

  18. WHAT THE FUCK?! We got rid of this thing and now it’s back… WOW some people are just amazing, so amazing they can go jump of a tall building (About so tall so you can be sure that you die when you land).. 

    They should freaking fire the ones who dont understand the “Internet” and hire the ones who do, it should be illegal to do shit like this.

  19. Cyran0 says:

    “Church and State may unite to form an insurmountable barrier against the extension of thought, the moral progress of nations, and the felicity of nature; but let it be recollected, that the guarantee for moral and political emancipation is already deposited in the archives of every school and college, and in the mind of every cultivated and enlightened man of all countries.”

    ‘Principles of Nature’ by Elihu Palmer

  20. Jennifer Chesnut says:

    The other piece that is essential to know about CETA is the style of dispute settlement it is structured through. Very regretably, CETA is continuing with the Investor State dispute mechanism from the NAFTA trade contract which allows corporations to sue government if they interfere with their “right to profit”. In 2010, for example, the Canadian government paid out $130 million to AbitibiBowater Inc for their claim to their water and timber rights in Newfoundland after they shut down their businesses there. With the combination of elements of ACTA in CETA enforced by this style of dispute settlement which promotes corporate rights through lawsuits in trade tribunals, CETA could become an even worse threat than ACTA alone. Thank you for your work resisting ACTA.

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