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	<title>Comments on: Self-published automation book is out, at a researched&#160;price</title>
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		<title>By: Tynam</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/09/self-published-automation-book.html#comment-1472608</link>
		<dc:creator>Tynam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t depend on Amazon, is the short answer.  Keep your own collection; backup your own books in easily-convertible formats.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://calibre-ebook.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Calibre&lt;/a&gt; is your friend.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t depend on Amazon, is the short answer.  Keep your own collection; backup your own books in easily-convertible formats.  (<a href="http://calibre-ebook.com/" rel="nofollow">Calibre</a> is your friend.)</p>
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		<title>By: pKp</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/09/self-published-automation-book.html#comment-1472551</link>
		<dc:creator>pKp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 11:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;pass it around&quot; factor is actually easier with ebooks...those without DRM, that is. 

That said, publishers seem to be getting their head slowly out of their collective arses on the subject...Tor, the biggest SF publisher in the world, has stopped DRM&#039;ing its new releases, including John Scalzi&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Redshirt&lt;/i&gt;, Charles Stross&#039;s &lt;i&gt;The Apocalypse Codex&lt;/i&gt;, and Stross&#039;s and Doctorow&#039;s future collaboration &lt;i&gt;The Rapture of the Nerds&lt;/i&gt; (Out soon ! Can&#039;t wait !).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;pass it around&#8221; factor is actually easier with ebooks&#8230;those without DRM, that is. </p>
<p>That said, publishers seem to be getting their head slowly out of their collective arses on the subject&#8230;Tor, the biggest SF publisher in the world, has stopped DRM&#8217;ing its new releases, including John Scalzi&#8217;s <i>Redshirt</i>, Charles Stross&#8217;s <i>The Apocalypse Codex</i>, and Stross&#8217;s and Doctorow&#8217;s future collaboration <i>The Rapture of the Nerds</i> (Out soon ! Can&#8217;t wait !).</p>
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		<title>By: pKp</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/09/self-published-automation-book.html#comment-1472550</link>
		<dc:creator>pKp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 11:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, it&#039;s about security. What happens to your Kindle ebook collection if Amazon folds, or decides that your account is fraudulent ?

Plus...I don&#039;t know. Maybe I&#039;m just a fetishist, but I can&#039;t feel like I really &lt;i&gt;own&lt;/i&gt; a book unless I have a dead-tree codex in my hands. I use ebooks all the time for my job (reading manuscripts for a French SF publisher), and I love how convenient they are, but the few books I have actually bought as ebooks (from memory, Charlie Stross&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Rule 34&lt;/i&gt; and GRR Martin&#039;s &lt;i&gt;A Dance With Dragons&lt;/i&gt;) I don&#039;t fell like I really own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, it&#8217;s about security. What happens to your Kindle ebook collection if Amazon folds, or decides that your account is fraudulent ?</p>
<p>Plus&#8230;I don&#8217;t know. Maybe I&#8217;m just a fetishist, but I can&#8217;t feel like I really <i>own</i> a book unless I have a dead-tree codex in my hands. I use ebooks all the time for my job (reading manuscripts for a French SF publisher), and I love how convenient they are, but the few books I have actually bought as ebooks (from memory, Charlie Stross&#8217;s <i>Rule 34</i> and GRR Martin&#8217;s <i>A Dance With Dragons</i>) I don&#8217;t fell like I really own.</p>
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		<title>By: pKp</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/09/self-published-automation-book.html#comment-1472546</link>
		<dc:creator>pKp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 11:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Complete nonsense. See  http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2010/02/cmap-2-how-books-are-made.html for Charles Stross&#039;s take on why publishers are actually helpful...TL;DR : manuscript != book, author != editor. 
Being able to write a good manuscript is NOT the same thing as being able (or willing) to publish a book. Think typesetting, rereading, marketing, selling, managing returns, etc.

Also, topically enough, Patrick Rothfuss (&lt;i&gt;Kingkiller Chronicles&lt;/i&gt;) has posted a love-letter to his editor today : http://blog.patrickrothfuss.com/2012/07/why-i-love-my-editor/

Now, record labels...that&#039;s a different story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Complete nonsense. See  http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2010/02/cmap-2-how-books-are-made.html for Charles Stross&#8217;s take on why publishers are actually helpful&#8230;TL;DR : manuscript != book, author != editor. <br />
Being able to write a good manuscript is NOT the same thing as being able (or willing) to publish a book. Think typesetting, rereading, marketing, selling, managing returns, etc.</p>
<p>Also, topically enough, Patrick Rothfuss (<i>Kingkiller Chronicles</i>) has posted a love-letter to his editor today : http://blog.patrickrothfuss.com/2012/07/why-i-love-my-editor/</p>
<p>Now, record labels&#8230;that&#8217;s a different story.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonobo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/09/self-published-automation-book.html#comment-1472419</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 05:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t even read books anymore. Audible supplies me with almost all of my literature (and torrents for anything that isn&#039;t readily available). I have even converted ebooks to audio through text to speech if there is no audiobook version. The only real complaints are that the &quot;platinum&quot; membership only gives me two credits per month, and that (rarely) some titles can&#039;t be found in any e-format.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t even read books anymore. Audible supplies me with almost all of my literature (and torrents for anything that isn&#8217;t readily available). I have even converted ebooks to audio through text to speech if there is no audiobook version. The only real complaints are that the &#8220;platinum&#8221; membership only gives me two credits per month, and that (rarely) some titles can&#8217;t be found in any e-format.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schmurr</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/09/self-published-automation-book.html#comment-1472369</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Schmurr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 05:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You just explained why you might read a &quot;regular&quot; book again, after all! Once you have used the book, it is easy to pass it on to someone else who might enjoy it. Or, if you like, you can sell a &quot;regular&quot; book. Then someone else can buy your &quot;regular&quot; book used, for a nice discount.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You just explained why you might read a &#8220;regular&#8221; book again, after all! Once you have used the book, it is easy to pass it on to someone else who might enjoy it. Or, if you like, you can sell a &#8220;regular&#8221; book. Then someone else can buy your &#8220;regular&#8221; book used, for a nice discount.</p>
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		<title>By: Bloughmee</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/09/self-published-automation-book.html#comment-1472245</link>
		<dc:creator>Bloughmee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 03:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That really depends on what is being published. For  some non-fiction/technical stuff a publisher probably doesn&#039;t bring much value to the party, but for works of fiction or anything that involves  marketing and promotion in order to get shelf space in physical stores, a GOOD publisher earns their keep.   So I would say &quot;sometimes when an author can go around them...&quot;  not &quot;ANY time...&quot;  etc. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That really depends on what is being published. For  some non-fiction/technical stuff a publisher probably doesn&#8217;t bring much value to the party, but for works of fiction or anything that involves  marketing and promotion in order to get shelf space in physical stores, a GOOD publisher earns their keep.   So I would say &#8220;sometimes when an author can go around them&#8230;&#8221;  not &#8220;ANY time&#8230;&#8221;  etc. </p>
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		<title>By: kmoser</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/09/self-published-automation-book.html#comment-1472200</link>
		<dc:creator>kmoser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 02:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, a self-published book on automation. Does that mean it published itself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, a self-published book on automation. Does that mean it published itself?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 01:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, I like books. I like them so much I want 3,000 of them in my jacket pocket.

For me, a book has now become an Aesthetic Object. It must be old, beautiful, or unique in some other way for it to sit on my shelf. I&#039;ve got a small collection of commentaries that are not, and probably will never be, available in electronic form. A Kindle edition of Pritchard&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Ancient Near Eastern Texts Relating to the Old Testament?&lt;/i&gt; Highly unlikely. I have every novel Philip K. Dick ever wrote, and they look nice together. &lt;i&gt;The Naked Civil Servant&lt;/i&gt; has no e-book edition. Etc. So those, I keep.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, I like books. I like them so much I want 3,000 of them in my jacket pocket.</p>
<p>For me, a book has now become an Aesthetic Object. It must be old, beautiful, or unique in some other way for it to sit on my shelf. I&#8217;ve got a small collection of commentaries that are not, and probably will never be, available in electronic form. A Kindle edition of Pritchard&#8217;s <i>Ancient Near Eastern Texts Relating to the Old Testament?</i> Highly unlikely. I have every novel Philip K. Dick ever wrote, and they look nice together. <i>The Naked Civil Servant</i> has no e-book edition. Etc. So those, I keep.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/09/self-published-automation-book.html#comment-1472139</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 01:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I got my Kindle, I can&#039;t imagine why I&#039;d read a &quot;regular&quot; book again. Books are expensive, heavy and just sit on the shelf after I&#039;ve read them. I have given away some of my old books and donated some to libraries.


I have bought more books, from a more diverse range of authors since getting the Kindle.

Note to Amazon: since I can&#039;t buy many titles (from Canada) for my Kindle on Amazon, I buy the epub editions from Kobobooks, then convert them to read on the Kindle. So Amazon: the restrictive arrangements with US publishers is costing you money are directing it to your competitor!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I got my Kindle, I can&#8217;t imagine why I&#8217;d read a &#8220;regular&#8221; book again. Books are expensive, heavy and just sit on the shelf after I&#8217;ve read them. I have given away some of my old books and donated some to libraries.</p>
<p>I have bought more books, from a more diverse range of authors since getting the Kindle.</p>
<p>Note to Amazon: since I can&#8217;t buy many titles (from Canada) for my Kindle on Amazon, I buy the epub editions from Kobobooks, then convert them to read on the Kindle. So Amazon: the restrictive arrangements with US publishers is costing you money are directing it to your competitor!</p>
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		<title>By: DMStone</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/09/self-published-automation-book.html#comment-1472113</link>
		<dc:creator>DMStone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 00:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolute nonsense. Publishers large and small are responsible for the huge mass of literature and information readily available. They developed writers, paid for their work, and kept it available for future generations.

Edit: That being said, good on this guy for providing a resource for such a small niche, and doing the market research. It is nice to see someone developing a product without relying on kickstarter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolute nonsense. Publishers large and small are responsible for the huge mass of literature and information readily available. They developed writers, paid for their work, and kept it available for future generations.</p>
<p>Edit: That being said, good on this guy for providing a resource for such a small niche, and doing the market research. It is nice to see someone developing a product without relying on kickstarter.</p>
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		<title>By: WilliamS</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/09/self-published-automation-book.html#comment-1472015</link>
		<dc:creator>WilliamS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2012 23:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like publishers have been the vampires of the artistic world since the printing press was first invented.  Any time an author can go around them both consumers and writers benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like publishers have been the vampires of the artistic world since the printing press was first invented.  Any time an author can go around them both consumers and writers benefit.</p>
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