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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/10/summon-a-car-startup-uber-rema.html#comment-1474313</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take a different approach to obnoxious directions-askers.
&lt;b&gt;Them&lt;/b&gt; - &quot;Say, can you tell me how to get to the freeway to LA from here?&quot;
&lt;b&gt;Me&lt;/b&gt; - &quot;Sure, just drive straight forward and take a right at the next corner.&quot;
&lt;b&gt;Them&lt;/b&gt; - &quot;Right?  I&#039;m pretty sure it&#039;s left.&quot;
&lt;b&gt;Me&lt;/b&gt; - &quot;Oh, my mistake.  You should definitely take a left.&quot;
&lt;b&gt;Me as they drive away&lt;/b&gt; - &quot;Enjoy your trip to Phoenix.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take a different approach to obnoxious directions-askers.<br />
<b>Them</b> &#8211; &#8220;Say, can you tell me how to get to the freeway to LA from here?&#8221;<br />
<b>Me</b> &#8211; &#8220;Sure, just drive straight forward and take a right at the next corner.&#8221;<br />
<b>Them</b> &#8211; &#8220;Right?  I&#8217;m pretty sure it&#8217;s left.&#8221;<br />
<b>Me</b> &#8211; &#8220;Oh, my mistake.  You should definitely take a left.&#8221;<br />
<b>Me as they drive away</b> &#8211; &#8220;Enjoy your trip to Phoenix.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/10/summon-a-car-startup-uber-rema.html#comment-1474068</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve spent a night in Tonopah. If you mean to be in Vegas, Tonopah is most assuredly going to be a letdown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve spent a night in Tonopah. If you mean to be in Vegas, Tonopah is most assuredly going to be a letdown.</p>
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		<title>By: donovan acree</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/10/summon-a-car-startup-uber-rema.html#comment-1473926</link>
		<dc:creator>donovan acree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Well put. I can&#039;t understand why any city needs to be involved in conveyance prices for businesses not owned by the city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Well put. I can&#8217;t understand why any city needs to be involved in conveyance prices for businesses not owned by the city.</p>
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		<title>By: Theranthrope</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/10/summon-a-car-startup-uber-rema.html#comment-1473908</link>
		<dc:creator>Theranthrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the direction he left, which was the  -opposite- of the way I told him to go, that cab driver (and his fare) might&#039;ve ended up in Tonapah. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the direction he left, which was the  -opposite- of the way I told him to go, that cab driver (and his fare) might&#8217;ve ended up in Tonapah. </p>
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		<title>By: Over the River</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/10/summon-a-car-startup-uber-rema.html#comment-1473877</link>
		<dc:creator>Over the River</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great story, thanks.  I guess it true what they say about Las Vegas &quot;What Happens in Vegas, Stays in Vegas&quot;.  The people riding around in this guy&#039;s cab never leave the city; they end up &quot;staying in Vegas&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great story, thanks.  I guess it true what they say about Las Vegas &#8220;What Happens in Vegas, Stays in Vegas&#8221;.  The people riding around in this guy&#8217;s cab never leave the city; they end up &#8220;staying in Vegas&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: JProffitt71</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/10/summon-a-car-startup-uber-rema.html#comment-1473871</link>
		<dc:creator>JProffitt71</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would seem to me, from this perspective, that the laws are arbitrary and counterproductive. Their only purpose seems to be to act as a competition deterrent, and indeed it seems they are being aggressively enforced that way (what public purpose does raising one services minimum price possibly serve?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would seem to me, from this perspective, that the laws are arbitrary and counterproductive. Their only purpose seems to be to act as a competition deterrent, and indeed it seems they are being aggressively enforced that way (what public purpose does raising one services minimum price possibly serve?).</p>
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		<title>By: Theranthrope</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/10/summon-a-car-startup-uber-rema.html#comment-1473867</link>
		<dc:creator>Theranthrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Las Vegas.. 
A while back, I was working part-time in a convenience store in North Las Vegas, miles from The LV Strip or Downtown LV, on graveyard shift. This particular store happened to be next to the City of North Las Vegas&#039;s municipal airport, as it&#039;s a municipal airport, it&#039;s mostly for small private and charter aircraft... as opposed to the big airport: McCarran International, which is usually the one tourists actually want.

The thing is... working at that particular store was an adventure ...in getting lost folks back to the Las Vegas Strip and/or McCarran Airport ...because they happened to type &quot;Las&quot; + &quot;Vegas&quot; + &quot;Airport&quot; into their GPS map device without checking WHICH airport they were supposed to be going to. It wasn&#039;t too bad, for me anyway, as the store was slow and not particularly dangerous at night and chatting with tourists from all over the U.S. and various nations the world, along with me occasionally dispensing some esoteric locals&#039;-only lore, was a interesting way to kill time during an otherwise boring shift in an otherwise boring store.

Now to the point of this post; while dealing with tourists was easy, dealing with Las Vegas cabdrivers, who are supposed to be &quot;local&quot;, mind you, was a different story.... 

These idiots would blow into town, minds full of tales full of fat tips bestowed by lucky gamblers and (illegal) kick-backs from stripclubs and &quot;massage&quot; parlors, thinking; &quot;...all you have to know is The Strip and the airport, don&#039;t worry about the rest&quot; with none of that street-memorization and &quot;knowing where the hell you&#039;re going&quot;-crap like in Chicago, or NY, or DC, needed. 
No downsides; win/win, right?

...predictably, some would get lost and somehow end up at my store, miles from anyplace they want to be. While the tourists were generally nice and appreciative (even the non-english speakers from a variety of nations ...actually, the non-english speakers were -especially- appreciative), contrasting against the cab drivers, who were class-A assholes. Every. Last. One.

I remember one guy in particular, an exceptionally arrogant bastard of a cab driver trying to find his way back to The Strip, with his fare sitting in the car with the meter running the entire time (talk about &quot;long-hauling&quot;), while the following dialog took place: 

Me: &quot;... just head south on Decatur, turn left when you get to Sahara ave, keep going till you hit Las Vegas Blvd south and turn right and you&#039;re THERE&quot; 

Him: &quot;Well I don&#039;t know where south is.&quot; 

Me: &quot;Um... dude, you don&#039;t have to, *points south* go this way on this street and keep going until you hit Sahara, then turn left.&quot;

Him: &quot;I don&#039;t where Sahara is. Do you know a faster way?&quot;

Me: &quot;Yes I do, but Vegas is weirdly laid out and I&#039;m not the one who&#039;s lost. So, I&#039;m giving you the simplest and most direct way. I know several others, but this way is the least-fuck-up-able.&quot; 

Him: *getting agitated* &quot;I don&#039;t know any of the streets here, so what&#039;s the fastest way!&quot; 

Me: &quot;You&#039;re the one who&#039;s lost. I&#039;m telling you the way that you&#039;re the least likely to get you lost AGAIN.&quot;

Him: &quot;What is the fastest way!&quot; 

Me: *points towards the -unmistakable- Stupak&#039;s Tower and lights of The Strip*  &quot;Head towards those lights.&quot;

Him: &quot;I don&#039;t know what those lights are!&quot; 

Me: &quot;You&#039;re a LAS VEGAS cab driver! You work for a local cab company! You LIVE here!&quot;

Me: *facepalm*

Me: ....

Me: &quot;Get the fuck out of my store.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Las Vegas..<br />
A while back, I was working part-time in a convenience store in North Las Vegas, miles from The LV Strip or Downtown LV, on graveyard shift. This particular store happened to be next to the City of North Las Vegas&#8217;s municipal airport, as it&#8217;s a municipal airport, it&#8217;s mostly for small private and charter aircraft&#8230; as opposed to the big airport: McCarran International, which is usually the one tourists actually want.</p>
<p>The thing is&#8230; working at that particular store was an adventure &#8230;in getting lost folks back to the Las Vegas Strip and/or McCarran Airport &#8230;because they happened to type &#8220;Las&#8221; + &#8220;Vegas&#8221; + &#8220;Airport&#8221; into their GPS map device without checking WHICH airport they were supposed to be going to. It wasn&#8217;t too bad, for me anyway, as the store was slow and not particularly dangerous at night and chatting with tourists from all over the U.S. and various nations the world, along with me occasionally dispensing some esoteric locals&#8217;-only lore, was a interesting way to kill time during an otherwise boring shift in an otherwise boring store.</p>
<p>Now to the point of this post; while dealing with tourists was easy, dealing with Las Vegas cabdrivers, who are supposed to be &#8220;local&#8221;, mind you, was a different story&#8230;. </p>
<p>These idiots would blow into town, minds full of tales full of fat tips bestowed by lucky gamblers and (illegal) kick-backs from stripclubs and &#8220;massage&#8221; parlors, thinking; &#8220;&#8230;all you have to know is The Strip and the airport, don&#8217;t worry about the rest&#8221; with none of that street-memorization and &#8220;knowing where the hell you&#8217;re going&#8221;-crap like in Chicago, or NY, or DC, needed. <br />
No downsides; win/win, right?</p>
<p>&#8230;predictably, some would get lost and somehow end up at my store, miles from anyplace they want to be. While the tourists were generally nice and appreciative (even the non-english speakers from a variety of nations &#8230;actually, the non-english speakers were -especially- appreciative), contrasting against the cab drivers, who were class-A assholes. Every. Last. One.</p>
<p>I remember one guy in particular, an exceptionally arrogant bastard of a cab driver trying to find his way back to The Strip, with his fare sitting in the car with the meter running the entire time (talk about &#8220;long-hauling&#8221;), while the following dialog took place: </p>
<p>Me: &#8220;&#8230; just head south on Decatur, turn left when you get to Sahara ave, keep going till you hit Las Vegas Blvd south and turn right and you&#8217;re THERE&#8221; </p>
<p>Him: &#8220;Well I don&#8217;t know where south is.&#8221; </p>
<p>Me: &#8220;Um&#8230; dude, you don&#8217;t have to, *points south* go this way on this street and keep going until you hit Sahara, then turn left.&#8221;</p>
<p>Him: &#8220;I don&#8217;t where Sahara is. Do you know a faster way?&#8221;</p>
<p>Me: &#8220;Yes I do, but Vegas is weirdly laid out and I&#8217;m not the one who&#8217;s lost. So, I&#8217;m giving you the simplest and most direct way. I know several others, but this way is the least-fuck-up-able.&#8221; </p>
<p>Him: *getting agitated* &#8220;I don&#8217;t know any of the streets here, so what&#8217;s the fastest way!&#8221; </p>
<p>Me: &#8220;You&#8217;re the one who&#8217;s lost. I&#8217;m telling you the way that you&#8217;re the least likely to get you lost AGAIN.&#8221;</p>
<p>Him: &#8220;What is the fastest way!&#8221; </p>
<p>Me: *points towards the -unmistakable- Stupak&#8217;s Tower and lights of The Strip*  &#8221;Head towards those lights.&#8221;</p>
<p>Him: &#8220;I don&#8217;t know what those lights are!&#8221; </p>
<p>Me: &#8220;You&#8217;re a LAS VEGAS cab driver! You work for a local cab company! You LIVE here!&#8221;</p>
<p>Me: *facepalm*</p>
<p>Me: &#8230;.</p>
<p>Me: &#8220;Get the fuck out of my store.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Geordie Korper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geordie Korper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everybody loves Uber so it seems to get ignored that that they are basically trying to use public opinion to keep themselves exempt from the requirements that taxicabs have while not complying with the requirements for the &quot;sedan for hire&quot; exemption. To completely over simplify sedan for hire use a fixed pre-negotiated rate and taxicabs use distance/time. Uber wants to use distance/time but call themselves a sedan for hire. Since DC has an open taxicab system unlike the medallion system used by some other cities I find their arguments unconvincing. Which isn&#039;t to say that the DC Taxicab commission isn&#039;t corrupt and self-serving however fixing that makes more sense to me than allowing Uber to continue to bend the laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody loves Uber so it seems to get ignored that that they are basically trying to use public opinion to keep themselves exempt from the requirements that taxicabs have while not complying with the requirements for the &#8220;sedan for hire&#8221; exemption. To completely over simplify sedan for hire use a fixed pre-negotiated rate and taxicabs use distance/time. Uber wants to use distance/time but call themselves a sedan for hire. Since DC has an open taxicab system unlike the medallion system used by some other cities I find their arguments unconvincing. Which isn&#8217;t to say that the DC Taxicab commission isn&#8217;t corrupt and self-serving however fixing that makes more sense to me than allowing Uber to continue to bend the laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Over the River</title>
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		<dc:creator>Over the River</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The city council is like reeds in the wind. They are hard-core one minute and limp the next. The taxi cab industry in the city is corrupt, cabs are crap, and they don&#039;t take kindly to someone stepping on their turf. Uber is loved by everyone who uses it. More people will use it in spite of the council&#039;s efforts to clean up the industry.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The city council is like reeds in the wind. They are hard-core one minute and limp the next. The taxi cab industry in the city is corrupt, cabs are crap, and they don&#8217;t take kindly to someone stepping on their turf. Uber is loved by everyone who uses it. More people will use it in spite of the council&#8217;s efforts to clean up the industry.  </p>
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		<title>By: Over the River</title>
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		<dc:creator>Over the River</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do hope you are talking about the City Council. Because you are then 100% correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do hope you are talking about the City Council. Because you are then 100% correct.</p>
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		<title>By: AlexG55</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlexG55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In America private hire services are more expensive than taxis? As someone used to Britain/London, I find that weird.

Here, we have taxis and minicabs. Taxis have to meet much stricter standards on both the vehicle and the driver (most famously the Conditions of Fitness and the Knowledge for London black cabs), but are allowed to pick up passengers who hail them on the street. A minicab can be pretty much any safe car with a licensed driver, but can only pick people up if pre-booked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In America private hire services are more expensive than taxis? As someone used to Britain/London, I find that weird.</p>
<p>Here, we have taxis and minicabs. Taxis have to meet much stricter standards on both the vehicle and the driver (most famously the Conditions of Fitness and the Knowledge for London black cabs), but are allowed to pick up passengers who hail them on the street. A minicab can be pretty much any safe car with a licensed driver, but can only pick people up if pre-booked.</p>
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		<title>By: bjohndook</title>
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		<dc:creator>bjohndook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 03:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Uber had broken rules by trying to be both a limousine service and a cab service.&quot;

I once overheard two botanists arguing over a Damned Thing that had blasphemously sprouted in a college yard. One claimed that the Damned Thing was a tree and the other claimed that it was a shrub. They each had good scholary arguments, and they were still debating when I left them. The world is forever spawning Damned Things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Uber had broken rules by trying to be both a limousine service and a cab service.&#8221;</p>
<p>I once overheard two botanists arguing over a Damned Thing that had blasphemously sprouted in a college yard. One claimed that the Damned Thing was a tree and the other claimed that it was a shrub. They each had good scholary arguments, and they were still debating when I left them. The world is forever spawning Damned Things.</p>
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		<title>By: Brea Plum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brea Plum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 02:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, D.C., how&#039;s that &quot;free market&quot; thing working out for ya? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, D.C., how&#8217;s that &#8220;free market&#8221; thing working out for ya? </p>
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		<title>By: JProffitt71</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/10/summon-a-car-startup-uber-rema.html#comment-1473552</link>
		<dc:creator>JProffitt71</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 02:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christ what a bunch of legislating assholes.

Edit: Clarified!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christ what a bunch of legislating assholes.</p>
<p>Edit: Clarified!</p>
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		<title>By: catherinecc</title>
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		<dc:creator>catherinecc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 02:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corruption is freedom!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corruption is freedom!</p>
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