Comments on: Can Chumbawamba be replaced with a sequel to Independence Day?

By: elron

elron — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 19:05:00 +0000

This is really a small-minded article -making fun of an excellent band, Chumbawamba, just to wallow in fan-boy pleasure over the possibility of a sequel to Independence Day –a silly, poorly written blockbuster that ripped off Star Wars and Childhood’s End.

By: P.F. Bruns

P.F. Bruns — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:02:00 +0000

It's so obvious why there needs to be a sequel to Independence Day. Think of the characters going through the same tribulations as Stantz, Zeddemore, Spengler, and Venkman in Ghostbusters 2

By: Jenn Chlebus

Jenn Chlebus — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 03:44:00 +0000

WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT. Jeff Goldblum… Will Smith…. I don’t care if it’s ID4.2 or a Buckaroo Banzai reboot. I want to see those two on camera together again. I have for years.

Actually… Will Smith would make a convincing Buckaroo….

By: penguinchris

penguinchris — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 22:24:00 +0000

And all their characters were getting incredibly laid that night.

I feel as though I need to remind you that the first lady dies in the film, and so I somehow doubt that Pullman’s character got laid that night, though I suppose it’s possible.

By: penguinchris

penguinchris — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 22:20:00 +0000

Of course there would be since it was such a huge money maker… but it seems that the point here is that they didn’t do the sequel right away because they knew it would just be a cash grab and would suck. That makes me think surprisingly highly of the creators!

I really don’t think Independence Day would be held in as high regard as it is (and yes, it is, even if most of it is actually terrible) if they’d had a shitty sequel right away and I applaud the filmmakers for realizing that too, for once.

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:54:00 +0000

Also incongruous.

Not from the US perspective. They’re both considered one-hit disco wonders from somewhere over yonder.

By: Mister44

Mister44 — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:32:00 +0000

No – I don’t. I am sure I have some embarrassing pop CDs in the overall collection.

By: Steve Taylor

Steve Taylor — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:28:00 +0000

That’s incredibly harsh. Also incongruous.

By: Steve Taylor

Steve Taylor — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:26:00 +0000

Hell no – love ‘em to bits. The thought of them breaking up makes me almost as sad as the thought of an Independence Day sequel.

By: MattAtDoyle

MattAtDoyle — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:18:00 +0000

I believe they should make a sequel to the movie “What About Bob?” entitled “Now What About Bob?” Jessie Eisenberg can play a confused lamp. At the same time, they can shoot a prequel, “Who’s Bob?” in which a CGI Bill Murray does nothing but eat loaf after loaf of bread for 2 hours.

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:10:00 +0000

Now I feel compelled to ask if you also have Right Said Fred on CD.

By: Richard Morris

Richard Morris — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:06:00 +0000

Chumbawumba should not be judged by their hits. They were the voice of the radical British 80′s left. Starting with anarco-punk “Picture of Starving Children sell records” they have always been a political band. “English Rebel songs 1381-1984″ has one of the best selection of protest songs around charting a radical tradition back to 1381. They have collected the songs of rebel everywhere. Tubthumping was an attempt to take the message to a wider audience, which it succeeded.

By: CastanhasDoPara

CastanhasDoPara — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 19:14:00 +0000

I’ll give you that over the years Chumbawamba has had many many different members but I’d wager an entire container ship worth of donuts that the fans still vastly out-number the members.

Also while I’m here. I just love it that when I mention that I like Chumbawamba I get the goofiest looks from people who invariably say, “you like that stupid drinking song??!!” To which I should reply “if you ask me, that song being picked up in the states and broadcast a bazillion times on douche-rock stations was probably the single biggest fuck-up for the band.” Though I’m often less charitable and just go with, “fucking ignorant yank.” Though if I can find somebody that will listen for a quick minute I’ll usually tell them to go look for “Homophobia”, “Give the Anarchist a Cigarette”, or the First Two albums. If you listen to any of those items it should quickly become apparent that American radio only plays garbage and that Chumbawamba is actually a really fucking good band.

So check it out before you just blindly bash a group that you’ve only been spoon-fed one over-played poorly understood “one-hit”. Please and thanks.

By: tristan eldritch

tristan eldritch — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:16:00 +0000

Oh, thanks a lot, glad you enjoyed Borderland!

By: Dr P Fenderson

Dr P Fenderson — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:04:00 +0000

“In the UK, a tubthumper is a politician… The liner notes on the album Tubthumper, from which “Tubthumping” was the first single, put the song in a radical context, quoting a UK anti-road protester, Paris 1968 graffiti, details about the famous McLibel case and the short story “The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubthumping

By: chris jimson

chris jimson — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:48:00 +0000

I think what we need is a prequel to “Independence Day”– everybody loves prequels.

How about the touching story of the aliens leaving their own planet with a tear in their eye, meanwhile at the same time back on Earth, Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum’s ancestors are using their fins to walk on land for the first time, saying goodbye to their watery home with a tear in their eye.

By: Mister44

Mister44 — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:47:00 +0000

You know, the whole CD Tubthumping is on is actually pretty good. I really like “The Good Ship Lifestyle”

By: Todd Zaba

Todd Zaba — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:42:00 +0000

Agreed. Everything else in the post makes sense, except for that sentence. As an American, I am assuming I might be ignorant of some higher level commentary going on in the lyrics. If that is the case, please enlighten us.

By: hypnosifl

hypnosifl — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:41:00 +0000

Speaking of strange connections, tristan, just two days ago I discovered your blog (I was googling for info on Kenneth Grant after reading this discussion of Alan Moore's latest occult adventure) and I was immediately caught up perusing your many fascinating posts on arcane lore (one of your posts motivated me to read the fantastic weird tale "The House on the Borderland", so thanks for that)...and now suddenly I come across you posting on boingboing! Amazing, the coincidences that pop up when one engages in internet scrying...

By: howaboutthisdangit

howaboutthisdangit — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:27:00 +0000

As a former president, Pullman’s character would be an unofficial ambassador who brings the aliens to the negotiating table when all else has failed.

By: i_prefer_yeti

i_prefer_yeti — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:26:00 +0000

The answer to the question is an unequivocal yes.

Indeed, Chumbawamba can actually be replaced by a far less ambitious project such as: Megashark vs. Guy Fieri.

Welcome Jamie!

By: Lurking_Grue

Lurking_Grue — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:07:00 +0000

Dude! They are my favorite Anarcho, Punk, Dance, Folk bands.

Seriously, I did have most of their major albums.

By: bcsizemo

bcsizemo — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:02:00 +0000

If you really think about it the aliens targeted major cities first. So in theory that’d leave a lot of your rural country folk unharmed. Just imagine the political ramifications if the top 10 major US cities were gone…

By: bcsizemo

bcsizemo — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:00:00 +0000

It’s like we’d almost get a proper aliens movie then.

By: Baldhead

Baldhead — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:58:00 +0000

The thing that baffled me about hearing that Chumbawumba broke up is that publications like Rolling Stone imagined we’d care. One hit, 15 years ago. I suspect the number of people who knew they were still around was onlly slightly larger than the membership of the band itself.

By: gauch0

gauch0 — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:55:00 +0000

How about Independence Day re-imagined as a Broadway one-man show starring Jeff Goldblum?

By: Jim Saul

Jim Saul — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:46:00 +0000

So what happened to the guy who crashed his into the ship and did the real damage? The one who was held and probed as established earlier in the movie?

Oh yeah… McCain.

By: Jim Saul

Jim Saul — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:43:00 +0000

There you go… the antivirus software turns out to be incompatible with other systems and causes additional system failures.

The aliens and our heroes race to get to the one artifact that can turn the tide one way or the other…

The Boot Recovery Disk!

“Today we declare our independence… from tech support!”

By: SomeGuyNamedMark

SomeGuyNamedMark — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:31:00 +0000

I still haven’t forgiven that movie for creating the worst plot device in history.

By: Roger Strong

Roger Strong — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:03:00 +0000

Western companies had no qualms about creating the “Great Firewall of China” or selling software to Syria to identify and locate dissidents. They wouldn’t hesitate to sell anti-virus software to the aliens.