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	<title>Comments on: &quot;Everyone Only Wants&#160;Temps&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: ChickieD</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/16/everyone-only-wants-temps.html#comment-1479755</link>
		<dc:creator>ChickieD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My ex works with manufacturing. He used to work for a company that does large scale printing. There&#039;s a job which is just moving cut ends of paper from one spot to another -  no skill involved. The manager of the plant actually started out in this position, so no one in the company saw it as a useless position and the management thought it was a shame someone didn&#039;t see the opportunity in the job and come in and work their butt off and move up from it. Printing is a skilled industry and it&#039;s tough to get jobs like this where you can get on the job experience. But, they couldn&#039;t keep the position filled. HR was spending a lot of time trying to hire for this low wage position and then most people would bomb the drug test or not bother to show up for it and they&#039;d have to start the hiring process again. Eventually, they hired a temp firm to keep the position filled and it saved them a lot of money and time. There are a lot of people out there who want to pick up work when it suits them. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My ex works with manufacturing. He used to work for a company that does large scale printing. There&#8217;s a job which is just moving cut ends of paper from one spot to another &#8211;  no skill involved. The manager of the plant actually started out in this position, so no one in the company saw it as a useless position and the management thought it was a shame someone didn&#8217;t see the opportunity in the job and come in and work their butt off and move up from it. Printing is a skilled industry and it&#8217;s tough to get jobs like this where you can get on the job experience. But, they couldn&#8217;t keep the position filled. HR was spending a lot of time trying to hire for this low wage position and then most people would bomb the drug test or not bother to show up for it and they&#8217;d have to start the hiring process again. Eventually, they hired a temp firm to keep the position filled and it saved them a lot of money and time. There are a lot of people out there who want to pick up work when it suits them. </p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/16/everyone-only-wants-temps.html#comment-1479593</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I kinda like the niacin flush. Only once was it a bit painful, like applying way too much pain cream, but I just concentrated on the awesome tingly sensation. It tends to last about 5 minutes or less. Do yours last longer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I kinda like the niacin flush. Only once was it a bit painful, like applying way too much pain cream, but I just concentrated on the awesome tingly sensation. It tends to last about 5 minutes or less. Do yours last longer?</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/16/everyone-only-wants-temps.html#comment-1479565</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s one hell of a time machine you got there. I heard P.Pilate was only 4&#039;9&quot; and wore lifts. Can you check on that for me?

And Samsams point that vagrants are not unemployable based on appearance is spot on. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s one hell of a time machine you got there. I heard P.Pilate was only 4&#8217;9&#8243; and wore lifts. Can you check on that for me?</p>
<p>And Samsams point that vagrants are not unemployable based on appearance is spot on. </p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/16/everyone-only-wants-temps.html#comment-1479557</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My conclusion? I used what you wrote. Watch, I&#039;ll do it again. Diabetic you say? Is that a medical condition? It is? It can be debilitating? Why yes. 

Not such a leap now is it?

I&#039;m certain if you needed them you cold trot out many other details that were wholly relevant but not present in your post, like this one claim that he was handling food. I&#039;ve never seen a Wal-Mart that sells unpackaged meat, but I&#039;ve only been to Phoenix once, but hey if it&#039;s so hot there they have to sell unpackaged meats licked by poorly dressed obese people, I guess that&#039;s what ya gotta do to offer low low prices everyday.

If you don&#039;t think it is wrong to have staff that do not work with the public fired because a particular customer is disgusted by their appearance due to a medical condition they suffer from, then you are in at least one respect a bad person in my book. 

You&#039;re free to express your disgust when you encounter obese people, or sick people, or poorly dressed poor people, or even a combination thereof, but demanding that they be taken off the job at your say so based on those factors is way out of bounds despite your johnny come lately details to justify. 

If you didn&#039;t ask the man if he was sick and needed medical attention, you were unjustified in demanding he be put off his job based on your assessment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My conclusion? I used what you wrote. Watch, I&#8217;ll do it again. Diabetic you say? Is that a medical condition? It is? It can be debilitating? Why yes. </p>
<p>Not such a leap now is it?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m certain if you needed them you cold trot out many other details that were wholly relevant but not present in your post, like this one claim that he was handling food. I&#8217;ve never seen a Wal-Mart that sells unpackaged meat, but I&#8217;ve only been to Phoenix once, but hey if it&#8217;s so hot there they have to sell unpackaged meats licked by poorly dressed obese people, I guess that&#8217;s what ya gotta do to offer low low prices everyday.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t think it is wrong to have staff that do not work with the public fired because a particular customer is disgusted by their appearance due to a medical condition they suffer from, then you are in at least one respect a bad person in my book. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re free to express your disgust when you encounter obese people, or sick people, or poorly dressed poor people, or even a combination thereof, but demanding that they be taken off the job at your say so based on those factors is way out of bounds despite your johnny come lately details to justify. </p>
<p>If you didn&#8217;t ask the man if he was sick and needed medical attention, you were unjustified in demanding he be put off his job based on your assessment.</p>
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		<title>By: Boundegar</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/16/everyone-only-wants-temps.html#comment-1479432</link>
		<dc:creator>Boundegar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a non-compete like that once.  I ignored it.  Nothing happened.

I think those contracts might have some teeth if you were a highly-sought software wizard or some other kind of...  I dunno, wizard or something.

But the former employer has to file suit to make it stick.  And not many of us are worth a few grand in lawyers&#039; fees.  Fact is, most of our employers wouldn&#039;t even know if we went over to the competition...  or care.  It&#039;s your superego that enforces the contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a non-compete like that once.  I ignored it.  Nothing happened.</p>
<p>I think those contracts might have some teeth if you were a highly-sought software wizard or some other kind of&#8230;  I dunno, wizard or something.</p>
<p>But the former employer has to file suit to make it stick.  And not many of us are worth a few grand in lawyers&#8217; fees.  Fact is, most of our employers wouldn&#8217;t even know if we went over to the competition&#8230;  or care.  It&#8217;s your superego that enforces the contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason I don&#039;t understand (maybe it was the quotes), but David Lee Roth sang the title of this article in my head to the tune of Everybody Wants Some.

Everyone only wants temps... I need temps too!...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason I don&#8217;t understand (maybe it was the quotes), but David Lee Roth sang the title of this article in my head to the tune of Everybody Wants Some.</p>
<p>Everyone only wants temps&#8230; I need temps too!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/16/everyone-only-wants-temps.html#comment-1479314</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you sure that you didn&#039;t run into a chlorofiend?</description>
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		<title>By: penguinchris</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/16/everyone-only-wants-temps.html#comment-1479313</link>
		<dc:creator>penguinchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comments have been quite interesting as I&#039;m considering temping (in SoCal). I&#039;m just curious though, what education do you have? 

I&#039;ve been counting on my high level of education to keep me out of the shittiest jobs, but I&#039;m not sure how much it may count for at a temp agency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comments have been quite interesting as I&#8217;m considering temping (in SoCal). I&#8217;m just curious though, what education do you have? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been counting on my high level of education to keep me out of the shittiest jobs, but I&#8217;m not sure how much it may count for at a temp agency.</p>
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		<title>By: Palomino</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/16/everyone-only-wants-temps.html#comment-1479306</link>
		<dc:creator>Palomino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, its been re-branded, it&#039;s now termed  &quot;Human Capital&quot;. I hate that term with a passion, it&#039;s so.............cold. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, its been re-branded, it&#8217;s now termed  &#8221;Human Capital&#8221;. I hate that term with a passion, it&#8217;s so&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.cold. </p>
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		<title>By: Palomino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palomino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes,  thought Diabetes, but this guy was working in the food department. 

I don&#039;t know how my story came across that I was &quot;repulsed&quot;, it must have been my vividness. 

I guess I should be amazed how this segment of society WANTED to work, as opposed to the able-bodied who don&#039;t want to work at all. I think what bothered me was that they HAD to work for so little, no benefits and for what, just to live paycheck to paycheck?Yes, it was a reality check for me, to see how people are REALLY struggling, but I need to be amazed too by their perseverance and will to survive. That&#039;s what it was, I was walking through a building full of people working to simply survive, not just put a little extra cash in their pockets. Thanks the comment. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes,  thought Diabetes, but this guy was working in the food department. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how my story came across that I was &#8220;repulsed&#8221;, it must have been my vividness. </p>
<p>I guess I should be amazed how this segment of society WANTED to work, as opposed to the able-bodied who don&#8217;t want to work at all. I think what bothered me was that they HAD to work for so little, no benefits and for what, just to live paycheck to paycheck?Yes, it was a reality check for me, to see how people are REALLY struggling, but I need to be amazed too by their perseverance and will to survive. That&#8217;s what it was, I was walking through a building full of people working to simply survive, not just put a little extra cash in their pockets. Thanks the comment. </p>
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		<title>By: Palomino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palomino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Jonathan, that is a part of it. Years ago I experienced a post corneal transplant eye infection. My eye was weeping and gooey with yellow ick. I worked at an espresso counter for a large grocery chain. I was promptly sent to the doctors. I&#039;m glad they sent me, I almost lost my eye, I was in hospital for 3 weeks. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Jonathan, that is a part of it. Years ago I experienced a post corneal transplant eye infection. My eye was weeping and gooey with yellow ick. I worked at an espresso counter for a large grocery chain. I was promptly sent to the doctors. I&#8217;m glad they sent me, I almost lost my eye, I was in hospital for 3 weeks. </p>
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		<title>By: Palomino</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/16/everyone-only-wants-temps.html#comment-1479301</link>
		<dc:creator>Palomino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did you come to the conclusion, &quot;You described a disabled or challenged person&quot;? that&#039;s quite a leap, I hope you didn&#039;t hurt yourself.  I can&#039;t help what you shove between the lines. The fact that YOU assume this person is disabled, (even though they are working!) is astonishing. 

Just because someone is at least 400lbs, wearing clothes much to small for them, and covered in oozing sores, doesn&#039;t, by any means, imply they are &quot;disabled or challenged&quot;. Where&#039;s your frame of reference coming from? Maybe it would be challenging for you to live like this. 

Maybe, just maybe, this person is a diabetic slob who has no interest in taking care of himself? No, I don&#039;t want to look at someone who doesn&#039;t want to take care of themselves, with oozing diabetic-like ulcers stocking the fucking meat counter! THAT&quot;S why I was going to call 911, it&#039;s illegal for him to work with food. Put him in the garden center!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did you come to the conclusion, &#8220;You described a disabled or challenged person&#8221;? that&#8217;s quite a leap, I hope you didn&#8217;t hurt yourself.  I can&#8217;t help what you shove between the lines. The fact that YOU assume this person is disabled, (even though they are working!) is astonishing. </p>
<p>Just because someone is at least 400lbs, wearing clothes much to small for them, and covered in oozing sores, doesn&#8217;t, by any means, imply they are &#8220;disabled or challenged&#8221;. Where&#8217;s your frame of reference coming from? Maybe it would be challenging for you to live like this. </p>
<p>Maybe, just maybe, this person is a diabetic slob who has no interest in taking care of himself? No, I don&#8217;t want to look at someone who doesn&#8217;t want to take care of themselves, with oozing diabetic-like ulcers stocking the fucking meat counter! THAT&#8221;S why I was going to call 911, it&#8217;s illegal for him to work with food. Put him in the garden center!</p>
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		<title>By: Palomino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palomino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you missed the word &quot;stringy&quot;?  Jesus was drenched in rare oils, had fantastic flowing hair and beard;  the top of his head being awash in a glowing golden light and his  feet immaculately clean. Is that what you envisioned? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you missed the word &#8220;stringy&#8221;?  Jesus was drenched in rare oils, had fantastic flowing hair and beard;  the top of his head being awash in a glowing golden light and his  feet immaculately clean. Is that what you envisioned? </p>
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		<title>By: Palomino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palomino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our military does the same thing, some of the &quot;living quarters&quot; are disgusting storage containers, the people rarely get paid what they were promised, are shuffled around country to country, have their passports withheld.  But the military has an &quot;excuse&quot; &quot;Yes, they WORK for us, but are NOT EMPLOYED by us.&quot;   How convenient. 

It&#039;s our military&#039;s best kept secret. It&#039;s slavery and there&#039;s been rioting too. Some of the riots have been covered up as military incidents, like attacks from the locals, but it&#039;s from the INSIDE. 

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/06/06/110606fa_fact_stillman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our military does the same thing, some of the &#8220;living quarters&#8221; are disgusting storage containers, the people rarely get paid what they were promised, are shuffled around country to country, have their passports withheld.  But the military has an &#8220;excuse&#8221; &#8220;Yes, they WORK for us, but are NOT EMPLOYED by us.&#8221;   How convenient. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s our military&#8217;s best kept secret. It&#8217;s slavery and there&#8217;s been rioting too. Some of the riots have been covered up as military incidents, like attacks from the locals, but it&#8217;s from the INSIDE. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/06/06/110606fa_fact_stillman" rel="nofollow">http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/06/06/110606fa_fact_stillman</a></p>
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		<title>By: Palomino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palomino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other day I was at Walmart, around 3.a.m. I was amazed at how liberal and humane the company is!  I saw so many homeless people working, even one guy who was covered in sores.  A few of the other workers could barely move, they had neck braces and casts on. One guy, with long greasy hair and beard,  skin &amp; bones, with piercings, rotten teeth and tattoo&#039;s, someone who obviously  couldn&#039;t get a job anywhere else, trudged along like a real trooper! 

Thank you Walmart for giving these people an exciting place to work along with protecting them from our evil streets and keeping them safe &amp; dry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other day I was at Walmart, around 3.a.m. I was amazed at how liberal and humane the company is!  I saw so many homeless people working, even one guy who was covered in sores.  A few of the other workers could barely move, they had neck braces and casts on. One guy, with long greasy hair and beard,  skin &amp; bones, with piercings, rotten teeth and tattoo&#8217;s, someone who obviously  couldn&#8217;t get a job anywhere else, trudged along like a real trooper! </p>
<p>Thank you Walmart for giving these people an exciting place to work along with protecting them from our evil streets and keeping them safe &amp; dry.</p>
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		<title>By: Wreckrob8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wreckrob8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can sign an agreement. That doesn&#039;t make it legal. You can never sign away your legal rights. 

Agencies normally used to expect some recompense for the lost income once a temp was taken on permanently. This used to be a certain number of months&#039; payment. Employers would also be expected to sign an agreement to pay the agency if they chose to directly employ an agency worker.
But this was thirty years ago now.

I have never heard of an agency preventing employment entirely until a certain period had elapsed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can sign an agreement. That doesn&#8217;t make it legal. You can never sign away your legal rights. </p>
<p>Agencies normally used to expect some recompense for the lost income once a temp was taken on permanently. This used to be a certain number of months&#8217; payment. Employers would also be expected to sign an agreement to pay the agency if they chose to directly employ an agency worker.<br />
But this was thirty years ago now.</p>
<p>I have never heard of an agency preventing employment entirely until a certain period had elapsed.</p>
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		<title>By: Palomino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palomino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy, if one post can get thousands of people fired, maybe I&#039;m a great writer and I&#039;ve missed my calling. Or,  you&#039;re just that type of sad person who blames all the hurt on one person, it&#039;s SO easy that way. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, if one post can get thousands of people fired, maybe I&#8217;m a great writer and I&#8217;ve missed my calling. Or,  you&#8217;re just that type of sad person who blames all the hurt on one person, it&#8217;s SO easy that way. </p>
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		<title>By: Palomino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palomino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy all of your comments. My perception may be questioned, but not the scene itself. And the fact some try to explain it away by defining it as &quot;trolling&quot; is your pitiful attempts at trying to turn fact into fiction.  

I&#039;m not the one hiding these people at 3a.m, it&#039;s the people who employ them. The environment is very strange, weird, Orwellian, and actually fascinating. 

I shared this story with a women who lives next door. She had a great story of working  at a place where all you needed was an I.D. She made cheap tiny American Flags, the kind on toothpicks. She described these same people along with one strange, and illegal business practice; a quota bonus of CIGARETTES, one pack an hour. 

So explain my story away all you want, even if you have to try and explain me away. Reality hurts, even for those like me who can put it all into words. I worked at a drop in center for a few years and drove a city bus for five, I can spot an American Street Urchin a mile away along  with that unique smell of someone who sleeps on dirt &amp; cardboard underneath an overpass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy all of your comments. My perception may be questioned, but not the scene itself. And the fact some try to explain it away by defining it as &#8220;trolling&#8221; is your pitiful attempts at trying to turn fact into fiction.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not the one hiding these people at 3a.m, it&#8217;s the people who employ them. The environment is very strange, weird, Orwellian, and actually fascinating. </p>
<p>I shared this story with a women who lives next door. She had a great story of working  at a place where all you needed was an I.D. She made cheap tiny American Flags, the kind on toothpicks. She described these same people along with one strange, and illegal business practice; a quota bonus of CIGARETTES, one pack an hour. </p>
<p>So explain my story away all you want, even if you have to try and explain me away. Reality hurts, even for those like me who can put it all into words. I worked at a drop in center for a few years and drove a city bus for five, I can spot an American Street Urchin a mile away along  with that unique smell of someone who sleeps on dirt &amp; cardboard underneath an overpass.</p>
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		<title>By: SmokingHeartDesigns</title>
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		<dc:creator>SmokingHeartDesigns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re Fucked. </description>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 05:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t that racketeering or something?</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 05:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure in the UK a lot of agencies make you sign an agreement not to work directly for any company for a certain period after you work for them as a temp. Is this the same in the US? My wife worked in a nursing temp agency and she had to sign an agreement not to work for any of the nursing homes for two years after working there with the agency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure in the UK a lot of agencies make you sign an agreement not to work directly for any company for a certain period after you work for them as a temp. Is this the same in the US? My wife worked in a nursing temp agency and she had to sign an agreement not to work for any of the nursing homes for two years after working there with the agency.</p>
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		<title>By: BadIdeaSociety</title>
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		<dc:creator>BadIdeaSociety</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am kind of caught in this situation at the moment. I accepted a temp job just to do something. The job is somewhat outside of my skillset, but I am having a difficult time finding adequate work so I bit the bullet to do something work-related with my life. 

I am currently a new hire for this company, but my coworkers are underpaid and underappreciated. The manager of the department let me know that everybody I work with are idiots. They make a touch above minimum wage, receive no insurance, no pension/401k options, and just hate the job.  The department I work in is a total mess and without the current employees receiving better pay or the temp agency being resourceful enough to find people willing to bend over backward for a company that offers them no security and no loyalty, the system will never change. 

To be honest, I kind of hate myself for being a part of it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am kind of caught in this situation at the moment. I accepted a temp job just to do something. The job is somewhat outside of my skillset, but I am having a difficult time finding adequate work so I bit the bullet to do something work-related with my life. </p>
<p>I am currently a new hire for this company, but my coworkers are underpaid and underappreciated. The manager of the department let me know that everybody I work with are idiots. They make a touch above minimum wage, receive no insurance, no pension/401k options, and just hate the job.  The department I work in is a total mess and without the current employees receiving better pay or the temp agency being resourceful enough to find people willing to bend over backward for a company that offers them no security and no loyalty, the system will never change. </p>
<p>To be honest, I kind of hate myself for being a part of it. </p>
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		<title>By: pjcamp</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/16/everyone-only-wants-temps.html#comment-1479190</link>
		<dc:creator>pjcamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I temped one summer, in the first year of my first academic job. I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;m the only Ph.D. physicist to ever demonstrate brown gravy at a Sam&#039;s Club opening. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I temped one summer, in the first year of my first academic job. I&#8217;m pretty sure I&#8217;m the only Ph.D. physicist to ever demonstrate brown gravy at a Sam&#8217;s Club opening. </p>
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		<title>By: blueelm</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/16/everyone-only-wants-temps.html#comment-1479179</link>
		<dc:creator>blueelm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we do, and that the article makes a little too much of how evil temp agencies are. The toxic parts occur when people get trapped in temp work, or when companies use temp work when they really need dedicated resources because they think they&#039;re saving money which creates a downward spiral. I guess I think this topic deserves a bit more analysis than the article provides. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we do, and that the article makes a little too much of how evil temp agencies are. The toxic parts occur when people get trapped in temp work, or when companies use temp work when they really need dedicated resources because they think they&#8217;re saving money which creates a downward spiral. I guess I think this topic deserves a bit more analysis than the article provides. </p>
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		<title>By: blueelm</title>
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		<dc:creator>blueelm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My protestant (heh...) work ethic balks. I mean, I&#039;d love to have the leisure to work on the things I want to, pet projects, experiments, research, writing, music, art, all sorts of things I love to work on. Work day and night on. But I don&#039;t get to except on the side of work. But the thought of not working leaves me feeling miserable and hollow like I&#039;d just sort of end up making work out of not working &quot;I have to stare at this wall for one hour to prove I&#039;m not busy&quot; or something. Like, I&#039;d dig a hole in your back yard just to feel like I have something to do. I seriously can&#039;t stand not working.To be honest, I resent sleep and bathroom breaks because they distract me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My protestant (heh&#8230;) work ethic balks. I mean, I&#8217;d love to have the leisure to work on the things I want to, pet projects, experiments, research, writing, music, art, all sorts of things I love to work on. Work day and night on. But I don&#8217;t get to except on the side of work. But the thought of not working leaves me feeling miserable and hollow like I&#8217;d just sort of end up making work out of not working &#8220;I have to stare at this wall for one hour to prove I&#8217;m not busy&#8221; or something. Like, I&#8217;d dig a hole in your back yard just to feel like I have something to do. I seriously can&#8217;t stand not working.To be honest, I resent sleep and bathroom breaks because they distract me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Roberts</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/16/everyone-only-wants-temps.html#comment-1479150</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 01:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought we had both? Lucky us...</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Roberts</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/16/everyone-only-wants-temps.html#comment-1479147</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 01:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say he felt the man was being forced to continue working even though he should have been seeking medical attention, because his low pay with no benefits meant that he couldn&#039;t afford to take time off. In the UK I can imagine sending him home might do some good, as he could get free or cheap treatment, but I don&#039;t see what it would do in the US apart from taking a day&#039;s salary from him (and maybe giving him a day&#039;s rest). I&#039;d say Palomino was just shocked at how a large company like WalMart could care so little about their workers&#039; welfare that they would allow them to continue working when they should be seeing a doctor, and where their workers feel so trapped that this is their only option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say he felt the man was being forced to continue working even though he should have been seeking medical attention, because his low pay with no benefits meant that he couldn&#8217;t afford to take time off. In the UK I can imagine sending him home might do some good, as he could get free or cheap treatment, but I don&#8217;t see what it would do in the US apart from taking a day&#8217;s salary from him (and maybe giving him a day&#8217;s rest). I&#8217;d say Palomino was just shocked at how a large company like WalMart could care so little about their workers&#8217; welfare that they would allow them to continue working when they should be seeing a doctor, and where their workers feel so trapped that this is their only option.</p>
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		<title>By: Alittle Talk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alittle Talk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 00:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s time to recognize we don&#039;t need work and we all don&#039;t need jobs anymore. Once structural unemployment becomes impossible to chip away at maybe we can grow up and have a reasonable discussion about how life should actually be lived. The way it is right now is causing an incredible amount of unnecessary pain. 

Do we want future generations to be born only to be chewed up and treated like shit? Is there any moral rule that says we have to live this way? This discussion needs to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s time to recognize we don&#8217;t need work and we all don&#8217;t need jobs anymore. Once structural unemployment becomes impossible to chip away at maybe we can grow up and have a reasonable discussion about how life should actually be lived. The way it is right now is causing an incredible amount of unnecessary pain. </p>
<p>Do we want future generations to be born only to be chewed up and treated like shit? Is there any moral rule that says we have to live this way? This discussion needs to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: binarygirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>binarygirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 00:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the reason I mention that you want to work with multiple agencies  is to keep your options open and be able to turn down junk positions without hesitation or fear... not really to just be working multiple part time jobs. I look at the temp agency industry as a way to get your foot in the door with a fairly low barrier of entry, given the competition. The upside of being able to walk away from a job prospect turned bad (eg. moving boxes) for another opportunity in a day or so, is just another perk.

I&#039;d say, my entire adult life (I&#039;m 29 now) has been one &quot;recession&quot; after another.  I hear people talk about long term careers, company loyalty and all that but I&#039;ve never seen it work out that way. Employers use employees as long as its profitable for them to do so, when it&#039;s not profitable, you&#039;re out of a job, that&#039;s how the game works. The reality is that no job is &quot;safe&quot;, no position is &quot;secure&quot;. When you say that it&#039;s not a replacement for &quot;real employment&quot;, which I take as a job that feels &quot;more right&quot; as the better bet, I totally agree, those are the jobs you should stay with longer. I just don&#039;t believe that holding out 
for some ideal job with the right benefits are the answer. 

The only thing that you can legitimately count on in any job market is your ability to engineer this exploitative and parasitic system we live in to swing in our favour when we need it. I&#039;d argue the same could be said about the banking and credit industry as well.

I think that everyone needs to be a bit of an opportunist at heart. To me, that means engineering opportunities for yourself, creating options.  I believe people are at their most desperate when they feel like they&#039;re out of options, when they feel &quot;stuck&quot; in a situation they can&#039;t fight or flee.

I really despised temping truthfully, I had bad experiences with a myriad of companies I wound up working for. Yes, they were largely office positions, but it got me exposure to work one on one with a number of people who became springboards for small business ventures, longer term employment, and other experiences I wouldn&#039;t have had just hitting up interviews. Did a lot of those ventures work out? Hell to the no! But they&#039;re all worth the effort. 

My point was largely that this particular exploitative system is one that, used in such a way, can offer you a launching pad for more options and control. 

Also... don&#039;t get sick, unless your family or something, anyone will ditch a temp on the spot, makes you look too risky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the reason I mention that you want to work with multiple agencies  is to keep your options open and be able to turn down junk positions without hesitation or fear&#8230; not really to just be working multiple part time jobs. I look at the temp agency industry as a way to get your foot in the door with a fairly low barrier of entry, given the competition. The upside of being able to walk away from a job prospect turned bad (eg. moving boxes) for another opportunity in a day or so, is just another perk.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say, my entire adult life (I&#8217;m 29 now) has been one &#8220;recession&#8221; after another.  I hear people talk about long term careers, company loyalty and all that but I&#8217;ve never seen it work out that way. Employers use employees as long as its profitable for them to do so, when it&#8217;s not profitable, you&#8217;re out of a job, that&#8217;s how the game works. The reality is that no job is &#8220;safe&#8221;, no position is &#8220;secure&#8221;. When you say that it&#8217;s not a replacement for &#8220;real employment&#8221;, which I take as a job that feels &#8220;more right&#8221; as the better bet, I totally agree, those are the jobs you should stay with longer. I just don&#8217;t believe that holding out<br />
for some ideal job with the right benefits are the answer. </p>
<p>The only thing that you can legitimately count on in any job market is your ability to engineer this exploitative and parasitic system we live in to swing in our favour when we need it. I&#8217;d argue the same could be said about the banking and credit industry as well.</p>
<p>I think that everyone needs to be a bit of an opportunist at heart. To me, that means engineering opportunities for yourself, creating options.  I believe people are at their most desperate when they feel like they&#8217;re out of options, when they feel &#8220;stuck&#8221; in a situation they can&#8217;t fight or flee.</p>
<p>I really despised temping truthfully, I had bad experiences with a myriad of companies I wound up working for. Yes, they were largely office positions, but it got me exposure to work one on one with a number of people who became springboards for small business ventures, longer term employment, and other experiences I wouldn&#8217;t have had just hitting up interviews. Did a lot of those ventures work out? Hell to the no! But they&#8217;re all worth the effort. </p>
<p>My point was largely that this particular exploitative system is one that, used in such a way, can offer you a launching pad for more options and control. </p>
<p>Also&#8230; don&#8217;t get sick, unless your family or something, anyone will ditch a temp on the spot, makes you look too risky.</p>
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		<title>By: Atnor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atnor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm, they&#039;re taking temp jobs that require almost no skill and are paid accordingly. Yeah, it&#039;s tough, horrible work that pays very little... but you generally arent supposed to be doing this type of work for months and years at a time.  

There&#039;s a reason low skill minimum wage jobs pay low wages. They dont require the employee to bring much at all to the table. If it does require more skills, it very quickly becomes more important for the employer to get someone who &lt;i&gt;has&lt;/i&gt; additional skill and thus would be worth the further expense. Employers who dont make that leap and continue to use temp workers in more skilled, necessary positions may enjoy a short-term savings, but they get crappy results and longer term it&#039;s just bad business. Most who try that will end up paying a heavier financial price in some way. 

But I dont see a whole lot of examples in the article for those types of more skilled jobs... Other than the obvious examples of illegal behavior, like screwing them out of actual wage time...  I dont see the &quot;exploitation&quot;. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, they&#8217;re taking temp jobs that require almost no skill and are paid accordingly. Yeah, it&#8217;s tough, horrible work that pays very little&#8230; but you generally arent supposed to be doing this type of work for months and years at a time.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a reason low skill minimum wage jobs pay low wages. They dont require the employee to bring much at all to the table. If it does require more skills, it very quickly becomes more important for the employer to get someone who <i>has</i> additional skill and thus would be worth the further expense. Employers who dont make that leap and continue to use temp workers in more skilled, necessary positions may enjoy a short-term savings, but they get crappy results and longer term it&#8217;s just bad business. Most who try that will end up paying a heavier financial price in some way. </p>
<p>But I dont see a whole lot of examples in the article for those types of more skilled jobs&#8230; Other than the obvious examples of illegal behavior, like screwing them out of actual wage time&#8230;  I dont see the &#8220;exploitation&#8221;. </p>
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