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		<title>By: penguinchris</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/26/8-habits-of-high-effective-fra.html#comment-1490387</link>
		<dc:creator>penguinchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 02:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, but... unfortunately throwing out your data doesn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;just&lt;/i&gt; mean that you spent a bunch of time and money and have nothing to show for it. It also means that future funding is more difficult to come by, and your job is at risk if you don&#039;t publish anything - even though your results are useless.

The whole &quot;publish or perish&quot; thing is what drives most scientific fraud. Realistically, most science gives negative results or otherwise fails. But despite the failures being just as useful as successes, nobody is interested in the failures. So everything has to be framed as a success. Often this is possible, but not always. 

If you&#039;re months or years into a research project and find that you&#039;re stuck with essentially nothing even remotely publishable, through no fault of your own, you&#039;re screwed if you&#039;re not a tenured university professor (and these days most people doing the most risky/speculative research aren&#039;t). It can ruin your career entirely. So a lot of BS gets published. 

I have personal experience with this and let me tell you, it is heartbreaking to realize that the research you&#039;ve spent months/years working on is useless. I decided not to BS it and did not try to publish my master&#039;s research. I&#039;ve been unemployed ever since and my chances of going back to school are not the greatest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, but&#8230; unfortunately throwing out your data doesn&#8217;t <i>just</i> mean that you spent a bunch of time and money and have nothing to show for it. It also means that future funding is more difficult to come by, and your job is at risk if you don&#8217;t publish anything &#8211; even though your results are useless.</p>
<p>The whole &#8220;publish or perish&#8221; thing is what drives most scientific fraud. Realistically, most science gives negative results or otherwise fails. But despite the failures being just as useful as successes, nobody is interested in the failures. So everything has to be framed as a success. Often this is possible, but not always. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re months or years into a research project and find that you&#8217;re stuck with essentially nothing even remotely publishable, through no fault of your own, you&#8217;re screwed if you&#8217;re not a tenured university professor (and these days most people doing the most risky/speculative research aren&#8217;t). It can ruin your career entirely. So a lot of BS gets published. </p>
<p>I have personal experience with this and let me tell you, it is heartbreaking to realize that the research you&#8217;ve spent months/years working on is useless. I decided not to BS it and did not try to publish my master&#8217;s research. I&#8217;ve been unemployed ever since and my chances of going back to school are not the greatest.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure.</p>
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		<title>By: BombBlastLightingWaltz</title>
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		<dc:creator>BombBlastLightingWaltz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If applied with Dilbertism,  Research is always a finagle. 

Or as they say, &quot;Inconclusive. More funding required.&quot; When the funding dries up, the published content may be refutable, with an argument that, hence the lack of funding to back up the premise makes it refutable.  Such is the swindle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If applied with Dilbertism,  Research is always a finagle. </p>
<p>Or as they say, &#8220;Inconclusive. More funding required.&#8221; When the funding dries up, the published content may be refutable, with an argument that, hence the lack of funding to back up the premise makes it refutable.  Such is the swindle.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregg Braden, in my opinion, is a master of pushing fake pseudoscience (do they offer that degree?) -  Why do so many people believe this guy, or pay him anything for seminars, or buy his books/dvds/any other bullspit he offers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregg Braden, in my opinion, is a master of pushing fake pseudoscience (do they offer that degree?) -  Why do so many people believe this guy, or pay him anything for seminars, or buy his books/dvds/any other bullspit he offers?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 21:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Headline typo? Do you mean &quot;highly effective&quot;, not &quot;high effective&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Headline typo? Do you mean &#8220;highly effective&#8221;, not &#8220;high effective&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: ZikZak</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZikZak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 21:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Traditionally*, scientists aren&#039;t expected to reach a particular conclusion, they&#039;re just expected to gather some data and reach a conclusion, whatever it may be.  So the data that disproves your story is actually still somewhat valuable...possibly even publishable.  Throwing out your data just means that you spent a bunch of time and money and have nothing to show for it.

* excluding, of course, the whole corrupt world of corporate scientific findings-for-hire, in which you can pretty much reverse everything I&#039;ve said in this comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traditionally*, scientists aren&#8217;t expected to reach a particular conclusion, they&#8217;re just expected to gather some data and reach a conclusion, whatever it may be.  So the data that disproves your story is actually still somewhat valuable&#8230;possibly even publishable.  Throwing out your data just means that you spent a bunch of time and money and have nothing to show for it.</p>
<p>* excluding, of course, the whole corrupt world of corporate scientific findings-for-hire, in which you can pretty much reverse everything I&#8217;ve said in this comment.</p>
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		<title>By: MonkeyBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MonkeyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 21:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> That supposes you are actually performing research as opposed to cooking up results out of thin air.

For actual research you have to distinguish between &quot;cherry picking&quot;  data (e.g. throw out all patients that didn&#039;t respond positively to a drug) v.s. not including say some measurement that doesn&#039;t seem to support the theory or go against it  that you have no understanding of or explanation for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> That supposes you are actually performing research as opposed to cooking up results out of thin air.</p>
<p>For actual research you have to distinguish between &#8220;cherry picking&#8221;  data (e.g. throw out all patients that didn&#8217;t respond positively to a drug) v.s. not including say some measurement that doesn&#8217;t seem to support the theory or go against it  that you have no understanding of or explanation for.</p>
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		<title>By: Boris Bartlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boris Bartlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the advice applies only if the fraudster&#039;s goal is to have a long, secure, but not especially distinguished scientific career. Many of the frauds that I can recall have been detected because the researchers involved *wanted* to make a splash, so point 3) in particular was not a piece of advice they could have followed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the advice applies only if the fraudster&#8217;s goal is to have a long, secure, but not especially distinguished scientific career. Many of the frauds that I can recall have been detected because the researchers involved *wanted* to make a splash, so point 3) in particular was not a piece of advice they could have followed.</p>
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		<title>By: JeffF</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeffF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 20:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect the most common and most successful form of scientific fraud is very simple: Throw out the results that don&#039;t support your story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect the most common and most successful form of scientific fraud is very simple: Throw out the results that don&#8217;t support your story.</p>
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