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	<title>Comments on: Ethnic slur on hotel&#160;TV</title>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493852</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is 110% absolutely correct, and for those who don&#039;t differentiate the difference fail scientifically to disseminate information presented to them in a journalistic manner. With that said, we also can blame certain members of the media for using it interchangeably, as the idea is to spark &quot;outrage&quot; which we know when ignorance begets more ignorance...thus rationale and logical thinking is plum thrown away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is 110% absolutely correct, and for those who don&#8217;t differentiate the difference fail scientifically to disseminate information presented to them in a journalistic manner. With that said, we also can blame certain members of the media for using it interchangeably, as the idea is to spark &#8220;outrage&#8221; which we know when ignorance begets more ignorance&#8230;thus rationale and logical thinking is plum thrown away.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493848</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Understand, this is the 21st Century and gen x and lower use the term between each other. White and White, Latino and Latino, and yes Black and Black.

Let&#039;s not limited the context of its usage to one ethnic group.  It comes off as if you are old school and out the loop if you get me.  Nevertheless, I frequent the area urban parks, and I can assure you, that those youth younger than I am is throwing it around.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understand, this is the 21st Century and gen x and lower use the term between each other. White and White, Latino and Latino, and yes Black and Black.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not limited the context of its usage to one ethnic group.  It comes off as if you are old school and out the loop if you get me.  Nevertheless, I frequent the area urban parks, and I can assure you, that those youth younger than I am is throwing it around.</p>
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		<title>By: L_Mariachi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493720</link>
		<dc:creator>L_Mariachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough, but be aware that this might backfire on you. &quot;It&#039;s okay for editors to say n* but not the rest of us.&quot; For reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuLrBLxbLxw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough, but be aware that this might backfire on you. &#8220;It&#8217;s okay for editors to say n* but not the rest of us.&#8221; For reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuLrBLxbLxw</p>
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		<title>By: Xyzzy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493657</link>
		<dc:creator>Xyzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 07:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with having a filter (or rule against the n-word&#039;s use), but I also really didn&#039;t care for seeing it used casually in an article when everyone knows the common substitutions for it (even the screenshot has it bleeped out). 

I have to say, though, that it&#039;s disappointing that it&#039;s evidently a-okay to use well-known disability slurs here.  Folks with low IQ or other noticeable disabilities have a long history of those terms being associated with abuse that parallels the reasons we don&#039;t use the n-word.  Even if we assume nobody with a low IQ is reading, their parents/siblings &amp; people with the other impairments are -- plus, using it casually legitimizes/encourages those that use it as a slur.

I don&#039;t think that it&#039;d be a huge difficulty to have a blanket policy covering those slurs, if bans/filters (rather than leading by example) is what BB admin prefers.  We even saw the writer that covered the Swiss athlete being ejected from the Olympics impose the ban upon himself by using alternatives to the r-word; it shouldn&#039;t be much harder to manage with other slurs (or alternately to handle them the same way the other slurs are, e.g. leading by example).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with having a filter (or rule against the n-word&#8217;s use), but I also really didn&#8217;t care for seeing it used casually in an article when everyone knows the common substitutions for it (even the screenshot has it bleeped out). </p>
<p>I have to say, though, that it&#8217;s disappointing that it&#8217;s evidently a-okay to use well-known disability slurs here.  Folks with low IQ or other noticeable disabilities have a long history of those terms being associated with abuse that parallels the reasons we don&#8217;t use the n-word.  Even if we assume nobody with a low IQ is reading, their parents/siblings &amp; people with the other impairments are &#8212; plus, using it casually legitimizes/encourages those that use it as a slur.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that it&#8217;d be a huge difficulty to have a blanket policy covering those slurs, if bans/filters (rather than leading by example) is what BB admin prefers.  We even saw the writer that covered the Swiss athlete being ejected from the Olympics impose the ban upon himself by using alternatives to the r-word; it shouldn&#8217;t be much harder to manage with other slurs (or alternately to handle them the same way the other slurs are, e.g. leading by example).</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493600</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 05:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posts and comments have different rules.  For an editor to use an offensive word that&#039;s key to the post is one thing.  If we open up to it in the comments, every asshole on the web will take advantage of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posts and comments have different rules.  For an editor to use an offensive word that&#8217;s key to the post is one thing.  If we open up to it in the comments, every asshole on the web will take advantage of it.</p>
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		<title>By: L_Mariachi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493534</link>
		<dc:creator>L_Mariachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 03:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no interest in revisiting the old (and settled) debate, but I do suggest that some consistency would be in order. If you have a blanket policy, the blanket has to cover the whole bed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no interest in revisiting the old (and settled) debate, but I do suggest that some consistency would be in order. If you have a blanket policy, the blanket has to cover the whole bed.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493453</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.</p>
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		<title>By: L_Mariachi</title>
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		<dc:creator>L_Mariachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we to understand that Boingboing&#039;s comment policy regarding Those Words has been relaxed?  Given that one of them appears unredacted on a front page post?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we to understand that Boingboing&#8217;s comment policy regarding Those Words has been relaxed?  Given that one of them appears unredacted on a front page post?</p>
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		<title>By: asterios9</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493425</link>
		<dc:creator>asterios9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems more accurate to say that they are staking out a position within a racist society by ironically using a slur.  The word remains racist and it evokes the context of racism.  There is no usage of the word that is entirely free from this context.

(Seriously, pick an instance and explain why you don&#039;t think it is somehow about racism.  It always is.)

This is why the ironic usage doesn&#039;t pass easily to whites like Quentin Tarantino or Gwynnth Paltrow - because they are still evoking a context in which they are privileged and others are not.   That pesky original meaning never actually changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems more accurate to say that they are staking out a position within a racist society by ironically using a slur.  The word remains racist and it evokes the context of racism.  There is no usage of the word that is entirely free from this context.</p>
<p>(Seriously, pick an instance and explain why you don&#8217;t think it is somehow about racism.  It always is.)</p>
<p>This is why the ironic usage doesn&#8217;t pass easily to whites like Quentin Tarantino or Gwynnth Paltrow &#8211; because they are still evoking a context in which they are privileged and others are not.   That pesky original meaning never actually changed.</p>
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		<title>By: oasisob1</title>
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		<dc:creator>oasisob1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why I always bring my $100 super amazing ultra mega universal programmable remote wherever I go.

That and the ones in hotels never have batteries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I always bring my $100 super amazing ultra mega universal programmable remote wherever I go.</p>
<p>That and the ones in hotels never have batteries.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Foster</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493391</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironic this happened at a Motel 6, since it was the first motel chain to allow black people to check-in. To quote the founder &quot;Is their money green?&quot; To keep things in perspective, Motel 6 has the opposite of a history of racism.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironic this happened at a Motel 6, since it was the first motel chain to allow black people to check-in. To quote the founder &#8220;Is their money green?&#8221; To keep things in perspective, Motel 6 has the opposite of a history of racism.  </p>
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		<title>By: PhosPhorious</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493389</link>
		<dc:creator>PhosPhorious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It&#039;s just silly to insist that, as the original poster did, &quot;n****r&quot; is not a slur because black folks use it, and sillier to argue that sometimes it ain&#039;t because context.&quot;

How is it silly to argue that sometimes &quot;n****r&quot; is not a slur because of context?  When rappers use it to describe themselves, don&#039;t we assume that they are NOT being racist?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s just silly to insist that, as the original poster did, &#8220;n****r&#8221; is not a slur because black folks use it, and sillier to argue that sometimes it ain&#8217;t because context.&#8221;</p>
<p>How is it silly to argue that sometimes &#8220;n****r&#8221; is not a slur because of context?  When rappers use it to describe themselves, don&#8217;t we assume that they are NOT being racist?  </p>
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		<title>By: lafave</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493379</link>
		<dc:creator>lafave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that race doesn&#039;t have any biological significance; however, sociologically, it does (race is a social construct, as is ethnicity).  Whether it should is a separate question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that race doesn&#8217;t have any biological significance; however, sociologically, it does (race is a social construct, as is ethnicity).  Whether it should is a separate question.</p>
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		<title>By: David Davion</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Davion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Race shouldn&#039;t apply (scientifically) between the different Species of humans. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Race shouldn&#8217;t apply (scientifically) between the different Species of humans. </p>
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		<title>By: David Davion</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493375</link>
		<dc:creator>David Davion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which is probably what they had, up until the TV broke and in a rush to &quot;fix&quot; it, they just bought a new one from Best Buy.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which is probably what they had, up until the TV broke and in a rush to &#8220;fix&#8221; it, they just bought a new one from Best Buy.  </p>
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		<title>By: Paul Renault</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493363</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Renault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> A few years ago, I was in a motel where one of the previous guests had reprogrammed all the channel names so that they would produce a funny diatribe when you surfed through the channels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> A few years ago, I was in a motel where one of the previous guests had reprogrammed all the channel names so that they would produce a funny diatribe when you surfed through the channels.</p>
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		<title>By: asterios9</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493360</link>
		<dc:creator>asterios9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, that got pulled fast.  The point was that there is still  a persistent shared meaning out there, which the dictionary strives to capture.

Let&#039;s look at the wikipedia definition of pragmatics, shall we?

&quot;Pragmatics is a subfield of linguistics which studies the ways in which context CONTRIBUTES TO meaning. Pragmatics encompassesspeech act theory, conversational implicature, talk in interaction and other approaches to language behavior in philosophy, sociology, and linguistics. It studies how the transmission of meaning depends NOT ONLY only on the linguistic knowledge (e.g. grammar, lexicon etc.) of the speaker and listener, but also on the context of the utterance, knowledge about the status of those involved, the inferred intent of the speaker, and so on.[2]&quot;

Emphases mine, obviously.  Nowhere is the claim made that meaning is entirely dependent on context, but only that context can modify it in interesting ways.  Which I would not deny.

It&#039;s just silly to insist that, as the original poster did, &quot;n****r&quot; is not a slur because black folks use it, and sillier to argue that sometimes it ain&#039;t because context.  Even when reappropriated, it is actually a slur - it retains some of its original connotations.  There&#039;s no happy, sunshiney usage of the n-word that doesn&#039;t evoke a background of oppression and low social status.

My point in claiming that &quot;masturbatory shitstain&quot; was my new term of affection for BB commentators was to illustrate the near impossibility of stripping words of their immediate connotations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, that got pulled fast.  The point was that there is still  a persistent shared meaning out there, which the dictionary strives to capture.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at the wikipedia definition of pragmatics, shall we?</p>
<p>&#8220;Pragmatics is a subfield of linguistics which studies the ways in which context CONTRIBUTES TO meaning. Pragmatics encompassesspeech act theory, conversational implicature, talk in interaction and other approaches to language behavior in philosophy, sociology, and linguistics. It studies how the transmission of meaning depends NOT ONLY only on the linguistic knowledge (e.g. grammar, lexicon etc.) of the speaker and listener, but also on the context of the utterance, knowledge about the status of those involved, the inferred intent of the speaker, and so on.[2]&#8221;</p>
<p>Emphases mine, obviously.  Nowhere is the claim made that meaning is entirely dependent on context, but only that context can modify it in interesting ways.  Which I would not deny.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just silly to insist that, as the original poster did, &#8220;n****r&#8221; is not a slur because black folks use it, and sillier to argue that sometimes it ain&#8217;t because context.  Even when reappropriated, it is actually a slur &#8211; it retains some of its original connotations.  There&#8217;s no happy, sunshiney usage of the n-word that doesn&#8217;t evoke a background of oppression and low social status.</p>
<p>My point in claiming that &#8220;masturbatory shitstain&#8221; was my new term of affection for BB commentators was to illustrate the near impossibility of stripping words of their immediate connotations.</p>
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		<title>By: PhosPhorious</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhosPhorious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yeah, this is actually kind of wrong.&quot;

No, it&#039;s really not.  Language is a social thing.  The whole point is that the meaning of an utterance (as opposed to the meaning of a word) is NOT determined singlehandedly by one person, even if that person writes a dictionary.

I would tell you to google &quot;pragmatics&quot;, but given that you think that believing that language is a social construct makes one a &quot;masturbatory shitstain&quot; means that this conversation can&#039;t really go any further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yeah, this is actually kind of wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s really not.  Language is a social thing.  The whole point is that the meaning of an utterance (as opposed to the meaning of a word) is NOT determined singlehandedly by one person, even if that person writes a dictionary.</p>
<p>I would tell you to google &#8220;pragmatics&#8221;, but given that you think that believing that language is a social construct makes one a &#8220;masturbatory shitstain&#8221; means that this conversation can&#8217;t really go any further.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeGuyNamedMark</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeGuyNamedMark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what happens when Swiss soccer players play with your hotel TV. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what happens when Swiss soccer players play with your hotel TV. </p>
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		<title>By: Listener43</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way I heard it, Joe Ross checked in under the name &quot;N1663r&quot; and the Television was programmed to greet him by name.
Nothing to see here, please move along.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I heard it, Joe Ross checked in under the name &#8220;N1663r&#8221; and the Television was programmed to greet him by name.<br />
Nothing to see here, please move along.</p>
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		<title>By: asterios9</title>
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		<dc:creator>asterios9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The funny thing that people don&#039;t get is that even when black folks reappropriate it, it is still a sort of put-down.  It&#039;s ironic, and perhaps affectionate, to be sure, but it still means &quot;someone of low social status.&quot;  It doesn&#039;t have some entirely different, positive meaning that has been surgically implanted in there.

So yeah, you&#039;ve got two scenarios.

non-black person puts it in there -&gt; it was probably intended to shock and seriously offend

black person puts it in there -&gt; this is more like putting &quot;hey asshole&quot; in, still intended to, in the very least, surprise and annoy.  (We&#039;ll just ignore the fact that the word is usually spelled differently when used this way, which cuts down the odds of this scenario significantly.)

Either way, it doesn&#039;t belong in there.  Either way it&#039;s not exactly interesting news, either.  (Reminds me of those &quot;somebody grabbed the PA and said the N-word&quot; stories that were popping up a few years ago.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funny thing that people don&#8217;t get is that even when black folks reappropriate it, it is still a sort of put-down.  It&#8217;s ironic, and perhaps affectionate, to be sure, but it still means &#8220;someone of low social status.&#8221;  It doesn&#8217;t have some entirely different, positive meaning that has been surgically implanted in there.</p>
<p>So yeah, you&#8217;ve got two scenarios.</p>
<p>non-black person puts it in there -&gt; it was probably intended to shock and seriously offend</p>
<p>black person puts it in there -&gt; this is more like putting &#8220;hey asshole&#8221; in, still intended to, in the very least, surprise and annoy.  (We&#8217;ll just ignore the fact that the word is usually spelled differently when used this way, which cuts down the odds of this scenario significantly.)</p>
<p>Either way, it doesn&#8217;t belong in there.  Either way it&#8217;s not exactly interesting news, either.  (Reminds me of those &#8220;somebody grabbed the PA and said the N-word&#8221; stories that were popping up a few years ago.)</p>
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		<title>By: lafave</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493242</link>
		<dc:creator>lafave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ethnicity&quot; is often just PC for &quot;race&quot; even though the word ethnicity should be talking about cultural background and race describing physical traits.

The post title should be changed to be more accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ethnicity&#8221; is often just PC for &#8220;race&#8221; even though the word ethnicity should be talking about cultural background and race describing physical traits.</p>
<p>The post title should be changed to be more accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: ratcity</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493213</link>
		<dc:creator>ratcity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t you ask them what they think?  Oh wait, these aren&#039;t your friends, they&#039;re just &quot;young men&quot; and &quot;rappers&quot;?  Do your black friends, business associates, and peers use this word constantly?  Do you have any black friends or business associates?  If they don&#039;t use this word &quot;constantly&quot; is that meaningful to you?

The answers to these questions should explain your disingenuous (and/or ignorant) BS.

Please expand on how often you look to young men and women that you don&#039;t know to model good social behavior for you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t you ask them what they think?  Oh wait, these aren&#8217;t your friends, they&#8217;re just &#8220;young men&#8221; and &#8220;rappers&#8221;?  Do your black friends, business associates, and peers use this word constantly?  Do you have any black friends or business associates?  If they don&#8217;t use this word &#8220;constantly&#8221; is that meaningful to you?</p>
<p>The answers to these questions should explain your disingenuous (and/or ignorant) BS.</p>
<p>Please expand on how often you look to young men and women that you don&#8217;t know to model good social behavior for you?</p>
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		<title>By: chgoliz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493134</link>
		<dc:creator>chgoliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eh, forget it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eh, forget it.</p>
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		<title>By: Katrina van Malksvig</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493086</link>
		<dc:creator>Katrina van Malksvig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guilty as charged

assigning bad names to all the TV channels is the first thing I do when I find myself bored in a motel room
very childish, I know</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guilty as charged</p>
<p>assigning bad names to all the TV channels is the first thing I do when I find myself bored in a motel room<br />
very childish, I know</p>
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		<title>By: Navin_Johnson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493087</link>
		<dc:creator>Navin_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Privilege fail.

&lt;i&gt;You see, you&#039;re implying that they&#039;re being hypocritical. That if they are going to use abusive &amp; oppressive language amongst each other, they simply have to accept that they&#039;re employing a &#039;double standard&#039; by preventing the Privileged from using them.

What this enables you to ignore is the reality of the power dynamic involved. Language reclamation is a means by which Marginalized People  gain back some power they are
traditionally denied by taking control of words used to demean and discriminate against them. When these words come from Privileged People, there is a long and very serious negative history behind them that cannot be divorced from the words themselves. Thus, when Privileged People employ these words, they are perpetuating that history and the psychology behind the word. They are exercising oppressive power that have become inherent to those words - a power Marginalized People seek to subvert and dismantle when they use them.

Pretend not to understand this. Just continue to imply hypocrisy and pout that it isn&#039;t fair. 

It also ignores the fact that, from within Marginalized Groups, discourses around abusive language are actually not simple and there are many divided and varied opinions
on the subject. Treating Marginalized People like a hive mind is always a great way to further subtly insult them and since the point of this entire debacle is to come out with as many notches on your belt as possible, you want to make sure you slip in as many knocks below their belt as you can manage.&lt;/i&gt;

http://www.derailingfordummies.com/complete.html#playfair</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Privilege fail.</p>
<p><i>You see, you&#8217;re implying that they&#8217;re being hypocritical. That if they are going to use abusive &amp; oppressive language amongst each other, they simply have to accept that they&#8217;re employing a &#8216;double standard&#8217; by preventing the Privileged from using them.</p>
<p>What this enables you to ignore is the reality of the power dynamic involved. Language reclamation is a means by which Marginalized People  gain back some power they are<br />
traditionally denied by taking control of words used to demean and discriminate against them. When these words come from Privileged People, there is a long and very serious negative history behind them that cannot be divorced from the words themselves. Thus, when Privileged People employ these words, they are perpetuating that history and the psychology behind the word. They are exercising oppressive power that have become inherent to those words &#8211; a power Marginalized People seek to subvert and dismantle when they use them.</p>
<p>Pretend not to understand this. Just continue to imply hypocrisy and pout that it isn&#8217;t fair. </p>
<p>It also ignores the fact that, from within Marginalized Groups, discourses around abusive language are actually not simple and there are many divided and varied opinions<br />
on the subject. Treating Marginalized People like a hive mind is always a great way to further subtly insult them and since the point of this entire debacle is to come out with as many notches on your belt as possible, you want to make sure you slip in as many knocks below their belt as you can manage.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.derailingfordummies.com/complete.html#playfair" rel="nofollow">http://www.derailingfordummies.com/complete.html#playfair</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lobster</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493088</link>
		<dc:creator>Lobster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My weatherman is constantly spouting ethnic slurs.  I think he&#039;s just angry the weekend&#039;s over, because as soon as he gets passed Sunday he&#039;s all &quot;Monday.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My weatherman is constantly spouting ethnic slurs.  I think he&#8217;s just angry the weekend&#8217;s over, because as soon as he gets passed Sunday he&#8217;s all &#8220;Monday.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493078</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Motel 6.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Motel 6.</p>
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		<title>By: retepslluerb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493072</link>
		<dc:creator>retepslluerb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;are supposed&quot;? in which way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;are supposed&#8221;? in which way?</p>
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		<title>By: retepslluerb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/07/30/ethnic-slur-on-hotel-tv.html#comment-1493070</link>
		<dc:creator>retepslluerb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s wrong with NGA-GER? :-)

Also, unfortunate mixups happens. Facebook&#039;s counting DAUs. Lots of Germans wonder if that says something about Facebook&#039;s opinion about their users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s wrong with NGA-GER? :-)</p>
<p>Also, unfortunate mixups happens. Facebook&#8217;s counting DAUs. Lots of Germans wonder if that says something about Facebook&#8217;s opinion about their users.</p>
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