Comments on: HD video from the RX100 http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 23 May 2013 16:20:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Nicky G http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1494533 Nicky G Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:44:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1494533 I'll add that this song by Desire is literally one of my favorites, ever. :-) I’ll add that this song by Desire is literally one of my favorites, ever. :-)

]]> By: Nicky G http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1494531 Nicky G Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1494531 Interchangeable lenses is the number one draw with some of the other systems -- this f1.8 on this might be nice, but it's certainly not as flexible. Granted, I'll stick to my Nikon D800 thank you very much. :) Interchangeable lenses is the number one draw with some of the other systems — this f1.8 on this might be nice, but it’s certainly not as flexible. Granted, I’ll stick to my Nikon D800 thank you very much. :)

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1494465 Antinous / Moderator Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:59:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1494465 Amazon is hilarious. List Price: $649.99 Price: $648.00 You Save: $1.99 Amazon is hilarious.

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]]> By: Peter Green http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1494395 Peter Green Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1494395 "So, let me get this straight. "Bollocks" is bad, whereas "the dog's bollocks" is good, huh?" Samuel L. Jackson, The 51st State “So, let me get this straight. “Bollocks” is bad, whereas “the dog’s bollocks” is good, huh?”

Samuel L. Jackson, The 51st State

]]> By: Cyran0 http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1494336 Cyran0 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1494336 I gave up on Sony after the 'Other OS' Geohotz fiasco. Never updated my 60GB fatboy, just tucked it away in the back of the closet after I bought my gaming laptop. (Hmm, wonder if it'll be a collector's item some day?) I gave up on Sony after the ‘Other OS’ Geohotz fiasco.

Never updated my 60GB fatboy, just tucked it away in the back of the closet after I bought my gaming laptop.
(Hmm, wonder if it’ll be a collector’s item some day?)

]]> By: tedder42 http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1494282 tedder42 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:47:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1494282 Canon isn't "about" to hit with the mirrorless, it's already out there. Here's one mounted to a 800mm lens: http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/eosm800.jpg Canon isn’t “about” to hit with the mirrorless, it’s already out there. Here’s one mounted to a 800mm lens: http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/eosm800.jpg

]]> By: Alex Schneider http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1494203 Alex Schneider Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1494203 I saw "HD" and the dreary overcast weather and assumed it was HDR. I saw “HD” and the dreary overcast weather and assumed it was HDR.

]]> By: James Britt / Neurogami http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1494126 James Britt / Neurogami Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1494126 Is this from the same Sony that sues it's customers and advocates for SOPA, PROTECT-IP, and the like?   Is this from the same Sony that sues it’s customers and advocates for SOPA, PROTECT-IP, and the like?  

]]> By: Noctilucent Studios http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1494030 Noctilucent Studios Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:38:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1494030 Sorry, but if she is "not eating and not sleeping" she is going to be useless if/when the other person finally notices!! Sorry, but if she is “not eating and not sleeping” she is going to be useless if/when the other person finally notices!!

]]> By: Antonio Carrasco http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1494029 Antonio Carrasco Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1494029 I'm sorry Rob, but you're completely backwards on this one... It's the compacts with non-detachable lenses that are done. This one from Sony and the one from Fuji are the last gasp from a dying sector.  Mirrorless has nothing but growth in the future. The way they could have really made this camera a must have is to include phone functionality and an Android OS. The company that can merge this type of high-end point and shoot with a smart phone will be the one to get my money. I’m sorry Rob, but you’re completely backwards on this one… It’s the compacts with non-detachable lenses that are done. This one from Sony and the one from Fuji are the last gasp from a dying sector.  Mirrorless has nothing but growth in the future.

The way they could have really made this camera a must have is to include phone functionality and an Android OS. The company that can merge this type of high-end point and shoot with a smart phone will be the one to get my money.

]]> By: Max http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1493995 Max Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1493995 Almost as good as the mutt's nuts. The dog certainly seems to like them but I'm never really sure where the phrase comes from.  Yes, canine reproductive organs are a good thing. Almost as good as the mutt’s nuts. The dog certainly seems to like them but I’m never really sure where the phrase comes from. 
Yes, canine reproductive organs are a good thing.

]]> By: Andrew Wood http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1493992 Andrew Wood Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1493992 Yes, indeed - the best. See also 'Rat's knackers', 'chicken's titties', etc.  Popularised by Viz, a British adult comic, in the 1980s.   Yes, indeed – the best.
See also ‘Rat’s knackers’, ‘chicken’s titties’, etc.  Popularised by Viz, a British adult comic, in the 1980s.  

]]> By: technogeekagain http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1493980 technogeekagain Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1493980 A friend recently recommended the  Pentax K5 as another APS-C camera in the "smallish camera, large sensor" kind of range -- though it remains a DSLR. And, yeah, I'm a bit less happy with Sony than I once was. A friend recently recommended the  Pentax K5 as another APS-C camera in the “smallish camera, large sensor” kind of range — though it remains a DSLR.

And, yeah, I’m a bit less happy with Sony than I once was.

]]> By: penguinchris http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1493981 penguinchris Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1493981 Must agree that micro 4/3 isn't going anywhere. This camera is certainly amazing, but it isn't a replacement for something with interchangeable lenses.  That said, cameras like this will certainly hurt sales... but I suspect mostly from Sony's NEX cameras, as Rob points out.  I must also agree that the Canon entry isn't going to change anything either. Hopefully they will decide to be a little more bold in the future, because I know they have the capability to make something amazing - with this one, they followed marketing's ideas too much. I do of course say all this as a biased micro 4/3 camera owner who hopes that the format continues for a while ;) I do agree that the low-end micro 4/3 cameras (and whatever Nikon's is in particular) will be hit hard by cameras like this new Sony, but I consider that to be a good thing if that means companies will focus more on the higher-end models. Must agree that micro 4/3 isn’t going anywhere. This camera is certainly amazing, but it isn’t a replacement for something with interchangeable lenses. 

That said, cameras like this will certainly hurt sales… but I suspect mostly from Sony’s NEX cameras, as Rob points out. 

I must also agree that the Canon entry isn’t going to change anything either. Hopefully they will decide to be a little more bold in the future, because I know they have the capability to make something amazing – with this one, they followed marketing’s ideas too much.

I do of course say all this as a biased micro 4/3 camera owner who hopes that the format continues for a while ;) I do agree that the low-end micro 4/3 cameras (and whatever Nikon’s is in particular) will be hit hard by cameras like this new Sony, but I consider that to be a good thing if that means companies will focus more on the higher-end models.

]]> By: Zak McKracken http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1493978 Zak McKracken Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1493978 Rob, calm down! ... sorry, but I didn't hear anyone raving about the RX100. 1080p60 video is a cool thing, having a small camera with a okay-ish-ly large sensor spells bad news for small-sensor compacts, but it won't be able to seriously compete on image quality with APS-C sensors or anything larger, and it is more expensive than those small-sensor compacts. So it pretty much depends on what you want from a camera, I'd say. About the video: I'd be surprised to learn the video was unedited and shot without some sort of steadycam-like rig thing attached to the camera. It's not a bad video, but it does not tell us very much about the camera. About the Canon EOS M: I know a few Canon owners who are dissappointed with it because it is a "beginner's" camera and many people were hoping for something more serious. Whether it will be able to compete with other makes that are established in that market for some time now, remains to be seen. I wouldn't flip out over that camera before the first proper tests are in. I wouldn't be surprised to see some flaws in that camera simply because it's the first mirrorless design from Canon. I think autofocus is pretty much on the slow side, for example. Not that other cameras didn't have flaws but let's not go all fanboy on this thing before we have some proper data. ... Actually, I was hoping for a full format compact mirrorless camera. Rob, calm down!
… sorry, but I didn’t hear anyone raving about the RX100. 1080p60 video is a cool thing, having a small camera with a okay-ish-ly large sensor spells bad news for small-sensor compacts, but it won’t be able to seriously compete on image quality with APS-C sensors or anything larger, and it is more expensive than those small-sensor compacts. So it pretty much depends on what you want from a camera, I’d say.
About the video: I’d be surprised to learn the video was unedited and shot without some sort of steadycam-like rig thing attached to the camera. It’s not a bad video, but it does not tell us very much about the camera.

About the Canon EOS M: I know a few Canon owners who are dissappointed with it because it is a “beginner’s” camera and many people were hoping for something more serious. Whether it will be able to compete with other makes that are established in that market for some time now, remains to be seen. I wouldn’t flip out over that camera before the first proper tests are in. I wouldn’t be surprised to see some flaws in that camera simply because it’s the first mirrorless design from Canon. I think autofocus is pretty much on the slow side, for example. Not that other cameras didn’t have flaws but let’s not go all fanboy on this thing before we have some proper data.
… Actually, I was hoping for a full format compact mirrorless camera.

]]> By: Stevko http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1493968 Stevko Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1493968 It is Sony. That means I am not interested (remember Sony doing bad things with drm malware or with  ps3 crippling). And one thing I miss when I read almost any camera specs is how long can it record video on batteries (although this one seems to be focused on still pictures - I prefer video cameras). It is Sony. That means I am not interested (remember Sony doing bad things with drm malware or with  ps3 crippling).

And one thing I miss when I read almost any camera specs is how long can it record video on batteries (although this one seems to be focused on still pictures – I prefer video cameras).

]]> By: bbonyx http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1493950 bbonyx Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1493950 Great choice from Andrew on the soundtrack. The 80's throwback vibe was the best thing about "Drive". Great choice from Andrew on the soundtrack. The 80′s throwback vibe was the best thing about “Drive”.

]]> By: mccrum http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1493951 mccrum Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1493951  I agree.  If people kept buying compact point and shoots when there were better things out there only slightly larger 4/3 certainly has their niche as well.  I agree.  If people kept buying compact point and shoots when there were better things out there only slightly larger 4/3 certainly has their niche as well.

]]> By: mccrum http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1493949 mccrum Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1493949 You have to wonder why manufacturers limit their products to make people want to buy the more expensive one?  It's terrible policy and you don't have to like it (I certainly don't), but I'm not sure you should wonder about it.  You have to wonder why manufacturers limit their products to make people want to buy the more expensive one? 

It’s terrible policy and you don’t have to like it (I certainly don’t), but I’m not sure you should wonder about it. 

]]> By: billstreeter http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1493926 billstreeter Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1493926 Just wanted to point out the fact that the Sony NEX cams all have APS-C sensors too. And I think the market for the 4/3rds sensors will be strong for a while as they're a lot cheaper than the APS-C sensors. The new Blackmagic Cinema camera has a 4/3rd sensor and by all accounts keeping the costs in check was a major factor in making that choice. Just wanted to point out the fact that the Sony NEX cams all have APS-C sensors too. And I think the market for the 4/3rds sensors will be strong for a while as they’re a lot cheaper than the APS-C sensors. The new Blackmagic Cinema camera has a 4/3rd sensor and by all accounts keeping the costs in check was a major factor in making that choice.

]]> By: Bertrand Cote http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1493913 Bertrand Cote Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1493913 <i>I reckon low-end Micro 4/3 models are done.</i> That's just plain dumb. Really dumb. All other systems have a <i>loooong</i> way to go, glass-wise, and that's where it counts. Duh. I reckon low-end Micro 4/3 models are done.

That’s just plain dumb. Really dumb. All other systems have a loooong way to go, glass-wise, and that’s where it counts. Duh.

]]> By: 10xor01 http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1493912 10xor01 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:58:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1493912 If you're a male dog they are. If you’re a male dog they are.

]]> By: Shadow KFC http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1493903 Shadow KFC Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1493903 I agree with the Rx100 being seriously impressive if a little handicapped (no EV, no hotshoe). I disagree with the Canon EOS-M to be anything interesting. Canon seems horribly afraid to cannibalise their own market so they really made this thing boring. Aside from the (old-gen) APS-C sensor there is just nothing there. Even the questionable fun of using the huge DSLR EOS lenses is an amusing 200$ extra, for an adapter that is worth maybe 50$. IMHO both the established 4/3 and the NEX having nothing to fear.. I agree with the Rx100 being seriously impressive if a little handicapped (no EV, no hotshoe).
I disagree with the Canon EOS-M to be anything interesting. Canon seems horribly afraid to cannibalise their own market so they really made this thing boring. Aside from the (old-gen) APS-C sensor there is just nothing there. Even the questionable fun of using the huge DSLR EOS lenses is an amusing 200$ extra, for an adapter that is worth maybe 50$.
IMHO both the established 4/3 and the NEX having nothing to fear..

]]> By: occula http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1493901 occula Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1493901 "Dog's bollocks" ... is good? “Dog’s bollocks” … is good?

]]> By: dfolmar42 http://boingboing.net/2012/07/31/hd-video-from-the-rx100.html#comment-1493902 dfolmar42 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174043#comment-1493902 You know great color reproduction, love the saturation and the range of blacks...a little miffed that everything was slowed could have liked to have seen the frame rate and how it handled fast motion better... I mean yes great image sensor but how fast is writing process, also as a former video professional, I  have to wonder why everything has an HD camera but the crappiest mic ever, and never any mic  inputs... You know great color reproduction, love the saturation and the range of blacks…a little miffed that everything was slowed could have liked to have seen the frame rate and how it handled fast motion better… I mean yes great image sensor but how fast is writing process, also as a former video professional, I  have to wonder why everything has an HD camera but the crappiest mic ever, and never any mic  inputs…

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