Comments on: Pareidoloop http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Tue, 21 May 2013 21:28:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Guest http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1500013 Guest Tue, 07 Aug 2012 05:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1500013 deleted deleted

]]> By: Rich Keller http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1499362 Rich Keller Mon, 06 Aug 2012 16:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1499362 Some of them remind me of Roger Bacon portraits. They just need slabs of beef in the background. Some of them remind me of Roger Bacon portraits. They just need slabs of beef in the background.

]]> By: merachefet http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1498996 merachefet Mon, 06 Aug 2012 02:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1498996 Seems like this process is coaxing the facial recognition to regurgitate the data it was trained with, meaning these faces are the program's memories of actual specific photographs, or possibly chimera of several different people. I can't decide if that makes it less, or more interesting. Seems like this process is coaxing the facial recognition to regurgitate the data it was trained with, meaning these faces are the program’s memories of actual specific photographs, or possibly chimera of several different people. I can’t decide if that makes it less, or more interesting.

]]> By: MadRat http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1498980 MadRat Mon, 06 Aug 2012 02:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1498980 Poor Philip K. Dick.  Seems no one read (notice I didn't say watched?) A Scanner Darkly. Poor Philip K. Dick.  Seems no one read (notice I didn’t say watched?) A Scanner Darkly.

]]> By: Dlo Burns http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1498958 Dlo Burns Mon, 06 Aug 2012 00:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1498958 fat jesus = jerry garcia fat jesus = jerry garcia

]]> By: Lobster http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1498930 Lobster Sun, 05 Aug 2012 23:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1498930 Holy crap!  It's Jesus!  Jesus lives in the computer! *looks at the next* Holy crap!  It's Jesus! Holy crap!  It’s Jesus!  Jesus lives in the computer!
*looks at the next*
Holy crap!  It’s Jesus!

]]> By: Peer Bentzen http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1498905 Peer Bentzen Sun, 05 Aug 2012 22:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1498905 I like how people don't have fun! I like how people don’t have fun!

]]> By: SmokingHeartDesigns http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1498892 SmokingHeartDesigns Sun, 05 Aug 2012 22:09:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1498892 What about the two-headed?  They didn't get there by themselves. What about the two-headed?  They didn’t get there by themselves.

]]> By: malindrome http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1498889 malindrome Sun, 05 Aug 2012 22:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1498889 But can this device identify German Secretary of the Interior Hans-Peter Freidrich? But can this device identify German Secretary of the Interior Hans-Peter Freidrich?

]]> By: malindrome http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1498887 malindrome Sun, 05 Aug 2012 22:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1498887 "Come with me if you want to lol." “Come with me if you want to lol.”

]]> By: Nathan Hornby http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1498816 Nathan Hornby Sun, 05 Aug 2012 18:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1498816 Is it trying to fool it?  I thought it was supposed to randomly generate poly's until the software recognised a face.  Seems to do what it says on the tin. *shrug* Is it trying to fool it?  I thought it was supposed to randomly generate poly’s until the software recognised a face.  Seems to do what it says on the tin. *shrug*

]]> By: Joseph Francis http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1498812 Joseph Francis Sun, 05 Aug 2012 18:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1498812  Sure, but "nothing to see here, folks" is just what they tell you to keep you moving on.  Sure, but “nothing to see here, folks” is just what they tell you to keep you moving on.

]]> By: James Gurney http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1498802 James Gurney Sun, 05 Aug 2012 17:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1498802 Instead of using face recognition software, it would be even more interesting to channel the multiple generation feedback loop in real time through the face-recognition areas of an individual human's brain. Depending on how you set things up, it could be a hallucinatory experience, leading either to kittens, monsters, familiar faces, or maybe Alfred E. Neuman. Instead of using face recognition software, it would be even more interesting to channel the multiple generation feedback loop in real time through the face-recognition areas of an individual human’s brain. Depending on how you set things up, it could be a hallucinatory experience, leading either to kittens, monsters, familiar faces, or maybe Alfred E. Neuman.

]]> By: Glen Able http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1498784 Glen Able Sun, 05 Aug 2012 16:01:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1498784 Waiter!  There's a face in my triangle soup! Waiter!  There’s a face in my triangle soup!

]]> By: cellocgw http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1498782 cellocgw Sun, 05 Aug 2012 15:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1498782 I agree with above -- any algorithm that builds on the weighting, or score, from the tool it's claiming to "fool" is just demonstrating standard relaxation or hill-climbing techniques.  From a math and software point of view,  *nothing to see here, folks.*   I agree with above — any algorithm that builds on the weighting, or score, from the tool it’s claiming to “fool” is just demonstrating standard relaxation or hill-climbing techniques.  From a math and software point of view,  *nothing to see here, folks.*  

]]> By: methodius http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1498776 methodius Sun, 05 Aug 2012 15:38:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1498776 Some of these are better than graphics from the original Max Payne. Some of these are better than graphics from the original Max Payne.

]]> By: EvilTerran http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1498774 EvilTerran Sun, 05 Aug 2012 15:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1498774 Yeah, that sounds to me like a genetic algorithm on images, where the fitness score is the facial recognition algorithm's confidence value. Yeah, that sounds to me like a genetic algorithm on images, where the fitness score is the facial recognition algorithm’s confidence value.

]]> By: fuzzyfuzzyfungus http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1498769 fuzzyfuzzyfungus Sun, 05 Aug 2012 15:05:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1498769 Given the nightmare fuel that this mechanism generates, I'm not sure that an overwhelming influx of the uncanny valley's most unadoptable cat larvae will paralyze the world of the humans through <em>cuteness</em>... Given the nightmare fuel that this mechanism generates, I’m not sure that an overwhelming influx of the uncanny valley’s most unadoptable cat larvae will paralyze the world of the humans through cuteness…

]]> By: bcsizemo http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1498767 bcsizemo Sun, 05 Aug 2012 15:01:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1498767 Version 2 will upgrade the facial recognition system from finding humans to finding cute kittehs.  Which will be promptly uploaded to one of the various kitteh repositories.  Such an influx of cuteness will decrease productivity and bring the internet to a crawl.  Soon after Skynet will go live. Version 2 will upgrade the facial recognition system from finding humans to finding cute kittehs.  Which will be promptly uploaded to one of the various kitteh repositories.  Such an influx of cuteness will decrease productivity and bring the internet to a crawl.  Soon after Skynet will go live.

]]> By: Kent http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1498766 Kent Sun, 05 Aug 2012 14:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1498766 It looks like the software detects something that looks like a face and then keeps the face-like aspects and then randomly generates more lines until it looks even more like a face than it did before, and so repeat.  So really it's not surprising that at the end of the day it's going to look like a face.  In Richard Dawkins' book *The Blind Watchmaker*, many years ago, he had a computer program turn randomly branching trees into things that looked like specific animals. So I'm not sure what, if anything, this one shows. The description says: "What happens if you write software that generates random polygons and the software then feeds the results through facial recognition software, looping thousands of times until the generated image more and more resembles a face? Pareidoloop. Above, my results from running it for a few hours. Spooky."  It's not clear to me what the 'looping' consists of. It looks like the software detects something that looks like a face and then keeps the face-like aspects and then randomly generates more lines until it looks even more like a face than it did before, and so repeat. 
So really it’s not surprising that at the end of the day it’s going to look like a face.  In Richard Dawkins’ book *The Blind Watchmaker*, many years ago, he had a computer program turn randomly branching trees into things that looked like specific animals. So I’m not sure what, if anything, this one shows.

The description says: “What happens if you write software that generates random polygons and the software then feeds the results through facial recognition software, looping thousands of times until the generated image more and more resembles a face? Pareidoloop. Above, my results from running it for a few hours. Spooky.”

 It’s not clear to me what the ‘looping’ consists of.

]]> By: tristan eldritch http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1498762 tristan eldritch Sun, 05 Aug 2012 14:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1498762 I think Robert Anton Wilson would have liked the world "Pareidoloop" - he might have adopted it as a new name for the universe. I think Robert Anton Wilson would have liked the world “Pareidoloop” – he might have adopted it as a new name for the universe.

]]> By: fuzzyfuzzyfungus http://boingboing.net/2012/08/05/pareidoloop.html#comment-1498759 fuzzyfuzzyfungus Sun, 05 Aug 2012 14:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=174907#comment-1498759 Will version 2 have a feature that identifies instances of jesus and attempts to ebay them to goldenpalace? Will version 2 have a feature that identifies instances of jesus and attempts to ebay them to goldenpalace?

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