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Interview with developer of 2MP cameras taking those amazing Mars photos on the Curiosity rover

Xeni Jardin at 10:28 am Fri, Aug 10, 2012

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As regular readers of this blog will recall, I asked a question of the Mars Curiosity team about imaging technologies during the post-landing press conference at NASA JPL a few days ago.

Related: Digital Photography Review now has an interview with the Mars rover camera project manager. Above, the 34mm (115mm equiv.) Mastcam from the Curiosity rover. This was developed by Mike Ravine and his team at Malin Space Science Systems, a contractor for NASA. Ravine explains how they developed the 2MP main imaging cameras used to transmit those breathtaking images back from Mars.

The slow data rates available for broadcasting images back to Earth and the team's familiarity with that family of sensors played a part, says [Ravine], but the biggest factor was the specifications being fixed as far back as 2004. Multi-shot panoramas will see the cameras deliver high-res images, he explains, but not the 3D movies Hollywood director James Cameron had wanted.

'There's a popular belief that projects like this are going to be very advanced but there are things that mitigate against that. These designs were proposed in 2004, and you don't get to propose one specification and then go off and develop something else. 2MP with 8GB of flash [memory] didn't sound too bad in 2004. But it doesn't compare well to what you get in an iPhone today.'

(thanks, Michael Kammes)

Boing Boing editor/partner and tech culture journalist Xeni Jardin hosts and produces Boing Boing's in-flight TV channel on Virgin America airlines (#10 on the dial), and writes about living with breast cancer. Diagnosed in 2011. @xeni on Twitter. email: xeni@boingboing.net.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/sean.westcott Sean M Westcott

    some how I also think that 
    2MP sensor is not a tiny little thing lots of pixels are nice but a nice big sensor is better if done correctly 

    • nixiebunny

      You can be sure that it’s a much larger chip than your phone contains.
      Here’s a story about a camera used in a similar mission; the PDF data sheet is linked by the article.
      http://www.popphoto.com/gear/2011/08/kodak-to-send-2mp-sensor-to-space-to-photograph-jupiter
      If you type KAI-2020 into Google’ the first hit (for me) is a big PDF data sheet with all sorts of juicy details.

  • Josh Bisker

    Not using the latest tech also has the advantage of giving you a few years of world-wide trouble-shooting on your device and its software before you, you know, launch the thing into space; no emergency firmware upgrades required one week after launch and all.

    Still, you’d think there’d be precedent for putting in some kind of designer’s escape clauses, where they say, “if the project has not launched in four years, then the optical and memory systems may be reassessed to include more powerful technologies not considered feasible at the time of the original proposal.” But I guess then you never get off the ground, because each part of your rover’s tech build leap-frogs itself into total stagnation.

    • http://www.matthewpetty.com/ Matthew Petty

      That’s what’s called “performance requirements” rather than being specific about specs. 

  • http://www.rickhargett.com techbuzz

    Here’s a much better version of the Curiosity self-portrait (MySpace angle!) stitched together by an individual; this was posted in a Fark thread yesterday.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithgabryelski/7747623468/sizes/o/in/photostream/ 

  • http://www.facebook.com/jkonrath Jon Konrath

    The rover camera uses the KAI-2020 sensor, which is a 7.4 um x 7.4 um pixel size.  The iPhone 4s uses a sensor with 1.4 um x 1.4 um per pixel.  When you lower the pixel size, you increase noise, lower detail, and lower dynamic range.  You might think your phone’s 8MP camera is four times better than the ones on the rover, but it’s more like five times worse.

  • Max

    I still can’t believe they didn’t use a colour camera.

    • Sanjaya Kumar

      There are seventeen cameras on board. Some are color, others are not.

      http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/multimedia/malin-4.html

    • nixiebunny

      Being an American mission, they would never use a colour camera. Color, perhaps.

    • penguinchris

      The camera has RGB (and other) filters that rotate in front of it at some point in the chain. Three B&W photos with those filters can be combined into the color images that we see – at higher color fidelity than the method that native color sensors use.

  • http://orbitnet.com JIMWICh

    >> “you don’t get to propose one specification and then go off and develop something else.”

    Um, this kind of thinking always bothers me.  It sets up a false either/or premise.  As if components of a long-term project that are *known to be under accelerated development* cannot be anticipated and planned for, so that, you know, you don’t end up with a $2 Billion dollar mission with an eight-year-old (ancient) camera spec.