Neo-Nazi MEP from Hungary discovers he is Jewish

A Hungarian neo-Nazi leader has had to retire from professional antisemitism because he discovered he was Jewish. Csanad Szegedi, who had decried "Jewishness" in Hungary's political class, and referred to Jews as "lice-infested, dirty murderers," was outed by a rival within the neo-Nazi movement, who revealed that Szegedi's maternal grandmother was a Jewish Auschwitz survivor, making him Jewish as well. From an AP story in the NYT:

The fallout of Szegedi's ancestry saga has extended to his business interests. Jobbik executive director Gabor Szabo is pulling out of an Internet site selling nationalist Hungarian merchandise that he owns with Szegedi. Szabo said his sister has resigned as Szegedi's personal assistant.

In the 2010 tape, former convict Zoltan Ambrus is heard telling Szegedi that he has documents proving Szegedi is Jewish. The right-wing politician seems genuinely surprised by the news — and offers EU funds and a possible EU job to Ambrus to hush it up.

Ambrus, who served time in prison on a weapons and explosives conviction, apparently rejected the bribes. He said he secretly taped the conversation as part of an internal Jobbik power struggle aimed at ousting Szegedi from a local party leadership post. The party's reaction was swift.

Hungary Far-Right Leader Discovers Jewish Roots


  1. Classic. Reminds me of the Chapelle sketch about the blind Klansman who doesn’t realize he’s black.

  2. Ooh, kicked out of the neo-nazis and very unlikely to be welcome at the next meeting of the international zionist jew money cabal… Awkward.

    1. Hmmmm, doesn’t leave many options for World Domination does it? He sounds a bit infra-dig for the Bilderbergers as well. UN Black Helicopter Pilot maybe? ;)

        1. Actually, I think they’re looking for escaped Grey/abductee hybrids but are flown by clones of brainwashable recruits grown off the cells they scrape from the barbed wire in those “training scenarios.”  Make ’em smart and they run away, not towards conflict.  Just sayin’.

        1. Sorry. I suffer a sick compulsion to remind people of Alanis Morissette whenever they use that word. And yes, I realize the examples in her song weren’t accurate depictions, which is itself rather ironic.

          Dontcha think?

          1. Alanis also realises it, and is now thoroughly educated in the meaning of the word.  And is, I think, justifiably annoyed that people still haven’t let this one go.

            Move on.

            (Flicks up, reviews article, pauses to bask in schadenfreude.)

          2. Alanis also realises it, and is now thoroughly educated in the meaning of the word.

            She’s Canadian. Who knows what goes on in their heads.

          3. I heard a drop of gossip that Mrs. Reynolds is a shrewd stock holder in various venues. Good for her.  

  3. This came as a shock to Szegedi, who having been blind since birth, also had to learn on the same day that he was actually Black, as his maternal grand father was of Black African heritage.

    His fellow Nazi party members simply couldn’t bring themselves to break it to the Black
    Jewish Neonazi.

    More as the story develops.

    1. I’ll just leave this here…

      (Pic is from Vonnegut’s Mother Night, great flick, and do read the book.)

      1. Loved the book first, then loved the movie. Nolte also did a film version of Breakfast of Champions, and I read somewhere that Vonnegut, when asked if Nolte was going to do any more adaptations of his books, replied, “No, I think I’ve ruined his career enough.”

  4. He presumably now believes he is is part of a great conspiracy, with access to inordinate wealth and power. He should be overjoyed.

    1. I agree, we, at least you and me, don’t want him. 

      However, the feeling shadenfreude  within me is somewhat greater than the feeling of not wanting him.

  5. Nobody is asking the important question: How does this affect the nationalist Hungarian merchandise market?

  6. This kind of thing (foaming anti-Semite is Jewish, oops) has happened a couple of times and every time I have to wonder at how disappointed they are when they realize it’s not a huge conspiracy with the banks, media, &c. The cognitive dissonance must be profound–to go from rabid hatred of a cabal, to being in the cabal, to realizing /there is no cabal/. It’s operatic.

    1.  I suspect it is a lot like the foaming anti-gay activists who get caught having gay sex.  They maybe knew the whole time they were huge liars, but their self loathing just fed the flames.

      1. Jim Bakker PTL caught with his pants down… after it broke free from the closet. 

    1.  Right: “oh what, those Neo-Nazis sure sound like a lot of backstabbing jerks, I wouldn’t want to be friends with them.”  Oh wait, I would never be friends with them ever!

    2. Like orcs, if they spot you, they’ll forget their disagreements until they’ve taken care of you.

      1. Yes, I did a double take too, but I knew it couldn’t be him ’cause he’s not that sort of guy. That, and the fact he passed in 1982. 

  7. This makes very little sense. Of course, Neo Nazis aren’t exactly the most rational people around. Since he’s obviously not a follower of the religion, nor is he culturally Jewish, and since it’s not a genetic trait, the only way he could be considered Jewish is if he believed Jewish law on the matter. So why would Neo Nazis respect Jewish law of any sort?

      1. Exactly. Stupid inbreeders are still obsessed with “racial purity” as if that was a thing. The nazi master plan seems to be:

        1) kill or exile all the brown people
        2) marry your cousin
        3) ?
        4) master race of pasty-faced blond retards

    1. Under Jewish law he would have to have a Jewish mother. Israeli law considers anyone with one Jewish grandparent Jewish for the purposes of immigration and as such he would have more rights in Palestine than a Palestinian.

  8. Reminds me of Dave Chapple’s character of a blind black man who was part of a white power group.

    Here is what I find as sweet irony. Purity of bloodline is sooooo important to these NeoNazis. But every white man has Neanderthal DNA – while Africans do not. So blacks are more “pure” human wise than any neo nazi.

  9. They found out recently that one of the candidates for the British Nazi… sorry, British Nationalist Party had fought on the Argentine side in the Falklands War. I thought that was pretty funny, also. :D

    1. Somehow I find this far more delightful, ironic and Schadenfreude-tastic than the classic Jewish-neonazi one. (although the latter rarely gets old either.)

      1. Because Daily Mail readers regard the Falklands War as practically as important as WWI and WWII combined?

  10. I understand the “rule” but I never believed that just having a Jewish grandmother makes you Jewish any more than having a vegetarian mom makes you a vegetarian.  If he went to temple, followed the faith etc that would be different.

    Still, classic irony.

    1. Are you actually hoping for anything connected to racial prejudices and religious tradition to make consistent sense?

    2. @Michael – Whatever your view of the theological underpinnings, this rule makes an enormous amount of sense as a cultural matter.  If you are Jewish through your mother, the population cannot be forced out of existence through forced marriage, rape, or any other of that sort of awfulness.

    3. There are two aspects to being Jewish: religious and genetic.  You can be one (either one) without the other.  You can also be both, obviously.

      He has Jewish markers in his genome even if he never sets foot inside a synagogue.  Hence the revulsion his former pals have for him, now that they know: Ewwww…cooties.

        1. Actually, yes, there kinda are. Ashkenaz in particular are a surprisingly tightly related genetic group, with an unusually low rate of male genetic admixture in particular.  One recent study suggests that we’re almost all, effectively, ‘cousins’ as far as genetic similarity goes.

          (This has some notable downsides, such as the famously high prevalence of Tay-Sachs disease in the population.)

          There’s still a lot of research being done on this; most of the relevant papers are from the last decade or so.

          (The Jewish custom of tracing descent matrilineally helps here, as it makes the family genetic record much more reliable than for comparable cultures.)

    4. Judaism is a Relegion.  Jewish is a heritage.  One practices Judaism, but one does not practice being Jewish.  Consider all the people who identify themselves as Jews but who are staunch atheists. 

  11. That would have been awful for his grandmother, but they must not have been in contact if he didn’t know he was Jewish. I hope she never found out that her grandson was a Neo-Nazi.

  12. I met a white guy at the gym a few weeks back who apparently failed to realise that the tattoos on his arms were all symbols of the “5% Nation of Gods And Earths”, which last time I checked was a heretical Islamic black supremacist cult. 

    1. I bet this guy is in for an even more awkward experience at the tattoo parlor. It’s not easy to turn a swastika into a Star of David.

      1. Actually, it _is_ quite easy. I do it all the time with the swastikas scratched on walls of elevators, or drawn on walls. :)
        Btw, afterwards, Szegedi contacted one of Hungary’s most famous rabbis, to find out what’s this whole Judaism shit is all about. Needless to say, rabbi was surprised.

          1. The original might have worked if they had done an overlap instead of a merge in the center.

          2. @Antinous_Moderator:disqus : Maybe so… but who are we to Art-Direct a race of omnipotent interstellar beings?

          3. We’re only creating metaphorical representations of the archetypes that they send us, so no problem.

    2. The Gods don’t consider themselves to be Muslim, normally, with a few exceptions. There have been a few white members, such as Azrael Wisdom, but, yeah, irony.

  13. The neo-nazis began to suspect something when, after a dinner party consisting of pork goulash with rice, Szegedi complained in his best Woody Allen’s mother’s accent, “Oh, the food was horrible!  And the portions were so small…”

    When your name is a punchline, you are living in hell.
    Szegedi is living in a hell-on-Earth of his own creation right now, with an added twist – because of his utterly forgettable name, the jokes are coming out with “he” or utilizing the copy-paste function.

    BTW, do you know what other nazi had a Jewish grandparent? *ducks*

  14. Sometimes these things are amusing to me and other times they filter through to real feelings and a profound sadness. I’m Jewish. I know a lot of people hate me without knowing anything about me or the religion. Lately, I found myself watching some heart-breaking Holocaust documentaries, followed by a browse through a handful of Holocaust denial websites. So much unnecessary destruction and suffering. I struggle with my own prejudices too, of course. What the hell’s wrong with us that we can’t grow out of this Us and Them mentality? I don’t mean to sound overly groovy, but shouldn’t the race we care about be the human race? fuck it.

  15. And to think I was watching The Infidel just the other day… 
    Plot: middle-aged British Muslim (intepreted by British-Iranian comedian Omid Djalili) finds out he was actually adopted, and that his biological parents were Jewish. At the same time, he’s forced to deal with Islamist extremists gate-crashing his family life. There’s Richard Schiff (“Toby Ziegler” in The West Wing) in a supporting role cracking killer jokes, and the whole movie is a feelgood, intelligent take on modern Britain, much sweeter than the hugely overrated “Four Lions”.

    1. ‘Leon the pig farmer” is another good one.  Jewish man in London discovers there was a clerical error at the sperm bank, and his biological father is a pig farmer in Yorkshire.  Charming awkwardness ensues.

  16. This smacks of Arthur Miller’s novel ‘Focus’ (the only novel ever published by Miller) where we read Mr.Newman vs Mr.Filkenstein. Great read.

  17. Y’all think it’s funny. 
    What if he had been a Jew, finding out one day he was really a Neo-Nazi?

    1. Related dilemma:,2888/

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