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	<title>Comments on: Man in a coma is &quot;fit for work,&quot; loses disability&#160;benefits</title>
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		<title>By: Loren Pechtel</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1514180</link>
		<dc:creator>Loren Pechtel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 20:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most people on here seem to have missed the point about what really happened.

They didn&#039;t kick the guy off benefits despite the coma.  Rather, they gave the wrong place to submit the paperwork and then kicked him off when the paperwork wasn&#039;t submitted to the right place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people on here seem to have missed the point about what really happened.</p>
<p>They didn&#8217;t kick the guy off benefits despite the coma.  Rather, they gave the wrong place to submit the paperwork and then kicked him off when the paperwork wasn&#8217;t submitted to the right place.</p>
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		<title>By: Loren Pechtel</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1514176</link>
		<dc:creator>Loren Pechtel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 20:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not going to get the medical exams done any faster by turning them down and forcing them to prove it rather than simply calling them in to prove it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not going to get the medical exams done any faster by turning them down and forcing them to prove it rather than simply calling them in to prove it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Hornby</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1512889</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Hornby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 16:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth I probably meant a combination of efficacy/efficiency - and when I say efficiency I mean not taking a year to plan spending £60m on a shiny swingset to modernise an area - not forcing employees to work through their lunch breaks.  There are different grades.

Also, as mentioned further down, I was of course exaggerating a little as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth I probably meant a combination of efficacy/efficiency &#8211; and when I say efficiency I mean not taking a year to plan spending £60m on a shiny swingset to modernise an area &#8211; not forcing employees to work through their lunch breaks.  There are different grades.</p>
<p>Also, as mentioned further down, I was of course exaggerating a little as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie B</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1512877</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 16:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Human enterprises are inefficient, and this is generally a good thing.  You don&#039;t want the farmers to harvest every seed with perfect efficiency, and you don&#039;t want the corporations to exploit every worker with perfect efficiency.  Unless you&#039;re some kind of sadist who would prefer to see children chained to the machines and fed only gruel.

People used to understand this.  They used to beat the rice grains on the side of the canoe so that some were certain to fall back into the water and propagate without direct human intervention, following their own evolutionary patterns instead of human ideas of efficiency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Human enterprises are inefficient, and this is generally a good thing.  You don&#8217;t want the farmers to harvest every seed with perfect efficiency, and you don&#8217;t want the corporations to exploit every worker with perfect efficiency.  Unless you&#8217;re some kind of sadist who would prefer to see children chained to the machines and fed only gruel.</p>
<p>People used to understand this.  They used to beat the rice grains on the side of the canoe so that some were certain to fall back into the water and propagate without direct human intervention, following their own evolutionary patterns instead of human ideas of efficiency.</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1512679</link>
		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; I see it as a flawed system incapable of handling various parts of society yet still it controls all sectors of our society - its not some evil dudes in a room thinking how they screw us over.&lt;/blockquote&gt;False dilemma.  There&#039;s no contradiction in believing both these things to be true.

What exactly is so hard to believe about evil dudes in a room scheming to screw everyone over?  It&#039;s not like it would be anything new.  Evil dudes privately scheming to screw everyone over is like the major constant in human history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> I see it as a flawed system incapable of handling various parts of society yet still it controls all sectors of our society &#8211; its not some evil dudes in a room thinking how they screw us over.</p></blockquote>
<p>False dilemma.  There&#8217;s no contradiction in believing both these things to be true.</p>
<p>What exactly is so hard to believe about evil dudes in a room scheming to screw everyone over?  It&#8217;s not like it would be anything new.  Evil dudes privately scheming to screw everyone over is like the major constant in human history.</p>
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		<title>By: Wreckrob8</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1512548</link>
		<dc:creator>Wreckrob8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 08:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Companies can choose their customers, governments and councils cannot. There are statutory obligations to make services accessible to as many people as possible for government which increases costs and bureaucracy. Companies at present have only limited obligations to have strategies in place for accommodating all potential users should such a need arise. Efficiency is not always the right tool for evaluating different types of organisation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Companies can choose their customers, governments and councils cannot. There are statutory obligations to make services accessible to as many people as possible for government which increases costs and bureaucracy. Companies at present have only limited obligations to have strategies in place for accommodating all potential users should such a need arise. Efficiency is not always the right tool for evaluating different types of organisation.</p>
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		<title>By: yadayada</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1512527</link>
		<dc:creator>yadayada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 05:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What  I don&#039;t understand is why they contracted to a French company. Doesn&#039;t the UK have perfectly good prisoners who could do this work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What  I don&#8217;t understand is why they contracted to a French company. Doesn&#8217;t the UK have perfectly good prisoners who could do this work?</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Hornby</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1512356</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Hornby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 22:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:)

For what it&#039;s worth I don&#039;t remember using it on BB before, but I had in mind a particular scene in Frasier which led to its use, for whatever reason.  I&#039;m pretty sure it means what I think it means though, &quot;amusing in an odd way&quot; according to the internet.  I was exaggerating in a way that would have involved smiling and the odd arm nudge, had the conversation taken place physically, that is.  Online conversations suck for subtlety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:)</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth I don&#8217;t remember using it on BB before, but I had in mind a particular scene in Frasier which led to its use, for whatever reason.  I&#8217;m pretty sure it means what I think it means though, &#8220;amusing in an odd way&#8221; according to the internet.  I was exaggerating in a way that would have involved smiling and the odd arm nudge, had the conversation taken place physically, that is.  Online conversations suck for subtlety.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1512342</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;m just being droll&lt;/blockquote&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I&#8217;m just being droll</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk</a></p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1512339</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 21:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Companies have someone to answer to every 12 months.&lt;/blockquote&gt;They answer to themselves, their parents, spouses, children and in-laws.  Privately owned companies don&#039;t have to answer to anybody.  Publicly traded companies answer to the board, not to the little people who bought stock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Companies have someone to answer to every 12 months.</p></blockquote>
<p>They answer to themselves, their parents, spouses, children and in-laws.  Privately owned companies don&#8217;t have to answer to anybody.  Publicly traded companies answer to the board, not to the little people who bought stock.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1512336</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 20:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re just a meme machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re just a meme machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1512333</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Only if we roll back minimum wage laws that prevent humans from competing against bags of sand in the global jobs market.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Imprison him for benefits fraud, then take the job away from the bags of sand and give it to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Only if we roll back minimum wage laws that prevent humans from competing against bags of sand in the global jobs market.</p></blockquote>
<p>Imprison him for benefits fraud, then take the job away from the bags of sand and give it to him.</p>
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		<title>By: lasershark</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1512319</link>
		<dc:creator>lasershark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>atos staff in france have been complaining about how the dwp contract in the uk is carried out. best i can do with a quick google:

http://sudatosorigin.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/atos-healthcare-en-grande-bretagne-un.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>atos staff in france have been complaining about how the dwp contract in the uk is carried out. best i can do with a quick google:</p>
<p><a href="http://sudatosorigin.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/atos-healthcare-en-grande-bretagne-un.html" rel="nofollow">http://sudatosorigin.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/atos-healthcare-en-grande-bretagne-un.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: lafave</title>
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		<dc:creator>lafave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or an example of  the banality of evil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or an example of  the banality of evil</p>
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		<title>By: bjacques</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1512275</link>
		<dc:creator>bjacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I didn&#039;t know that. But they could still blame Labour and make a show of fixing the mess. Unlikely, I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I didn&#8217;t know that. But they could still blame Labour and make a show of fixing the mess. Unlikely, I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Wreckrob8</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1512274</link>
		<dc:creator>Wreckrob8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was the Thatcher government which started moving people over to sickness benefits to reduce the unemployment figures.  Their policies were at least partly responsible for the rise in unemployment and relieving individuals of their responsibility for their situation was the pay-off. The problem goes back much further than the previous government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was the Thatcher government which started moving people over to sickness benefits to reduce the unemployment figures.  Their policies were at least partly responsible for the rise in unemployment and relieving individuals of their responsibility for their situation was the pay-off. The problem goes back much further than the previous government.</p>
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		<title>By: bjacques</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1512258</link>
		<dc:creator>bjacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Acknowledge the mistaken policy, which ought to be easy to do, since it was the previous government that did it.

2. Put some effort into reversing the damage.

Yeah, good luck with either one.

@NathanHornby:disqus 

Democracies answer to voters every few years
Businesses answer to someone every business quarter. That someone isn&#039;t you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Acknowledge the mistaken policy, which ought to be easy to do, since it was the previous government that did it.</p>
<p>2. Put some effort into reversing the damage.</p>
<p>Yeah, good luck with either one.</p>
<p>@NathanHornby:disqus </p>
<p>Democracies answer to voters every few years<br />
Businesses answer to someone every business quarter. That someone isn&#8217;t you.</p>
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		<title>By: phead</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1512250</link>
		<dc:creator>phead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 16:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets get some facts into this, people were moved onto disability to fudge the employment stats for many years, so we ended up with something approaching half of all claimants being fit to work.

The problem is how you get out of that situation, its simple, everyone who gets assessed gets turned down.  Real disabled people have to get more evidence and claim again, everyone who isn&#039;t gets down the job centre.  Cruel and heartless yes, but what else could you do?  Give full medicals to everyone, that would take 30 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets get some facts into this, people were moved onto disability to fudge the employment stats for many years, so we ended up with something approaching half of all claimants being fit to work.</p>
<p>The problem is how you get out of that situation, its simple, everyone who gets assessed gets turned down.  Real disabled people have to get more evidence and claim again, everyone who isn&#8217;t gets down the job centre.  Cruel and heartless yes, but what else could you do?  Give full medicals to everyone, that would take 30 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Guido</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 16:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, poor thing, he was just following orders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, poor thing, he was just following orders.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Sissons</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1512248</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Sissons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 16:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@boingboing-3741b1f2d6683c4241e972810b25d599:disqus  It&#039;s 25. But it&#039;s still terrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@boingboing-3741b1f2d6683c4241e972810b25d599:disqus  It&#8217;s 25. But it&#8217;s still terrible.</p>
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		<title>By: Purplecat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1512235</link>
		<dc:creator>Purplecat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 15:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/aug/14/disability-hate-crime-increase-reported-incidents-data 

Yeah, he&#039;s really not making this up. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/aug/14/disability-hate-crime-increase-reported-incidents-data" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/aug/14/disability-hate-crime-increase-reported-incidents-data</a> </p>
<p>Yeah, he&#8217;s really not making this up. </p>
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		<title>By: Fang Xianfu</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1512226</link>
		<dc:creator>Fang Xianfu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 15:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re still aiming at the wrong target slightly. These days, business process design  tends to be delegated to mid-level managers and their immediate subordinates - I know, I&#039;ve been one of those subordinates. The people that design the process create the best thing they can to meet the objectives that they&#039;re set - you&#039;re right that it&#039;s the ministers and executives who set those objectives and get it wrong, though. They just have an extra avenue to cover their asses, then - the mid-level manager&#039;s job was to tell them that the process wouldn&#039;t work!

And sometimes of course, failure for executives to agree between themselves on objectives, and divisions therefore pulling in different directions, can cause further problems (that should ideally be cleared up by the MD or CEO - assuming they can be made to care).

So yeah, it&#039;s a mess - but don&#039;t blame the poor Business Analysts who just did their course and want to do a job :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re still aiming at the wrong target slightly. These days, business process design  tends to be delegated to mid-level managers and their immediate subordinates &#8211; I know, I&#8217;ve been one of those subordinates. The people that design the process create the best thing they can to meet the objectives that they&#8217;re set &#8211; you&#8217;re right that it&#8217;s the ministers and executives who set those objectives and get it wrong, though. They just have an extra avenue to cover their asses, then &#8211; the mid-level manager&#8217;s job was to tell them that the process wouldn&#8217;t work!</p>
<p>And sometimes of course, failure for executives to agree between themselves on objectives, and divisions therefore pulling in different directions, can cause further problems (that should ideally be cleared up by the MD or CEO &#8211; assuming they can be made to care).</p>
<p>So yeah, it&#8217;s a mess &#8211; but don&#8217;t blame the poor Business Analysts who just did their course and want to do a job :)</p>
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		<title>By: Fang Xianfu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fang Xianfu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 15:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;https://xkcd.com/285/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;[citation_needed]&lt;a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: atimoshenko</title>
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		<dc:creator>atimoshenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 14:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fish rots from the head. Average government workers are usually knowledgeable, hard-working, and well-meaning. Average employees of a large corporation are usually knowledgeable, hard-working, and well-meaning. The people who DESIGN the rules and regulations, however, for ANY large organisation (governmental, private, MNO) are so out of their depth that they are not even able to realise that they are out of their depth.

Everyone who processed the paperwork attached to this case, I am sure, followed the rules competently and exactly. It&#039;s just that the rules were stupidly designed and entirely inflexible (because – you know – empowering the peons seems dangerous). Some ministerial advisor or corporate VP is unintentionally and indirectly, but solely responsible for this. The problem is that we have long since stopped tying power and remuneration to responsibility, but the solution is not to try to raise responsibility accordingly, but to lower power and remuneration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fish rots from the head. Average government workers are usually knowledgeable, hard-working, and well-meaning. Average employees of a large corporation are usually knowledgeable, hard-working, and well-meaning. The people who DESIGN the rules and regulations, however, for ANY large organisation (governmental, private, MNO) are so out of their depth that they are not even able to realise that they are out of their depth.</p>
<p>Everyone who processed the paperwork attached to this case, I am sure, followed the rules competently and exactly. It&#8217;s just that the rules were stupidly designed and entirely inflexible (because – you know – empowering the peons seems dangerous). Some ministerial advisor or corporate VP is unintentionally and indirectly, but solely responsible for this. The problem is that we have long since stopped tying power and remuneration to responsibility, but the solution is not to try to raise responsibility accordingly, but to lower power and remuneration.</p>
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		<title>By: As_expected</title>
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		<dc:creator>As_expected</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If any readers are new to this story and unfamiliar with the background to welfare &#039;reforms&#039; in the UK, may I suggest the following two personal blogs as the best sources of information:

First, Sue Marsh: http://diaryofabenefitscrounger.blogspot.co.uk/

Second, Kaliya Franklin: http://benefitscroungingscum.blogspot.co.uk/

They are both disabled, both activists, and they and their network know more about this subject than most.

In addition, read http://calumslist.org/ which lists deaths that appear attributable to reforms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If any readers are new to this story and unfamiliar with the background to welfare &#8216;reforms&#8217; in the UK, may I suggest the following two personal blogs as the best sources of information:</p>
<p>First, Sue Marsh: <a href="http://diaryofabenefitscrounger.blogspot.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://diaryofabenefitscrounger.blogspot.co.uk/</a></p>
<p>Second, Kaliya Franklin: <a href="http://benefitscroungingscum.blogspot.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://benefitscroungingscum.blogspot.co.uk/</a></p>
<p>They are both disabled, both activists, and they and their network know more about this subject than most.</p>
<p>In addition, read <a href="http://calumslist.org/" rel="nofollow">http://calumslist.org/</a> which lists deaths that appear attributable to reforms.</p>
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		<title>By: Mordicai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mordicai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe &quot;people&#039;s health care issues shouldn&#039;t be decided by business rules&quot; is a good take away?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe &#8220;people&#8217;s health care issues shouldn&#8217;t be decided by business rules&#8221; is a good take away?</p>
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		<title>By: aap360</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/19/man-in-a-coma-is-fit-for-wor.html#comment-1512193</link>
		<dc:creator>aap360</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuff like this happens because they have a really stupid form to fill out and the people running the show can&#039;t look at medical records. A lot of people get turned down only to go through the appeal process, where the people handling it can look at the medical records, and it get reinstated. 

It&#039;s a big run  around and in the mean time you get cases like this where a guy in a coma can get labeled fit for work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuff like this happens because they have a really stupid form to fill out and the people running the show can&#8217;t look at medical records. A lot of people get turned down only to go through the appeal process, where the people handling it can look at the medical records, and it get reinstated. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a big run  around and in the mean time you get cases like this where a guy in a coma can get labeled fit for work.</p>
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		<title>By: NelC</title>
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		<dc:creator>NelC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice&quot;

I don&#039;t know that the ATOS interviewer who only wrote down the half of what I told him about my depression that made it sound like I was fit for work &lt;i&gt;deliberately&lt;/I&gt; or that he misled me about the procedure &lt;I&gt;deliberately&lt;/I&gt; or whether it was because he was incompetent. But, you know, I don&#039;t care. ATOS is a private company receiving Government handouts for fulfilling a political agenda using the bluntest tools possible. ATOS is malicious, even if individual elements of it are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that the ATOS interviewer who only wrote down the half of what I told him about my depression that made it sound like I was fit for work <i>deliberately</i> or that he misled me about the procedure <i>deliberately</i> or whether it was because he was incompetent. But, you know, I don&#8217;t care. ATOS is a private company receiving Government handouts for fulfilling a political agenda using the bluntest tools possible. ATOS is malicious, even if individual elements of it are not.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Hornby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Hornby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 12:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just being droll - I don&#039;t think companies are better than governments (failed privatisation shows this often enough) but at the same time government could learn a lot from business. The waste and busybodying i see in local government would sink a company in weeks. But there are governments that are better than others. Consider me a disenfranchised Brit hoping for something better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just being droll &#8211; I don&#8217;t think companies are better than governments (failed privatisation shows this often enough) but at the same time government could learn a lot from business. The waste and busybodying i see in local government would sink a company in weeks. But there are governments that are better than others. Consider me a disenfranchised Brit hoping for something better.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Hornby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Hornby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 12:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all up for a dictatorship, as long as its a dictator I like. Or is that just a democracy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all up for a dictatorship, as long as its a dictator I like. Or is that just a democracy?</p>
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