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		<title>By: rcowan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/20/how-the-refrigerator-got-its-h.html#comment-1516236</link>
		<dc:creator>rcowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Maggie and others, for your positive reaction to my essay about gas refrigerators.  However, what appears to be an essay in the book, The Social Shaping of Technology, is actually part of a chapter from my own book, Ruth Schwartz Cowan,  More Work for Mother: The Ironies of Household Technology from the Open Hearth to the Microwave (1983).  Readers of Boing-Boing might want to take a look at it because I argue, as the title suggests, that modern household technologies created more work for housewives rather than less.

And a word about gas refrigerators:  the full scale models, most popular in the US in the 1930s, were plumbed directly into household gas lines; they were terrific machines, especially when compared with the smaller, portable versions which run off propane tanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Maggie and others, for your positive reaction to my essay about gas refrigerators.  However, what appears to be an essay in the book, The Social Shaping of Technology, is actually part of a chapter from my own book, Ruth Schwartz Cowan,  More Work for Mother: The Ironies of Household Technology from the Open Hearth to the Microwave (1983).  Readers of Boing-Boing might want to take a look at it because I argue, as the title suggests, that modern household technologies created more work for housewives rather than less.</p>
<p>And a word about gas refrigerators:  the full scale models, most popular in the US in the 1930s, were plumbed directly into household gas lines; they were terrific machines, especially when compared with the smaller, portable versions which run off propane tanks.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Brad Hicks</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/20/how-the-refrigerator-got-its-h.html#comment-1513752</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Brad Hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, don&#039;t even get me started on the fact that nobody born after 1960 is willing to pay for the maintenance costs on the stuff their parents and grandparents built with their sweat and their tax dollars. We&#039;re a sick and horrible nation of ungrateful brats, and I&#039;ve been known to bitterly rant about that subject for hours on end.

But specific to this situation, the reason that Ameren is as big as it is is that the previous CEO expanded it by looting the maintenance budget for money to invest in leveraged buyouts of rival utilities that (he argued) were less profitable than they could have been because they were still budgeting  for routine maintenance. Investors gobbled this up. It was the perfect example of privatized gain and socialized loss; he demonstrated that if you skip the routine maintenance, when the whole system fails, you can get federal disaster relief money to cover the maintenance you put off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, don&#8217;t even get me started on the fact that nobody born after 1960 is willing to pay for the maintenance costs on the stuff their parents and grandparents built with their sweat and their tax dollars. We&#8217;re a sick and horrible nation of ungrateful brats, and I&#8217;ve been known to bitterly rant about that subject for hours on end.</p>
<p>But specific to this situation, the reason that Ameren is as big as it is is that the previous CEO expanded it by looting the maintenance budget for money to invest in leveraged buyouts of rival utilities that (he argued) were less profitable than they could have been because they were still budgeting  for routine maintenance. Investors gobbled this up. It was the perfect example of privatized gain and socialized loss; he demonstrated that if you skip the routine maintenance, when the whole system fails, you can get federal disaster relief money to cover the maintenance you put off.</p>
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		<title>By: digi_owl</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/20/how-the-refrigerator-got-its-h.html#comment-1513556</link>
		<dc:creator>digi_owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly the &quot;no maintenance&quot; has infected government as well in various places of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly the &#8220;no maintenance&#8221; has infected government as well in various places of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: digi_owl</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/20/how-the-refrigerator-got-its-h.html#comment-1513555</link>
		<dc:creator>digi_owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, i have found myself collecting phone chargers that can run of AA and AAA size batteries. Maybe next i&#039;ll get hold of the C size monstrosity some Japanese company made for laptop charging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, i have found myself collecting phone chargers that can run of AA and AAA size batteries. Maybe next i&#8217;ll get hold of the C size monstrosity some Japanese company made for laptop charging.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie Sapp</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/20/how-the-refrigerator-got-its-h.html#comment-1513534</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie Sapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 10:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a propane powered refrigerator at my camp. It has to be over 30 years old, and works just as well as the electric 2011 model here in my kitchen.   I have friends who have gas refrigerators in their camps that are from the 1940&#039;s and 50&#039;s. Since there are no moving parts, they just sit there and run forever. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a propane powered refrigerator at my camp. It has to be over 30 years old, and works just as well as the electric 2011 model here in my kitchen.   I have friends who have gas refrigerators in their camps that are from the 1940&#8242;s and 50&#8242;s. Since there are no moving parts, they just sit there and run forever. </p>
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		<title>By: LILemming</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/20/how-the-refrigerator-got-its-h.html#comment-1513375</link>
		<dc:creator>LILemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s interesting history in the article, but there&#039;s a couple of points I don&#039;t think it addresses.  Consider that the article discusses that GE did much engineering and marketing research before they went into the fridge market.  Also consider, there&#039;s no reason a gas-absorption fridge needs to be powered by gas.  As others have noted RV GA fridges can run electric or gas.

FWIW, a compresor fridge could be powered by a gas motor rather than an electric one.

It seems just as likely that the big companies went compressor because they had the research to show that they&#039;d be more successful than GA.  

I&#039;m also curious why to this day GA fridges remain such a nice product, particularly after the freon scares of the 80&#039;s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s interesting history in the article, but there&#8217;s a couple of points I don&#8217;t think it addresses.  Consider that the article discusses that GE did much engineering and marketing research before they went into the fridge market.  Also consider, there&#8217;s no reason a gas-absorption fridge needs to be powered by gas.  As others have noted RV GA fridges can run electric or gas.</p>
<p>FWIW, a compresor fridge could be powered by a gas motor rather than an electric one.</p>
<p>It seems just as likely that the big companies went compressor because they had the research to show that they&#8217;d be more successful than GA.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also curious why to this day GA fridges remain such a nice product, particularly after the freon scares of the 80&#8242;s?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Reid</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/20/how-the-refrigerator-got-its-h.html#comment-1513347</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 01:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the topic of orphan technologies (but not refrigeration), I have often been amazed at the variety of photographic devices that existed in the post-war era -- there was a several-decade interval where photographic chemical technology had become mature and cheap, and xerographic image-transfer technology was still expensive and rare. I ran across a photography-based document copier several years ago, which introduced me to the &quot;dead media&quot; list, which had many more examples. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the topic of orphan technologies (but not refrigeration), I have often been amazed at the variety of photographic devices that existed in the post-war era &#8212; there was a several-decade interval where photographic chemical technology had become mature and cheap, and xerographic image-transfer technology was still expensive and rare. I ran across a photography-based document copier several years ago, which introduced me to the &#8220;dead media&#8221; list, which had many more examples. </p>
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		<title>By: NoneofYourPenguins</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/20/how-the-refrigerator-got-its-h.html#comment-1513344</link>
		<dc:creator>NoneofYourPenguins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 01:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;All caused by the same root cause, the previous electric company CEO had nearly zeroed out the maintenance budget.&quot;

Umm...  Sounds like one of the reasons this country is messed up.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All caused by the same root cause, the previous electric company CEO had nearly zeroed out the maintenance budget.&#8221;</p>
<p>Umm&#8230;  Sounds like one of the reasons this country is messed up.  </p>
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		<title>By: EMComments</title>
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		<dc:creator>EMComments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 23:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggie
 &quot;and they don&#039;t have to look like smoothly curved pods&quot;

Err, yes they do: http://autos.aol.com/article/car-design/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggie<br />
 &#8221;and they don&#8217;t have to look like smoothly curved pods&#8221;</p>
<p>Err, yes they do: http://autos.aol.com/article/car-design/</p>
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		<title>By: B E Pratt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/20/how-the-refrigerator-got-its-h.html#comment-1513255</link>
		<dc:creator>B E Pratt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Gadzooks! Rather expensive, aren&#039;t they.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Gadzooks! Rather expensive, aren&#8217;t they.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Brad Hicks</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/20/how-the-refrigerator-got-its-h.html#comment-1513185</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Brad Hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s my backup plan if I can&#039;t find a good-sized two way. But my thinking is that the more things I move off of electric during a blackout, the smaller and cheaper the backup generator has to be. Take the refrigerator off of the backup generator and all I have to support for emergencies is the furnace and, say, one low-wattage outlet for recharging the phone, etc.

Single point of failure systems annoy me on a deep-seated level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s my backup plan if I can&#8217;t find a good-sized two way. But my thinking is that the more things I move off of electric during a blackout, the smaller and cheaper the backup generator has to be. Take the refrigerator off of the backup generator and all I have to support for emergencies is the furnace and, say, one low-wattage outlet for recharging the phone, etc.</p>
<p>Single point of failure systems annoy me on a deep-seated level.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy crap!

I took several of Professor Cowan&#039;s history of science classes when I was getting my undergraduate degree at SUNY Stony Brook.

She would have written this at about that time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crap!</p>
<p>I took several of Professor Cowan&#8217;s history of science classes when I was getting my undergraduate degree at SUNY Stony Brook.</p>
<p>She would have written this at about that time.</p>
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		<title>By: digi_owl</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/20/how-the-refrigerator-got-its-h.html#comment-1513046</link>
		<dc:creator>digi_owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> The guy doing the presentation seems to have moved on to a different company, so i guess it never panned out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> The guy doing the presentation seems to have moved on to a different company, so i guess it never panned out.</p>
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		<title>By: digi_owl</title>
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		<dc:creator>digi_owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep. These days the issue of feeding the world is not the production, but the cost of transportation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. These days the issue of feeding the world is not the production, but the cost of transportation.</p>
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		<title>By: digi_owl</title>
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		<dc:creator>digi_owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or perhaps look into a n. gas fueled generator hooked up so that it kicks in when the mains cut out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or perhaps look into a n. gas fueled generator hooked up so that it kicks in when the mains cut out.</p>
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		<title>By: Bionicgeek</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/20/how-the-refrigerator-got-its-h.html#comment-1513000</link>
		<dc:creator>Bionicgeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 18:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The book has a newer edition out from around 1999.  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0335199135/ref=gno_cart_title_1 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The book has a newer edition out from around 1999.  <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0335199135/ref=gno_cart_title_1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0335199135/ref=gno_cart_title_1</a> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert Cruickshank</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/20/how-the-refrigerator-got-its-h.html#comment-1512925</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Cruickshank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Oh, that&#039;s awesome.  That&#039;s worthy of a Boing Boing post in and of itself. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Oh, that&#8217;s awesome.  That&#8217;s worthy of a Boing Boing post in and of itself. </p>
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		<title>By: Adam Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 16:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a TED Talk in 2007 ( http://www.ted.com/talks/adam_grosser_and_his_sustainable_fridge.html ) about a compact absorption refridgerator for developing countries. They were working on a &lt;$50 device that was powered by nothing more than 30 minutes of being perched over a campfire and could then keep medicines or other small items cold for up to 24 hours. It sounds awesome, but there&#039;s nothing on the Interwebs about it after the TED Talk. Hmm!?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a TED Talk in 2007 ( <a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/adam_grosser_and_his_sustainable_fridge.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/talks/adam_grosser_and_his_sustainable_fridge.html</a> ) about a compact absorption refridgerator for developing countries. They were working on a &lt;$50 device that was powered by nothing more than 30 minutes of being perched over a campfire and could then keep medicines or other small items cold for up to 24 hours. It sounds awesome, but there&#039;s nothing on the Interwebs about it after the TED Talk. Hmm!?!?</p>
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		<title>By: J. Brad Hicks</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/08/20/how-the-refrigerator-got-its-h.html#comment-1512846</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Brad Hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the cut of your jib!

Here in St. Louis, not that many years ago, we went through three city-wide blackouts in two years. (All caused by the same root cause, the previous electric company CEO had nearly zeroed out the maintenance budget.) All three blackouts lasted for multiple days, one over them over a week.

Having lived in an RV, it occurred to me at the time to wonder if there were kitchen-sized versions of what most high-end RVs have. It&#039;s called a Two-Way Refrigerator. When 120v AC is available, it runs on electricity; unplug it, and it automatically switches over to propane. If people had those, only natural gas instead of propane (almost every home in the St. Louis area is plumbed for natural gas, most of our furnaces and water heaters run on it), they wouldn&#039;t have lost the entire contents of their refrigerators three times in two years. I remember thinking, at the time, that the next time I had a chance to remodel a kitchen I&#039;d look into that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the cut of your jib!</p>
<p>Here in St. Louis, not that many years ago, we went through three city-wide blackouts in two years. (All caused by the same root cause, the previous electric company CEO had nearly zeroed out the maintenance budget.) All three blackouts lasted for multiple days, one over them over a week.</p>
<p>Having lived in an RV, it occurred to me at the time to wonder if there were kitchen-sized versions of what most high-end RVs have. It&#8217;s called a Two-Way Refrigerator. When 120v AC is available, it runs on electricity; unplug it, and it automatically switches over to propane. If people had those, only natural gas instead of propane (almost every home in the St. Louis area is plumbed for natural gas, most of our furnaces and water heaters run on it), they wouldn&#8217;t have lost the entire contents of their refrigerators three times in two years. I remember thinking, at the time, that the next time I had a chance to remodel a kitchen I&#8217;d look into that.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Brad Hicks</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Brad Hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forget who said it, I think maybe Spider Robinson? &quot;Whenever the question is &#039;why do we?&#039; or &#039;why don&#039;t we?&#039;, the answer is usually, &#039;Money.&#039;&quot; Before I even read the article, I could have guessed that it was because the electric refrigerator companies had Wall Street and the banks on their side. That generally has been what has decided between competing tech standards in the last century.

Gas-powered ammonia condensation refrigerators are the norm, not the exception, for boating and RV use. I spent a couple of years living with one in my &#039;89 Pace Arrow 37J, the &quot;Libertalia,&quot; and that gas-powered refrigerator may have been the least troublesome, most reliable component on that whole antique land yacht. And yes, it was way, way quieter than any refrigerator I&#039;ve ever owned. I was just fine with it.

I knew a guy who bought one for his house, for energy conservation purposes, and he loved it, but the rest of his family hated it. If you have teenagers in the house, or anybody else with the atrocious habit of standing there dithering with the refrigerator door open, you&#039;ll have problems with a gas powered ammonia-condensation refrigerator: if it gets warm inside, it&#039;s much slower to cool down, and food will spoil. Break yourself (and your kids and/or spouse, if any) of that bad habit and it&#039;s a lovely machine, especially if you keep it full for the extra thermal mass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forget who said it, I think maybe Spider Robinson? &#8220;Whenever the question is &#8216;why do we?&#8217; or &#8216;why don&#8217;t we?&#8217;, the answer is usually, &#8216;Money.&#8217;&#8221; Before I even read the article, I could have guessed that it was because the electric refrigerator companies had Wall Street and the banks on their side. That generally has been what has decided between competing tech standards in the last century.</p>
<p>Gas-powered ammonia condensation refrigerators are the norm, not the exception, for boating and RV use. I spent a couple of years living with one in my &#8217;89 Pace Arrow 37J, the &#8220;Libertalia,&#8221; and that gas-powered refrigerator may have been the least troublesome, most reliable component on that whole antique land yacht. And yes, it was way, way quieter than any refrigerator I&#8217;ve ever owned. I was just fine with it.</p>
<p>I knew a guy who bought one for his house, for energy conservation purposes, and he loved it, but the rest of his family hated it. If you have teenagers in the house, or anybody else with the atrocious habit of standing there dithering with the refrigerator door open, you&#8217;ll have problems with a gas powered ammonia-condensation refrigerator: if it gets warm inside, it&#8217;s much slower to cool down, and food will spoil. Break yourself (and your kids and/or spouse, if any) of that bad habit and it&#8217;s a lovely machine, especially if you keep it full for the extra thermal mass.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gas refrigerators are easily obtained and work fine.  I used one for two weeks quite recently.

And yes, they hum. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gas refrigerators are easily obtained and work fine.  I used one for two weeks quite recently.</p>
<p>And yes, they hum. </p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As it turns out, I actually can do that.  Thank you, mysterious stranger!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As it turns out, I actually can do that.  Thank you, mysterious stranger!</p>
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		<title>By: ROSSINDETROIT</title>
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		<dc:creator>ROSSINDETROIT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I always thought that electric motors in everything were a plot by the copper barons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I always thought that electric motors in everything were a plot by the copper barons.</p>
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		<title>By: elchip</title>
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		<dc:creator>elchip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many people who live off grid and/or deliberately lower-tech lives without electricity (think Amish) use propane-powered refrigerators and freezers -- e.g., those sold by Lehmans: 
http://www.lehmans.com/store/Appliances___Gas_Refrigerators_and_Freezers?Args= .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people who live off grid and/or deliberately lower-tech lives without electricity (think Amish) use propane-powered refrigerators and freezers &#8212; e.g., those sold by Lehmans: <br />
<a href="http://www.lehmans.com/store/Appliances___Gas_Refrigerators_and_Freezers?Args= " rel="nofollow">http://www.lehmans.com/store/Appliances___Gas_Refrigerators_and_Freezers?Args= </a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Avi Shmueli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avi Shmueli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the lovely PDF. THe author has a web site at: http://ruthschwartzcowan.com/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the lovely PDF. THe author has a web site at: http://ruthschwartzcowan.com/.</p>
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		<title>By: George Launchbaugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Launchbaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s with the Servel hate? Our family has has one  for 60 years  and it is still running perfectly. It&#039;s outlasted   3 or 4 electric models.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s with the Servel hate? Our family has has one  for 60 years  and it is still running perfectly. It&#8217;s outlasted   3 or 4 electric models.</p>
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		<title>By: Chrsitian Long</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chrsitian Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite alternative refrigeration: the Crosley IcyBall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icy_Ball </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite alternative refrigeration: the Crosley IcyBall<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icy_Ball" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icy_Ball</a> </p>
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		<title>By: LinkMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>LinkMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absorption refrigerators are still used in RVs and other applications where a propane tank is available but continuous electricity isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absorption refrigerators are still used in RVs and other applications where a propane tank is available but continuous electricity isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: nixiebunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>nixiebunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know some folks from Australia who had an ammonia refrigerator. They said that one night, the thing sprung an ammonia leak, and the next morning there was a growth of blue corrosive frost over everything in the kitchen.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know some folks from Australia who had an ammonia refrigerator. They said that one night, the thing sprung an ammonia leak, and the next morning there was a growth of blue corrosive frost over everything in the kitchen.  </p>
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		<title>By: andy stopford</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy stopford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_refrigerator 

And no, they don&#039;t work very well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_refrigerator " rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_refrigerator </a></p>
<p>And no, they don&#8217;t work very well.</p>
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