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	<title>Comments on: Shepard Fairey sentenced to&#160;probation</title>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/07/shepard-fairey-sentenced-to-pr.html#comment-1529930</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No art is sui generis.</description>
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		<title>By: Ito Kagehisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ito Kagehisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Considering what he was lying about, I agree.

There are times, of course, when lying in court would be morally required.  As you say, this was definitely not one of those times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Considering what he was lying about, I agree.</p>
<p>There are times, of course, when lying in court would be morally required.  As you say, this was definitely not one of those times.</p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fairey doesn&#039;t generally mind when people make derivative work based on his own, he even &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.obeygiant.com/bootlegs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;has a whole showcase of &quot;Obey&quot; parodies on his web site.&lt;/a&gt; The reason he sent a C&amp;D to Baxter Orr was that Orr&#039;s posters weren&#039;t a clear example of parody/tribute/whatever. They just looked like Shepard Fairey prints, and were being sold in a market where buyers could reasonably be expected to get the two confused.

None of which has much to do with the fact that he got busted for lying in court. That&#039;s a big no-no any way you slice it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fairey doesn&#8217;t generally mind when people make derivative work based on his own, he even <a href="http://www.obeygiant.com/bootlegs" rel="nofollow">has a whole showcase of &#8220;Obey&#8221; parodies on his web site.</a> The reason he sent a C&amp;D to Baxter Orr was that Orr&#8217;s posters weren&#8217;t a clear example of parody/tribute/whatever. They just looked like Shepard Fairey prints, and were being sold in a market where buyers could reasonably be expected to get the two confused.</p>
<p>None of which has much to do with the fact that he got busted for lying in court. That&#8217;s a big no-no any way you slice it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ito Kagehisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ito Kagehisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really hard to have sympathy for a man whose career has been almost entirely based on derivative works, who has legally attacked at least one other artist (Baxter Orr) for making derivative works.  It&#039;s also hard to have sympathy for anyone who can afford a 1.6 million dollar settlement and still be able to brag about his &quot;six figure contributions&quot; to charity; I don&#039;t think the 1% really need my crocodile tears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really hard to have sympathy for a man whose career has been almost entirely based on derivative works, who has legally attacked at least one other artist (Baxter Orr) for making derivative works.  It&#8217;s also hard to have sympathy for anyone who can afford a 1.6 million dollar settlement and still be able to brag about his &#8220;six figure contributions&#8221; to charity; I don&#8217;t think the 1% really need my crocodile tears.</p>
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		<title>By: DisGuest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/07/shepard-fairey-sentenced-to-pr.html#comment-1528725</link>
		<dc:creator>DisGuest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think artists need to suffer. That wasn&#039;t the point. But I think I have said the same thing forty different ways on this page, so either I am unable to communicate, people don&#039;t understand, or they are un-budging in their established opinion. At any rate, I already crossed into beating a dead horse territory, so this is will be it.

Last &amp; final comment: I find it remarkable, as a liberal, looking at the opinions here, from other liberals (I think), who diverge so strongly from a theme, when it involves the word &quot;artist&quot;. 

The AP photographer&#039;s photo is the infrastructure, it is a bridge to a final product. Say the shipping corporation has a nice fleet of trucks, but without a bridge, they travel no where. Without the first image, there would be no hope poster. I wouldn&#039;t care if he used the first image, but he should have credited the first work. He didn&#039;t make his art on his own. It&#039;s like saying, because the shipping company put flags on the bridge, that they built it; they didn&#039;t, and then arguing that now they shouldn&#039;t have to pay taxes to keep the infrastructure whole. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think artists need to suffer. That wasn&#8217;t the point. But I think I have said the same thing forty different ways on this page, so either I am unable to communicate, people don&#8217;t understand, or they are un-budging in their established opinion. At any rate, I already crossed into beating a dead horse territory, so this is will be it.</p>
<p>Last &amp; final comment: I find it remarkable, as a liberal, looking at the opinions here, from other liberals (I think), who diverge so strongly from a theme, when it involves the word &#8220;artist&#8221;. </p>
<p>The AP photographer&#8217;s photo is the infrastructure, it is a bridge to a final product. Say the shipping corporation has a nice fleet of trucks, but without a bridge, they travel no where. Without the first image, there would be no hope poster. I wouldn&#8217;t care if he used the first image, but he should have credited the first work. He didn&#8217;t make his art on his own. It&#8217;s like saying, because the shipping company put flags on the bridge, that they built it; they didn&#8217;t, and then arguing that now they shouldn&#8217;t have to pay taxes to keep the infrastructure whole. </p>
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		<title>By: Beanolini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beanolini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just the one? You&#039;d have loved the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2012/may/18/hayward-gallery-invisible-show&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;invisible art&lt;/a&gt; exhibition that&#039;s just finished in London.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just the one? You&#8217;d have loved the <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2012/may/18/hayward-gallery-invisible-show" rel="nofollow">invisible art</a> exhibition that&#8217;s just finished in London.</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
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		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 22:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;what reason did Fairey have to lie?&lt;/i&gt;

How does &quot;who cares?&quot; do ya?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>what reason did Fairey have to lie?</i></p>
<p>How does &#8220;who cares?&#8221; do ya?</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
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		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 22:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What if someone copied Starry Night in the 1800&#039;s, after seeing Vincent&#039;s painting. &lt;/i&gt;

They would have had just as much trouble selling it as Theo did. Duh. Try to remember that The Beatles&#039; &quot;Revolution #9&quot; did not reach the Top 40.

Furthermore, the &quot;art requires suffering&quot; thing is a hoax long disproven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What if someone copied Starry Night in the 1800&#8242;s, after seeing Vincent&#8217;s painting. </i></p>
<p>They would have had just as much trouble selling it as Theo did. Duh. Try to remember that The Beatles&#8217; &#8220;Revolution #9&#8243; did not reach the Top 40.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the &#8220;art requires suffering&#8221; thing is a hoax long disproven.</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
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		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 22:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That seals it, then: most art is illegitimate. How do I sue Rembrandt?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That seals it, then: most art is illegitimate. How do I sue Rembrandt?</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
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		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 22:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>smallchange goes on and on about the art, and then when their arguments are shredded retreats to &quot;well he destroyed evidence,&quot; which has fuck-all to do with art and everything to do with The Man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>smallchange goes on and on about the art, and then when their arguments are shredded retreats to &#8220;well he destroyed evidence,&#8221; which has fuck-all to do with art and everything to do with The Man.</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
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		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 22:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, if only he&#039;d done it right it could have been actual art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, if only he&#8217;d done it right it could have been actual art.</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/07/shepard-fairey-sentenced-to-pr.html#comment-1528488</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 22:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NU UH he copied that scrambled eggs edging shit from US dollar bills. FRAUD COPIER!! Also it&#039;s a woman wearing a skirt or dress and holding things, so it&#039;s totally ripping off Frederic Bartholdi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NU UH he copied that scrambled eggs edging shit from US dollar bills. FRAUD COPIER!! Also it&#8217;s a woman wearing a skirt or dress and holding things, so it&#8217;s totally ripping off Frederic Bartholdi.</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
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		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 22:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfamiliar with Walter Benjamin?</description>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
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		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 21:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well la-de-da. How well does one have to draw in order to be a respected artist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well la-de-da. How well does one have to draw in order to be a respected artist?</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/07/shepard-fairey-sentenced-to-pr.html#comment-1528480</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 21:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the word you&#039;re looking for is &quot;populist.&quot;

And yes you do have a problem with appropriation when you focus too much on the word &quot;appropriate.&quot;

Really, though, you&#039;re drifting awfully close to the whole &quot;jazz is degenerate&quot; thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the word you&#8217;re looking for is &#8220;populist.&#8221;</p>
<p>And yes you do have a problem with appropriation when you focus too much on the word &#8220;appropriate.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really, though, you&#8217;re drifting awfully close to the whole &#8220;jazz is degenerate&#8221; thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Orthodoxcaveman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orthodoxcaveman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 07:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t make any aesthetic judgments about the work and I don&#039;t have a problem with appropriation. What&#039;s to get?  Leonard Peltier and the Zapatista Movement give a radical sheen to a hack flogging swimwear and jeans. Maybe Shepard&#039;s simple minded and naive rather than just mercenary. For all I know he probably writes letters to political dissidents around the world languishing in prison enclosing screen prints of Ice-T to cheer them up. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t make any aesthetic judgments about the work and I don&#8217;t have a problem with appropriation. What&#8217;s to get?  Leonard Peltier and the Zapatista Movement give a radical sheen to a hack flogging swimwear and jeans. Maybe Shepard&#8217;s simple minded and naive rather than just mercenary. For all I know he probably writes letters to political dissidents around the world languishing in prison enclosing screen prints of Ice-T to cheer them up. </p>
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		<title>By: Quinx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quinx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 06:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He didn&#039;t build that.&quot; The government did it for him . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He didn&#8217;t build that.&#8221; The government did it for him . . .</p>
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		<title>By: John Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 05:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This particular case was regarding lying to the court in the previous copyright case. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This particular case was regarding lying to the court in the previous copyright case. </p>
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		<title>By: Guide UI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guide UI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 00:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t make enough to live on from my sales, not even close, but I&#039;m also just getting started. However, I will make plenty because I&#039;ll move on to tackling problems I can solve.

You can&#039;t expect protection from others, the law doesn&#039;t really protect the AP, the AP protects the AP. And if you come toe to toe with the AP, even if you&#039;re work is legitimately yours, it really boils down to who has the most money/power.

I.P. laws only benefit those who can afford to enforce them for their own purposes.

The real work is in becoming the more know artist for any given idea. Then everyone knows who&#039;s idea it was. Society and economy are cooperative efforts.

Even at that, owning imagery, writings, concepts and what have you can really begin to limit the creative freedom of others.

I.P. is just a way to sit back and rest on your laurels, hoping that life will require no further effort of you.

If you were famous but poor you&#039;d be having a hell of a time protecting your work, though I understand that the two in combination can be hard to imagine in a world where you can &quot;own&quot; ideas. The AP thinks it&#039;s happy about spending it&#039;s dough and using it&#039;s power to hold on to these works, but that&#039;s only because they don&#039;t see the potential of the other option and aren&#039;t structured to embrace it. So artists actually suffer and will suffer more and more from limits.

Try to take your work to the big time, you&#039;ll be walking on egg shells more and more as your work gets known, you&#039;d better believe it.

Now if you&#039;ll excuse me I&#039;ll be busy patenting a dance move! :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t make enough to live on from my sales, not even close, but I&#8217;m also just getting started. However, I will make plenty because I&#8217;ll move on to tackling problems I can solve.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t expect protection from others, the law doesn&#8217;t really protect the AP, the AP protects the AP. And if you come toe to toe with the AP, even if you&#8217;re work is legitimately yours, it really boils down to who has the most money/power.</p>
<p>I.P. laws only benefit those who can afford to enforce them for their own purposes.</p>
<p>The real work is in becoming the more know artist for any given idea. Then everyone knows who&#8217;s idea it was. Society and economy are cooperative efforts.</p>
<p>Even at that, owning imagery, writings, concepts and what have you can really begin to limit the creative freedom of others.</p>
<p>I.P. is just a way to sit back and rest on your laurels, hoping that life will require no further effort of you.</p>
<p>If you were famous but poor you&#8217;d be having a hell of a time protecting your work, though I understand that the two in combination can be hard to imagine in a world where you can &#8220;own&#8221; ideas. The AP thinks it&#8217;s happy about spending it&#8217;s dough and using it&#8217;s power to hold on to these works, but that&#8217;s only because they don&#8217;t see the potential of the other option and aren&#8217;t structured to embrace it. So artists actually suffer and will suffer more and more from limits.</p>
<p>Try to take your work to the big time, you&#8217;ll be walking on egg shells more and more as your work gets known, you&#8217;d better believe it.</p>
<p>Now if you&#8217;ll excuse me I&#8217;ll be busy patenting a dance move! :P</p>
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		<title>By: chaopoiesis</title>
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		<dc:creator>chaopoiesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 00:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Many times corporations break a ... law, pay a fine and consider it a cost of doing business. Wash, rinse, repeat. The people making the decisions to commit the crimes are never held responsible.&lt;/i&gt;

For the record, I appropriated the above from a comment on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://boingboing.net/2012/09/07/wells-fargo-mistakenly-foreclo.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wells Fargo&lt;/a&gt; post. Note that Pescovitz&#039;s post fails to mention neither the 1.6 million dollars Fairey paid AP to settle, nor the 25 thousand dollar fine he is required to pay as part of his sentence. &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/artist-spared-prison-obama-poster-image-fraud-162309401.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Other articles&lt;/a&gt; note that prosecutors were seeking jail time, since the charge in question merited up to six months of prison, which didn&#039;t happen.

Business as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Many times corporations break a &#8230; law, pay a fine and consider it a cost of doing business. Wash, rinse, repeat. The people making the decisions to commit the crimes are never held responsible.</i></p>
<p>For the record, I appropriated the above from a comment on the <a href="http://boingboing.net/2012/09/07/wells-fargo-mistakenly-foreclo.html" rel="nofollow">Wells Fargo</a> post. Note that Pescovitz&#8217;s post fails to mention neither the 1.6 million dollars Fairey paid AP to settle, nor the 25 thousand dollar fine he is required to pay as part of his sentence. <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/artist-spared-prison-obama-poster-image-fraud-162309401.html" rel="nofollow">Other articles</a> note that prosecutors were seeking jail time, since the charge in question merited up to six months of prison, which didn&#8217;t happen.</p>
<p>Business as usual.</p>
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		<title>By: mat catastrophe</title>
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		<dc:creator>mat catastrophe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 23:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> See Bender&#039;s reply above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> See Bender&#8217;s reply above.</p>
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		<title>By: DisGuest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/07/shepard-fairey-sentenced-to-pr.html#comment-1527951</link>
		<dc:creator>DisGuest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 22:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am hardly a person worthy of being in the category of greed. I am a humble artist with the best intentions, who actually struggles but does it without stepping on top of someone else. I guess I am a fool. Now that I think about it, maybe I&#039;ll take a classic novel, perhaps Steinbeck&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Grapes of Wrath&lt;/i&gt; ; I&#039;ll color the pages purple and use the Geneva font, making the pages slightly askew, because that changes everything, it&#039;ll be mine. Artists should use whatever advantages they can to make money, right? It doesn&#039;t matter. Especially if I can take something from someone no one knows. I&#039;ll have to check out new authors. Who gives a rat&#039;s ass about a working fool, amirite? 

Editing to add: Yes, I sound like a bit of a dick, but my point is that there needs to be some protections for the unknown little people who operate outside of the corporate overlords. It&#039;s good that you make enough money in your work or that you are okay with sacrificing what you created for your company. Maybe you don&#039;t consider your creations art. But think about this. What if someone copied &lt;i&gt;Starry Night&lt;/i&gt; in the 1800&#039;s, after seeing Vincent&#039;s painting. If someone in another county who was his contemporary did the exact painting, with texture and composition and content, except that he tilted the frame, blocked the outlines further, and changed the color. Would you go back in time and cancel van Gogh&#039;s rights or credit of that original piece because you fancied some of the other artist&#039;s copy better? Remember; he was not really popular in his own day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am hardly a person worthy of being in the category of greed. I am a humble artist with the best intentions, who actually struggles but does it without stepping on top of someone else. I guess I am a fool. Now that I think about it, maybe I&#8217;ll take a classic novel, perhaps Steinbeck&#8217;s <i>Grapes of Wrath</i> ; I&#8217;ll color the pages purple and use the Geneva font, making the pages slightly askew, because that changes everything, it&#8217;ll be mine. Artists should use whatever advantages they can to make money, right? It doesn&#8217;t matter. Especially if I can take something from someone no one knows. I&#8217;ll have to check out new authors. Who gives a rat&#8217;s ass about a working fool, amirite? </p>
<p>Editing to add: Yes, I sound like a bit of a dick, but my point is that there needs to be some protections for the unknown little people who operate outside of the corporate overlords. It&#8217;s good that you make enough money in your work or that you are okay with sacrificing what you created for your company. Maybe you don&#8217;t consider your creations art. But think about this. What if someone copied <i>Starry Night</i> in the 1800&#8242;s, after seeing Vincent&#8217;s painting. If someone in another county who was his contemporary did the exact painting, with texture and composition and content, except that he tilted the frame, blocked the outlines further, and changed the color. Would you go back in time and cancel van Gogh&#8217;s rights or credit of that original piece because you fancied some of the other artist&#8217;s copy better? Remember; he was not really popular in his own day.</p>
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		<title>By: Guide UI</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/07/shepard-fairey-sentenced-to-pr.html#comment-1527949</link>
		<dc:creator>Guide UI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 22:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. I love inspiring people, so when they copy me I profit! Money is something different and should be gained differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. I love inspiring people, so when they copy me I profit! Money is something different and should be gained differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Guide UI</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/07/shepard-fairey-sentenced-to-pr.html#comment-1527946</link>
		<dc:creator>Guide UI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 22:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right?!!! :P</description>
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		<title>By: Guide UI</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/07/shepard-fairey-sentenced-to-pr.html#comment-1527945</link>
		<dc:creator>Guide UI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 22:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! Thanks for the BIG UPS! :) I don&#039;t own the letters D,E,G,I and U so it&#039;s not an issue for me. I sell software so I know that progressing means regularly improvising, not trying to own a piece of existence. A man just can&#039;t do that. He can try, but he&#039;s gonna be busy doing things other than what he&#039;s passionate about until he&#039;s dead, at which point he loses it anyway. What you&#039;re experiencing is an antiquated instinct called greed, take a deep DEEP breath, it&#039;ll pass. Or you can hold on to the past if you want but I&#039;m gonna go keep creating new stuff for a new world! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! Thanks for the BIG UPS! :) I don&#8217;t own the letters D,E,G,I and U so it&#8217;s not an issue for me. I sell software so I know that progressing means regularly improvising, not trying to own a piece of existence. A man just can&#8217;t do that. He can try, but he&#8217;s gonna be busy doing things other than what he&#8217;s passionate about until he&#8217;s dead, at which point he loses it anyway. What you&#8217;re experiencing is an antiquated instinct called greed, take a deep DEEP breath, it&#8217;ll pass. Or you can hold on to the past if you want but I&#8217;m gonna go keep creating new stuff for a new world! ;)</p>
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		<title>By: DisGuest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/07/shepard-fairey-sentenced-to-pr.html#comment-1527934</link>
		<dc:creator>DisGuest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 22:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, being an artist, a photographer, and photojournalist, who must understand light, composition, speed, and deal with whatever crappy conditions there are while shooting an image, and yet selecting an expression, cropping the image, catching something unique, going through security, waiting hours, etc. I take issue with this. If someone writes an eloquent story about Obama, do they not own their words? Someone else should be able to hijack the beauty of the underlying prose with a different font and that makes it okay? And what about music? Should someone simply take Bruce Springsteen&#039;s music, set it to a different tempo with the same exact words, and it&#039;s okay for them to claim it as their own? Let&#039;s pretend no one knows Bruce, he&#039;s a nobody, but everyone knows this &quot;respected&quot; artist, is it okay that the artist steals everything from the unknown person and profits? I have taken my own images and altered them in &quot;pop art&quot; form. But they are my creations.

What the artist did was take an EXACT copy of the photograph with no credit and no permission and with no offer for compensation, he used it to sell posters. Without the AP photo, there would be no Hope poster. He selected the image based on the exact expression that someone else captured.

I have not had a &quot;respected&quot; artist steal my work, but there have been instances where people have  tried to use my work to sell themselves or otherwise make money from my work. How is that okay? And what is so difficult about respecting someone else&#039;s work,  asking permission or paying a use fee? 

Signed,
Guide UI

I assume you wouldn&#039;t care if I used your name now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, being an artist, a photographer, and photojournalist, who must understand light, composition, speed, and deal with whatever crappy conditions there are while shooting an image, and yet selecting an expression, cropping the image, catching something unique, going through security, waiting hours, etc. I take issue with this. If someone writes an eloquent story about Obama, do they not own their words? Someone else should be able to hijack the beauty of the underlying prose with a different font and that makes it okay? And what about music? Should someone simply take Bruce Springsteen&#8217;s music, set it to a different tempo with the same exact words, and it&#8217;s okay for them to claim it as their own? Let&#8217;s pretend no one knows Bruce, he&#8217;s a nobody, but everyone knows this &#8220;respected&#8221; artist, is it okay that the artist steals everything from the unknown person and profits? I have taken my own images and altered them in &#8220;pop art&#8221; form. But they are my creations.</p>
<p>What the artist did was take an EXACT copy of the photograph with no credit and no permission and with no offer for compensation, he used it to sell posters. Without the AP photo, there would be no Hope poster. He selected the image based on the exact expression that someone else captured.</p>
<p>I have not had a &#8220;respected&#8221; artist steal my work, but there have been instances where people have  tried to use my work to sell themselves or otherwise make money from my work. How is that okay? And what is so difficult about respecting someone else&#8217;s work,  asking permission or paying a use fee? </p>
<p>Signed,<br />
Guide UI</p>
<p>I assume you wouldn&#8217;t care if I used your name now.</p>
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		<title>By: DisGuest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/07/shepard-fairey-sentenced-to-pr.html#comment-1527906</link>
		<dc:creator>DisGuest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> There is a way to tilt a crop in photoshop and I believe that was what was done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> There is a way to tilt a crop in photoshop and I believe that was what was done.</p>
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		<title>By: DisGuest</title>
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		<dc:creator>DisGuest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 21:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without credit or a link? For profit, commercially? If so, they are not accepting terms of use. And if that doesn&#039;t matter, why post it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without credit or a link? For profit, commercially? If so, they are not accepting terms of use. And if that doesn&#8217;t matter, why post it?</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite a few websites seem to use BB as a straight feed for content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite a few websites seem to use BB as a straight feed for content.</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
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		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 19:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because you don&#039;t get or like it doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not legit. Appropriation is a huge part of the long history of folk art, it predates copyright by millenia. Imagine there was only one depiction of Horus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because you don&#8217;t get or like it doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not legit. Appropriation is a huge part of the long history of folk art, it predates copyright by millenia. Imagine there was only one depiction of Horus.</p>
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