Comments on: Army "Civil Disturbances" training manual from 1975 http://boingboing.net/2012/09/15/army-civil-disturbances-tr.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Tue, 21 May 2013 07:23:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Giraffes Can Swim http://boingboing.net/2012/09/15/army-civil-disturbances-tr.html#comment-1533926 Giraffes Can Swim Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=181206#comment-1533926 I'm going to guess it's a lot more hit hard and fast and a lot less 'policy' and 'health and safety'. I’m going to guess it’s a lot more hit hard and fast and a lot less ‘policy’ and ‘health and safety’.

]]> By: bkad http://boingboing.net/2012/09/15/army-civil-disturbances-tr.html#comment-1533666 bkad Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=181206#comment-1533666 My question is, as a non expert: is this good training? Are the more recent versions of the manual better training? What IS the right way to manage a civil disturbance? That would be an interesting thing to read about. My question is, as a non expert: is this good training? Are the more recent versions of the manual better training? What IS the right way to manage a civil disturbance? That would be an interesting thing to read about.

]]> By: Matthew Carrick http://boingboing.net/2012/09/15/army-civil-disturbances-tr.html#comment-1533631 Matthew Carrick Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=181206#comment-1533631 Would that be a Vertical or Horizontal butt stroke? Would that be a Vertical or Horizontal butt stroke?

]]> By: Just_Ok http://boingboing.net/2012/09/15/army-civil-disturbances-tr.html#comment-1533600 Just_Ok Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=181206#comment-1533600 We can eliminate all civil disturbances by not being civil. We can eliminate all civil disturbances by not being civil.

]]> By: mrtut http://boingboing.net/2012/09/15/army-civil-disturbances-tr.html#comment-1533592 mrtut Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:05:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=181206#comment-1533592 - seven times as many prisoners - five times as many prisoners on death row - six times as many black males in prison - a third less black males in university - four times higher expense on penal system (vs. 13% decrease for higher education) Right now, a quarter of the world's prison population is in the U.S. I hope all these people are held in sane conditions and with consideration for their reintegration into society... (commence prison rape jokes) - seven times as many prisoners
- five times as many prisoners on death row
- six times as many black males in prison
- a third less black males in university
- four times higher expense on penal system (vs. 13% decrease for higher education)

Right now, a quarter of the world’s prison population is in the U.S.

I hope all these people are held in sane conditions and with consideration for their reintegration into society…
(commence prison rape jokes)

]]> By: Lemoutan http://boingboing.net/2012/09/15/army-civil-disturbances-tr.html#comment-1533580 Lemoutan Sun, 16 Sep 2012 07:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=181206#comment-1533580 Have they lost the one for 1776 or something? Have they lost the one for 1776 or something?

]]> By: safedoc http://boingboing.net/2012/09/15/army-civil-disturbances-tr.html#comment-1533572 safedoc Sun, 16 Sep 2012 06:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=181206#comment-1533572 Here are links to full copies of a number of different versions of the manual, going back to 1945 Domestic Disturbances (1945) http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm19-15.pdf Army  Civil Disturbance Manual (1972) http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/ar500-50.pdf Civil Disturbances (1985) http://www.aclu.org/files/projects/foiasearch/pdf/DODDOA008742.pdf Support to Domestic Civil Authorities in Civil Disturbance Operations: Intelligence Requirements and Doctrine (1994) http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a284659.pdf Training for Operations Other Than War (1996) http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a323247.pdf Army Civil Disturbance Manual (2005) http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm3-19-15.pdf U.S. Army Military Police School Civil Disturbance Operations Course (2006) http://publicintelligence.net/usamps-civil-disturbance-operations/ Here are links to full copies of a number of different versions of the manual, going back to 1945

Domestic Disturbances (1945)
http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm19-15.pdf

Army  Civil Disturbance Manual (1972)
http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/ar500-50.pdf

Civil Disturbances (1985)
http://www.aclu.org/files/projects/foiasearch/pdf/DODDOA008742.pdf

Support to Domestic Civil Authorities in Civil Disturbance Operations: Intelligence Requirements and Doctrine (1994)
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a284659.pdf

Training for Operations Other Than War (1996)
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a323247.pdf

Army Civil Disturbance Manual (2005)
http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm3-19-15.pdf

U.S. Army Military Police School Civil Disturbance Operations Course (2006)
http://publicintelligence.net/usamps-civil-disturbance-operations/

]]> By: David Pescovitz http://boingboing.net/2012/09/15/army-civil-disturbances-tr.html#comment-1533539 David Pescovitz Sun, 16 Sep 2012 04:09:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=181206#comment-1533539 HAHHAHA! Perfect. HAHHAHA! Perfect.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/09/15/army-civil-disturbances-tr.html#comment-1533471 Antinous / Moderator Sun, 16 Sep 2012 01:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=181206#comment-1533471 Would it have killed them to hire Tom of Finland? Would it have killed them to hire Tom of Finland?

]]> By: Kevin Pierce http://boingboing.net/2012/09/15/army-civil-disturbances-tr.html#comment-1533458 Kevin Pierce Sun, 16 Sep 2012 00:36:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=181206#comment-1533458 Here's the whole thing: http://www.aclu.org/files/projects/foiasearch/pdf/DODDOA008742.pdf  Here’s the whole thing:
http://www.aclu.org/files/projects/foiasearch/pdf/DODDOA008742.pdf 

]]> By: Mighty Blowhole http://boingboing.net/2012/09/15/army-civil-disturbances-tr.html#comment-1533448 Mighty Blowhole Sun, 16 Sep 2012 00:19:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=181206#comment-1533448  Well... the manual's a lot nicer -looking now...  Well… the manual’s a lot nicer -looking now…

]]> By: SoItBegins http://boingboing.net/2012/09/15/army-civil-disturbances-tr.html#comment-1533431 SoItBegins Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=181206#comment-1533431  In which direction?  In which direction?

]]> By: anonguest7619 http://boingboing.net/2012/09/15/army-civil-disturbances-tr.html#comment-1533430 anonguest7619 Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=181206#comment-1533430 thankfully, we've come a long way as a country and a military since 1975. thankfully, we’ve come a long way as a country and a military since 1975.

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