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		<title>By: dain42</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/20/ios6-maps-fails-so-hard-a-tum.html#comment-1539335</link>
		<dc:creator>dain42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 01:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, you run into exactly the same sort of Dali-esque designs still in Google Earth (Niagra Falls, Canada-US border, Rainbow Bridge):  http://ubuntuone.com/12ZHjABplNLZxvkF1DE1i9

Don&#039;t get me wrong, while I was raised on Macs, I&#039;m not a fanboy, and Apple does some things that really annoy me, but people have latched on to this meme to a ridiculous level.

And equally deserving of criticism are the suppliers of their data, frankly, not just Apple for selecting those suppliers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, you run into exactly the same sort of Dali-esque designs still in Google Earth (Niagra Falls, Canada-US border, Rainbow Bridge):  <a href="http://ubuntuone.com/12ZHjABplNLZxvkF1DE1i9" rel="nofollow">http://ubuntuone.com/12ZHjABplNLZxvkF1DE1i9</a></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, while I was raised on Macs, I&#8217;m not a fanboy, and Apple does some things that really annoy me, but people have latched on to this meme to a ridiculous level.</p>
<p>And equally deserving of criticism are the suppliers of their data, frankly, not just Apple for selecting those suppliers.</p>
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		<title>By: Itsumishi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/20/ios6-maps-fails-so-hard-a-tum.html#comment-1539062</link>
		<dc:creator>Itsumishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 04:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, that&#039;s cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, that&#8217;s cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Stepan Arkadyevich Oblonsky</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/20/ios6-maps-fails-so-hard-a-tum.html#comment-1538519</link>
		<dc:creator>Stepan Arkadyevich Oblonsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 00:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are referring to the Openstreetmap website? Those a just renderers, Openstreetmap is about the database, not what you actually see. Did you check the link in my comment above for example? That is Openstreetmap data. Whenever somebody chooses to implement OSM they are free to render that data however they wish, it is not like embedding a Google map, which just fetches their pre-rendered tiles and displays them. 

OSM is about the database, not the tile renders. The ones on openstreetmap.org are busy, cluttered and badly designed. Currently the most useful and clean interface I have found is the one I posted above http://maps.skobbler.com/ - but there are several others notably http://open.mapquest.co.uk/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are referring to the Openstreetmap website? Those a just renderers, Openstreetmap is about the database, not what you actually see. Did you check the link in my comment above for example? That is Openstreetmap data. Whenever somebody chooses to implement OSM they are free to render that data however they wish, it is not like embedding a Google map, which just fetches their pre-rendered tiles and displays them. </p>
<p>OSM is about the database, not the tile renders. The ones on openstreetmap.org are busy, cluttered and badly designed. Currently the most useful and clean interface I have found is the one I posted above <a href="http://maps.skobbler.com/" rel="nofollow">http://maps.skobbler.com/</a> &#8211; but there are several others notably http://open.mapquest.co.uk/</p>
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		<title>By: The Life Of Bryan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/20/ios6-maps-fails-so-hard-a-tum.html#comment-1537921</link>
		<dc:creator>The Life Of Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no doubt that they had been preparing to cut that cord for a long time. But I also have a lot of trouble believing that Apple would do so when this was the best they had to replace it. This is not the level of pain they would embrace if they had a better choice.

Unfortunately, all us mortals can do is guess. I look forward to some day finding out what actually went on behind the scenes. I’m sure both companies were trying as hard as they possibly could to screw each other. But obviously Google won this round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no doubt that they had been preparing to cut that cord for a long time. But I also have a lot of trouble believing that Apple would do so when this was the best they had to replace it. This is not the level of pain they would embrace if they had a better choice.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, all us mortals can do is guess. I look forward to some day finding out what actually went on behind the scenes. I’m sure both companies were trying as hard as they possibly could to screw each other. But obviously Google won this round.</p>
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		<title>By: matthewfabb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/20/ios6-maps-fails-so-hard-a-tum.html#comment-1537749</link>
		<dc:creator>matthewfabb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s unknown if it was Apple or if it was Google who decided to not to renew the contract. The fact that Google was able to get a new YouTube iOS app out the door in time for the launch of iOS6, but not a Google Maps iOS app makes people wonder if it was Apple, not Google that pulled the plug. Also note Apple has bought 3 different mapping companies (Placebase, Poly9 and C3 Technologies) between 2009 and 2011, which points that it was Apple who behind the decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s unknown if it was Apple or if it was Google who decided to not to renew the contract. The fact that Google was able to get a new YouTube iOS app out the door in time for the launch of iOS6, but not a Google Maps iOS app makes people wonder if it was Apple, not Google that pulled the plug. Also note Apple has bought 3 different mapping companies (Placebase, Poly9 and C3 Technologies) between 2009 and 2011, which points that it was Apple who behind the decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Pavangkanan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/20/ios6-maps-fails-so-hard-a-tum.html#comment-1537668</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Pavangkanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 04:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that&#039;s what I call a reality distortion field </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that&#8217;s what I call a reality distortion field </p>
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		<title>By: pjcamp</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/20/ios6-maps-fails-so-hard-a-tum.html#comment-1537534</link>
		<dc:creator>pjcamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 02:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple -- it just works. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple &#8212; it just works. </p>
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		<title>By: Itsumishi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/20/ios6-maps-fails-so-hard-a-tum.html#comment-1537512</link>
		<dc:creator>Itsumishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 01:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true that Open Street maps has a lot of information. In Melbourne for example they have all the transit routes fairly well laid out. &lt;em&gt;(Although the only reason Google Maps doesn&#039;t have that information is that the absurdly shitty public transport agency responsible for public transport information claims Copyright on most the information Google would need to provide transit directions... grr... getting sidetracked)&lt;/em&gt;. The number of businesses shown in the CBD is alos very extensive. 

On the other hand the open street map simply is hard to read. It looks cluttered, fonts are difficult to read and the extensive colour palate is distracting.

I like the idea, but legibility is extremely important for maps and OSM just isn&#039;t in the same ball park.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true that Open Street maps has a lot of information. In Melbourne for example they have all the transit routes fairly well laid out. <em>(Although the only reason Google Maps doesn&#8217;t have that information is that the absurdly shitty public transport agency responsible for public transport information claims Copyright on most the information Google would need to provide transit directions&#8230; grr&#8230; getting sidetracked)</em>. The number of businesses shown in the CBD is alos very extensive. </p>
<p>On the other hand the open street map simply is hard to read. It looks cluttered, fonts are difficult to read and the extensive colour palate is distracting.</p>
<p>I like the idea, but legibility is extremely important for maps and OSM just isn&#8217;t in the same ball park.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Martin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/20/ios6-maps-fails-so-hard-a-tum.html#comment-1537505</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 01:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay. Honestly, if I had to choose between Apple and nothing, I&#039;d choose...nothing. And go buy a paper map... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay. Honestly, if I had to choose between Apple and nothing, I&#8217;d choose&#8230;nothing. And go buy a paper map&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Itsumishi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/20/ios6-maps-fails-so-hard-a-tum.html#comment-1537498</link>
		<dc:creator>Itsumishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 01:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the fact that Apple doesn&#039;t show 1 way streets. Doesn&#039;t have any transit directions? Doesn&#039;t include Streetview?

All of those things are immensely useful and valuable information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the fact that Apple doesn&#8217;t show 1 way streets. Doesn&#8217;t have any transit directions? Doesn&#8217;t include Streetview?</p>
<p>All of those things are immensely useful and valuable information.</p>
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		<title>By: tvugly</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/20/ios6-maps-fails-so-hard-a-tum.html#comment-1537367</link>
		<dc:creator>tvugly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 23:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Have you used itunes? Not exactly &quot;exactingly flawless&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Have you used itunes? Not exactly &#8220;exactingly flawless&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Everson Bernardes</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/20/ios6-maps-fails-so-hard-a-tum.html#comment-1537333</link>
		<dc:creator>Everson Bernardes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 23:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> They had about five years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> They had about five years.</p>
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		<title>By: Stepan Arkadyevich Oblonsky</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/20/ios6-maps-fails-so-hard-a-tum.html#comment-1537197</link>
		<dc:creator>Stepan Arkadyevich Oblonsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 21:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.openstreetmap.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.openstreetmap.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/20/ios6-maps-fails-so-hard-a-tum.html#comment-1537192</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not the customer; you&#039;re the product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not the customer; you&#8217;re the product.</p>
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		<title>By: Sparg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/20/ios6-maps-fails-so-hard-a-tum.html#comment-1537124</link>
		<dc:creator>Sparg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Wonder if you&#039;d have as much trouble in this elevator as these lads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMS2VnDveP8
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Wonder if you&#8217;d have as much trouble in this elevator as these lads.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMS2VnDveP8" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMS2VnDveP8</a></p>
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		<title>By: vonbobo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vonbobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, considering I can perform a voice search for any business name or address, or category, for anywhere in the world and then I&#039;m given turn by turn directions on how to get there.. all for FREEEE, I guess having one extra click isn&#039;t too bad. It&#039;s a miracle that we even have this technology in the first place, but somehow you are bothered by one extra freaking touch on a touch screen.

By the way- no advertisements on my android.

Enjoy your new imaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, considering I can perform a voice search for any business name or address, or category, for anywhere in the world and then I&#8217;m given turn by turn directions on how to get there.. all for FREEEE, I guess having one extra click isn&#8217;t too bad. It&#8217;s a miracle that we even have this technology in the first place, but somehow you are bothered by one extra freaking touch on a touch screen.</p>
<p>By the way- no advertisements on my android.</p>
<p>Enjoy your new imaps.</p>
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		<title>By: zotlerg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/20/ios6-maps-fails-so-hard-a-tum.html#comment-1537068</link>
		<dc:creator>zotlerg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the UK, &#039;hybrid&#039; mode displays in pixels-as-big-as-a-house resolution, and my own road map overlay disappears altogether! 
Thank-you Google for your world apps. Shame about the nonexistent YouTube app for iPad though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the UK, &#8216;hybrid&#8217; mode displays in pixels-as-big-as-a-house resolution, and my own road map overlay disappears altogether! <br />
Thank-you Google for your world apps. Shame about the nonexistent YouTube app for iPad though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Donald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Donald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s actually a scene from _Inception_.

Ba-dump pssshhhhh.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s actually a scene from _Inception_.</p>
<p>Ba-dump pssshhhhh.</p>
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		<title>By: Ito Kagehisa</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/20/ios6-maps-fails-so-hard-a-tum.html#comment-1537000</link>
		<dc:creator>Ito Kagehisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gestures!  Gestures! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gestures!  Gestures! </p>
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		<title>By: fuzzyfuzzyfungus</title>
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		<dc:creator>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the big &#039;hold or fold&#039; variable that people are speculating on: Apparently Apple spared no expense in rounding up assorted partners with experience and data(tomtom et al. along with that openstreetmap data-dump incident), and got this shit sandwich to show for it.

Google, presumably, knows how much trouble they went to to get Google Maps to where it is, and how fast they think that they can make it better. If they suspect that Apple will iron out the important stuff fast, leaving only a few cute easter eggs(like the giant crushed bug somewhere in germany on google maps), then Google is pretty likely to fold and release an IOS6 standalone map app(if Apple lets them, of course). 

If they know that they&#039;ve been sweating blood and buying up specialist data providers for the last N years to get where they are, letting Apple swing will start looking quite attractive. 

I suspect that it will, partially, depend on the customer response. If customers jump on the &#039;help them fix it&#039; train, the pain points could get cleaned up pretty fast. If they adopt a &#039;I paid premium money for a premium experience and I got &lt;em&gt;this&lt;/em&gt;? Steve is truly dead!&#039; attitude, Apple will have to really bulk up on fix-it interns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the big &#8216;hold or fold&#8217; variable that people are speculating on: Apparently Apple spared no expense in rounding up assorted partners with experience and data(tomtom et al. along with that openstreetmap data-dump incident), and got this shit sandwich to show for it.</p>
<p>Google, presumably, knows how much trouble they went to to get Google Maps to where it is, and how fast they think that they can make it better. If they suspect that Apple will iron out the important stuff fast, leaving only a few cute easter eggs(like the giant crushed bug somewhere in germany on google maps), then Google is pretty likely to fold and release an IOS6 standalone map app(if Apple lets them, of course). </p>
<p>If they know that they&#8217;ve been sweating blood and buying up specialist data providers for the last N years to get where they are, letting Apple swing will start looking quite attractive. </p>
<p>I suspect that it will, partially, depend on the customer response. If customers jump on the &#8216;help them fix it&#8217; train, the pain points could get cleaned up pretty fast. If they adopt a &#8216;I paid premium money for a premium experience and I got <em>this</em>? Steve is truly dead!&#8217; attitude, Apple will have to really bulk up on fix-it interns.</p>
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		<title>By: xzzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>xzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google already is incorporating advertising into their maps. My wife regularly gets &quot;sponsored destinations&quot; when searching for destinations on her OG iPad.

Which is a shit thing for them to do. You search for a local burger place, it keys off the word burger, and tries to route you to a McDonald&#039;s instead. Extra taps to abort the advertisement so you can get to where you really want to go is seriously annoying.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google already is incorporating advertising into their maps. My wife regularly gets &#8220;sponsored destinations&#8221; when searching for destinations on her OG iPad.</p>
<p>Which is a shit thing for them to do. You search for a local burger place, it keys off the word burger, and tries to route you to a McDonald&#8217;s instead. Extra taps to abort the advertisement so you can get to where you really want to go is seriously annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Brad Hicks</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Brad Hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google complained for over a year that they kept sending upgrades to Apple to include in their iOS maps, and Apple kept refusing to incorporate them. As a result, iOS&#039;s Maps was falling behind even before iOS 6. That I use mass transit a lot, and that Android&#039;s mass transit UI was stop-by-stop and turn-by-turn was #2 on the list of reasons I dumped the iPhone and went Android a year ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google complained for over a year that they kept sending upgrades to Apple to include in their iOS maps, and Apple kept refusing to incorporate them. As a result, iOS&#8217;s Maps was falling behind even before iOS 6. That I use mass transit a lot, and that Android&#8217;s mass transit UI was stop-by-stop and turn-by-turn was #2 on the list of reasons I dumped the iPhone and went Android a year ago.</p>
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		<title>By: benher</title>
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		<dc:creator>benher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too much of a rush. Here in Japan, 2 of the train stations have been renamed to &quot;McDonalds station&quot; and &quot;Gundam Pachinko station.&quot; And no, I really really really am not joking. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too much of a rush. Here in Japan, 2 of the train stations have been renamed to &#8220;McDonalds station&#8221; and &#8220;Gundam Pachinko station.&#8221; And no, I really really really am not joking. <br />
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		<title>By: retepslluerb</title>
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		<dc:creator>retepslluerb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, those two get my money about once a year. when I&#039;m travelling.  

But they made a good test, as I wanted to drive to an address near Burger King. 

Siri recognized Burger King (which surprised me, as it is easily confused by Germans using English), but then went on to direct me to an address some 35 km away.

Oh, I have to correct myself: If I do an textual search in the app itself, it shows all three restaurants.

Still bad, as one of the main selling points is telling Siri where to drive. 

Also, the map server is down. No map. No directions.  Well, iOS launches to tend to kill services for a couple of hours. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, those two get my money about once a year. when I&#8217;m travelling.  </p>
<p>But they made a good test, as I wanted to drive to an address near Burger King. </p>
<p>Siri recognized Burger King (which surprised me, as it is easily confused by Germans using English), but then went on to direct me to an address some 35 km away.</p>
<p>Oh, I have to correct myself: If I do an textual search in the app itself, it shows all three restaurants.</p>
<p>Still bad, as one of the main selling points is telling Siri where to drive. </p>
<p>Also, the map server is down. No map. No directions.  Well, iOS launches to tend to kill services for a couple of hours. </p>
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		<title>By: vonbobo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vonbobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your example is still Apple&#039;s snit, not Googles.

Bottom line is Apple was reliant upon a competitors application and they needed to get out from under that relationship. If anything, Apple is too late and too short in this round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your example is still Apple&#8217;s snit, not Googles.</p>
<p>Bottom line is Apple was reliant upon a competitors application and they needed to get out from under that relationship. If anything, Apple is too late and too short in this round.</p>
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		<title>By: TheKaz1969</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheKaz1969</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is all part of the master plan... Apple will go in, destroy all these roads so they actually look like that, and then sue Google Maps when they adjust for it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is all part of the master plan&#8230; Apple will go in, destroy all these roads so they actually look like that, and then sue Google Maps when they adjust for it!</p>
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		<title>By: DewiMorgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>DewiMorgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is actually them experimenting with powering apple in an eco-friendly manner.
They released this early, and are now getting power from Steve Jobs spinning in his grave. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is actually them experimenting with powering apple in an eco-friendly manner.<br />
They released this early, and are now getting power from Steve Jobs spinning in his grave. </p>
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		<title>By: simonbarsinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>simonbarsinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I would consider that you are looking for McDonalds or Burger King more of an issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I would consider that you are looking for McDonalds or Burger King more of an issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew from Zhrodague</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew from Zhrodague</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Combining map data from multiple sources is kinda hard, and can produce goofy artifacts, that we&#039;re seeing. Give &#039;em a break. OSM is a good project, and something like this should help (Apple) contribute to OSM, making more accurate and better looking maps.

When I created WiFiMaps.com in March &#039;02 (before Google Maps), we used TIGER from the US Census (With Mapserver/OGR/GDAL). It was necessary to do a lot of processing on the layers to strip out the non-important data, and try tons of things to get the streets to line-up with the aerial imagery. There was still some odd artifacts, and it did help to have feedback from the users.

WiFiMaps was me and another dude. Apple and Google have thousands of employees. This stuff is still new, so give &#039;em a break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Combining map data from multiple sources is kinda hard, and can produce goofy artifacts, that we&#8217;re seeing. Give &#8216;em a break. OSM is a good project, and something like this should help (Apple) contribute to OSM, making more accurate and better looking maps.</p>
<p>When I created WiFiMaps.com in March &#8217;02 (before Google Maps), we used TIGER from the US Census (With Mapserver/OGR/GDAL). It was necessary to do a lot of processing on the layers to strip out the non-important data, and try tons of things to get the streets to line-up with the aerial imagery. There was still some odd artifacts, and it did help to have feedback from the users.</p>
<p>WiFiMaps was me and another dude. Apple and Google have thousands of employees. This stuff is still new, so give &#8216;em a break.</p>
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		<title>By: retepslluerb</title>
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		<dc:creator>retepslluerb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus small pedestrian paths.  Google just displays a green emptiness, while OSM shows paths I didn&#039;t even know about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus small pedestrian paths.  Google just displays a green emptiness, while OSM shows paths I didn&#8217;t even know about.</p>
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