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	<title>Comments on: Guy trying to cure friend&#039;s hiccups accidentally kills&#160;him</title>
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		<title>By: invictus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1545205</link>
		<dc:creator>invictus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 14:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make a valid point. The question I would ask as a follow-up is whether imprisoning this man for manslaughter is going to decrease the likelihood of this happening again. In the specific circumstances presented here, I doubt it: I&#039;ll bet he wasn&#039;t thinking of possible consequences when he pulled the gun. Even if the possible punishment was truly horrific, I doubt it would have stopped him.

In a more broad sense of &quot;people doing stupid shit with guns,&quot; though... Maybe. So perhaps there is a point to his prosecution after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a valid point. The question I would ask as a follow-up is whether imprisoning this man for manslaughter is going to decrease the likelihood of this happening again. In the specific circumstances presented here, I doubt it: I&#8217;ll bet he wasn&#8217;t thinking of possible consequences when he pulled the gun. Even if the possible punishment was truly horrific, I doubt it would have stopped him.</p>
<p>In a more broad sense of &#8220;people doing stupid shit with guns,&#8221; though&#8230; Maybe. So perhaps there is a point to his prosecution after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Itsumishi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542754</link>
		<dc:creator>Itsumishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 01:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;Isaac Lawrence Young, 22, was drinking and watching football with his buddies&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

You&#039;re a sharp one aren&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Isaac Lawrence Young, 22, was drinking and watching football with his buddies&#8221;</em></p>
<p>You&#8217;re a sharp one aren&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Petersen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542658</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About a hundred years ago, a 12-year-old military academy student was demonstrating some drill technique at a party at his parents&#039; home.  A rifle had inadvertently been left loaded, and during the demonstration, the 12-year-old accidentally shot a 16-year-old female friend in the face, killing her instantly.  The boy was distraught and haunted for the rest of his life by what he&#039;d done.  He was Adlai Stevenson II, grandson of Grover Cleveland&#039;s vice president, future Governor of Illinois, the guy who ran against Eisenhower on the Democratic ticket in 1952 and 1956, and the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations from 1961 to 1965.  He was the guy who, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, pointedly asked the Soviet delegate if the USSR was installing missiles in Cuba, and told him he was &quot;prepared to wait for my answer until Hell freezes over.&quot;

Shit happens, and factors like youth, inexperience, and chemical impairment greatly increase the chances of shit happening.  But compassion is always called for.  If we can&#039;t learn from our mistakes we&#039;ll never survive as a species.  And when one life is destroyed by someone&#039;s gross miscalculation or horrific blunder, we might consider it worthwhile to try and prevent that blunder from utterly destroying even more lives than it has already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About a hundred years ago, a 12-year-old military academy student was demonstrating some drill technique at a party at his parents&#8217; home.  A rifle had inadvertently been left loaded, and during the demonstration, the 12-year-old accidentally shot a 16-year-old female friend in the face, killing her instantly.  The boy was distraught and haunted for the rest of his life by what he&#8217;d done.  He was Adlai Stevenson II, grandson of Grover Cleveland&#8217;s vice president, future Governor of Illinois, the guy who ran against Eisenhower on the Democratic ticket in 1952 and 1956, and the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations from 1961 to 1965.  He was the guy who, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, pointedly asked the Soviet delegate if the USSR was installing missiles in Cuba, and told him he was &#8220;prepared to wait for my answer until Hell freezes over.&#8221;</p>
<p>Shit happens, and factors like youth, inexperience, and chemical impairment greatly increase the chances of shit happening.  But compassion is always called for.  If we can&#8217;t learn from our mistakes we&#8217;ll never survive as a species.  And when one life is destroyed by someone&#8217;s gross miscalculation or horrific blunder, we might consider it worthwhile to try and prevent that blunder from utterly destroying even more lives than it has already.</p>
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		<title>By: James Penrose</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Penrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> One form of manslaughter is the negligent killing of another person without intent to do so.  I&#039;d say this is a textbook case.  There *no* accidents when the gun is in your hand:  *You* are always and forever responsible for what the gun does.  It does not do things on its own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> One form of manslaughter is the negligent killing of another person without intent to do so.  I&#8217;d say this is a textbook case.  There *no* accidents when the gun is in your hand:  *You* are always and forever responsible for what the gun does.  It does not do things on its own.</p>
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		<title>By: James Penrose</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542613</link>
		<dc:creator>James Penrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anypne care to bet there was just a wee spot of drinking or smoking funny stuff going on before this lesson in applied ballistics occurred? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anypne care to bet there was just a wee spot of drinking or smoking funny stuff going on before this lesson in applied ballistics occurred? </p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542545</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the hiccups once, until I took a bullet to the face</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the hiccups once, until I took a bullet to the face</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542540</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nah, associations count, he was in a room drunk with his gun flashing buddeh. Cultural Toxoplasmosis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nah, associations count, he was in a room drunk with his gun flashing buddeh. Cultural Toxoplasmosis.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister44</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542479</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I didn&#039;t catch that was him. And Ive seen that movie dozens of times. Huh - thanks for the heads up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I didn&#8217;t catch that was him. And Ive seen that movie dozens of times. Huh &#8211; thanks for the heads up.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Hornby</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542433</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Hornby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we could only call Darwin on this one if he shot himself trying to cure the hiccups.  Which, admittedly, would have made for a much more entertaining story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we could only call Darwin on this one if he shot himself trying to cure the hiccups.  Which, admittedly, would have made for a much more entertaining story.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc45</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542312</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darwin strikes again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darwin strikes again!</p>
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		<title>By: robdobbs</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542255</link>
		<dc:creator>robdobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A proud graduate of the Dick Cheney School of Gun Safety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A proud graduate of the Dick Cheney School of Gun Safety.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramone</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542082</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the guy with hiccups had also had a firearm this never would have happened. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the guy with hiccups had also had a firearm this never would have happened. </p>
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		<title>By: Ramone</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542081</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, he was Buddy Holly at Jackrabbit Slims. And I didn&#039;t even IMDB that one. We just watched it on Blu Ray last week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, he was Buddy Holly at Jackrabbit Slims. And I didn&#8217;t even IMDB that one. We just watched it on Blu Ray last week.</p>
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		<title>By: Lobster</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542062</link>
		<dc:creator>Lobster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guns don&#039;t cure hiccups, people cure hiccups. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guns don&#8217;t cure hiccups, people cure hiccups. </p>
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		<title>By: invictus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542057</link>
		<dc:creator>invictus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, sadly. I&#039;m not sure if classifying an accident as manslaughter is going to improve things here.

Also, making a guess since the story is light on details, I believe this was the man&#039;s personal firearm, not a military-issued weapon. I&#039;m getting the impression this didn&#039;t happen on base, since it was the city PD that responded, not the MPs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, sadly. I&#8217;m not sure if classifying an accident as manslaughter is going to improve things here.</p>
<p>Also, making a guess since the story is light on details, I believe this was the man&#8217;s personal firearm, not a military-issued weapon. I&#8217;m getting the impression this didn&#8217;t happen on base, since it was the city PD that responded, not the MPs.</p>
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		<title>By: invictus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542054</link>
		<dc:creator>invictus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear they have empathy classes for people like you. You should look into those. (or, as you would call them, emphasis lessons)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear they have empathy classes for people like you. You should look into those. (or, as you would call them, emphasis lessons)</p>
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		<title>By: hhlbbcnofn pi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542036</link>
		<dc:creator>hhlbbcnofn pi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This, along with the gun method, has been documented - 
http://www.musanim.com/mam/hiccup.htm
And the gun method has caused a death before!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This, along with the gun method, has been documented &#8211;<br />
<a href="http://www.musanim.com/mam/hiccup.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.musanim.com/mam/hiccup.htm</a><br />
And the gun method has caused a death before!</p>
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		<title>By: Felton / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felton / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was in it for maybe one minute as a waiter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was in it for maybe one minute as a waiter.</p>
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		<title>By: Florian Bösch</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542030</link>
		<dc:creator>Florian Bösch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got a really hard time emphasizing with a guy who shot his friend in the face while drunk trying to cure his hickup. If you&#039;ve got friends like that, you&#039;re set for your short and sorry life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got a really hard time emphasizing with a guy who shot his friend in the face while drunk trying to cure his hickup. If you&#8217;ve got friends like that, you&#8217;re set for your short and sorry life.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister44</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542017</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI - #1 rule of gun handling is never point it at anyone. Be safe! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI &#8211; #1 rule of gun handling is never point it at anyone. Be safe! </p>
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		<title>By: Mister44</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542016</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I don&#039;t think Steve Buscemi was in Pulp Fiction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I don&#8217;t think Steve Buscemi was in Pulp Fiction.</p>
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		<title>By: benher</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542008</link>
		<dc:creator>benher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gun jokes/diatribes aside... 

Can you imagine the sobering moment of horror as you watch your friend&#039;s face explode into red in front of you and the shock setting in of what you&#039;d just done and can never ever undo... All blame aside, what a horrific tragedy. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gun jokes/diatribes aside&#8230; </p>
<p>Can you imagine the sobering moment of horror as you watch your friend&#8217;s face explode into red in front of you and the shock setting in of what you&#8217;d just done and can never ever undo&#8230; All blame aside, what a horrific tragedy. </p>
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		<title>By: benher</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542006</link>
		<dc:creator>benher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... Are you trying to tell me that something has befallen Steve Buscemi? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; Are you trying to tell me that something has befallen Steve Buscemi? </p>
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		<title>By: benher</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1542005</link>
		<dc:creator>benher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t there a Wesley Snipes movie about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t there a Wesley Snipes movie about that?</p>
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		<title>By: bcsizemo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1541978</link>
		<dc:creator>bcsizemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s like real life Pulp Fiction... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s like real life Pulp Fiction&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: msbpodcast</title>
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		<dc:creator>msbpodcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, to be fair, the guy no longer has the hiccups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, to be fair, the guy no longer has the hiccups.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychedelic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psychedelic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:D </description>
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		<title>By: Joseph Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I have a hiccup cure that never fails.</description>
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		<title>By: Sasha@librtee</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1541943</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasha@librtee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that happened to me a couple times, really bad luck there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that happened to me a couple times, really bad luck there.</p>
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		<title>By: Wreckrob8</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/25/guy-trying-to-cure-friends-h.html#comment-1541935</link>
		<dc:creator>Wreckrob8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could be that&#039;s where he wanted to stick his gun anyway and the hiccup cure thing was just a ruse.
Just a case of premature ejaculation, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could be that&#8217;s where he wanted to stick his gun anyway and the hiccup cure thing was just a ruse.<br />
Just a case of premature ejaculation, really.</p>
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