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		<title>By: pjcamp</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1545037</link>
		<dc:creator>pjcamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 04:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Antinous:

I feel like I&#039;ve walked through the looking glass here. Yes, &quot;As has been pointed out, it&#039;s not theft, it&#039;s fraud.&quot; Indeed.  *I* pointed that out. This has been my entire point from the beginning and it is totally bizarre to find myself taken to task for saying the exact opposite of what I actually said. I quote myself from above &quot;But surely that&#039;s just garden variety fraud.&quot;

Copying oneself without attribution is not plagiarism. It is fraud. You can think if it as theft if you want (I do) but I&#039;m not insisting on that. What I am insisting on, since my first post above (read them if you don&#039;t believe me) is that plagiarism necessarily involves using *someone elses* words. If there isn&#039;t a second person involved, it isn&#039;t plagiarism. Consequently, self-plagiarism doesn&#039;t exist.

You said  &quot;We have a word for this: plagiarism.&quot; No, that word doesn&#039;t go with that act. That is what Kant called a category error. Plagiarism means copying someone else, not copying one&#039;s self.

I give up. It was a small point to begin with and isn&#039;t worth all this effort. I&#039;m going to stick to making jokes from now on. Everyone as you were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Antinous:</p>
<p>I feel like I&#8217;ve walked through the looking glass here. Yes, &#8220;As has been pointed out, it&#8217;s not theft, it&#8217;s fraud.&#8221; Indeed.  *I* pointed that out. This has been my entire point from the beginning and it is totally bizarre to find myself taken to task for saying the exact opposite of what I actually said. I quote myself from above &#8220;But surely that&#8217;s just garden variety fraud.&#8221;</p>
<p>Copying oneself without attribution is not plagiarism. It is fraud. You can think if it as theft if you want (I do) but I&#8217;m not insisting on that. What I am insisting on, since my first post above (read them if you don&#8217;t believe me) is that plagiarism necessarily involves using *someone elses* words. If there isn&#8217;t a second person involved, it isn&#8217;t plagiarism. Consequently, self-plagiarism doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>You said  &#8220;We have a word for this: plagiarism.&#8221; No, that word doesn&#8217;t go with that act. That is what Kant called a category error. Plagiarism means copying someone else, not copying one&#8217;s self.</p>
<p>I give up. It was a small point to begin with and isn&#8217;t worth all this effort. I&#8217;m going to stick to making jokes from now on. Everyone as you were.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1544855</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 20:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Words mean what they mean and not something else.&lt;/blockquote&gt;And yet you continue to insist on your own personal definition.  You keep calling it theft despite your own dictionary quotes not using that word.  As has been pointed out, it&#039;s not theft, it&#039;s fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Words mean what they mean and not something else.</p></blockquote>
<p>And yet you continue to insist on your own personal definition.  You keep calling it theft despite your own dictionary quotes not using that word.  As has been pointed out, it&#8217;s not theft, it&#8217;s fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: pjcamp</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1544704</link>
		<dc:creator>pjcamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 15:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> To Girard:

No, it&#039;s not. That&#039;s the point. Plagiarism involves using the work of SOMEONE ELSE without attribution. If you recycle your own work, attributions or no, that is not plagiarism. Read the dictionary. God, I didn&#039;t think this would generate such a dispute! Words mean what they mean and not something else. Passing off your own thinking as your own is surely a different category of error than passing of someone else&#039;s thinking as your own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> To Girard:</p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s not. That&#8217;s the point. Plagiarism involves using the work of SOMEONE ELSE without attribution. If you recycle your own work, attributions or no, that is not plagiarism. Read the dictionary. God, I didn&#8217;t think this would generate such a dispute! Words mean what they mean and not something else. Passing off your own thinking as your own is surely a different category of error than passing of someone else&#8217;s thinking as your own.</p>
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		<title>By: Girard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1544676</link>
		<dc:creator>Girard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 13:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> You&#039;re acting like Boing Boing just invented the term &quot;self-plagiarism.&quot; &lt;i&gt;It&#039;s the word for what he did.&lt;/i&gt;

Plagiarism is publishing work without proper attributions. If you publish your own, older work, without the proper attributions/citations, it is plagiarism. The difference is that rather than mistaking your work for someone else&#039;s, people will mistake your old work for your new work. Plagiarism is more akin to fraud than to theft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> You&#8217;re acting like Boing Boing just invented the term &#8220;self-plagiarism.&#8221; <i>It&#8217;s the word for what he did.</i></p>
<p>Plagiarism is publishing work without proper attributions. If you publish your own, older work, without the proper attributions/citations, it is plagiarism. The difference is that rather than mistaking your work for someone else&#8217;s, people will mistake your old work for your new work. Plagiarism is more akin to fraud than to theft.</p>
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		<title>By: Girard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1544670</link>
		<dc:creator>Girard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 13:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Self-plagiarism&quot; is a legitimate term for a legitimate transgression. It means you can&#039;t publish old research/writing as new research writing, as that is fraudulent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Self-plagiarism&#8221; is a legitimate term for a legitimate transgression. It means you can&#8217;t publish old research/writing as new research writing, as that is fraudulent.</p>
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		<title>By: Girard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1544669</link>
		<dc:creator>Girard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 13:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of those ethical transgressions? Not &quot;mistakes,&quot; to him, apparently. &quot;Getting caught,&quot; appears to be the only thing he regrets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of those ethical transgressions? Not &#8220;mistakes,&#8221; to him, apparently. &#8220;Getting caught,&#8221; appears to be the only thing he regrets.</p>
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		<title>By: pjcamp</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1544358</link>
		<dc:creator>pjcamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antinous/Moderator Says:&quot;We have a word for this: plagiarism.  You&#039;ve equated plagiarism with theft and then made your argument based on that definition.&quot;

Plagarism IS a form of theft. That&#039;s the only point I was making. According to Mr. Webster plagiarism means:

VERB:
tr.
1. To use and pass off (the ideas or writings of another) as one&#039;s own. 2. To appropriate for use as one&#039;s own passages or ideas from (another).
 VERB:
  intr.
 To put forth as original to oneself the ideas or words of another.

Since the ideas and words came from himself, and not from another person, whatever he did cannot properly be called plagiarism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antinous/Moderator Says:&#8221;We have a word for this: plagiarism.  You&#8217;ve equated plagiarism with theft and then made your argument based on that definition.&#8221;</p>
<p>Plagarism IS a form of theft. That&#8217;s the only point I was making. According to Mr. Webster plagiarism means:</p>
<p>VERB:<br />
tr.<br />
1. To use and pass off (the ideas or writings of another) as one&#8217;s own. 2. To appropriate for use as one&#8217;s own passages or ideas from (another).<br />
 VERB:<br />
  intr.<br />
 To put forth as original to oneself the ideas or words of another.</p>
<p>Since the ideas and words came from himself, and not from another person, whatever he did cannot properly be called plagiarism.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1544305</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You can&#039;t steal something that belongs to you.&lt;/blockquote&gt;That&#039;s why he&#039;s not being accused of stealing his own work.  We have a word for this: plagiarism.  You&#039;ve equated plagiarism with theft and then made your argument based on that definition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You can&#8217;t steal something that belongs to you.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s why he&#8217;s not being accused of stealing his own work.  We have a word for this: plagiarism.  You&#8217;ve equated plagiarism with theft and then made your argument based on that definition.</p>
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		<title>By: pjcamp</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1544161</link>
		<dc:creator>pjcamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d certainly call it fraud but not plagiarism. Plagiarism involves stealing someone else&#039;s work. You can&#039;t steal something that belongs to you. What you can do is pass it off as new work when it isn&#039;t and accept payment under false pretenses. But that is fraud. You didn&#039;t steal someone else&#039;s work. You just pretended that what you were selling was something it was not. It is more analogous to the guy with the overcoat full of watches than it is to a student copying and pasting from Wikipedia. I&#039;m not saying it isn&#039;t wrong, it just isn&#039;t wrong in that particular way. My institution considers submitting the same paper for two different assignments as a separate type of violation from plagiarism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d certainly call it fraud but not plagiarism. Plagiarism involves stealing someone else&#8217;s work. You can&#8217;t steal something that belongs to you. What you can do is pass it off as new work when it isn&#8217;t and accept payment under false pretenses. But that is fraud. You didn&#8217;t steal someone else&#8217;s work. You just pretended that what you were selling was something it was not. It is more analogous to the guy with the overcoat full of watches than it is to a student copying and pasting from Wikipedia. I&#8217;m not saying it isn&#8217;t wrong, it just isn&#8217;t wrong in that particular way. My institution considers submitting the same paper for two different assignments as a separate type of violation from plagiarism.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Pease</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1544124</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Pease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he copied his own previously published works without credit.  what would you call that?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he copied his own previously published works without credit.  what would you call that?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Holmén</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1544030</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Holmén</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 13:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> A distinction without a difference, I&#039;m afraid, possibly due to journalism being run on an entertainment business model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> A distinction without a difference, I&#8217;m afraid, possibly due to journalism being run on an entertainment business model.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Zunenshine</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1544012</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Zunenshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 13:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott Templeton? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Templeton? </p>
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		<title>By: pjcamp</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1543975</link>
		<dc:creator>pjcamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> But surely that&#039;s just garden variety fraud. Plagiarism is &quot; to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one&#039;s own&quot; (it says right here in the Merriam Webster). In fact, all the dictionaries at OneLook agree on that. So while what he did is certainly unethical, plagiarism seems like the kind of thing that, by definition, one cannot do to oneself. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> But surely that&#8217;s just garden variety fraud. Plagiarism is &#8221; to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one&#8217;s own&#8221; (it says right here in the Merriam Webster). In fact, all the dictionaries at OneLook agree on that. So while what he did is certainly unethical, plagiarism seems like the kind of thing that, by definition, one cannot do to oneself. </p>
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		<title>By: Logan Roots</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1543948</link>
		<dc:creator>Logan Roots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: benher</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1543933</link>
		<dc:creator>benher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Now even more readers will believe journalists really are willing—as the saying goes—to make stuff up to sell newspapers, magazines, books.&quot;
Gasp! Now, at this precise moment in time, I have finally realized that journalists sometimes distort reality in order to produce crap to sell adspace - and may even do so... FOR MONEY! Dum Dum DUM DUMMMM!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Now even more readers will believe journalists really are willing—as the saying goes—to make stuff up to sell newspapers, magazines, books.&#8221;<br />
Gasp! Now, at this precise moment in time, I have finally realized that journalists sometimes distort reality in order to produce crap to sell adspace &#8211; and may even do so&#8230; FOR MONEY! Dum Dum DUM DUMMMM!!</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan McGuigan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1543916</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan McGuigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 08:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kind of hope Wallace never actually got in touch with Leher, and just made up all the quotes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of hope Wallace never actually got in touch with Leher, and just made up all the quotes.</p>
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		<title>By: SedanChair</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1543880</link>
		<dc:creator>SedanChair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 06:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) this guy
2) Mike Daisey 
3) Paul Ryan

Folks like this are my #1 pet peeve in the whole world. I can deal with people who have some degree of self-awareness when they lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) this guy<br />
2) Mike Daisey <br />
3) Paul Ryan</p>
<p>Folks like this are my #1 pet peeve in the whole world. I can deal with people who have some degree of self-awareness when they lie.</p>
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		<title>By: retepslluerb</title>
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		<dc:creator>retepslluerb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 06:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, like “the Mistake“. 


Edit: This should have been a reply to @Brainspore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, like “the Mistake“. </p>
<p>Edit: This should have been a reply to @Brainspore.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Park</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1543834</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 04:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You find me a PR person who wants their words re-written when using a press release and I&#039;ll consider giving them attribution. PR is about gaining exposure and making a journalists life as easy as possible. If they produce content that tailored, fitting and works with the body copy there is no reason not to use it and no sensible reason to break up the narrative with attribution. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You find me a PR person who wants their words re-written when using a press release and I&#8217;ll consider giving them attribution. PR is about gaining exposure and making a journalists life as easy as possible. If they produce content that tailored, fitting and works with the body copy there is no reason not to use it and no sensible reason to break up the narrative with attribution. </p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Park</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1543833</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 04:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>journalism is a form of entertainment. we don&#039;t all sit around in drawing rooms studying the new york times looking for an education. Granted, this guy told fibs but it&#039;s pissed of some muso&#039;s... it&#039;s hardly a war crime. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>journalism is a form of entertainment. we don&#8217;t all sit around in drawing rooms studying the new york times looking for an education. Granted, this guy told fibs but it&#8217;s pissed of some muso&#8217;s&#8230; it&#8217;s hardly a war crime. </p>
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		<title>By: Dave Pease</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1543832</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Pease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 04:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its pretty simple. write something, sell it to outlet a. wait n months, sell it to outlet b as new material.

lehrer&#039;s career is fucked sideways and he doesn&#039;t even seem to know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its pretty simple. write something, sell it to outlet a. wait n months, sell it to outlet b as new material.</p>
<p>lehrer&#8217;s career is fucked sideways and he doesn&#8217;t even seem to know it.</p>
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		<title>By: echar</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1543789</link>
		<dc:creator>echar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 03:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait for the movie, the video game, the toys, and the fast food cups. </description>
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		<title>By: pebird</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1543742</link>
		<dc:creator>pebird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 02:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, in that they wasted your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, in that they wasted your time.</p>
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		<title>By: pjcamp</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1543730</link>
		<dc:creator>pjcamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 01:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does one plagiarize oneself? That sounds like a category error. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does one plagiarize oneself? That sounds like a category error. </p>
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		<title>By: Halloween_Jack</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1543722</link>
		<dc:creator>Halloween_Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 01:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, to the extent that he replied at all, he deflected questions by saying that he was using his behavior as the grist for another article. I don&#039;t know if he realizes just how badly his reputation was hurt. 

I think that a big part of the backlash can be explained by this: &quot;(it had felt good to say the City of Angels had a resident big thinker, its own Malcolm Gladwell)&quot;. Gladwell isn&#039;t necessarily regarded that well by everyone, either. Counter-intuitive bullshitting (to use Coates&#039; phrase) is a fairly slender reed to build an entire career on, at best. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, to the extent that he replied at all, he deflected questions by saying that he was using his behavior as the grist for another article. I don&#8217;t know if he realizes just how badly his reputation was hurt. </p>
<p>I think that a big part of the backlash can be explained by this: &#8220;(it had felt good to say the City of Angels had a resident big thinker, its own Malcolm Gladwell)&#8221;. Gladwell isn&#8217;t necessarily regarded that well by everyone, either. Counter-intuitive bullshitting (to use Coates&#8217; phrase) is a fairly slender reed to build an entire career on, at best. </p>
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		<title>By: Halloween_Jack</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1543715</link>
		<dc:creator>Halloween_Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 01:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> For the same reason you&#039;d justifiably heap scorn on someone who cheated at Monopoly, even though only play money is at stake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> For the same reason you&#8217;d justifiably heap scorn on someone who cheated at Monopoly, even though only play money is at stake.</p>
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		<title>By: TheOtherBen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1543700</link>
		<dc:creator>TheOtherBen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 01:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, he got caught lying in this piece as well. He says that Wallace is only the third person to contact him to get his side of the story when, in fact, it has been reported that many more attempts have been made to contact him:

http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/189670/how-many-journalists-directly-contacted-jonah-lehrer-about-fabrication-plagiarism-accusations/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, he got caught lying in this piece as well. He says that Wallace is only the third person to contact him to get his side of the story when, in fact, it has been reported that many more attempts have been made to contact him:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/189670/how-many-journalists-directly-contacted-jonah-lehrer-about-fabrication-plagiarism-accusations/" rel="nofollow">http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/189670/how-many-journalists-directly-contacted-jonah-lehrer-about-fabrication-plagiarism-accusations/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1543699</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 01:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s entertainment, not journalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s entertainment, not journalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Holmén</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1543694</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Holmén</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 00:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> People still watch and pay for professional wrestling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> People still watch and pay for professional wrestling.</p>
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		<title>By: Boris Bartlog</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/27/disgraced-new-yorker.html#comment-1543692</link>
		<dc:creator>Boris Bartlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 00:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I expect there are enough talented would-be journalists that there isn&#039;t any reason to lower the bar for Lehrer. Time for him to find another line of work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expect there are enough talented would-be journalists that there isn&#8217;t any reason to lower the bar for Lehrer. Time for him to find another line of work.</p>
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