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	<title>Comments on: iPad left at airport checkpoint ends up at TSA inspector&#039;s&#160;house</title>
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		<title>By: Meaghan Quinn</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1545278</link>
		<dc:creator>Meaghan Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all that their security is pretty much exactly the same as the states, Canada does it better. CATSA has independent, unionized security staff, overseen by a Crown-corporation. Staff has the oversight of a quasi-federal body, which allows for levels of reprimand. The staff has to pass CATSA&#039;s regular testing and when they get caught stealing, the investigation is on behalf of the taxpayer/customer, not covering their own butts, because these are independent contractors. If CATSA recommends a dismissal, the employee is still with the security firm and maybe should just be a mall-cop, but at least CATSA washes their hands of an employee not up to snuff. CATSA is dependent on how well it manages its own contract with the Canadian gov to keep funding and has a set budget.

But it&#039;s still faulty and things get through and people are randomly hassled for no good reason. So let&#039;s keep debating how to do this stupid thing, because the how matters so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all that their security is pretty much exactly the same as the states, Canada does it better. CATSA has independent, unionized security staff, overseen by a Crown-corporation. Staff has the oversight of a quasi-federal body, which allows for levels of reprimand. The staff has to pass CATSA&#8217;s regular testing and when they get caught stealing, the investigation is on behalf of the taxpayer/customer, not covering their own butts, because these are independent contractors. If CATSA recommends a dismissal, the employee is still with the security firm and maybe should just be a mall-cop, but at least CATSA washes their hands of an employee not up to snuff. CATSA is dependent on how well it manages its own contract with the Canadian gov to keep funding and has a set budget.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s still faulty and things get through and people are randomly hassled for no good reason. So let&#8217;s keep debating how to do this stupid thing, because the how matters so much.</p>
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		<title>By: ROSSINDETROIT</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1545172</link>
		<dc:creator>ROSSINDETROIT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 11:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve passed through 5 airports in 2 countries in the last 4 days.  Security theater occupied approximately 3 hours of my week.  We carry special laptops for our jobs and are instructed never to let them out of our sight.  One of our colleagues put his in checked baggage and never saw it again.  Tools are our worst worry.  Special electrical meters costing upwards of $5K are disassembled and the ruined parts tossed back in the tool box.  Wrenches with proprietary bits that are essential for our jobs disappear even though they are of no use to anyone else.  Flashlights, screwdrivers, Allen wrenches, pliers, Zip ties, etc. all vanish mysteriously from checked baggage.  In Puebla, Mexico yesterday the metal fork was confiscated from my backpack&#039;s cutlery set.  That&#039;s OK, though because once past security you can appropriate one from the concourse restaurant before getting on the plane.  You fail. Mexican TSA-equivalent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve passed through 5 airports in 2 countries in the last 4 days.  Security theater occupied approximately 3 hours of my week.  We carry special laptops for our jobs and are instructed never to let them out of our sight.  One of our colleagues put his in checked baggage and never saw it again.  Tools are our worst worry.  Special electrical meters costing upwards of $5K are disassembled and the ruined parts tossed back in the tool box.  Wrenches with proprietary bits that are essential for our jobs disappear even though they are of no use to anyone else.  Flashlights, screwdrivers, Allen wrenches, pliers, Zip ties, etc. all vanish mysteriously from checked baggage.  In Puebla, Mexico yesterday the metal fork was confiscated from my backpack&#8217;s cutlery set.  That&#8217;s OK, though because once past security you can appropriate one from the concourse restaurant before getting on the plane.  You fail. Mexican TSA-equivalent.</p>
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		<title>By: Thad Boyd</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1545074</link>
		<dc:creator>Thad Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 05:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The agency disputes that theft is a widespread problem, however, saying the number of officers fired &quot;represents less than one-half of one percent of officers that have been employed&quot; by TSA.&lt;/blockquote&gt;What&#039;s the percent that&#039;s been fired for breaking urine bags, making people remove their prosthetics, or any of the other horrible shit I read about in any given BoingBoing article about the TSA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The agency disputes that theft is a widespread problem, however, saying the number of officers fired &#8220;represents less than one-half of one percent of officers that have been employed&#8221; by TSA.</p></blockquote>
<p>What&#8217;s the percent that&#8217;s been fired for breaking urine bags, making people remove their prosthetics, or any of the other horrible shit I read about in any given BoingBoing article about the TSA?</p>
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		<title>By: B E Pratt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544978</link>
		<dc:creator>B E Pratt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 01:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Uh....I wouldn&#039;t bet on that one....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Uh&#8230;.I wouldn&#8217;t bet on that one&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidFairbanks</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544854</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidFairbanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 20:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The wait is mostly a function of the TSA...  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wait is mostly a function of the TSA&#8230;  </p>
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		<title>By: DavidFairbanks</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544852</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidFairbanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 20:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would rather see that security functions were left up to the individual airlines. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would rather see that security functions were left up to the individual airlines. </p>
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		<title>By: Navin_Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Navin_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 19:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your comments about unions pushing for those policies is off. Workers don&#039;t like having to be invasive no matter what the weirdos in these comments typically think.

This part was good though, and it bears itself out over and over again with the way entitled people complain:

&lt;i&gt;Half of the TSA hate seems to be about some pretty ugly class/caste conflicts between well-off frequent flyers and lower-income TSA employees (&quot;that uppity TSA guy doesn&#039;t know his place.&quot;)  In a job with that kind of social dynamic, knowing that the union&#039;s got your back can make a big morale difference.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your comments about unions pushing for those policies is off. Workers don&#8217;t like having to be invasive no matter what the weirdos in these comments typically think.</p>
<p>This part was good though, and it bears itself out over and over again with the way entitled people complain:</p>
<p><i>Half of the TSA hate seems to be about some pretty ugly class/caste conflicts between well-off frequent flyers and lower-income TSA employees (&#8220;that uppity TSA guy doesn&#8217;t know his place.&#8221;)  In a job with that kind of social dynamic, knowing that the union&#8217;s got your back can make a big morale difference.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Tynam</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544650</link>
		<dc:creator>Tynam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 11:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, I did steal some Cadbury&#039;s cream eggs from my mother once.

In my defence I was young, and had much poorer standards for chocolate than I do now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, I did steal some Cadbury&#8217;s cream eggs from my mother once.</p>
<p>In my defence I was young, and had much poorer standards for chocolate than I do now.</p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544571</link>
		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 04:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that&#039;s one kind of &quot;-job&quot; he won&#039;t be getting anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s one kind of &#8220;-job&#8221; he won&#8217;t be getting anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: C W</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544550</link>
		<dc:creator>C W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure they do, but not quite how you&#039;re implying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure they do, but not quite how you&#8217;re implying.</p>
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		<title>By: chgoliz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544545</link>
		<dc:creator>chgoliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know how I know you&#039;re a Republican?  The usual way: it&#039;s always the plural-vs.-possessive that trips you guys up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know how I know you&#8217;re a Republican?  The usual way: it&#8217;s always the plural-vs.-possessive that trips you guys up.</p>
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		<title>By: chgoliz</title>
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		<dc:creator>chgoliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not even caught....it&#039;s the number of officers FIRED.  Which means they have a handy-dandy solution available for keeping the statistic down: don&#039;t fire anyone just because they were caught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not even caught&#8230;.it&#8217;s the number of officers FIRED.  Which means they have a handy-dandy solution available for keeping the statistic down: don&#8217;t fire anyone just because they were caught.</p>
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		<title>By: ocker3</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544539</link>
		<dc:creator>ocker3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Goverment employees can&#039;t be fired?? I wish I could get a contract like that!

Whether someone is Gov or Private sector, the true standard should be accountability. Are staff being held to the rules and standards set down by their employers, and are those rules and standards appropriate/fair?

I agree, having things that are supposed to be allowed onto a plane randomly confiscated is a problem, because it creates a lot of uncertainty and fear. But is this a solely a feature of Government processes? I would argue it is a failure of the chain of command, which can happen in any organisation without proper oversight and accountabilty. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Goverment employees can&#8217;t be fired?? I wish I could get a contract like that!</p>
<p>Whether someone is Gov or Private sector, the true standard should be accountability. Are staff being held to the rules and standards set down by their employers, and are those rules and standards appropriate/fair?</p>
<p>I agree, having things that are supposed to be allowed onto a plane randomly confiscated is a problem, because it creates a lot of uncertainty and fear. But is this a solely a feature of Government processes? I would argue it is a failure of the chain of command, which can happen in any organisation without proper oversight and accountabilty. </p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544517</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would ABC push the button that automatically lawyers the douche up when they can just trick him into saying and doing what they want without pressing charges? 

A lawyer might have known how to respond: 

&quot;Entrapment&quot; 

&quot;My client thought it was a free iPad, not a trap iPad&quot; 

&quot;My client is too stupid to answer your questions&quot; 

&quot;I would prefer to help you deflect this issue onto the TSA employment administration please and thank you.&quot;

&quot;My client drank a potion and thought it was his iPhone&quot;

&quot;My client&#039;s wife did it, because it sounds legit coming from me and not my client&quot;

&quot;My client is totally counter-suing everybody, even you, yes, you, and you, and you, and you.. Imma get me a ferrari&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would ABC push the button that automatically lawyers the douche up when they can just trick him into saying and doing what they want without pressing charges? </p>
<p>A lawyer might have known how to respond: </p>
<p>&#8220;Entrapment&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;My client thought it was a free iPad, not a trap iPad&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;My client is too stupid to answer your questions&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;I would prefer to help you deflect this issue onto the TSA employment administration please and thank you.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;My client drank a potion and thought it was his iPhone&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;My client&#8217;s wife did it, because it sounds legit coming from me and not my client&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;My client is totally counter-suing everybody, even you, yes, you, and you, and you, and you.. Imma get me a ferrari&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544513</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might have been an &quot;or else&quot; scenario for the wife. Whether or not it is, that guy is a super-douche of infinite baggery to blame his wife to the media like that.

Hopefully it becomes his ultimate job-stopper, Google-style, even though that won&#039;t bode well for her either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might have been an &#8220;or else&#8221; scenario for the wife. Whether or not it is, that guy is a super-douche of infinite baggery to blame his wife to the media like that.</p>
<p>Hopefully it becomes his ultimate job-stopper, Google-style, even though that won&#8217;t bode well for her either.</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544507</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Republicans do suck and it bears mentioning every time their answer to bad employees is to make things worse by encouraging employment classification abuse. 

One thing that TSA employees will not be if privatized, is employees. 

They&#039;ll be disenfranchised, desperate working poor fake &quot;contractors&quot; with no employment insurance, medical insurance worth having or hope of not starving in retirement. 

This response to the TSA troubles is water on a grease fire, bad for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans do suck and it bears mentioning every time their answer to bad employees is to make things worse by encouraging employment classification abuse. </p>
<p>One thing that TSA employees will not be if privatized, is employees. </p>
<p>They&#8217;ll be disenfranchised, desperate working poor fake &#8220;contractors&#8221; with no employment insurance, medical insurance worth having or hope of not starving in retirement. </p>
<p>This response to the TSA troubles is water on a grease fire, bad for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is also a make-work program, Republican style. 

BTW  ken, the TSA is evil, the DHS is evil, and some of government is evil. That has little to do with the people that work there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is also a make-work program, Republican style. </p>
<p>BTW  ken, the TSA is evil, the DHS is evil, and some of government is evil. That has little to do with the people that work there.</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544499</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think half is a bit of a stretch for your first supposition. 

While TSA clearly hires whosoever is willing to be part of a machine most people see as worthless, inept and harmful, staffed by pariahs and crooks and generally reviled, the acrimony is based most often on policies and procedures, violations of civil liberties and unwarranted delays. 

Rude, crude and socially unacceptable staff are just the icing on the cake and the goto source for anecdotal accounts that support the core basis of most complaints.

What complaints there are that may be solely based on an individual feeling that they should not be impeded but by someone of perceived equal social standing are not something I&#039;ve encountered. 

But if they are there, there is a chicken/egg, if the person were competent, would the complainer complain? The same person might eat at Mcdonalds without complaining if the service is fast, efficient and polite, despite feeling that they are a much better human being than the server for reasons that make them less so.

As for unionization, since I don&#039;t intend to enter US airspace  while I can use a car or train, I&#039;m all for it. It matters little to me that the TSA employees are scum and doing something that shouldn&#039;t be done for their living when I consider the matter in relation to employment practices. If the TSA rabble is being wronged in that manner they are correct to unionize. From where I sit it is merely a rearguard action by Americas dwindling unions, and a poor choice too unless death by association is the goal, yet beggars can&#039;t be choosers. 

When the house of cards that is an unsupported consumer market collapses, the unions will rise again as we pick ourselves up and dust ourselves off.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think half is a bit of a stretch for your first supposition. </p>
<p>While TSA clearly hires whosoever is willing to be part of a machine most people see as worthless, inept and harmful, staffed by pariahs and crooks and generally reviled, the acrimony is based most often on policies and procedures, violations of civil liberties and unwarranted delays. </p>
<p>Rude, crude and socially unacceptable staff are just the icing on the cake and the goto source for anecdotal accounts that support the core basis of most complaints.</p>
<p>What complaints there are that may be solely based on an individual feeling that they should not be impeded but by someone of perceived equal social standing are not something I&#8217;ve encountered. </p>
<p>But if they are there, there is a chicken/egg, if the person were competent, would the complainer complain? The same person might eat at Mcdonalds without complaining if the service is fast, efficient and polite, despite feeling that they are a much better human being than the server for reasons that make them less so.</p>
<p>As for unionization, since I don&#8217;t intend to enter US airspace  while I can use a car or train, I&#8217;m all for it. It matters little to me that the TSA employees are scum and doing something that shouldn&#8217;t be done for their living when I consider the matter in relation to employment practices. If the TSA rabble is being wronged in that manner they are correct to unionize. From where I sit it is merely a rearguard action by Americas dwindling unions, and a poor choice too unless death by association is the goal, yet beggars can&#8217;t be choosers. </p>
<p>When the house of cards that is an unsupported consumer market collapses, the unions will rise again as we pick ourselves up and dust ourselves off.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Mander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerald Mander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Besides being redundant.</description>
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		<title>By: Christine Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, so they&#039;ll openly admit to one-half of one percent of officers as felons. I have a terrific idea! All those people they have chasing down rolls to block voter registration could be put to better use keeping an eye on TSA workers! They could feel good about their civil duty, it agrees with the current concerns of the Republican party, and here&#039;s a comparison of the estimated numbers:

Number of felonious TSA officers = 0.5%
Number of fraudulent votes WA 2004 Gubernatorial election = 0.0009%
Number of fraudulent votes OH 2004 Gubernatorial election = 0.00004%

(Thanks to The Brennan Center!)  http://www.brennancenter.org/content/resource/policy_brief_on_the_truth_about_voter_fraud/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, so they&#8217;ll openly admit to one-half of one percent of officers as felons. I have a terrific idea! All those people they have chasing down rolls to block voter registration could be put to better use keeping an eye on TSA workers! They could feel good about their civil duty, it agrees with the current concerns of the Republican party, and here&#8217;s a comparison of the estimated numbers:</p>
<p>Number of felonious TSA officers = 0.5%<br />
Number of fraudulent votes WA 2004 Gubernatorial election = 0.0009%<br />
Number of fraudulent votes OH 2004 Gubernatorial election = 0.00004%</p>
<p>(Thanks to The Brennan Center!)  http://www.brennancenter.org/content/resource/policy_brief_on_the_truth_about_voter_fraud/</p>
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		<title>By: mccrum</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544477</link>
		<dc:creator>mccrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it, like, totally was.  Because, um... straw man!

That said, given the ease and ability to track and find iPhones and iPads, TSA workers taking them should be fired for stupidity.  If you can&#039;t see the trap people are laying out in front of you, you deserve to fall in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it, like, totally was.  Because, um&#8230; straw man!</p>
<p>That said, given the ease and ability to track and find iPhones and iPads, TSA workers taking them should be fired for stupidity.  If you can&#8217;t see the trap people are laying out in front of you, you deserve to fall in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Work_Watch_Buy_Repeat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544475</link>
		<dc:creator>Work_Watch_Buy_Repeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Half of the TSA hate seems to be about some pretty ugly class/caste conflicts between well-off frequent flyers and lower-income TSA employees (&quot;that uppity TSA guy doesn&#039;t know his place.&quot;)  In a job with that kind of social dynamic, knowing that the union&#039;s got your back can make a big morale difference.

Of course, the other half of the TSA hate is about their corrosive effect on US civil liberties, their imposition of increasingly invasive warrantless searches as a condition of travel, and their &quot;normalization&quot; of police-state features like de facto internal passports and no-fly lists.  A union helping to push for *more* of this -- in the same way that the prison guard union pushes for more prisons -- is not a good thing.

All the more reason to fix the TSA&#039;s worst-in-the-First-World &quot;security&quot; policies now, before things like unionization make the policies even harder to roll back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Half of the TSA hate seems to be about some pretty ugly class/caste conflicts between well-off frequent flyers and lower-income TSA employees (&#8220;that uppity TSA guy doesn&#8217;t know his place.&#8221;)  In a job with that kind of social dynamic, knowing that the union&#8217;s got your back can make a big morale difference.</p>
<p>Of course, the other half of the TSA hate is about their corrosive effect on US civil liberties, their imposition of increasingly invasive warrantless searches as a condition of travel, and their &#8220;normalization&#8221; of police-state features like de facto internal passports and no-fly lists.  A union helping to push for *more* of this &#8212; in the same way that the prison guard union pushes for more prisons &#8212; is not a good thing.</p>
<p>All the more reason to fix the TSA&#8217;s worst-in-the-First-World &#8220;security&#8221; policies now, before things like unionization make the policies even harder to roll back.</p>
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		<title>By: Boundegar</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544473</link>
		<dc:creator>Boundegar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was this comment in response to a story about a government employee being fired?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was this comment in response to a story about a government employee being fired?</p>
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		<title>By: Work_Watch_Buy_Repeat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544471</link>
		<dc:creator>Work_Watch_Buy_Repeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The value of a &quot;background check&quot; is greatly over-rated.  If it&#039;s a security-critical job, you *never* assume that a single unobserved individual will act honestly, no matter how ostensibly squeaky clean their record is.  

This is just another example of how TSA -- while it may not see itself as intentionally &quot;evil&quot; -- is not at all focused on providing statistically relevant security, but is instead quite intentionally focused on providing a theatrical security-like experience to serve as an alibi for US politicians and bureaucrats when the next bad thing inevitably happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The value of a &#8220;background check&#8221; is greatly over-rated.  If it&#8217;s a security-critical job, you *never* assume that a single unobserved individual will act honestly, no matter how ostensibly squeaky clean their record is.  </p>
<p>This is just another example of how TSA &#8212; while it may not see itself as intentionally &#8220;evil&#8221; &#8212; is not at all focused on providing statistically relevant security, but is instead quite intentionally focused on providing a theatrical security-like experience to serve as an alibi for US politicians and bureaucrats when the next bad thing inevitably happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544467</link>
		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to snarf down one of the unsellable broken cookies now and then when I worked at a bakery. I guess I never paused to consider that doing so was the moral equivalent of stealing expensive electronic equipment from people who I was tasked with protecting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to snarf down one of the unsellable broken cookies now and then when I worked at a bakery. I guess I never paused to consider that doing so was the moral equivalent of stealing expensive electronic equipment from people who I was tasked with protecting.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544463</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...everyone making post about this theft has stolen something in their life and many even from their employer.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Please don&#039;t project your own moral inadequacy onto the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;everyone making post about this theft has stolen something in their life and many even from their employer.</p></blockquote>
<p>Please don&#8217;t project your own moral inadequacy onto the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: The Rizz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544462</link>
		<dc:creator>The Rizz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it&#039;s the number FIRED. There could well have been more caught that were given wrist-slaps and kept on the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#8217;s the number FIRED. There could well have been more caught that were given wrist-slaps and kept on the job.</p>
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		<title>By: Navin_Johnson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544459</link>
		<dc:creator>Navin_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Never has any TSA agent ever apologized for the delay, at least not to me or anyone in my hearing.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s like they don&#039;t even want you to know that you&#039;re wanted, truly special and loved...

Seriously:  &quot;Apologize to me because the airport is busy!&quot; 

Holy entitlement..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Never has any TSA agent ever apologized for the delay, at least not to me or anyone in my hearing.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s like they don&#8217;t even want you to know that you&#8217;re wanted, truly special and loved&#8230;</p>
<p>Seriously:  &#8220;Apologize to me because the airport is busy!&#8221; </p>
<p>Holy entitlement..</p>
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		<title>By: Navin_Johnson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544452</link>
		<dc:creator>Navin_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those policies will all be the same, the only difference is that the workers will be paid less, and likely even less accountable. 

See the NFL debacle.  It is a completely reasonable comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those policies will all be the same, the only difference is that the workers will be paid less, and likely even less accountable. </p>
<p>See the NFL debacle.  It is a completely reasonable comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Ira</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/09/28/ipad-left-at-airport-checkpoin.html#comment-1544451</link>
		<dc:creator>Ira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, iPad&#039;s were left at 10 airports and only one was stolen. How many agencies or companies can say they don&#039;t have thieves working for them especially if it&#039;s items left out on purpose to see who would take them. We are quick to be TSA haters but everyone making post about this theft has stolen something in their life and many even from their employer. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, iPad&#8217;s were left at 10 airports and only one was stolen. How many agencies or companies can say they don&#8217;t have thieves working for them especially if it&#8217;s items left out on purpose to see who would take them. We are quick to be TSA haters but everyone making post about this theft has stolen something in their life and many even from their employer. </p>
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