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	<title>Comments on: Swedish police raid ISP for Pirate Bay and&#160;Wikileaks</title>
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		<title>By: Sparg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/01/swedish-police-raid-isp-for-pi.html#comment-1547579</link>
		<dc:creator>Sparg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the update.  Wondering why I couldn&#039;t connect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update.  Wondering why I couldn&#8217;t connect.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Hornby</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/01/swedish-police-raid-isp-for-pi.html#comment-1546713</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Hornby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 18:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, that is a bit of a mind bender!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, that is a bit of a mind bender!</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Greenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Greenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 17:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, corporations are now people, so maybe government is representing them more every year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, corporations are now people, so maybe government is representing them more every year.</p>
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		<title>By: dragonfrog</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/01/swedish-police-raid-isp-for-pi.html#comment-1546411</link>
		<dc:creator>dragonfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Sorry, Swedes&quot; ← The thing with words is that they actually mean stuff.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, and in this case, &quot;Sorry Swedes&quot; means an apology to the people of Sweden, for certain preceding comments.  Which were about &quot;Sweden,&quot; not &quot;Swedes.&quot;  Which could be interpreted to mean the landmass, the people, the government, the constitutional entity, or the album by the Mountain Goats (had to check the WP disambiguation page for that one).  I wonder which makes more sense in this context, given that it&#039;s a discussion about actions taken by the Swedish &lt;i&gt;justice system&lt;/i&gt;, which is a branch of &lt;i&gt;government&lt;/i&gt;.

Also - people are getting more excited about this than the Dotcom fiasco in NZ?  Which people have you noticed getting more excited?  Are they Swedish?  This is the first I&#039;ve heard of the story, and 12 hours after the fact, the BB thread has all of 16 posts on it, and very little hand wringing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Sorry, Swedes&#8221; ← The thing with words is that they actually mean stuff.</i></p>
<p>Yes, and in this case, &#8220;Sorry Swedes&#8221; means an apology to the people of Sweden, for certain preceding comments.  Which were about &#8220;Sweden,&#8221; not &#8220;Swedes.&#8221;  Which could be interpreted to mean the landmass, the people, the government, the constitutional entity, or the album by the Mountain Goats (had to check the WP disambiguation page for that one).  I wonder which makes more sense in this context, given that it&#8217;s a discussion about actions taken by the Swedish <i>justice system</i>, which is a branch of <i>government</i>.</p>
<p>Also &#8211; people are getting more excited about this than the Dotcom fiasco in NZ?  Which people have you noticed getting more excited?  Are they Swedish?  This is the first I&#8217;ve heard of the story, and 12 hours after the fact, the BB thread has all of 16 posts on it, and very little hand wringing.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Hornby</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/01/swedish-police-raid-isp-for-pi.html#comment-1546395</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Hornby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eugh.

On a positive note I&#039;ve seen a lot of free Julian Assange posters about my town recently - which is a relatively small town, and certainly not particularly politically active, in a visual way at least.

People are irked.  They&#039;ll only stay irked for so long.

From my perspective it feels like the government (and I mean that collectively, across many western nations) represents its people a little less every year, it won&#039;t be long until they&#039;re just another enemy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eugh.</p>
<p>On a positive note I&#8217;ve seen a lot of free Julian Assange posters about my town recently &#8211; which is a relatively small town, and certainly not particularly politically active, in a visual way at least.</p>
<p>People are irked.  They&#8217;ll only stay irked for so long.</p>
<p>From my perspective it feels like the government (and I mean that collectively, across many western nations) represents its people a little less every year, it won&#8217;t be long until they&#8217;re just another enemy.</p>
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		<title>By: Manuel Smirnoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manuel Smirnoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read Boundegar, below, for the meaning of &quot;Sorry, Swedes.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read Boundegar, below, for the meaning of &#8220;Sorry, Swedes.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Boundegar</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/01/swedish-police-raid-isp-for-pi.html#comment-1546373</link>
		<dc:creator>Boundegar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I recall, we had a Swedish commenter on a related story, who said his government was fairly notorious for being in the pocket of corporate interests.  It was sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I recall, we had a Swedish commenter on a related story, who said his government was fairly notorious for being in the pocket of corporate interests.  It was sad.</p>
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		<title>By: noah django</title>
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		<dc:creator>noah django</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 09:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fuck this hetero earth </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fuck this hetero earth </p>
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		<title>By: bzishi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/01/swedish-police-raid-isp-for-pi.html#comment-1546325</link>
		<dc:creator>bzishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 07:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on Sweden&#039;s record of protecting privacy rights, they deserve the benefit of the doubt. But remember, Sweden is a very small country (1/30th the population of the US). If this does turn out to be an attack on free speech, the significance will be greater due to their small population and the erosion of their high standard of privacy rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on Sweden&#8217;s record of protecting privacy rights, they deserve the benefit of the doubt. But remember, Sweden is a very small country (1/30th the population of the US). If this does turn out to be an attack on free speech, the significance will be greater due to their small population and the erosion of their high standard of privacy rights.</p>
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		<title>By: teapot</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/01/swedish-police-raid-isp-for-pi.html#comment-1546307</link>
		<dc:creator>teapot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Sorry, Swedes&quot;&lt;/i&gt; ← The thing with words is that they actually mean stuff.

My point, which you seem to have missed entirely, was that as far as countries go Sweden is pretty staunch on protecting personal liberty and it seems like this everyday occurrence (company accused of supporting piracy gets raided and servers confiscated) is being completely overblown because of the particular parties involved (tpb, Sweden) and not because of objective or balanced outrage.

Yes - this is not a very cool move, and I&#039;m not arguing that. What I&#039;m saying is I don&#039;t remember masses of people acting with such incredulity when the US government pressed the Kiwis to break NZ law in order to seize servers and arrest Kim Dotcom. That was par for the course and maybe people are responding more in this case because they expect better of Sweden, but the fact remains that we&#039;d probably all live more freely there than in our respective countries and so it looks pretty silly when we are telling them to be better.

If my sarcastic, excited exclamation marks weren&#039;t clue enough; I don&#039;t do elegant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Sorry, Swedes&#8221;</i> ← The thing with words is that they actually mean stuff.</p>
<p>My point, which you seem to have missed entirely, was that as far as countries go Sweden is pretty staunch on protecting personal liberty and it seems like this everyday occurrence (company accused of supporting piracy gets raided and servers confiscated) is being completely overblown because of the particular parties involved (tpb, Sweden) and not because of objective or balanced outrage.</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; this is not a very cool move, and I&#8217;m not arguing that. What I&#8217;m saying is I don&#8217;t remember masses of people acting with such incredulity when the US government pressed the Kiwis to break NZ law in order to seize servers and arrest Kim Dotcom. That was par for the course and maybe people are responding more in this case because they expect better of Sweden, but the fact remains that we&#8217;d probably all live more freely there than in our respective countries and so it looks pretty silly when we are telling them to be better.</p>
<p>If my sarcastic, excited exclamation marks weren&#8217;t clue enough; I don&#8217;t do elegant.</p>
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		<title>By: LogrusZed</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/01/swedish-police-raid-isp-for-pi.html#comment-1546299</link>
		<dc:creator>LogrusZed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 05:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proxy hosts, not me behind the meme proxies. Mirrors might be more apt terminology. A bunch of sites began to d/l and mirror the TPB database after the last DDOS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proxy hosts, not me behind the meme proxies. Mirrors might be more apt terminology. A bunch of sites began to d/l and mirror the TPB database after the last DDOS.</p>
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		<title>By: JimEJim</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimEJim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 05:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://torrentfreak.com/prq-police-raid-takes-down-dozens-of-file-sharing-sites-121001/

According to torrentfreak, Pirate Bay is down for unrelated reasons and isn&#039;t hosted there anymore. </description>
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<p>According to torrentfreak, Pirate Bay is down for unrelated reasons and isn&#8217;t hosted there anymore. </p>
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		<title>By: davidasposted</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidasposted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 05:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is fair to assume from context that Manuel is referring to the Swedish government. More, he did not describe the government as fascist. Make your point in a more elegant way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is fair to assume from context that Manuel is referring to the Swedish government. More, he did not describe the government as fascist. Make your point in a more elegant way.</p>
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		<title>By: AriesAries Aries</title>
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		<dc:creator>AriesAries Aries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 03:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man... It is a sad day indeed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man&#8230; It is a sad day indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael David Stillings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael David Stillings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 03:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i havent felt like this since 911.....a part of me is lost. truly this is a sad day</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i havent felt like this since 911&#8230;..a part of me is lost. truly this is a sad day</p>
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		<title>By: Petzl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petzl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 03:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Pirate Bay goes down, then truly the terrorists have won.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Pirate Bay goes down, then truly the terrorists have won.</p>
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		<title>By: Mistre Brightside</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mistre Brightside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 03:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t matter if you are behind over 9000 proxies. It won&#039;t connect if the server itself (that hosts the website and the files you are trying to connect to) is down!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter if you are behind over 9000 proxies. It won&#8217;t connect if the server itself (that hosts the website and the files you are trying to connect to) is down!</p>
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		<title>By: teapot</title>
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		<dc:creator>teapot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 03:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just ignore the fact that tpb was created by Swedes in Sweden and that the Pirate Party movement started there.. Other than that: Screw you, fascist Swedes!!!!!!!!!1!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just ignore the fact that tpb was created by Swedes in Sweden and that the Pirate Party movement started there.. Other than that: Screw you, fascist Swedes!!!!!!!!!1!</p>
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		<title>By: LogrusZed</title>
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		<dc:creator>LogrusZed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 02:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what kind of technical problems would be causing all the proxies I have listed to be down as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what kind of technical problems would be causing all the proxies I have listed to be down as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Manuel Smirnoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manuel Smirnoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 02:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to think Sweden was cool. Then the Assange thing, and now this. Now they just act like morons. 

Sorry, Swedes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to think Sweden was cool. Then the Assange thing, and now this. Now they just act like morons. </p>
<p>Sorry, Swedes.</p>
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