Topless dungeon master sought

Antinous / Moderator

Wow. The applicant queue must be out the door and around the block.

vonbobo

C cup or greater… they are anticipating enough applicants that they can be choosy.
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- Martijn
  
  I’ve already heard of two female gamers on G+ that they’d be willing to do it (and at least one of them lives in the neighbourhood), but one of them has cup size B, and the other has no experience as a DM.
  
  But with this kind of broad exposure, it would surprise me if they wouldn’t find a suitable DM that meets their criteria.
  - CognitiveDissident
    
    Heh Heh “Broad Exposure”
nettdata

Seeing as they didn’t put a weight restriction with that “C-cup” requirement, it very well might be.
- copperwatt
  
  Wait, because fat girls are so much more eager to take their clothes off and get leered at by misogynistic creeps?
  - Syndaryl
    
    Waaaay to take that in a bizarre direction.
    
    If you aren’t requiring a 15 inch waist to go with C+ cups then your pool of potential applicants is still pretty large (in that women with large breasts but otherwise low body fat are much rarer than women with large breasts and no other restrictions).
    
    I don’t see breast size or body type particularly factoring into the “willingness to be leered at” factor, but if you have a population that’s say, 50x the size, you’ve got better odds to find someone who’s a) a GM b) an exhibitionist.
    
    I’ll tell you what, just because I am a fat girl doesn’t mean I need to feel body-shamed either. I have some pretty spectacular breasts because I’m fat, but personally I think they’re better displayed with some support than topless.
    - Jeremy Calton
      
      Am I the only one that’s assuming they aren’t expecting a “regular” DM to answer the ad, rather an escort/stripper who played D&D?
    - Syndaryl
      
      D&D attracts pendandic dorks and rules lawyers. It doesn’t say “escort/stripper only” therefore that’s not one of the prerequisites for the Topless GM Prestige Class ;)
    - Martijn
      
      The way it’s phrased suggests they’re really looking for DMing skill, not stripping skill. I don’t think there are many professional stripper-DMs, so they’re going to get an amateur no matter what.
    - copperwatt
      
      I think you may have misunderstood my comment. I was not saying that “fat” girls are more likely to be exhibitionists. I was not body-shaming anyone. I was criticizing nettdata’s comment for apparently implying those things. I agree that he comment could be interpreted in other ways, and I apologize to nettdata if that is not what s/he meant.
  - joeskunk
    
    actually I’m pretty sure he was saying they would fill more volume, therefore their queues would be longer for the same [s]amount[/s] numerical quantity
- Kludgegrrl
  
  The funny thing about “cup” measurements, about which I suspect non-bra wearers are unaware, is that they are completely relative to the “chest” measurement (which is really more a ribcage under the boobs measurement). For example, a person with a small ribcage, say 30, might require a D cup — but in a 34 would only rate a B.
  
  Although I will go out on a limb and suggest that the gamers in this ad probably lack any real hands-on experience in this area, and mean “c-cup” as in “has boobs capable of visible movement”
  - Antinous / Moderator
    
    According to every makeover show that I’ve ever seen, American women inevitably buy their bras with the chest size too large and the cup size too small, leading to poor support.

fuzzyfuzzyfungus

Is my skepticism concerning the likelihood that somebody describable as a ’gentleman’ would post such an ad an atypical reaction?

Noam DePlume

There is no champagne in the champagne room, and there are no gentlemen in the gentlemen’s club.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1033044247 Richard Langis

It’s not like they could see anything anyway, she’d be behind DM screens.

Frank Diekman

These guys are mashing up the definitions of the word “player”.

shutz

I think it’s a way cooler idea than just hiring one or more strippers. If they find someone “qualified” to fill the “position”, I bet they’re going to have lots of fun. They should film the “auditions” and share them on youtube.

Except… trying to imagine the whole thing, I’m getting flashbacks of a particular IT Crowd episode, and for some reason, I’m not turned on anymore.

http://twitter.com/incarnedine_v Dan Hibiki

Eiffel Tower!

Ashley Yakeley

None of that 4th ed nonsense please.

Kelly M

“Only serious applicants need apply.” Good luck with that… :)

http://twitter.com/incarnedine_v Dan Hibiki

The internet hears and obeys: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/i-hit-it-with-my-axe

Jeff Scott

I wonder if any of them wear fedoras or triblys.

knoxblox

Of course, that would make such a difference!
- Jeff Scott
  
  I admit that today brought me something interesting to put in my cognitive box, the “love-entitled”.

That_Anonymous_Coward

How does one run a D&D session in 30 minutes?

invictus

Limit it to character creation.
Syndaryl

There is a 10′x10′ room. There is an orc in it. He is guarding a pie. GO!
invictus

On further consideration, maybe they’re just being realistic about their staying power.

Mister44

It doesn’t say if she needs to supply her own Doritos and Mt Dew.

That_Anonymous_Coward

Cheetos… its cheetos…

vonbobo

“BOOBIES!!! No no… I mean, we are gentlemen, do this all the time. Ahem.”

Yeah… level 23 awkwardness.

vonbobo

“you know what would make this game more fun?”
“way ahead of you dude”

Chad Smith

This would be much cooler if they were playing 1e… I mean, really, 3rd edition??? What self-respecting woman would DM a 3e game?

Ashen Victor

The ones who play Blue Rose?

I know it´s True20, but it´s the same as 3e.
http://profile.yahoo.com/H22TPIS3MEPIFGKDK3ZMAW7S54 sithbunny

I’ve been GMing 3.5, 3rd E, AND Pathfinder for years now. Also dabble in a bit of DC Universe, Shadowrun, and I throw down for a good game of Munchkin. No self-respecting woman runs 4th E. Get it straight.
- http://daruiburns.tumblr.com/ Dlo Burns
  
  What about warhammer?

http://twitter.com/smknghrtdesigns SmokingHeartDesigns

Money talks, baby. Somebody will do it.

Sean Breakey

This is what Craigslist was created for.

Doctor 13enster

I put on my robe and wizard hat…

That_Anonymous_Coward

aite…
I cast level 7 eroticism… aite

Can it be blood ninja has surfaced again?!

robuluz

Topless dungeon master sought

Yeah, I’ll bet.

ocatagon

Reddit would talk some porn star into taking the job, with pics and AMA to follow.

Toby

A year ago, someone asked this exact question on Reddit:
[Request] Female Stripping Dungeon Master for bachelor party of greatness +4

Either these is the same people (unsuccessful a year and a half later!) or there is a serious underserved market for this stuff in MD.
- ocatagon
  
  No pics or AMA. Reddit fail.
- http://www.gyrofrog.com/ Gyrofrog
  
  I just noticed that it’s in my neck of the woods.
  
  Who knows, maybe one of their friends did this last year and it went over so well that now whoever caught the garter is having it.
Tynam

Now I think about it… there are quite a few geek porn stars out there.

Doubt this party could afford them, though.
- Restless
  
  http://dndwithpornstars.blogspot.com

http://twitter.com/EC_Duncan Emily Duncan

Since this was on CL is it topless DM internship? This isn’t paid, but it’s a great opportunity for exposure!

Aeron

The ad implies one of them is actually getting married. :P

http://twitter.com/sfrazer Scott Frazer

“Har. D&D players are such losers. None of them ever get married! None of them have seen a girl’s ladyparts! Poor nerds!”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36_-DauQi0s

blagos

Actually, all of the people I played D&D with in my younger days are married (except for one, who is an IT manager, has a hundred people working for him and makes megabucks — hardly a loser). Of the ones who are married, several own their own companies and all of them own homes, have kids and lead either middle class or upper class lives. If anything, playing D&D is an indication of being successful, not of being a loser..
- http://www.ikaink.net Itsumishi
  
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  - dragonfrog
    
    Sarcasm Acknowledgement 3.2 has meaningful logging? Maybe I will upgrade after all.

oasisob1

They’d better behave like gentlemen towards the DM, else it’s blue bolts for everybody!

http://daruiburns.tumblr.com/ Dlo Burns

rocks fall everyone dies, peace out

http://about.me/rosemwelch Rose M. Welch

This comment thread says alot about… Well, alot of things. I’m a pretty hot gamer, and while I’ve never DM’d, I’d give it a shot. And I look good topless, y’all. The other women that I’ve played with look just about equally good (a little variances here and there) and some of them actually have DM experience.

The ideas posited here (that female gamers are fat and unattractive, or that male gamers can’t look at boobs without being boobs) are pretty sexist, yo.

cdh1971

Word.

I like the cut of your jib, pardner.

Anyway, I’m not much of a gamer now, but I’ve met plenty of hot gamers, male and female, and some of these hot gamers were on the chunky side. Wicked in bed too ;)
http://twitter.com/digitalArtform Joseph Francis

You’re hired. Are you going to charge $20/hour like an art class nude model? Or $100/hour like a nude photo model?
- http://about.me/rosemwelch Rose M. Welch
  
  Are they paying for my room/board/travel? If so, I might do it just for a vacation; no hourly fee required. I hear Maryland’s nice in the fall.
- Syndaryl
  
  I’d be inclined to go with $100/hr simply because this is more than sitting looking attractive – I’d also have to have mad GM skillzor yo.
  
  I’m someone else who (if in the area) might actually take the job – but as mentioned up thread I think my breasts look better with some support, so I’d see if we could arrange some compromise garment to everyone’s satisfaction.
  - http://www.gyrofrog.com/ Gyrofrog
    
    I would hold out for more. I’d imagine that hiring someone for “the usual” type of in-home live entertainment would be a lot more than $100/hour. I’m not certain as I’ve never had to arrange it (just spectated).
    - Syndaryl
      
      There’s a lot of differences though.
      An actual model does more than sit and look attractive, I should note; she nearly always also signs over the rights to the session to the photographer (most if not all). And she has to hold very uncomfortable poses for extended periods of time in cold rooms, usually in inadequate clothing.
      
      An actual “in home live entertainment” specialist doesn’t sit and look pretty, she’s a performer, often an athletic one. She doesn’t have to hold awkward poses and she doesn’t sign over recording and publication rights, but she does have to work in under-heated rooms in inadequate clothing, and the audience is usually worse behaved than a photographer.
      
      The Topless DM gets to sit comfortably (although skimpily dressed in a cold room), and I suspect while a certain “charming bubbly hostess” attitude would be a good plan, your performance isn’t the same kind of athleticism required for that live entertainer, nor are you signing over recording and publication rights. If they’re expecting someone to pole-dance or otherwise actively “be sexy” while DMing, I agree it should be significantly higher.
      If they’re expecting someone to DM (primary activity) with exposed bewbs and a tolerant attitude towards the attention this attracts as an added feature, I’d actually peg it around the same as a photographic model. I’m thinking more “Hooters Waitress” than stripper here, only the dynamic is different because the DM isn’t serving, the DM is murdering you with a 20 hit dice red dragon.
      
      Of course a photographic model can range much higher than $100/hr (that’s really more of a junior wage) but I don’t think there are any pro Topless DMs out there to have established portfolios yet :)
    - invictus
      
      Not pro topless DMs, but experience in run of the mill DMing would certainly count — and would probably be the difference between a success or a miserable time for all involved. If you’re not confident in your DMing abilities, you’re rather unlikely to be more confident when asked to do this topless.
- Martijn
  
  DMing isn’t like modeling. It’s a distinct skill that requires talent and experience, and doing it requires preparation. Getting paid per hour of the session itself would be pretty meaningless.
vonbobo

“The other women that I’ve played with…”
pictures?

People are just having fun, yo.
- http://about.me/rosemwelch Rose M. Welch
  
  Fun and sexism are not mutually exclusive. On that note, thanks for providing an example of said weird sex vibes.
- http://about.me/rosemwelch Rose M. Welch
  
  “I appreciate what you are saying, some of the comments have been insensitive.”
  
  You obviously do not appreciate what I am saying, because that’s not what I said. Some of these comments exhibit sexism. Full stop.
  
  “At the same time, you are apparently willing to receive a paid vacation to hang out with a bunch of dudes that want a woman around…”
  
  I am willing to receive a paid vacation in recompense for spending a short period of time with said bunch of dudes, actually. I never said I’d hang with them, and I can’t see tagging along their stag party. That seems like it would be weird. Anyway, more on the not reading what I’m writing?
  
  “…not for what you can add to the game play, but because you willing to expose your large boobs to strangers.”
  
  Really? That’s all they want? That’s funny; I thought they advertised for a DM, not a stripper. Just being willing to expose your boobs is just one part of what they’re looking for.
  
  Anyway, this is a good example of the second sexist bit; that all men are pigs and liking boobs is proof thereof.
  
  I like boobs. I would enjoy a topless DM. I would work as a topless DM. That doesn’t make me a pig. That doesn’t make these guys pigs. To say otherwise is sexist.
  
  We are large; we contain multitudes.

http://about.me/rosemwelch Rose M. Welch

On that note, actually, since female gamers already get so many weird sex vibes from their fellow male gamers, why not supply an actress/ stripper with a headset and have someone tell her what to say and do?

CH

And that helps with the weird sex wibes exactly how?
- bcsizemo
  
  I believe she is implying that said actress/stripper would be used to having people being visibly attracted to her (as that is the primary function of being a stripper), while a more nerdy girl might feel awkward and uncomfortable in a situation like this.
  
  It’s like Master Blaster from Mad Max; one is the brains, the other the brawn.
  - http://scavenger-ethic.blogspot.com/ scav
    
    Oh now I did not want that image in my head.
- http://about.me/rosemwelch Rose M. Welch
  
  Presumably, the stripper/actress would:
  
  a. be used to it and,
  b. not be alienated by it.
  
  Whereas asking a gamer to take off her shirt would be
  
  a. further alienating and,
  b. further alienating.
  - CH
    
    Yea but… that is still going to promote the idea that woman players l2play and are there only to be sex objects (or go make a sammich).
    - http://about.me/rosemwelch Rose M. Welch
      
      Yup, which is why I’m not having a topless GM over for a bachelorette party.
    - http://twitter.com/ClockworkCrow Clockwork Crow
      
      Your posts are classy, and you should feel classy.
      
      Srsly.
    - http://about.me/rosemwelch Rose M. Welch
      
      I do feel classy, because there’s nothing more classy than owning my own sexuality. Srsly. :)

aaronmhill

I find “we will treat the DM with utmost respect” at odds with “we would like the DM to be topless [presumably so that they may ogle her]“.

I mean, I get that “utmost respect” means “we won’t try to Charm Other or Dominate Person on the DM”, but still — there is some implicit objectification carried in with asking someone to be topless for the purposes of titillation.

On the other hand, maybe this would actually get the players to pay attention to the DM and stop chattering amongst themselves.

invictus

People do a lot of weird shit for the sake of embarrassing the bachelor. The one bachelor party experience I was involved in (not mine; I was at work and was asked to help pretty much out of the blue) had me ask the groom to demonstrate the proper condom-application technique on a broom handle. Said broom’s other end was made up to look like a woman’s face.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D55WI4DCGD37XCUHNBH7IVC5HQ Hollow

You still wouldn’t get full attention. They would be too busy staring at your tits to notice the dragon bearing down on them.

http://twitter.com/incarnedine_v Dan Hibiki

Somehow I think an argument about grappling rules or similar would trump all other influence.

http://glitch.tl/ Michael Smith

Hang on this is from Washington DC? Reminds me of the Canberra hotel I used once which had a sign at reception saying they would not accept bookings from locals.

James Holmes

Oh goodie, the old “Somebody has a fantasy/fetish/relationship structure that I’m not interested in, therefore nobody should ever be interested in it… Weirdos” thing… Because that always turns out great… And then people wonder how there can be so much hate in the world.

Snig

I think it’s weird because I think of gaming as something I like to do with friends or people who may yet be my friends. It’s just be weird to think someone’s only at the table because they’re paid. Same reason I think the idea of prostitution reeks of sadness.

Brainspore

We are at all above the age of 24. Each of us are gentlemen and will treat the Dungeon Master with the utmost of respect…

I’m surprised they didn’t list their charisma stats.

Ed Mar

”We are all at CHA 10 or below, but we will have many Potions of Charisma available that will grant us +5 for 5 minutes, or until you pass out.”

That said, I do remember quite a few well-mannered, good looking guys and girls that I’ve played with in my time. The most irksome was the fellow that looked like Sean Bean, ridiculously over-the-top in practiced manner and bearing, able to charm and sweet talk the worst of the worst, and knew everything. I’d have punched him in the face, if it weren’t for the fact that ‘knowing everything’ included a black belt in TKD.

Tess

I was trying to imagine how this would fit into my life and realized that Topless Lesbian Tabletop Gaming sounds quite fun. But it wouldn’t just be the GM taking off her shirt, ’cause we lesbians are into equality. ;)

More seriously, I do find the ad creepy, personally – and the “who wants to see a chubby geek girl topless” responses WAY creepier. I can just about imagine a few male friends who would do this sort of thing for a bachelor party, although I can’t imagine them advertising for a complete stranger to take off her clothes and run the game. They’d probably spend the whole time offering her their shirts because she looked cold.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1257927046 Tina Shontz

They get that most of their “C-cup” hooters will be man-boobs, right? Also, they need a grammar-master (cup size irrelevant).

neffezzle99

Um SRsly really only 30 minutes of game time? Why bother playing at all then? why not just order a stripper and do away with the game?

http://www.gyrofrog.com/ Gyrofrog

“With that said, I ensure you that nothing else is expect of you other than an exciting adventure.”

That “exciting adventure” covers a lot of ground.

mkanoap

I attended a bachelor party once where the groom wanted to play cosmic encounter with topless women. He got his wish.

http://twitter.com/jmaynard8888 Joe Maynard

and to think your parents said you’d never get a paying job with that MA in Folklore & Mythology