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	<title>Comments on: Steve Jurvetson, on Rose’s Law for quantum&#160;computers</title>
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		<title>By: Martijn</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/08/steve-jurvetson-on-roses-l.html#comment-1552792</link>
		<dc:creator>Martijn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 06:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mining other universes for their computing power sounds like an extreme form of colonialism. Though I&#039;m sure there&#039;s a nice SF story in there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mining other universes for their computing power sounds like an extreme form of colonialism. Though I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a nice SF story in there.</p>
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		<title>By: AnthonyC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnthonyC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 03:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with (1) and (2), but (3) is matter of debate. Replace &quot;Parallel universes&quot; with something like &quot;non-zero amplitude at multiple vectors representing possible universal wavefunctions which are distinct but not quite so far apart in configuration space that the interaction between them is zero&quot; and it is much more reasonable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with (1) and (2), but (3) is matter of debate. Replace &#8220;Parallel universes&#8221; with something like &#8220;non-zero amplitude at multiple vectors representing possible universal wavefunctions which are distinct but not quite so far apart in configuration space that the interaction between them is zero&#8221; and it is much more reasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Chase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But will it be fast enough to tell us what women really want?</description>
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		<title>By: musesum</title>
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		<dc:creator>musesum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 20:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Innocuous non-sequitur </description>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/08/steve-jurvetson-on-roses-l.html#comment-1552201</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 17:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I alone in thinking that statements like &quot;more powerful than the entire universe within 3 years&quot; are both meaningless and simultaneously misleading? On a whole host of levels &quot;within 3 years&quot; is reminiscent of the worst of Wired&#039;s breathless futurism/mania, and &quot;more powerful than the universe&quot; is meaningless and silly. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I want him to be right! I&#039;m waiting for the promised Rapture/Singularity/Ascent to the great Cloud Eternal just like the next citizen of the future...but I&#039;d like it to be real, or at least tethered to the real in some useful way. Otherwise, it&#039;s just noise.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I alone in thinking that statements like &#8220;more powerful than the entire universe within 3 years&#8221; are both meaningless and simultaneously misleading? On a whole host of levels &#8220;within 3 years&#8221; is reminiscent of the worst of Wired&#8217;s breathless futurism/mania, and &#8220;more powerful than the universe&#8221; is meaningless and silly. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I want him to be right! I&#8217;m waiting for the promised Rapture/Singularity/Ascent to the great Cloud Eternal just like the next citizen of the future&#8230;but I&#8217;d like it to be real, or at least tethered to the real in some useful way. Otherwise, it&#8217;s just noise.</p>
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		<title>By: Dillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 15:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just remember gang, it&#039;s all fun-and-games until we&#039;re condemned to our own pocket universe by The Galactic Council for running the cosmic equivalent of a fork-bomb on the universe(s). 

&quot;Sigh, every civilization that discovers quantum computing inevitably does this at least once when they first figure out how to bang the rocks together...&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just remember gang, it&#8217;s all fun-and-games until we&#8217;re condemned to our own pocket universe by The Galactic Council for running the cosmic equivalent of a fork-bomb on the universe(s). </p>
<p>&#8220;Sigh, every civilization that discovers quantum computing inevitably does this at least once when they first figure out how to bang the rocks together&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mantissa128</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mantissa128</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I feel like a quantum apologist ITT.

1) If you mean that D-Wave does not have a general-purpose quantum computer, you are correct, but the rest of your point is misleading. A general-purpose quantum computer is one that could act as a universal Turing machine, and there are no logical or physical obstacles to that.

2) People have been arguing for years that Moore&#039;s law is rubbish. And yet the exponential increases still continue, despite everyone&#039;s hot air. The future will tell.

3) That depends on your interpretation of the quantum world, Daniel. How does a single photon of light interfere with itself? Even the simplest accounts of quantum phenomena can&#039;t get away from the idea that there is more than one copy of the world that is encountering itself at the smallest scales. Do you know something that scientists around the world do not?

Harrumph.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I feel like a quantum apologist ITT.</p>
<p>1) If you mean that D-Wave does not have a general-purpose quantum computer, you are correct, but the rest of your point is misleading. A general-purpose quantum computer is one that could act as a universal Turing machine, and there are no logical or physical obstacles to that.</p>
<p>2) People have been arguing for years that Moore&#8217;s law is rubbish. And yet the exponential increases still continue, despite everyone&#8217;s hot air. The future will tell.</p>
<p>3) That depends on your interpretation of the quantum world, Daniel. How does a single photon of light interfere with itself? Even the simplest accounts of quantum phenomena can&#8217;t get away from the idea that there is more than one copy of the world that is encountering itself at the smallest scales. Do you know something that scientists around the world do not?</p>
<p>Harrumph.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Hornby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Hornby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 14:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Misinformed refutation.</description>
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		<title>By: Mantissa128</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mantissa128</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 14:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chill out, old son. The &#039;trillions&#039; bit is from &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Deutsch&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David Deutsch&lt;/a&gt;, not some breathless PR department.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chill out, old son. The &#8216;trillions&#8217; bit is from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Deutsch" rel="nofollow">David Deutsch</a>, not some breathless PR department.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Hornby</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/08/steve-jurvetson-on-roses-l.html#comment-1552047</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Hornby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 14:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I gather the existence of parallel universes is &#039;proven&#039; by association - i.e. if they didn&#039;t exist then a whole bunch of maths and physics falls over.  Like with the Higgs Boson.

Religion, on the other hand, is just made up - nothing relies on it to be true, other than faith.I&#039;m a total arm-chair scientist though so trust me at your own risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I gather the existence of parallel universes is &#8216;proven&#8217; by association &#8211; i.e. if they didn&#8217;t exist then a whole bunch of maths and physics falls over.  Like with the Higgs Boson.</p>
<p>Religion, on the other hand, is just made up &#8211; nothing relies on it to be true, other than faith.I&#8217;m a total arm-chair scientist though so trust me at your own risk.</p>
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		<title>By: Mantissa128</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mantissa128</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 14:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elitzur%E2%80%93Vaidman_bomb_tester&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Elitzur-Vaidman quantum bomb tester.&lt;/a&gt; 

It measures something that happens in a counterfactual world. You&#039;ll have a hard time convincing me that this counterfactual world isn&#039;t real, since it has real, measurable consequences. In other words, if that world weren&#039;t real, the quantum result wouldn&#039;t exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elitzur%E2%80%93Vaidman_bomb_tester" rel="nofollow">The Elitzur-Vaidman quantum bomb tester.</a> </p>
<p>It measures something that happens in a counterfactual world. You&#8217;ll have a hard time convincing me that this counterfactual world isn&#8217;t real, since it has real, measurable consequences. In other words, if that world weren&#8217;t real, the quantum result wouldn&#8217;t exist.</p>
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		<title>By: zog</title>
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		<dc:creator>zog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 08:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the potential negative effects of the Turing-Lovecraft Theorem? wait sec, there a knock at the door...
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		<title>By: ldobe</title>
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		<dc:creator>ldobe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep.  Interference.  Duh.  I remember that now, but if you don&#039;t think about things specifically and often enough, you tend to forget.  I need to re-read some textbooks.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.  Interference.  Duh.  I remember that now, but if you don&#8217;t think about things specifically and often enough, you tend to forget.  I need to re-read some textbooks.  </p>
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		<title>By: Colin Rosenthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Rosenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My informal studies of QM don&#039;t seem to indicate that the many worlds interpretation of QM would in any way allow for interactions between forked universes.&quot;

There is, It&#039;s called &quot;interference&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My informal studies of QM don&#8217;t seem to indicate that the many worlds interpretation of QM would in any way allow for interactions between forked universes.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is, It&#8217;s called &#8220;interference&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tynam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tynam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mildly sarcastic rejoinder.</description>
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		<title>By: Tynam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tynam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flyne has a point here.  While &quot;3 years&quot; is wild optimism for getting any useful quantum computing done, it is at least fundamentally an engineering problem with which we can make progress.

AI isn&#039;t an engineering problem, it&#039;s a conceptual one - even if we had infinite resources, we don&#039;t know what we should build with them.  And we didn&#039;t have the &lt;i&gt;slightest&lt;/i&gt; idea how hard the problem was until we tried it.  Possibly we still don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flyne has a point here.  While &#8220;3 years&#8221; is wild optimism for getting any useful quantum computing done, it is at least fundamentally an engineering problem with which we can make progress.</p>
<p>AI isn&#8217;t an engineering problem, it&#8217;s a conceptual one &#8211; even if we had infinite resources, we don&#8217;t know what we should build with them.  And we didn&#8217;t have the <i>slightest</i> idea how hard the problem was until we tried it.  Possibly we still don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Flyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 06:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should be read as &#039;faster than the classical universe&#039;, as is clear in the article: &#039;Meaning, it could solve certain problems that could not be solved by any non-quantum computer, even if the entire mass and energy of the universe was at its disposal and molded into the best possible computer.&#039;

Predictions about quantum computers are of a qualitatively different kind than those about AI: We have a mathematical model of quantum computing, we know (and can measure) what needs to be done, we just have to do it. Moreover, we can measure exactly how quickly we are making progress. This was not the case for AI: what failed us there was that we did not understand the problem and had no way of measuring how close we were getting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be read as &#8216;faster than the classical universe&#8217;, as is clear in the article: &#8216;Meaning, it could solve certain problems that could not be solved by any non-quantum computer, even if the entire mass and energy of the universe was at its disposal and molded into the best possible computer.&#8217;</p>
<p>Predictions about quantum computers are of a qualitatively different kind than those about AI: We have a mathematical model of quantum computing, we know (and can measure) what needs to be done, we just have to do it. Moreover, we can measure exactly how quickly we are making progress. This was not the case for AI: what failed us there was that we did not understand the problem and had no way of measuring how close we were getting.</p>
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		<title>By: Dlo Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dlo Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 06:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aww, I was hoping to play Crysis in THE FIFTH DEMENTION</description>
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		<title>By: redesigned</title>
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		<dc:creator>redesigned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 05:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think this is the graph you meant to use.  it much more clearly shows the progression of Qberts. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think this is the graph you meant to use.  it much more clearly shows the progression of Qberts. </p>
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		<title>By: redesigned</title>
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		<dc:creator>redesigned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 05:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Idobe:disqus you&#039;d probably enjoy the book flatland.  a classic and a fun story about dimensions and perception.

my understanding about multiple universes is different from what people would quantify as the classic dimensions, our universe has 4 dimensions for certain and probably around 11.  The only relation between dimensions and parallel universes is you&#039;d have to travel in a dimension outside the classic 4 to reach a parallel universe.  people often interchange the 2 words in sci-fi when they don&#039;t mean the same thing at all.

...but to be honest the math of multiple universes and most the math used in quantum computing is at my upper limits or beyond what i&#039;m currently able of wrapping my noodle around, so i don&#039;t really have any answers, just some sorta understandings.  others may be able to better answer your questions.  cheers. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Idobe:disqus you&#8217;d probably enjoy the book flatland.  a classic and a fun story about dimensions and perception.</p>
<p>my understanding about multiple universes is different from what people would quantify as the classic dimensions, our universe has 4 dimensions for certain and probably around 11.  The only relation between dimensions and parallel universes is you&#8217;d have to travel in a dimension outside the classic 4 to reach a parallel universe.  people often interchange the 2 words in sci-fi when they don&#8217;t mean the same thing at all.</p>
<p>&#8230;but to be honest the math of multiple universes and most the math used in quantum computing is at my upper limits or beyond what i&#8217;m currently able of wrapping my noodle around, so i don&#8217;t really have any answers, just some sorta understandings.  others may be able to better answer your questions.  cheers. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: ldobe</title>
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		<dc:creator>ldobe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah I see.  I was thinking four dimensional interpretations of reality, while it seems everyone else is thinking in 11 odd dimensions or possibly more.

I&#039;m pretty skeptical of String Theory.  I think Loop Quantum Gravity is a better research direction, since it makes testable predictions.  String theory has had a long time to develop, and still doesn&#039;t have any predictive power, nor is it feasibly testable.  The String Theories we understand, we know are wrong, and there are 10^500 or so others that haven&#039;t been characterized.  The landscape and anthropic principle are no better than creationism in their logical consistency, and don&#039;t belong in science so much as in a class on mythology.

I know, let the hate mail begin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah I see.  I was thinking four dimensional interpretations of reality, while it seems everyone else is thinking in 11 odd dimensions or possibly more.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty skeptical of String Theory.  I think Loop Quantum Gravity is a better research direction, since it makes testable predictions.  String theory has had a long time to develop, and still doesn&#8217;t have any predictive power, nor is it feasibly testable.  The String Theories we understand, we know are wrong, and there are 10^500 or so others that haven&#8217;t been characterized.  The landscape and anthropic principle are no better than creationism in their logical consistency, and don&#8217;t belong in science so much as in a class on mythology.</p>
<p>I know, let the hate mail begin.</p>
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		<title>By: redesigned</title>
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		<dc:creator>redesigned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 04:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a ton of evidence for parallel universes in the math, and in quantum interactions ... there is even macro evidence, we just left it in the other universe by accident.  oops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a ton of evidence for parallel universes in the math, and in quantum interactions &#8230; there is even macro evidence, we just left it in the other universe by accident.  oops.</p>
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		<title>By: redesigned</title>
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		<dc:creator>redesigned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 04:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>parallel universes != multiple worlds.  in m-string theory most the parallel universes are tightly curled in on themselves, bubble universes such as our own are the exception not the rule.  at least that is my megar understanding. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>parallel universes != multiple worlds.  in m-string theory most the parallel universes are tightly curled in on themselves, bubble universes such as our own are the exception not the rule.  at least that is my megar understanding. </p>
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		<title>By: rocketpjs</title>
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		<dc:creator>rocketpjs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 04:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Smug agreement.</description>
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		<title>By: gibbon1</title>
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		<dc:creator>gibbon1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 03:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My rough understanding is it only looks like parallel universes if your mathematical model isn&#039;t taking into to account the interactions between macroscopic collections of particles.

Simple model, the a playing card stood on end will fall in both directions. Complex model, a chain reaction will cause the card to fall one way or another.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My rough understanding is it only looks like parallel universes if your mathematical model isn&#8217;t taking into to account the interactions between macroscopic collections of particles.</p>
<p>Simple model, the a playing card stood on end will fall in both directions. Complex model, a chain reaction will cause the card to fall one way or another.</p>
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		<title>By: YamaraTheGod</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/08/steve-jurvetson-on-roses-l.html#comment-1551842</link>
		<dc:creator>YamaraTheGod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 03:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>. . . Tricky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. . . Tricky.</p>
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		<title>By: Boundegar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boundegar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 03:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So we&#039;ve solved that thing about calculating the position and momentum of every particle in the universe, and can do it faster than the actual universe.  The future is therefore known completely.  The rest you can now quit, the game is over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we&#8217;ve solved that thing about calculating the position and momentum of every particle in the universe, and can do it faster than the actual universe.  The future is therefore known completely.  The rest you can now quit, the game is over.</p>
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		<title>By: Boundegar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boundegar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 02:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes but you don&#039;t have millions of dollars.  Your argument is invalid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes but you don&#8217;t have millions of dollars.  Your argument is invalid.</p>
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		<title>By: Boundegar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boundegar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 02:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interpret all you want.  It&#039;s not evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interpret all you want.  It&#8217;s not evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: cfuse</title>
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		<dc:creator>cfuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 02:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In short, probably several.

Speed is just a measure of movement over time. The upper limit for movement is the speed of light, and I couldn&#039;t tell you what the upper limit of time is (only that time itself is a variable force, in much the same way gravity is).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In short, probably several.</p>
<p>Speed is just a measure of movement over time. The upper limit for movement is the speed of light, and I couldn&#8217;t tell you what the upper limit of time is (only that time itself is a variable force, in much the same way gravity is).</p>
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