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	<title>Comments on: Surreptitious recording of a stop-question-and-frisk in New&#160;York</title>
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		<title>By: Mordicai</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/09/surreptitious-recording-of-a-s.html#comment-1553951</link>
		<dc:creator>Mordicai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, saying &quot;[the] phrase “police state” is overused&quot; is one of those things that is true, but gets less true the less white you are.  Damn, whenever I remember the vast racist bias of the justice system-- which is frankly epic-- I get real bummed about my country.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, saying &#8220;[the] phrase “police state” is overused&#8221; is one of those things that is true, but gets less true the less white you are.  Damn, whenever I remember the vast racist bias of the justice system&#8211; which is frankly epic&#8211; I get real bummed about my country.</p>
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		<title>By: CLamb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/09/surreptitious-recording-of-a-s.html#comment-1553480</link>
		<dc:creator>CLamb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 22:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Perhaps the city should put up a sign for the drug house.</description>
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		<title>By: CLamb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/09/surreptitious-recording-of-a-s.html#comment-1553476</link>
		<dc:creator>CLamb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 22:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in the New York metro area I see more stories about stop and frisk on the evening TV news than I do about the TSA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in the New York metro area I see more stories about stop and frisk on the evening TV news than I do about the TSA.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/09/surreptitious-recording-of-a-s.html#comment-1553423</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;This digression is now closed.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That police commissioner belongs in jail.  And I don&#039;t mean that in a metaphorical, he&#039;s a jerk kind of way.

I mean it in a &quot;he really should be spending time in prison&quot; kind of way.  Somehow his BS got me angrier than the two thugs that assaulted the kid on tape.

And that got me plenty angry. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That police commissioner belongs in jail.  And I don&#8217;t mean that in a metaphorical, he&#8217;s a jerk kind of way.</p>
<p>I mean it in a &#8220;he really should be spending time in prison&#8221; kind of way.  Somehow his BS got me angrier than the two thugs that assaulted the kid on tape.</p>
<p>And that got me plenty angry. </p>
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		<title>By: filteredscenery</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/09/surreptitious-recording-of-a-s.html#comment-1553315</link>
		<dc:creator>filteredscenery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is nonsense.  US invasions (and other western countries&#039; imperialist endeavors) are indeed reprehensible, but quite different in character than the Japanese wars, as follows.  US/western invasions are supported by a small number of well-connected and corrupt warhawks who profit from the imperialist expansion, and people who support them think that they&#039;re spreading &quot;freedom&quot; or related virtues, with the approximately 1 million dead (in the latest US incarnation of western imperialism; the English, French, and everyone else are also guilty) being considered unfortunate collateral damage.  


The Japanese foreign invasions were based on a perceived &quot;racial superiority&quot;, which still exists to this day in the region.  They considered and still consider &quot;foreigners&quot;, such as the 10 million slaughtered during their thwarted expansion, to be inferior and basically worthy of being nothing but slaves to the &quot;supreme&quot; Japanese people.  Kill the men and enlist the women as, well.

This is not to justify any of these countries&#039; crimes, just to show that they are quite different in character.  Neither western economic imperialism nor eastern &quot;pure race&quot; expansion is dead, as we are seeing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is nonsense.  US invasions (and other western countries&#8217; imperialist endeavors) are indeed reprehensible, but quite different in character than the Japanese wars, as follows.  US/western invasions are supported by a small number of well-connected and corrupt warhawks who profit from the imperialist expansion, and people who support them think that they&#8217;re spreading &#8220;freedom&#8221; or related virtues, with the approximately 1 million dead (in the latest US incarnation of western imperialism; the English, French, and everyone else are also guilty) being considered unfortunate collateral damage.  </p>
<p>The Japanese foreign invasions were based on a perceived &#8220;racial superiority&#8221;, which still exists to this day in the region.  They considered and still consider &#8220;foreigners&#8221;, such as the 10 million slaughtered during their thwarted expansion, to be inferior and basically worthy of being nothing but slaves to the &#8220;supreme&#8221; Japanese people.  Kill the men and enlist the women as, well.</p>
<p>This is not to justify any of these countries&#8217; crimes, just to show that they are quite different in character.  Neither western economic imperialism nor eastern &#8220;pure race&#8221; expansion is dead, as we are seeing.</p>
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		<title>By: Navin_Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Navin_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has happened to me a number of times in Chicago over the years.  At least in our cases there is some kind of element of suspicion. In NYC it just seems like they&#039;re randomly shaking down brown folks to see what happens and to make quotas.  There&#039;s a long history of it:

http://www.villagevoice.com/2010-05-04/news/the-nypd-tapes-inside-bed-stuy-s-81st-precinct/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has happened to me a number of times in Chicago over the years.  At least in our cases there is some kind of element of suspicion. In NYC it just seems like they&#8217;re randomly shaking down brown folks to see what happens and to make quotas.  There&#8217;s a long history of it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.villagevoice.com/2010-05-04/news/the-nypd-tapes-inside-bed-stuy-s-81st-precinct/" rel="nofollow">http://www.villagevoice.com/2010-05-04/news/the-nypd-tapes-inside-bed-stuy-s-81st-precinct/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Sneede</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Sneede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy shit I was just Stopped Questioned &amp; Frisked!

Walking While White:

I was walking around the mostly haitian neighborhood (the non-yuppied side of town where I work in Delray Beach, Florida) like I do every day between 1pm and 2pm. A cop car was driving by and I decided to do an experiment. I turned and looked back at him like Alvin said he did in that video. I then kept walking in my random way around the streets. The cop would pull up to the end of the block and sit there and watch me walk, then when I turned the corner he&#039;d pull up to the end of that block and watch me walk. This happened for about half-an-hour as I aimlessly walked from one block to another as I usually do. I would notice the car there when I would cross the street and look both ways. I also happened to be on the phone the entire time. 

This continued until I was getting pretty close to being back at work. The cop pulled the car into the alley ahead of me blocking the sidewalk. He got out and I told him to hold on, I was on the phone. I finished the call and asked him what was up. He asked me a bunch of questions, said I was circling a known drug house. I told him I didn&#039;t know what houses were drug houses, I was just out walking around during my lunch break for exercise. He was incredulous. He said why were you circling a drug house and on the phone at the same time people in that house came out and were on the phone? He said do you do drugs?  Have you ever done drugs? I said come on, I was just walking around like I do every day at this time. He continued on about the known drug house as the second car pulled up. I told him I walk north in the good neighborhoods, south in the bad neighborhoods, west and east at the marina. He said I&#039;d rather you walk in the marina than around the drug house. I said I&#039;m sorry I&#039;m not taking my walks in the areas you&#039;d prefer me to. He asked if I had any weapons on me. I said weapons? I&#039;m at work. I&#039;m on my lunch break. I&#039;m going for a walk for exercise. He asked if he could pat me down. I said yes. He did. He asked me for my license. He once again went on about the known drug house. I asked him how would I know which houses are known drug houses? He said I looked back to look at him. He said I kept looking at him, and even did a U-turn. I told him I did a U-turn because I was at the train track (don&#039;t know what would have happened if I took the foot path across the tracks where his car couldn&#039;t go. Probably would have jumped out and arrested me for trespassing on the tracks). I told him I looked at him once, and that was it. I told him I looked at him as an experiment because I had just watched a video where someone was stopped for looking back at the police. He went on and on about the known drug house while waiting for my information to come back. When it did he gave me my license back. I asked him his name and walked off.  This is a lot different than what&#039;s going on in NYC (can you imagine telling the cop there to hold on while you finished your call?). Also, I don&#039;t think they ask first before frisking. And I wasn&#039;t pushed, punched or yelled at. But, I was followed, and questions for merely being out for a walk (on a sunny day) in the area close to where I work. I was suspected because I just looked in his direction. I was put under the microscope because I did something I didn&#039;t even know I did (walk near a &quot;known drug house&quot;).  What if I wasn&#039;t so lucky and had a swiss army knife on me? What if I did have some prior arrests? This is no trivial matter. Something needs to be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy shit I was just Stopped Questioned &amp; Frisked!</p>
<p>Walking While White:</p>
<p>I was walking around the mostly haitian neighborhood (the non-yuppied side of town where I work in Delray Beach, Florida) like I do every day between 1pm and 2pm. A cop car was driving by and I decided to do an experiment. I turned and looked back at him like Alvin said he did in that video. I then kept walking in my random way around the streets. The cop would pull up to the end of the block and sit there and watch me walk, then when I turned the corner he&#8217;d pull up to the end of that block and watch me walk. This happened for about half-an-hour as I aimlessly walked from one block to another as I usually do. I would notice the car there when I would cross the street and look both ways. I also happened to be on the phone the entire time. </p>
<p>This continued until I was getting pretty close to being back at work. The cop pulled the car into the alley ahead of me blocking the sidewalk. He got out and I told him to hold on, I was on the phone. I finished the call and asked him what was up. He asked me a bunch of questions, said I was circling a known drug house. I told him I didn&#8217;t know what houses were drug houses, I was just out walking around during my lunch break for exercise. He was incredulous. He said why were you circling a drug house and on the phone at the same time people in that house came out and were on the phone? He said do you do drugs?  Have you ever done drugs? I said come on, I was just walking around like I do every day at this time. He continued on about the known drug house as the second car pulled up. I told him I walk north in the good neighborhoods, south in the bad neighborhoods, west and east at the marina. He said I&#8217;d rather you walk in the marina than around the drug house. I said I&#8217;m sorry I&#8217;m not taking my walks in the areas you&#8217;d prefer me to. He asked if I had any weapons on me. I said weapons? I&#8217;m at work. I&#8217;m on my lunch break. I&#8217;m going for a walk for exercise. He asked if he could pat me down. I said yes. He did. He asked me for my license. He once again went on about the known drug house. I asked him how would I know which houses are known drug houses? He said I looked back to look at him. He said I kept looking at him, and even did a U-turn. I told him I did a U-turn because I was at the train track (don&#8217;t know what would have happened if I took the foot path across the tracks where his car couldn&#8217;t go. Probably would have jumped out and arrested me for trespassing on the tracks). I told him I looked at him once, and that was it. I told him I looked at him as an experiment because I had just watched a video where someone was stopped for looking back at the police. He went on and on about the known drug house while waiting for my information to come back. When it did he gave me my license back. I asked him his name and walked off.  This is a lot different than what&#8217;s going on in NYC (can you imagine telling the cop there to hold on while you finished your call?). Also, I don&#8217;t think they ask first before frisking. And I wasn&#8217;t pushed, punched or yelled at. But, I was followed, and questions for merely being out for a walk (on a sunny day) in the area close to where I work. I was suspected because I just looked in his direction. I was put under the microscope because I did something I didn&#8217;t even know I did (walk near a &#8220;known drug house&#8221;).  What if I wasn&#8217;t so lucky and had a swiss army knife on me? What if I did have some prior arrests? This is no trivial matter. Something needs to be done.</p>
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		<title>By: Just_Ok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just_Ok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was expecting the Spanish Inquisition</description>
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		<title>By: donovan acree</title>
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		<dc:creator>donovan acree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>34,500 uniformed (as in cops who will arrest you but not counting plain clothes and desk jockeys) and a $3,900,000,000 per year budget. That&#039;s one uniformed cop for every 238 NYC residents and $473 spent in law enforcement for every single NYC resident.

By any reasonable standard, that&#039;s overkill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>34,500 uniformed (as in cops who will arrest you but not counting plain clothes and desk jockeys) and a $3,900,000,000 per year budget. That&#8217;s one uniformed cop for every 238 NYC residents and $473 spent in law enforcement for every single NYC resident.</p>
<p>By any reasonable standard, that&#8217;s overkill.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Carley Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Carley Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> No one EVER expects the Police Church!</description>
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		<title>By: The Oven Eye</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Oven Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Stop and Frisk Watch” – a free and innovative smart phone application that will empower New Yorkers to monitor police activity and hold the NYPD accountable for unlawful stop-and-frisk encounters and other police misconduct.
http://www.nyclu.org/app</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Stop and Frisk Watch” – a free and innovative smart phone application that will empower New Yorkers to monitor police activity and hold the NYPD accountable for unlawful stop-and-frisk encounters and other police misconduct.<br />
<a href="http://www.nyclu.org/app" rel="nofollow">http://www.nyclu.org/app</a></p>
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		<title>By: donovan acree</title>
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		<dc:creator>donovan acree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happily, what you don&#039;t have a problem with is not a measure employed by our legal system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happily, what you don&#8217;t have a problem with is not a measure employed by our legal system.</p>
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		<title>By: donovan acree</title>
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		<dc:creator>donovan acree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most people who are ashamed of themselves don&#039;t like it when you look in to their eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people who are ashamed of themselves don&#8217;t like it when you look in to their eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Navin_Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Navin_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giancarlo Esposito (aka Gus Fring) was stop and frisked while coming out of a theater he was rehearsing in:

http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2012/06/15/500202/giancarlo-esposito-was-stopped-and-frisked-in-new-york/?mobile=nc </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giancarlo Esposito (aka Gus Fring) was stop and frisked while coming out of a theater he was rehearsing in:</p>
<p><a href="http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2012/06/15/500202/giancarlo-esposito-was-stopped-and-frisked-in-new-york/?mobile=nc" rel="nofollow">http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2012/06/15/500202/giancarlo-esposito-was-stopped-and-frisked-in-new-york/?mobile=nc</a> </p>
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		<title>By: Navin_Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Navin_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>American politicians (and citizens) are the same. This seems like universal behavior when it comes to nations having to whitewash what they&#039;ve done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American politicians (and citizens) are the same. This seems like universal behavior when it comes to nations having to whitewash what they&#8217;ve done.</p>
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		<title>By: disillusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>disillusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I know, was just quoting that black lawyer from Florida that showed up to his son&#039;s friend&#039;s birthday party in I believe it was a Mercedes.  Believe there was an article about it a few months back here on BB.  The police asked him for ID, he pulled out his businees card, and they said &quot;not your lawyer, your ID,&quot; and he proceeded to tell them he was a lawyer and then sued em and won.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I know, was just quoting that black lawyer from Florida that showed up to his son&#8217;s friend&#8217;s birthday party in I believe it was a Mercedes.  Believe there was an article about it a few months back here on BB.  The police asked him for ID, he pulled out his businees card, and they said &#8220;not your lawyer, your ID,&#8221; and he proceeded to tell them he was a lawyer and then sued em and won.</p>
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		<title>By: royaltrux</title>
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		<dc:creator>royaltrux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> They called him a &quot;mutt&quot;!.</description>
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		<title>By: J. Brad Hicks</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Brad Hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As best as I can decode it (and I&#039;m mildly autistic, so I have to approach this as a decoding problem, as a kind of man-in-the-middle hack, the way I had to learn all social interaction skills), what police want is to be treated as if they are invisible any time that they are not addressing you directly; they want you to know that they&#039;re there, and they want you to know that they&#039;re watching, but they react very badly to the idea that you&#039;re watching them. My guess is that on some deep level they think that if the only people who are watching them are the people who have to keep an eye out for the police, that gives them a leg up in identifying perpetrators.*

And, as with all authority figures (especially as with all insecure authority figures) it is absolutely essential that when they do address you, you demonstrate submissive language and tone of voice. (Which, by the way, I utterly suck at, after 50+ years I still haven&#039;t learned to do a convincing job of imitating a submissive neurotypical. It&#039;s hard!) Superior-to-subordinate communication style suggests to them that you think you&#039;re above the law; peer-to-peer communication style suggests to them that you don&#039;t respect their authority and will expect to be negotiated with when they give you an order.

* Once I again, I pass along a bit of wisdom I was given by a cop long ago: all cops graduate from the academy having learned to divide the world into three categories: (1) cops, (2) perps, and (3) potential perps. After at most three years on the job, most of them conclude that category 3 doesn&#039;t exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As best as I can decode it (and I&#8217;m mildly autistic, so I have to approach this as a decoding problem, as a kind of man-in-the-middle hack, the way I had to learn all social interaction skills), what police want is to be treated as if they are invisible any time that they are not addressing you directly; they want you to know that they&#8217;re there, and they want you to know that they&#8217;re watching, but they react very badly to the idea that you&#8217;re watching them. My guess is that on some deep level they think that if the only people who are watching them are the people who have to keep an eye out for the police, that gives them a leg up in identifying perpetrators.*</p>
<p>And, as with all authority figures (especially as with all insecure authority figures) it is absolutely essential that when they do address you, you demonstrate submissive language and tone of voice. (Which, by the way, I utterly suck at, after 50+ years I still haven&#8217;t learned to do a convincing job of imitating a submissive neurotypical. It&#8217;s hard!) Superior-to-subordinate communication style suggests to them that you think you&#8217;re above the law; peer-to-peer communication style suggests to them that you don&#8217;t respect their authority and will expect to be negotiated with when they give you an order.</p>
<p>* Once I again, I pass along a bit of wisdom I was given by a cop long ago: all cops graduate from the academy having learned to divide the world into three categories: (1) cops, (2) perps, and (3) potential perps. After at most three years on the job, most of them conclude that category 3 doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
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		<title>By: awjt</title>
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		<dc:creator>awjt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Awesome!</description>
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		<title>By: Jerry Sneede</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Sneede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To anyone who lives in NYC: Start a task force, document as many of these S&amp;Fs as possible and post them. You might be arrested, but if thousands of people rise up against this, it will stop. We need a revolution. Stop complaining about this and do something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To anyone who lives in NYC: Start a task force, document as many of these S&amp;Fs as possible and post them. You might be arrested, but if thousands of people rise up against this, it will stop. We need a revolution. Stop complaining about this and do something.</p>
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		<title>By: oasisob1</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only the definition were so narrow. Weather doesn&#039;t seem to matter. And it&#039;s not only &#039;being black&#039; - they target all non-white races equally. That&#039;s &#039;fair&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only the definition were so narrow. Weather doesn&#8217;t seem to matter. And it&#8217;s not only &#8216;being black&#8217; &#8211; they target all non-white races equally. That&#8217;s &#8216;fair&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: oasisob1</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why are you stopping me officer?&quot;
&quot;You look suspicious, sir.&quot;
&quot;I&#039;m an elderly white guy in a business suit, carrying a briefcase, officer. How do I look suspicious?&quot; &quot;You look like a banker; I assume you&#039;re about to go wrongly foreclose on a house.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why are you stopping me officer?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;You look suspicious, sir.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I&#8217;m an elderly white guy in a business suit, carrying a briefcase, officer. How do I look suspicious?&#8221; &#8220;You look like a banker; I assume you&#8217;re about to go wrongly foreclose on a house.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: howaboutthisdangit</title>
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		<dc:creator>howaboutthisdangit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cops would probably get more drug busts if they did that.</description>
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		<title>By: 666beast1</title>
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		<dc:creator>666beast1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the tape it sounds like the terrorists won and they&#039;re working for the NYPD. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the tape it sounds like the terrorists won and they&#8217;re working for the NYPD. </p>
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		<title>By: TheMudshark</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMudshark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denial of war crimes and genocide are wide spread among Japanese politicians. They never underwent the process of facing their forefathers´ crimes like Germany, and much later even Austria, did. Their school books still feature a lot of distorted history, like the ones in Austria did until the Seventies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denial of war crimes and genocide are wide spread among Japanese politicians. They never underwent the process of facing their forefathers´ crimes like Germany, and much later even Austria, did. Their school books still feature a lot of distorted history, like the ones in Austria did until the Seventies.</p>
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		<title>By: TheMudshark</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMudshark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look cops in the face all the time, but then again, I don´t live in NYC. The only people I know that can´t take being looked in the face where little rascals at the playground when I was about 10.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look cops in the face all the time, but then again, I don´t live in NYC. The only people I know that can´t take being looked in the face where little rascals at the playground when I was about 10.</p>
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		<title>By: leidentech</title>
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		<dc:creator>leidentech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s anecdotal and all that  - but around urban/suburban NYC where I lived in my late teens and 20s, I had some kind of interaction with cops about twice a year.

Since I moved to the Netherlands that number has dropped to zero in 10 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s anecdotal and all that  &#8211; but around urban/suburban NYC where I lived in my late teens and 20s, I had some kind of interaction with cops about twice a year.</p>
<p>Since I moved to the Netherlands that number has dropped to zero in 10 years.</p>
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		<title>By: cdh1971</title>
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		<dc:creator>cdh1971</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand, and agree with your sentiment and I&#039;m sure I&#039;m over-thinking your comment....


...but if such a formal or informal set date or dates were selected to do a &#039;Stop and Frisk&#039; of a select elite, I&#039;m sure the whichever elite would, when stopped, heartily comply with a smile, perhaps make a few jokes about being hassled by the &#039;Man&#039;, then go on their venal way -- Leading by Example don&#039;t you know. This farce would then be used as yet another propaganda tool......much like the fundraisers in which people who can afford it pledge money then spend a day or less in a jail cell...


...or the so-called charity-balls that maybe contribute a few pennies to the needy but are really a cynical way to deduct the cost of the ball, and create the image of giving a flying f_ck about the needy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand, and agree with your sentiment and I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m over-thinking your comment&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;but if such a formal or informal set date or dates were selected to do a &#8216;Stop and Frisk&#8217; of a select elite, I&#8217;m sure the whichever elite would, when stopped, heartily comply with a smile, perhaps make a few jokes about being hassled by the &#8216;Man&#8217;, then go on their venal way &#8212; Leading by Example don&#8217;t you know. This farce would then be used as yet another propaganda tool&#8230;&#8230;much like the fundraisers in which people who can afford it pledge money then spend a day or less in a jail cell&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;or the so-called charity-balls that maybe contribute a few pennies to the needy but are really a cynical way to deduct the cost of the ball, and create the image of giving a flying f_ck about the needy.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Become a police officer. Only frisk white guys in business suits. Explain the policies that are in place. See policies change overnight.</description>
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