Comments on: Action Philosophers: philosophy of the ages in comic form

By: Peter Kemmer

Peter Kemmer — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:28:00 +0000

So awesome that you’re getting all the love, Ryan! Featured on BoingBoing fistbump!

By: BTD

BTD — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 22:21:00 +0000

I found out about the comic because of Fred’s comic work in things like Iron Man and your art help sell it to me. I like your work and cannot wait to see what else is coming up.

I gave a copy of the book to a friend taking philosophy and she thought it was fun to read. Much less stressful to take in than the normal textbooks.

By: Creepy Ryan Dunlavey

Creepy Ryan Dunlavey — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:54:00 +0000

Thanks so much for the post Cory!
That “poster” was actually a piece of original art I did for the New York Comic Con charity auction: http://www.newyorkcomiccon.com/Whats-Happening/Events-I-Q/NYCC-Charity-Art-Auction/ and the joke was written by actor Ben Fine http://www.benfine.com/ , who ad-libbed it when he played both Friedrich Nietsche and Jean-Paul Sartre in the Action Philosophers stage play.
Based on the positive response it got, I’m thinking I should probably make a print available too!

By: Creepy Ryan Dunlavey

Creepy Ryan Dunlavey — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:49:00 +0000

Thanks for the kind words!
Action Presidents is debuting as part of The Graphic Textbook in spring 2013: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/readingwithpictures/the-graphic-textbook and in singular comics form shortly thereafter.

By: Creepy Ryan Dunlavey

Creepy Ryan Dunlavey — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:46:00 +0000

Hi! This is Ryan Dunlavey, the artist of the book.

Fred and I consciously took a neutral position with every figure featured in Action Philosophers (of which the Rand section only occupies 8 out of 300+ pages) and tried our best not to let our personal biases and belief systems slip through. The fact is that a lot of people *do* consider Rand to be a philosopher, and we thought her story was interesting enough to include it, so we did. Whether you or I agree with her philosophical relevancy is kind of moot.

Honestly I never knew Rand was such a polarizing figure until I made this comic, I thought she was just a boring writer and her followers were largely assholes, but it made a fun comic.

We do blur the line quite a bit with who is included in our philosophy pantheon – for example both Sigmund Freud and Thomas Jefferson are featured prominently and we excluded both Socarates and Russell, choosing to fold their philosophies into the Plato and Wittgenstein stories, respectively, simply because they made for more interesting comics.

Really the comic is just a way for us to entertainingly encapsulate history’s best known thinkers. We’ve never claim to be authoritative or comprehensive, just factual and funny.

Thanks for reading!

By: An Infinitude of Tortoises

An Infinitude of Tortoises — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 04:45:00 +0000

I’d like to see Karl Marx with a Rimbaud. And yes, I do have a particular on in mind.

By: An Infinitude of Tortoises

An Infinitude of Tortoises — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 04:43:00 +0000

With all due respect to Rand's mouldering bones, Atlas Shrugged can be gotten not only through but also over.

By: ravenlunatick

ravenlunatick — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 23:04:00 +0000

How did I not know of this before? This is pure, weapons grade awesome.

By: redhead

redhead — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:33:00 +0000

I love Action Philosophers. I wish this stuff had been available when I was in high school and college. I’d have been much more likely to take a philosophy class if the material had been presented in comic book form!

once upon a time the Action Philsophers guys were supposedly working on Action Presidents. anyone know if that ever happened/is going to happen?

By: EH

EH — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:38:00 +0000

I see it as more like cocaine for teens, where Pirsig is the crack waiting for them once they reach college.

By: dragonfrog

dragonfrog — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:34:00 +0000

Never did understand that. But then, I was convinced I was a communist when I was 16.

By: dragonfrog

dragonfrog — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:33:00 +0000

Karl Marx 1818 – 1883
AK-47 1947 – 1974

By: Iam Randbot

Iam Randbot — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 15:19:00 +0000

Yeah one of the problems with the book was the american-centric point of view, that is the author actually claims Rand is a philosopher. If you talk to real philosophers they rarely recognize Rand because she didn’t try to be a philosopher, she pushed ideology over everything else.

There are a few good explanations here: http://www.quora.com/Ayn-Rand/Why-do-philosophers-ignore-Ayn-Rand

“There’s good reason why I don’t list Ayn Rand as an American philosopher: I don’t consider her a philosopher. Neither do other philosophers — you won’t find her works taught in most (any?) philosophy departments. You also won’t find her discussed in any standard works on the history of philosophy — either in general or specifically American philosophy.”

http://atheism.about.com/b/2006/05/10/whats-wrong-with-ayn-rand.htm

If someone is teaching Objectivism in a philosophy course, they are either a Randian or they are trying to educate students about examples of non-philosophy. Rand was never able stand her ground against philosophers and her sole attempt in her epistimology book was roundly rejected.

By: Grady Hendrix

Grady Hendrix — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 14:23:00 +0000

I’m so bummed Ryan was sold out of the comic book cookbook we did together before Saturday. It’s half recipes, and half the story of Dirt Candy, my wife’s restaurant in NYC. We were lured into working with Ryan via ACTION PHILOSOPHERS and it was great. If you’re interested…

Here’s the book trailer Ryan and I made for the Dirt Candy cookbook:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u7GfLGNG3s

And here’s the Comics Journal review of the cookbook:
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/08/23/dirt-candy-graphic-novel-cookbook-amanda-cohen-grady-hendrix-ryan-dunlavey-review/

You can buy a signed copy here:
http://shop.dirtcandynyc.com/products/cookbook

By: asmodeus82

asmodeus82 — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 11:52:00 +0000

I love this. I must have it. Thank you pointing that out.

By: Daemonworks

Daemonworks — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:50:00 +0000

This reminds me, somebody really needs to make a real version of Dungeons and Discourse
http://dresdencodak.com/2006/12/03/dungeons-and-discourse/
http://dresdencodak.com/2009/01/27/advanced-dungeons-and-discourse/

By: Boundegar

Boundegar — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:48:00 +0000

Damn that book is like crack for teens, isn’t it?

By: Boris Bartlog

Boris Bartlog — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:26:00 +0000

Seconded. And I say that as someone who read Atlas Shrugged and liked it (I was 16). There is no actual philosophy in there… it’s a polemic dressed up as a novel.

By: Ian Wood

Ian Wood — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:12:00 +0000

Because it’s Karl Marx. With a Ramboband. And a machine gun.

By: Kevin Sweeney

Kevin Sweeney — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 07:08:00 +0000

No one calling Ayn Rand a philosopher expects to be taken seriously.

And rightly so

By: markus baur

markus baur — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 06:42:00 +0000

why is marx using a fantasy gun and not a kalashinkov?

By: noah django

noah django — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 06:04:00 +0000

>2012
>recognizing Objectivism as legit

By: EH

EH — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 04:02:00 +0000

A beautiful thing.

By: grimc

grimc — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 03:35:00 +0000

“No one can get through ‘Atlas Shrugged’!”

Damn, that’s pretty fantastic right there. Sold.