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		<title>By: Ryan Lenethen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/nypd-officers-beat-homeless-ma.html#comment-1565271</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Lenethen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A) It&#039;s called sharing...
B) Who wants to tangle against an actual armed, dangerous criminal? I&#039;ll take homeless beatings any day of the week!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A) It&#8217;s called sharing&#8230;<br />
B) Who wants to tangle against an actual armed, dangerous criminal? I&#8217;ll take homeless beatings any day of the week!</p>
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		<title>By: That_Anonymous_Coward</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/nypd-officers-beat-homeless-ma.html#comment-1565011</link>
		<dc:creator>That_Anonymous_Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the city that has time to outlaw smoking, transfat, and you getting a soda that is to big... can&#039;t seem to deal with the itty bitty little issue of the police violating people&#039;s civil rights and beating the crap out of the &quot;less desirable&quot; elements. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the city that has time to outlaw smoking, transfat, and you getting a soda that is to big&#8230; can&#8217;t seem to deal with the itty bitty little issue of the police violating people&#8217;s civil rights and beating the crap out of the &#8220;less desirable&#8221; elements. </p>
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		<title>By: aikimoe</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/nypd-officers-beat-homeless-ma.html#comment-1564856</link>
		<dc:creator>aikimoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most major news publications engage in hyperbole and poorly researched articles now and again (some more frequently than others).  It certainly doesn&#039;t follow that they are &quot;not reliable sources for anything.&quot;

Suggesting that Reason ignores reality that doesn&#039;t fit its narrative is simply false.  

http://reason.com/archives/2009/12/07/why-prefer-french-health-care

http://reason.com/blog/2012/10/21/george-mcgovern-rip

The two head-honchos there are happy to express their belief in environmental regulations and a social safety net.  But they have no problem in explaining how those things could be managed more efficiently and effectively.

They address reality and they suggest ways of dealing with it.  Like I said, I don&#039;t always agree, but not agreeing with the proper role of government, doesn&#039;t mean that they&#039;re ignoring reality. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most major news publications engage in hyperbole and poorly researched articles now and again (some more frequently than others).  It certainly doesn&#8217;t follow that they are &#8220;not reliable sources for anything.&#8221;</p>
<p>Suggesting that Reason ignores reality that doesn&#8217;t fit its narrative is simply false.  </p>
<p><a href="http://reason.com/archives/2009/12/07/why-prefer-french-health-care" rel="nofollow">http://reason.com/archives/2009/12/07/why-prefer-french-health-care</a></p>
<p><a href="http://reason.com/blog/2012/10/21/george-mcgovern-rip" rel="nofollow">http://reason.com/blog/2012/10/21/george-mcgovern-rip</a></p>
<p>The two head-honchos there are happy to express their belief in environmental regulations and a social safety net.  But they have no problem in explaining how those things could be managed more efficiently and effectively.</p>
<p>They address reality and they suggest ways of dealing with it.  Like I said, I don&#8217;t always agree, but not agreeing with the proper role of government, doesn&#8217;t mean that they&#8217;re ignoring reality. </p>
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		<title>By: IronEdithKidd</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/nypd-officers-beat-homeless-ma.html#comment-1564817</link>
		<dc:creator>IronEdithKidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s try to keep in mind that BB is not a news site.  It is a blog.  Reason purports to be some flavor of journalism.  Also, I was responding directly to the linked Reason article.  In addition, everything I&#039;ve ever read on that site is so heavily biased toward a libertarian POV that I can&#039;t consider it reliable for honest reportage.  Ignoring a sector of reality that doesn&#039;t fit your narrative does not a reliable journalistic source make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s try to keep in mind that BB is not a news site.  It is a blog.  Reason purports to be some flavor of journalism.  Also, I was responding directly to the linked Reason article.  In addition, everything I&#8217;ve ever read on that site is so heavily biased toward a libertarian POV that I can&#8217;t consider it reliable for honest reportage.  Ignoring a sector of reality that doesn&#8217;t fit your narrative does not a reliable journalistic source make.</p>
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		<title>By: aikimoe</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/nypd-officers-beat-homeless-ma.html#comment-1564636</link>
		<dc:creator>aikimoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The title is hyperbolic to be sure, but are you saying the facts in the article, or indeed, none of the facts that Reason reports are reliable?

I don&#039;t agree with Reason on lots of things, but they do some solid reporting.

If I find a Boing Boing (or Time or Newsweek or New York Times) article with a hyperbolic or factually incorrect article, it wouldn&#039;t really be fair or reasonable to dismiss everything from that source, would it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The title is hyperbolic to be sure, but are you saying the facts in the article, or indeed, none of the facts that Reason reports are reliable?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with Reason on lots of things, but they do some solid reporting.</p>
<p>If I find a Boing Boing (or Time or Newsweek or New York Times) article with a hyperbolic or factually incorrect article, it wouldn&#8217;t really be fair or reasonable to dismiss everything from that source, would it?</p>
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		<title>By: IronEdithKidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>IronEdithKidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reason is not a reliable source for anything.   http://www.google.com/search?q=cop+fired&amp;rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;startIndex=&amp;startPage=1&amp;rlz=1I7ADFA_enUS442&amp;safe=active&amp;oq=cop+fired&amp;gs_l=heirloom-serp.3..0l10.3625.7203.0.7687.18.13.0.1.1.3.187.920.12j1.13.0...0.0...1c.1.4r77rTjCggg

Just sayin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reason is not a reliable source for anything.   http://www.google.com/search?q=cop+fired&amp;rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;startIndex=&amp;startPage=1&amp;rlz=1I7ADFA_enUS442&amp;safe=active&amp;oq=cop+fired&amp;gs_l=heirloom-serp.3..0l10.3625.7203.0.7687.18.13.0.1.1.3.187.920.12j1.13.0&#8230;0.0&#8230;1c.1.4r77rTjCggg</p>
<p>Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ripcord2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ripcord2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...And the charges were dropped, so the decisions above would no longer apply.  That won&#039;t stop the next guy from getting brutalized, or murdered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;And the charges were dropped, so the decisions above would no longer apply.  That won&#8217;t stop the next guy from getting brutalized, or murdered.</p>
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		<title>By: Ripcord2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ripcord2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He deserved it&quot; is different from &quot;he may have given the cops reason to consider him a threat&quot;, which is how I read what he said.  Still, this looks like pretty clear failure to de-escalate a situation and incredibly poor way to subdue a &quot;suspect&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He deserved it&#8221; is different from &#8220;he may have given the cops reason to consider him a threat&#8221;, which is how I read what he said.  Still, this looks like pretty clear failure to de-escalate a situation and incredibly poor way to subdue a &#8220;suspect&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/nypd-officers-beat-homeless-ma.html#comment-1564350</link>
		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;but I don&#039;t think we can say for sure that this guy was completely innocent either.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&quot;Well we can imagine he maybe did something wrong...so he deserved it!&quot;  Terrible argument, dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>but I don&#8217;t think we can say for sure that this guy was completely innocent either.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Well we can imagine he maybe did something wrong&#8230;so he deserved it!&#8221;  Terrible argument, dude.</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you were a police dispatcher and got a call about a homeless man sleeping in a synagogue how many units do &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; think it would be appropriate to send?  Unless the guy is really the Maxx I think two covering it with two for backup would be more than enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were a police dispatcher and got a call about a homeless man sleeping in a synagogue how many units do <em>you</em> think it would be appropriate to send?  Unless the guy is really the Maxx I think two covering it with two for backup would be more than enough.</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In fact the USA has recently jailed people who broke those rules while in combat areas.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Only when the incident is so bad it can&#039;t be covered up or otherwise excused.  From what I can tell the rules of engagement provide quite a bit of leeway. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In fact the USA has recently jailed people who broke those rules while in combat areas.</p></blockquote>
<p>Only when the incident is so bad it can&#8217;t be covered up or otherwise excused.  From what I can tell the rules of engagement provide quite a bit of leeway. </p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/nypd-officers-beat-homeless-ma.html#comment-1564338</link>
		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, it would be bad no matter who it happened to.  But when&#039;s the last time you saw a cop beating down a guy in a three-piece suit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, it would be bad no matter who it happened to.  But when&#8217;s the last time you saw a cop beating down a guy in a three-piece suit?</p>
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		<title>By: donovan acree</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/nypd-officers-beat-homeless-ma.html#comment-1564296</link>
		<dc:creator>donovan acree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The arrest was illegal. The man had the right to be where he was. Defending yourself against unlawful arrest is a right older than the U.S. and our courts have time and time upheld this most basic of rights.

The most pertinent case IMO would be Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.
“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” 

Or, perhaps State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260. “An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.”

Also See
John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529. 
State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100
Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306
and on and on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The arrest was illegal. The man had the right to be where he was. Defending yourself against unlawful arrest is a right older than the U.S. and our courts have time and time upheld this most basic of rights.</p>
<p>The most pertinent case IMO would be Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.<br />
“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” </p>
<p>Or, perhaps State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260. “An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.”</p>
<p>Also See<br />
John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529. <br />
State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100<br />
Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306<br />
and on and on</p>
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		<title>By: donovan acree</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/nypd-officers-beat-homeless-ma.html#comment-1564285</link>
		<dc:creator>donovan acree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s right. It&#039;s just another way the system keeps the poor poor.

Any time a homeless person gets a job and receives a check, they are fined by the bank cashing their check (even for checks drawn on that bank) since they don&#039;t have an account they cannot get since they don&#039;t have a home.Stay classy bankers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right. It&#8217;s just another way the system keeps the poor poor.</p>
<p>Any time a homeless person gets a job and receives a check, they are fined by the bank cashing their check (even for checks drawn on that bank) since they don&#8217;t have an account they cannot get since they don&#8217;t have a home.Stay classy bankers!</p>
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		<title>By: donovan acree</title>
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		<dc:creator>donovan acree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right Right. Haditha, where 24 unarmed people were killed by Marines. I see that as an excellent example of why the military should never be used as a police force. 

Military training in no way prepares you to be a police officer. These are entirely different disciplines. 
Don&#039;t be fooled because both cops and soldiers wear uniforms and carry guns. Training as one does not qualify you to be the other. The police are to protect the people. The people are their boss and their charge. The military are trained to kill people. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right Right. Haditha, where 24 unarmed people were killed by Marines. I see that as an excellent example of why the military should never be used as a police force. </p>
<p>Military training in no way prepares you to be a police officer. These are entirely different disciplines. <br />
Don&#8217;t be fooled because both cops and soldiers wear uniforms and carry guns. Training as one does not qualify you to be the other. The police are to protect the people. The people are their boss and their charge. The military are trained to kill people. </p>
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		<title>By: Ian G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the problem going unstated here though is that if an officer intends to batter, hospitalize, or even put you in fear for your life, you have no options legally to prevent that at the time. It is a shield that thugs like these two apparently are hide behind and use as a cue to brutalize people when they feel like it. The only reason this man had recourse is the synagogue recorded the incident and appears to have felt it was clearly out of line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem going unstated here though is that if an officer intends to batter, hospitalize, or even put you in fear for your life, you have no options legally to prevent that at the time. It is a shield that thugs like these two apparently are hide behind and use as a cue to brutalize people when they feel like it. The only reason this man had recourse is the synagogue recorded the incident and appears to have felt it was clearly out of line.</p>
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		<title>By: insert</title>
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		<dc:creator>insert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s worth noting that the Brooklyn DA dropped the charges against the beating victim:  http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/22/charges-dropped-against-man-seen-beaten-by-police-in-video/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s worth noting that the Brooklyn DA dropped the charges against the beating victim:  <a href="http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/22/charges-dropped-against-man-seen-beaten-by-police-in-video/" rel="nofollow">http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/22/charges-dropped-against-man-seen-beaten-by-police-in-video/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jerril</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> A home address and two pieces of photo ID, in some places. Which is even harder to get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> A home address and two pieces of photo ID, in some places. Which is even harder to get.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerril</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) calling for help beating up a half naked unarmed man is sort of ridiculous in the first place
2) All available units showing up to beat up a half naked unarmed man means there are no available units for when a police officer calls for backup against an actual armed, dangerous criminal.

It&#039;s called proper use of force and proper distribution of resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) calling for help beating up a half naked unarmed man is sort of ridiculous in the first place<br />
2) All available units showing up to beat up a half naked unarmed man means there are no available units for when a police officer calls for backup against an actual armed, dangerous criminal.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s called proper use of force and proper distribution of resources.</p>
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		<title>By: FoolishOwl</title>
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		<dc:creator>FoolishOwl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It did look to me like the homeless man briefly made a defiant gesture.

Then the male cop punched him, and knocked him down onto the couch, and continuously punched him for about thirty seconds. We can see the homeless man curled up in a fetal position, protecting his face. Eventually the male cop took a break, and the female cop started jabbing him with a baton. Then they propped up the homeless man for a moment, then pushed him back down and started beating him again.

In other words, the homeless man looked threatening for an instant, and then was continuously beaten, even though he immediately stopped showing any signs of resistance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It did look to me like the homeless man briefly made a defiant gesture.</p>
<p>Then the male cop punched him, and knocked him down onto the couch, and continuously punched him for about thirty seconds. We can see the homeless man curled up in a fetal position, protecting his face. Eventually the male cop took a break, and the female cop started jabbing him with a baton. Then they propped up the homeless man for a moment, then pushed him back down and started beating him again.</p>
<p>In other words, the homeless man looked threatening for an instant, and then was continuously beaten, even though he immediately stopped showing any signs of resistance.</p>
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		<title>By: Thorzdad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thorzdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Next time you&#039;re sleeping, we&#039;ll have some guys in uniform come around and roust you, just to see how compliant and aware you are as you&#039;re being ripped from a sound sleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Next time you&#8217;re sleeping, we&#8217;ll have some guys in uniform come around and roust you, just to see how compliant and aware you are as you&#8217;re being ripped from a sound sleep.</p>
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		<title>By: Ipo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ipo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> My lawyer advised me to leave the country because I wasn&#039;t safe.  I did.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> My lawyer advised me to leave the country because I wasn&#8217;t safe.  I did.  </p>
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		<title>By: Ipo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/nypd-officers-beat-homeless-ma.html#comment-1564142</link>
		<dc:creator>Ipo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for being that guy.

Resisting without violence is a misdemeanor offense, you can get up to a year for that.
Raising your hand, as if  to hit a cop, is assault on a PO.
Hitting another person is battery. Battery doesn&#039;t have to be a hit or strike, touching a cop will typically be considered a battery, a third degree felony with a maximum penalty of 5 years in prison and a $5,000 fine.  Touching, shoving, spitting and all that are battery.
Yes, the laws are that fucked up.

So, by law and according to this video, the sleeper seems guilty of resisting arrest, assault and battery, before the cop attacks him, unprofessionally, as if this was a bar fight.
Those are two different things.

Just my opinion, as someone that has probably amassed a century in possible prison time for not playing nice with uniformed authority, because they don&#039;t. 
I&#039;ve received all the beatings I can stand in this life when I was a child. I don&#039;t let anyone hit me or others now that I&#039;m big.
The sleeper does.  The attached picture shows how he opens up, moving his arms behind him, giving the cop a clear shot at his face and throat, when the cop, n00blike, &quot;announces&quot; that he intends to hit him and even where he is aiming.
The sleepers motions at the time immediately before he gets hit are equivalent to that of a puppy rolling over exposing his throat and belly.
He doesn&#039;t even fight back at all, he just really doesn&#039;t want to get restrained and arrested.

Why are there so many cops?
They would have needed them all for me. 
(Internet tuff guy-ish, I know, but I just happen to get a kick ...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for being that guy.</p>
<p>Resisting without violence is a misdemeanor offense, you can get up to a year for that.<br />
Raising your hand, as if  to hit a cop, is assault on a PO.<br />
Hitting another person is battery. Battery doesn&#8217;t have to be a hit or strike, touching a cop will typically be considered a battery, a third degree felony with a maximum penalty of 5 years in prison and a $5,000 fine.  Touching, shoving, spitting and all that are battery.<br />
Yes, the laws are that fucked up.</p>
<p>So, by law and according to this video, the sleeper seems guilty of resisting arrest, assault and battery, before the cop attacks him, unprofessionally, as if this was a bar fight.<br />
Those are two different things.</p>
<p>Just my opinion, as someone that has probably amassed a century in possible prison time for not playing nice with uniformed authority, because they don&#8217;t.<br />
I&#8217;ve received all the beatings I can stand in this life when I was a child. I don&#8217;t let anyone hit me or others now that I&#8217;m big.<br />
The sleeper does.  The attached picture shows how he opens up, moving his arms behind him, giving the cop a clear shot at his face and throat, when the cop, n00blike, &#8220;announces&#8221; that he intends to hit him and even where he is aiming.<br />
The sleepers motions at the time immediately before he gets hit are equivalent to that of a puppy rolling over exposing his throat and belly.<br />
He doesn&#8217;t even fight back at all, he just really doesn&#8217;t want to get restrained and arrested.</p>
<p>Why are there so many cops?<br />
They would have needed them all for me.<br />
(Internet tuff guy-ish, I know, but I just happen to get a kick &#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Rucker</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/nypd-officers-beat-homeless-ma.html#comment-1564141</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Rucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better would be to force police departments to stop hiring unintelligent officers on purpose, due to smarter officers getting bored with the job.</description>
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		<title>By: Florian Bösch</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/nypd-officers-beat-homeless-ma.html#comment-1564125</link>
		<dc:creator>Florian Bösch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cops might have to take paid holidays at best. Such a dire punishment.</description>
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		<title>By: Ipo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/nypd-officers-beat-homeless-ma.html#comment-1564108</link>
		<dc:creator>Ipo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> In advance?  They are not earthquake scientists.  </description>
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		<title>By: Tynam</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/nypd-officers-beat-homeless-ma.html#comment-1564102</link>
		<dc:creator>Tynam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Police are a legalized gang in &lt;i&gt;every&lt;/i&gt; country; in a way they have to be to do their jobs.  The question is, does that gang have oversight that prevents it going too far?  Sadly, the answer is usually &quot;no&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Police are a legalized gang in <i>every</i> country; in a way they have to be to do their jobs.  The question is, does that gang have oversight that prevents it going too far?  Sadly, the answer is usually &#8220;no&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tynam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tynam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(reply to @margaretpoa, but the threading broke - sorry!)

One of the most corrosive effects of the Iraq war is that from the top level of civilian control down, the military was encouraged to let that standard slip.  It&#039;s poisonous damage that will take a *long* time to heal... if ever.

But AllenMcBride is right; it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;stupid&lt;/i&gt; to make this problem about soldiers.  Brutal and stupid cops have always existed; nothing to do with whether they&#039;re veterans or not.  The problem is that police are badly trained by a badly designed system and then allowed to be free of responsibility for their actions.  End of story.

(Although his argument that vets have run for president recently rather badly undermines his case...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(reply to @margaretpoa, but the threading broke &#8211; sorry!)</p>
<p>One of the most corrosive effects of the Iraq war is that from the top level of civilian control down, the military was encouraged to let that standard slip.  It&#8217;s poisonous damage that will take a *long* time to heal&#8230; if ever.</p>
<p>But AllenMcBride is right; it&#8217;s <i>stupid</i> to make this problem about soldiers.  Brutal and stupid cops have always existed; nothing to do with whether they&#8217;re veterans or not.  The problem is that police are badly trained by a badly designed system and then allowed to be free of responsibility for their actions.  End of story.</p>
<p>(Although his argument that vets have run for president recently rather badly undermines his case&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Behave like police officers?</description>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expect the police to be able to assess a situation?  Why that&#039;s madness!!!</description>
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