Children of tech executive slain in New York; nanny accused of murder and attempted suicide

Two of the three children of CNBC Digital senior vice president Kevin Krim and Marina Krim, a mom who maintained a blog about their family life, were apparently stabbed to death by their nanny last night in NYC.

Nanny Yoselyn Ortega (50) is accused of attacking Lulu (6) and Leo Krim (2), shown in the family photo at left; then trying to kill herself.

The details of how the mother (38) encountered her children are in the NYT story, CNN, and the tabloids. A third child was with Mrs. Krim when the attack happened at their home, and did not witness it.

From posts on the family blog [update: which is now offline] the nanny appears to have worked with the family for more than a year.

The Krim family visited Ms. Ortega's home and family in the Dominican Republic with her on a 9-day vacation this February.

The family LiveJournal contains thousands of photographs of the children, whose lives were chronicled there in loving detail by their mom. Marina Krim published an entry about her son just three hours before the attack.

Leo speaks in the most adorable way possible. Firstly, he speaks super clearly, so you can understand every word is he is saying. And he does things like, "(I) want a fresh bagel" and "Dito (what he calls himself) wants cold milk" and most adorable of all, "No thank you" - he never uses "No" alone, it's always paired with "thank you".

Overnight, the post filled with about a thousand comments from strangers who'd read the news.

Mr. Krim held positions formerly with Yahoo, Bloomberg, and LiveJournal. The family relocated from SF to NY 3 years ago.

He was flying home to his family from a business trip to San Francisco when the killings happened. He was met at the gate by police, who escorted him to the hospital where paramedics tried to revive his children.

It makes no sense.

The shock and horror of this news hit close to home for young, NYC-based professionals whose lifestyles require them to entrust their kids to the care of a helper sometimes, like the Krims did.

The Krim family are known and loved by various Boing Boing readers who work in the technology industry in New York and San Francisco, some of whom pinged me when this story broke last night.

Tweets from some friends of the family, below.


    1. Looking at the google cache… they all seem so cute and happy.

      I had no idea who these people were, or that they existed, and now I just feel terribly sad for them.

  1. I can’t imagine what this family is going through.  I hope they find peace and comfort eventually.

  2. Um, something is terribly wrong with the comment system… There seem to be some completely unrelated comments making this look like a joke. This is very-very sad. What is the world coming to. Too many innocent kids killed by nut-jobs lately.

  3. What a horrible, senseless tragedy.  My heart goes out to them.  There’s no way they could have known.

  4. Well, my Friday is completely tainted now. WHY do people bring children into it when they decide to off themselves? Well, off to a meeting about software UI! And as I talk about how the new design will result in thousands fewer clicks all I will be able to think about are those dead kids. Gettin’ drunk tonight. 

    1. We don’t know what happened. Some times when people have that kind of breakdown they are not thinking about killing themselves the way you or I might. They may have acted out of psychosis then realized what they did. They may have had a lot of things go on that prompt it. It’s really just a horrible tragedy. Horrible tragedies often just have nothing but misfortune all around.

      The thing that makes me sad is that there appears to have been no warning, nothing to give a clue to the family to get their children away. And that is so tragic. My heart really goes out to them for the suffering they must feel. And frankly, my heart goes out to Ortega’s family who must also be deeply pained and ashamed.

  5. Please update the headline for this entry with “TRIGGER WARNING”, preferably in six-inch high flashing letters.  Sweet Jesus Christ…

    1. I have a little sticker on the inside of my glasses that just applies it to everything. No fuss, no muss. 

    2. Or perhaps you could exercise a little individual responsibility over what you read online? The headline is warning enough – surely there was enough information there for you to exercise mature judgment over reading on?  A quite absurd degree of pandering being requested here – take ownership of your online reading experience and man up.

  6. @John Fleming – isn’t the heading of the post warning enough? I mean, this breaks my heart and ruins my day too, but bad stuff happens. People talk about that bad stuff. 

    1. Trigger warnings aren’t just for “ruined days”, they’re for people who can get thrown into what is essentially a PTSD-type flash-back due to certain ‘triggers’ (hence the name).

      1. It is not our custom here at Boing Boing to try and guess what content will be a trigger for people who have PTSD, and label anything that doesn’t involve a happy topic “trigger warning.” 
        Descriptive but not overly-gory headlines that let readers know what to expect in a given story are what we tend to do. If this headline failed to do that for you, I’m not sure what headline would have been better.

        1. I guess I was reacting to Cory’s earlier post with this title: “NYPD officer planned to kill and eat women [trigger warning]”.  My immediate reaction was to wonder why that post had a warning and yours didn’t.  However, I understand that BB is not a monolithic entity, and each individual contributor makes his or her own decisions. You are right, of course: each headline was in itself enough of a warning to avoid the article if one is sensitive.

          1. Oh, yeah. I didn’t author that post. I don’t mean to sound defensive; maybe I’ll reconsider adding that next time. I think it’s good for us to be consistent, and I can see your point.

          2. Did the article you cite really need a trigger warning? Surely the title is self-explanatory and the trigger warning entirely redundant. Any responsible reader surely has the wit to steer clear of  articles with such overtly stated titles. They alone can know what their triggers are – individuals need to take more responsibility for themselves and expect others to nanny them a little less. 

  7. Her little boy resembles mine and I can’t imagine the pain she must be going through. The fact that she still has one child alive is probably the only thing that’s preventing her from taking  her own life. This is pain on a level that is almost unsurvivable. May God and everyone else in your life sustain you at this most terrible time poor dear Mrs. Krim.

  8. “This comment has now been deleted twice off of BoingBoing. The first posting was at 2012-10-26 at 10.37.25 AM. The second was at 2012-10-26 at 11.06.55 AM. Here it is a third time.”

    do what you want buddy, but here’s a little tip for you: if you try to pick a fight with the mods, you’ll lose every time.

    1. I also have 2 kids right at those ages. It’s pretty horrible I agree – they looked like such beautiful children.

      Maybe instead of letting this story get us down, we can use it as an opportunity to remind us to value the loved ones in our lives for every day we have them?

    2. I have only one, in between the ages of yours.  If anything ever happened to him I would be undone.

      I have no idea how the Krims are able to cope right now.  My heart goes out to them all.

  9. It’s a big world, which inevitably means that some of the things in it are horrible.

    I didn’t need to know about this one.

    1.  But there is an upside, for us, which is to keep us mindful of how fragile so many of the things we hold to be precious. 

      We hear about war and strife in faraway lands, among people who may seem to live very different lives than us.  Of course we know that terrible things are happening in the world.  But to hear that people who live close by (to some of us — I grew up in their neighborhood), who have similar interests, and really appear protected by their success from so many of the buffets that life deals out — to realize that something so dreadful can strike them, for no real reason, has a different emotional impact. 

      I cannot imagine what they are going through now, and how they will feel for the rest of their lives.  But I can remember to appreciate the people I love, who I have in my life, today.

  10. I wish this hadn’t been posted on BoingBoing. I had already read it in various headlines and felt sick enough. It’s one of those things that leaves the reader feeling helpless, it’s like stepping into a void. Seeing those little guys and know the truth of the end of their lives hurts me. It would be one thing if there were a way to rally and prevent any future such madness but there isn’t anything to do here.
    Perhaps as a countermeasure to this BoingBoing could post something where we as readers could at contribute something to make life better for kids. Is there an adoption that needs funding somewhere? A kid who needs surgery or some opportunity we could contribute to. Perhaps we could give to others as a tribute to these little lost souls. 

    1. Well, I did post a dog video.

      I’ll continue to follow the story, and if something like that ends up being created by the family, I’ll note it here. But what you suggest here is more about making us, the onlookers, feel better about things. Maybe what’s more honest is for us to just observe and recognize that there’s no fix or antidote to something that awful. Just witnessing it and recognizing the horror, rather than trying to tie it up with a happy ending. There is no happy ending in this story today.

    2. “I wish this hadn’t been posted on BoingBoing.”  Umm…so don’t click the link? Take responsibility for what you read.  Come on, you’re a grown up.

      The job of a news site is to report and observe, hopefully objectively, not to make their readership feel better. If individuals feel prompted by this story to donate to charity (eg then that is their own responsibility – a quick Google search will reveal lots of charities requiring funding if that’s what you feel moved to do – it’s not the job of the news provider to meet your emotional needs. Whilst your idea is well intentioned, we are responsible for our own actions – including what we read and what action that provokes in our own lives.

  11. Its awesome wasting time replying to some self-righteous ass only to have their comment removed and yours as well…

    Let him publicly brag that he and his wife have enough money that she can stay home and protect their children… I was looking forward to countering it with “most kids are killed by a parent” and “yeah you are so brilliant, I bet you can tell that your wife will never snap… just by looking at her” cause thats how the world really works.

  12. Ouch. When this kind of awful happens, I think I do want to know about it, and not from talking heads in suits either. And yeah, it’s a fine line between grief and gossip sometimes, and it’s not always about being made comfortable.

     There’s a lot more out there I can’t seem to do anything about, that makes my soul itch. But it’s important to know the score. Good Guys lost some ground today. I’m still trying to make that team.

  13. I misread the first paragraph that the 2 kids AND the mom were killed — the sentence and its punctuation is a bit ambiguous. Sorry about your loss. I’ve got kids, too, and the thought is unthinkable.

    Once we get a cure for cancer, the next thing is a cure for mental illnesses.

  14. I do wonder why the third child was spared and how it will be for that child growing up with pictures and aftermath.

    1. Because she wasn’t home. The third (middle) middle child was at a swimming lesson with her mother.

      Tragic, I can’t imagine the pain. It’s painful just knowing this happened.

  15. I understand that stories like this are tech-related, and so relevant to BoingBoing’s readership. I also understand that BB has no strict editorial policy, and each editor posts whatever articles he or she thinks are interesting. But still, I have to ask: how is this “wonderful”? What is the point of choosing this story, and the previous one about the cannibal cop, other than for gruesome shock value? This isn’t even like, for example, the Trayvon Martin shooting, where interesting issues of race and firearms rights were raised. This just seems like digital rubbernecking of a horrible, horrible tragedy, and I think less of BB for posting it. That being said, I’m open to the possibility that there is some angle here that I’m missing, and if anybody wants to convince me that there is merit in sharing these stories, I’m open.

    1. We are no longer a Directory of Wonderful Things; we are now One Big Inbred Fuckfest. Do try to read the policy memos when they come out.

    2. Perhaps you didn’t read the blog post in entirety. If you did, you’d have read parts where I pointed out the fact that the father was a well-known technology industry executive who worked in a number of digital media companies. He, his wife, and his children are known and loved by many other tech biz folks who are part of our extended community of friends and  contemporaries. 

      The comment thread you commented in also contains comments from people who know/knew the father and his family.

      When the story is connected to your community that directly, it’s relevant to your blog.

  16. What gets me about stories like this, from the Colorado shooting on down, is that the only useful thing I can imagine taking from it (other than the usual, life is precious, be glad you haven’t been slain today) would be any possible answers to questions like, WHY DID THIS HAPPEN? and perhaps more to the point HOW COULD IT BE STOPPED FROM HAPPENING AGAIN? And of course, I don’t expect there are any such answers at all, once again. It… it just sucks, just plain, nothing but sucks.

    I think I shall also be getting drunk tonight. Though there’s not much of tonight left.

  17. So if I have enough money and power, the police will pick me up at the airport and escort me to the hospital like a taxi service at the tax payers expense? 

    Seems logical. 

    Would this occur for someone who makes less than 90k a year? Probably not.

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