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		<title>By: Ian Osmond</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/30/why-do-electric-transformers-e.html#comment-1570124</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Osmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess would be simply the smaller distances involved in Europe.  I bet our electrical grids are just simply physically larger, leading to many more points of potential failure.</description>
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		<title>By: Ian Osmond</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/30/why-do-electric-transformers-e.html#comment-1570121</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Osmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, neither analogy is completely accurate, since analogies never are, so, whatever analogy helps people understand the situation at hand is useful.

The &quot;pressure&quot; analogy is probably more useful more often, but this analogy seems sufficient for this model.  Models are not reality, voltage is not pressure -- voltage is LIKE pressure, and voltage is LIKE pressure in more ways than voltage is like depth, but, in THIS explanation, &quot;depth&quot; is sufficient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, neither analogy is completely accurate, since analogies never are, so, whatever analogy helps people understand the situation at hand is useful.</p>
<p>The &#8220;pressure&#8221; analogy is probably more useful more often, but this analogy seems sufficient for this model.  Models are not reality, voltage is not pressure &#8212; voltage is LIKE pressure, and voltage is LIKE pressure in more ways than voltage is like depth, but, in THIS explanation, &#8220;depth&#8221; is sufficient.</p>
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		<title>By: Culturedropout</title>
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		<dc:creator>Culturedropout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 04:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sticking with my original theory which involves angry elementals.  Much simpler. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sticking with my original theory which involves angry elementals.  Much simpler. </p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Gunnoe</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/10/30/why-do-electric-transformers-e.html#comment-1569716</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Gunnoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 03:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.. There really IS more than meets they eye.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.. There really IS more than meets they eye.  </p>
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		<title>By: Mike Crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 02:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a pressurized river, but water pressure in a hose that the analogy holds for; and that one is a bit more accurate for the physics of what happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a pressurized river, but water pressure in a hose that the analogy holds for; and that one is a bit more accurate for the physics of what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbeaux</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimbeaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer_oil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer_oil</p>
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		<title>By: Repurposed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Repurposed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 23:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Megatron. </description>
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		<title>By: gibbon1</title>
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		<dc:creator>gibbon1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 23:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh!  Reading everything I think more dark than light is spread about.

First off: The oil in transformers is used to insulate the high voltage coils (they&#039;re just bare wire) and cool them by conducting heat to the metal case via convection.  They used to use Polychlorinated biphenyl PCB&#039;s because they are relatively flame resistant and a good insulator.  Trouble is some PCBs are horribly toxic.  So now they use other somewhat more expensive stuff.

Second: Line Transformers all have a thermal circuit breaker and a fusible link to protect the transformer if it&#039;s over loaded (drawing too much current).  If you short the secondary side of the transformer or there is a phat short circuit inside then the breaker trips, failing that hopefully the fusible link melts.  Lot of outages are due to breakers tripping.  In which case the lineman climbs the pole and resets the thing and suddenly you have access to p0rn again.

Third: What happens when a transformer blows up is a arc caused by a voltage surge, age, whatever, etc between a set of coils.  In that case the magnetic field induces massive current through the shorted coils.  They heat and they melt, the oil inside carbonizes and no longer insulates.  It&#039;s possible for this to go on for a long while as power is dumped inside the transformer via arcing* instead of being transferred through it. As long as the amount of current being drawn isn&#039;t too much the breaker won&#039;t trip.

*If you&#039;ve ever seen an arc welder in action, that&#039;s what&#039;s going on.

Forth: Circuit Breakers.  They all have a minimum current at which they will trip.  and a maximum current that they can interrupt.  Higher than that and they usually fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh!  Reading everything I think more dark than light is spread about.</p>
<p>First off: The oil in transformers is used to insulate the high voltage coils (they&#8217;re just bare wire) and cool them by conducting heat to the metal case via convection.  They used to use Polychlorinated biphenyl PCB&#8217;s because they are relatively flame resistant and a good insulator.  Trouble is some PCBs are horribly toxic.  So now they use other somewhat more expensive stuff.</p>
<p>Second: Line Transformers all have a thermal circuit breaker and a fusible link to protect the transformer if it&#8217;s over loaded (drawing too much current).  If you short the secondary side of the transformer or there is a phat short circuit inside then the breaker trips, failing that hopefully the fusible link melts.  Lot of outages are due to breakers tripping.  In which case the lineman climbs the pole and resets the thing and suddenly you have access to p0rn again.</p>
<p>Third: What happens when a transformer blows up is a arc caused by a voltage surge, age, whatever, etc between a set of coils.  In that case the magnetic field induces massive current through the shorted coils.  They heat and they melt, the oil inside carbonizes and no longer insulates.  It&#8217;s possible for this to go on for a long while as power is dumped inside the transformer via arcing* instead of being transferred through it. As long as the amount of current being drawn isn&#8217;t too much the breaker won&#8217;t trip.</p>
<p>*If you&#8217;ve ever seen an arc welder in action, that&#8217;s what&#8217;s going on.</p>
<p>Forth: Circuit Breakers.  They all have a minimum current at which they will trip.  and a maximum current that they can interrupt.  Higher than that and they usually fail.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Dow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Dow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 23:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A hydraulic ram is another example of a mechanical transformer, transforming high pressure low flowrate to low pressure high flowrate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_ram</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A hydraulic ram is another example of a mechanical transformer, transforming high pressure low flowrate to low pressure high flowrate.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_ram" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_ram</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roy Trumbull</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Trumbull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The distribution voltage is high to reduce current. Loss is a function of current squared. Normally that voltage stays within a certain range and your local transformer provides a split phase output of 120/240. The lower for house outlets and the higher for stoves and water heaters etc.. If enough street load is lost while your circuit remains hot there can be a sudden surge. The pole transformers are often run beyond their ratings. The can is usually painted gray but parts of it will look reddish from continuous overheating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The distribution voltage is high to reduce current. Loss is a function of current squared. Normally that voltage stays within a certain range and your local transformer provides a split phase output of 120/240. The lower for house outlets and the higher for stoves and water heaters etc.. If enough street load is lost while your circuit remains hot there can be a sudden surge. The pole transformers are often run beyond their ratings. The can is usually painted gray but parts of it will look reddish from continuous overheating.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Renault</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Renault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see if I remember the terminology from high school chemistry:  The oil needs a minimum energy to ignite - which is temperature.  Recall the ignition temperature of paper, from Bradbury&#039;s book.

The melting point of pure copper is 1,095 degC (or 1,981 degF for those people still living in the Pleistocene Era).   

If the current is high enough to melt the transformer&#039;s windings/wiring - the molten/vaporized copper will ignite the oil that touches it - assuming that the ignition point of oil is less than 1,095 degC, which is definitely the case.  

The now-ignited oil will burn at a higher-than-its-ignition-point temperature.  This will cause the oil molecules right next to the copper-touching oil, to ignite.  Rinse, repeat.  

This ignited (as in &#039;small-explosion&#039;) oil will cause the rest of the oil be turned into a mist.  This increases the surface area of the oil exposed to oxygen, increasing the rate of reaction - Kaboom!

If you check the video, you can see the explosion happens in a few phases.

The colour of the light given off by the chemical reaction / explosion tells you what temperatures are achieved - the blue part of the flame in your propane torch is somewhere around 3,000 degK.  That substation very likely achieved much higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see if I remember the terminology from high school chemistry:  The oil needs a minimum energy to ignite &#8211; which is temperature.  Recall the ignition temperature of paper, from Bradbury&#8217;s book.</p>
<p>The melting point of pure copper is 1,095 degC (or 1,981 degF for those people still living in the Pleistocene Era).   </p>
<p>If the current is high enough to melt the transformer&#8217;s windings/wiring &#8211; the molten/vaporized copper will ignite the oil that touches it &#8211; assuming that the ignition point of oil is less than 1,095 degC, which is definitely the case.  </p>
<p>The now-ignited oil will burn at a higher-than-its-ignition-point temperature.  This will cause the oil molecules right next to the copper-touching oil, to ignite.  Rinse, repeat.  </p>
<p>This ignited (as in &#8216;small-explosion&#8217;) oil will cause the rest of the oil be turned into a mist.  This increases the surface area of the oil exposed to oxygen, increasing the rate of reaction &#8211; Kaboom!</p>
<p>If you check the video, you can see the explosion happens in a few phases.</p>
<p>The colour of the light given off by the chemical reaction / explosion tells you what temperatures are achieved &#8211; the blue part of the flame in your propane torch is somewhere around 3,000 degK.  That substation very likely achieved much higher.</p>
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		<title>By: acerplatanoides</title>
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		<dc:creator>acerplatanoides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Perhaps a penchant for a lot of air conditioning at certain times of year?</description>
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		<title>By: acerplatanoides</title>
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		<dc:creator>acerplatanoides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> They fill it with the non-conducting fluid &#039;least-likely&#039; to combust. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> They fill it with the non-conducting fluid &#8216;least-likely&#8217; to combust. </p>
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		<title>By: Jürgen Starek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jürgen Starek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get the impression that these explosions happen far more often in the US and southern / central America than in Europe. This can be deducted from highly accurate subjective observations of Youtube posting frequencies.

Jokes aside, is this really just a skewed world view or are European installations less likely to fail so spectacularly? If so, what is different in the European and American transformer and fuse designs? This would probably make a very informative comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get the impression that these explosions happen far more often in the US and southern / central America than in Europe. This can be deducted from highly accurate subjective observations of Youtube posting frequencies.</p>
<p>Jokes aside, is this really just a skewed world view or are European installations less likely to fail so spectacularly? If so, what is different in the European and American transformer and fuse designs? This would probably make a very informative comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No analogy is ever going to be perfect. I invariably find that every analogy breaks down at some point, so it will always be a trade-off between the educational value and the accuracy. Ultimately, I try to use the analogy as a crutch - it gets the mindset headed in the right direction, but it will need to be discarded as one approaches a complete understanding of the topic or technology at hand.

I would suggest, however, that there are good transformer analogies if look at air powered gas booster pumps -- http://www.hydratron.co.uk/media/html/gas_pumps.htm -- or air amplifiers -- http://sprague.cwfc.com/Products/spokes/Amplifiers.htm

In each case, these convert one pressure/volume to another pressure/volume in part by trading off one for the other. In the case of the gas booster pumps, it does it without actually connecting the &quot;primary&quot; gas supply with the &quot;secondary&quot; boosted gas. There is still a mechanical connection, but there is no connection of the &quot;working fluid&quot; on each side of the device, in much the same way that a properly operating transformer does not create regular electrical connections between the primary and secondary windings.

The transformer does not create a mechanical connection, true. But this is an analogy, and the gas booster pumps don&#039;t create a magnetic connection because they don&#039;t work in the electromagnetic domain. I will note that most transformers do not have an active mechanical connection, but they do have some form of mechanical structure to ensure they are correctly constructed and aligned.

The step-down side exists as well. The mixing version (an impure analogy, I agree) would be the Dyson ring fans, or a locomotive stack blower (had to look that one up), both a form of venturi blower. There are simple fan blowers than use high-pressure air jets to power the spinning blades. If you want the non-mixing aspects, then there air motor powered blowers -- the blower discharge is separate from the air motor discharge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No analogy is ever going to be perfect. I invariably find that every analogy breaks down at some point, so it will always be a trade-off between the educational value and the accuracy. Ultimately, I try to use the analogy as a crutch &#8211; it gets the mindset headed in the right direction, but it will need to be discarded as one approaches a complete understanding of the topic or technology at hand.</p>
<p>I would suggest, however, that there are good transformer analogies if look at air powered gas booster pumps &#8212; <a href="http://www.hydratron.co.uk/media/html/gas_pumps.htm --" rel="nofollow">http://www.hydratron.co.uk/media/html/gas_pumps.htm &#8211;</a> or air amplifiers &#8212; <a href="http://sprague.cwfc.com/Products/spokes/Amplifiers.htm" rel="nofollow">http://sprague.cwfc.com/Products/spokes/Amplifiers.htm</a></p>
<p>In each case, these convert one pressure/volume to another pressure/volume in part by trading off one for the other. In the case of the gas booster pumps, it does it without actually connecting the &#8220;primary&#8221; gas supply with the &#8220;secondary&#8221; boosted gas. There is still a mechanical connection, but there is no connection of the &#8220;working fluid&#8221; on each side of the device, in much the same way that a properly operating transformer does not create regular electrical connections between the primary and secondary windings.</p>
<p>The transformer does not create a mechanical connection, true. But this is an analogy, and the gas booster pumps don&#8217;t create a magnetic connection because they don&#8217;t work in the electromagnetic domain. I will note that most transformers do not have an active mechanical connection, but they do have some form of mechanical structure to ensure they are correctly constructed and aligned.</p>
<p>The step-down side exists as well. The mixing version (an impure analogy, I agree) would be the Dyson ring fans, or a locomotive stack blower (had to look that one up), both a form of venturi blower. There are simple fan blowers than use high-pressure air jets to power the spinning blades. If you want the non-mixing aspects, then there air motor powered blowers &#8212; the blower discharge is separate from the air motor discharge.</p>
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		<title>By: jandrese</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because the ones that didn&#039;t combust turned out to cause cancer or hurt endangered species when they leaked.</description>
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		<title>By: bzishi</title>
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		<dc:creator>bzishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A gearbox still requires mechanical connection between the gears, while a transformer does not require electrical connection between the primary and secondary coils. Really, the best analogy that I know of is a torque converter. But since a torque converter is a far more complicated device to explain than a transformer, it is sort of a wasted analogy. Also, most people want to continue using the differential pressure or head equals voltage and flow equals current analogy, which requires more complicated mechanical components. The explanation of a transformer itself is easier than building these more and more complex analogies. And if you are clever during your description of a transformer and don&#039;t analogize it, it is an easy segue to synchronous motors and generators (let the primary be the field and the secondary be the stator and let the movement of the rotor take care of the changing magnetic field)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A gearbox still requires mechanical connection between the gears, while a transformer does not require electrical connection between the primary and secondary coils. Really, the best analogy that I know of is a torque converter. But since a torque converter is a far more complicated device to explain than a transformer, it is sort of a wasted analogy. Also, most people want to continue using the differential pressure or head equals voltage and flow equals current analogy, which requires more complicated mechanical components. The explanation of a transformer itself is easier than building these more and more complex analogies. And if you are clever during your description of a transformer and don&#8217;t analogize it, it is an easy segue to synchronous motors and generators (let the primary be the field and the secondary be the stator and let the movement of the rotor take care of the changing magnetic field)!</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Root</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Root</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do they fill the transformer with a fluid that has the potential to combust on these conditions?</description>
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		<title>By: bzishi</title>
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		<dc:creator>bzishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The blue would be high voltage electrical arcing. Much of it would also be UV (like arc welding).</description>
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		<title>By: Seb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A gear box is a good analogy for a transformer. Converting high voltage low current (high rpm low torque) to higher current lower voltage (higher torque lower rpm).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A gear box is a good analogy for a transformer. Converting high voltage low current (high rpm low torque) to higher current lower voltage (higher torque lower rpm).</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Yes, some analogies break down worse than others.  Good point.</description>
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		<title>By: Hymenopterid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hymenopterid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The important thing to understand here is that we&#039;re dealing with a series of tubes.</description>
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		<title>By: bzishi</title>
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		<dc:creator>bzishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Electric transformers explode due to overcurrent conditions. If the coils heat up too much &lt;b&gt;or&lt;/b&gt; &lt;strike&gt;and&lt;/strike&gt; there are hot spots, acetylene will be produced from the transformer oil. The oil will also expand rupturing the case at which time the acetylene explodes and the transformer oil ignites. For this reason, very large transformers have monitoring and protective functions which will trip off circuit breakers that supply the transformers due to faults. In the event that your protective feature fails, or breakers fail to isolate the transformer then you are in big trouble.

There are a couple of things that bother me about this post. You said &lt;blockquote&gt;Electricity has to flow along it from the power plant, to the customers, and back around to the power plant again.&lt;/blockquote&gt;This isn&#039;t correct. This may seem to be correct if you were talking about a 1 phase grounded system, but it doesn&#039;t apply to 3 phase ungrounded systems that power plants use. And considering that there will be transformers that will electrically isolate and convert from 3 phase ungrounded to 1 phase grounded, it can&#039;t be true.

Second, your mechanical transformer analogy doesn&#039;t work. It implies that there is an electrical connection between the coils. That is not true, the connection is through magnetic flux. And it doesn&#039;t explain that the power input is almost equal to the power output. I&#039;ve worked in electrical generation for many years. There is no decent mechanical analogy for a transformer that I have heard. Trying to make one work will only confuse people about the key characteristics of a transformer which include electrical isolation and near conservation of power.

Edit: I meant to say &quot;or there are hot spots&quot;. Most transformers explode due to old age under nominal conditions when hot spots (part of the coil that has heated up far beyond normal due to degradation) produce too much acetylene. Another option which doesn&#039;t occur often is the build up of static charge due to the movement of the transformer oil. One interesting potential failure mode (which would be taken care of due to protective features) is an overcurrent condition caused by solar storms on transformers with a neutral ground. Power plants sometimes have to limit output during solar disturbances due to this additional current.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electric transformers explode due to overcurrent conditions. If the coils heat up too much <b>or</b> <strike>and</strike> there are hot spots, acetylene will be produced from the transformer oil. The oil will also expand rupturing the case at which time the acetylene explodes and the transformer oil ignites. For this reason, very large transformers have monitoring and protective functions which will trip off circuit breakers that supply the transformers due to faults. In the event that your protective feature fails, or breakers fail to isolate the transformer then you are in big trouble.</p>
<p>There are a couple of things that bother me about this post. You said<br />
<blockquote>Electricity has to flow along it from the power plant, to the customers, and back around to the power plant again.</p></blockquote>
<p>This isn&#8217;t correct. This may seem to be correct if you were talking about a 1 phase grounded system, but it doesn&#8217;t apply to 3 phase ungrounded systems that power plants use. And considering that there will be transformers that will electrically isolate and convert from 3 phase ungrounded to 1 phase grounded, it can&#8217;t be true.</p>
<p>Second, your mechanical transformer analogy doesn&#8217;t work. It implies that there is an electrical connection between the coils. That is not true, the connection is through magnetic flux. And it doesn&#8217;t explain that the power input is almost equal to the power output. I&#8217;ve worked in electrical generation for many years. There is no decent mechanical analogy for a transformer that I have heard. Trying to make one work will only confuse people about the key characteristics of a transformer which include electrical isolation and near conservation of power.</p>
<p>Edit: I meant to say &#8220;or there are hot spots&#8221;. Most transformers explode due to old age under nominal conditions when hot spots (part of the coil that has heated up far beyond normal due to degradation) produce too much acetylene. Another option which doesn&#8217;t occur often is the build up of static charge due to the movement of the transformer oil. One interesting potential failure mode (which would be taken care of due to protective features) is an overcurrent condition caused by solar storms on transformers with a neutral ground. Power plants sometimes have to limit output during solar disturbances due to this additional current.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Dow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Dow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got it, thanks. Where does most of the energy come from, electrical resistance heating (arcing) or decomposition of the oil? If it&#039;s the oil, why is the color of the explosion toward blue?</description>
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		<title>By: Megan Anders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan Anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the explanation!!</description>
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		<title>By: bcsizemo</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really in terms of physical things like water, I&#039;d think the best correlation would be voltage to flow rate (or pressure) and current to volume.

Why a transformer fails really involves what is causing it to be overloaded.  If it is a faulty disconnect circuit then the transformer simply has to deal with excess power input or draw leading to heat and breakdown of the mineral oil.  If it is from an external source of power input, like lightening, then it is very possible that the internal wiring becomes shorted and destroys everything by simply becoming the faulty part and drawing excess power.  (Of course the same thing can happen if a high enough voltage becomes present on the lines going to the transformer.)

The pretty blue arc isn&#039;t the transformer itself failing, as much as it is the excess voltage arcing between the conductors.  (Voltage that the safety system should have disconnected.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really in terms of physical things like water, I&#8217;d think the best correlation would be voltage to flow rate (or pressure) and current to volume.</p>
<p>Why a transformer fails really involves what is causing it to be overloaded.  If it is a faulty disconnect circuit then the transformer simply has to deal with excess power input or draw leading to heat and breakdown of the mineral oil.  If it is from an external source of power input, like lightening, then it is very possible that the internal wiring becomes shorted and destroys everything by simply becoming the faulty part and drawing excess power.  (Of course the same thing can happen if a high enough voltage becomes present on the lines going to the transformer.)</p>
<p>The pretty blue arc isn&#8217;t the transformer itself failing, as much as it is the excess voltage arcing between the conductors.  (Voltage that the safety system should have disconnected.)</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Best to keep in mind that these are just analogies.  The same phenomenon can admit multiple analogies some of which might be better suited to some purposes than others but all of them break down at some level of analysis.  Whether the &quot;correct&quot; analogy is &quot;voltage as pressure&quot; or &quot;voltage as depth&quot; depends on the context.

Maggie&#039;s been consistent about &quot;voltage as depth&quot; and the consistency is probably more important from a science journalism point of view than any nitty-gritty details about why physics profs like to use the pressure analogy instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Best to keep in mind that these are just analogies.  The same phenomenon can admit multiple analogies some of which might be better suited to some purposes than others but all of them break down at some level of analysis.  Whether the &#8220;correct&#8221; analogy is &#8220;voltage as pressure&#8221; or &#8220;voltage as depth&#8221; depends on the context.</p>
<p>Maggie&#8217;s been consistent about &#8220;voltage as depth&#8221; and the consistency is probably more important from a science journalism point of view than any nitty-gritty details about why physics profs like to use the pressure analogy instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Renault</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Renault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 17:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a substation is, say, flooded (or has salt spray from the sea, from the winter salting of roads, or even an errant squirrel), the secondary windings (that&#039;d be the non-power-plant end of the transformer) are connected to ground.  The near-zero resistance to ground, means near-infinite current.  The circuits/fuses/disconnectors at the substation are &lt;i&gt;supposed&lt;/i&gt; to disconnect the transformer before it&#039;s damaged, but sometimes not in time.

Current (or amperage) is what melts fuses.  So, when the ultra-high current surge (equivalent to volume-flow of water) is high and fast enough, it melts the transformers&#039; wiring, or even vaporizes them.  

Big substation transformers are usually cooled by oil - as in &quot;the transformer is sitting in an oil bath&quot;.  Molten/vaporized metal meets oil...the oil explodes.  Usually in a very spectacular fashion.

Because I know you&#039;re asking: If the power-plant-end is connected to ground, it&#039;s the power plant and transmission lines which are connected to ground.  These can &#039;usually&#039; survive the trauma, since amperage is lower (y&#039;know, &#039;cuz the voltage is much higher).  In really bad freezing rain conditions, grounding the power transmission lines is a method used to melt ice off of the lines - and is a procedure that would be performed at a substation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a substation is, say, flooded (or has salt spray from the sea, from the winter salting of roads, or even an errant squirrel), the secondary windings (that&#8217;d be the non-power-plant end of the transformer) are connected to ground.  The near-zero resistance to ground, means near-infinite current.  The circuits/fuses/disconnectors at the substation are <i>supposed</i> to disconnect the transformer before it&#8217;s damaged, but sometimes not in time.</p>
<p>Current (or amperage) is what melts fuses.  So, when the ultra-high current surge (equivalent to volume-flow of water) is high and fast enough, it melts the transformers&#8217; wiring, or even vaporizes them.  </p>
<p>Big substation transformers are usually cooled by oil &#8211; as in &#8220;the transformer is sitting in an oil bath&#8221;.  Molten/vaporized metal meets oil&#8230;the oil explodes.  Usually in a very spectacular fashion.</p>
<p>Because I know you&#8217;re asking: If the power-plant-end is connected to ground, it&#8217;s the power plant and transmission lines which are connected to ground.  These can &#8216;usually&#8217; survive the trauma, since amperage is lower (y&#8217;know, &#8216;cuz the voltage is much higher).  In really bad freezing rain conditions, grounding the power transmission lines is a method used to melt ice off of the lines &#8211; and is a procedure that would be performed at a substation.</p>
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		<title>By: Sagodjur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sagodjur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why do electric transformers explode?&quot;

Why, for our YouTube entertainment of course! You mean those things actually do something else?
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<p>Why, for our YouTube entertainment of course! You mean those things actually do something else?</p>
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		<title>By: Max Allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 17:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And when was the last time you saw a pressurised river?
What happens at greater depth, how does the pressure change? 

I think depth is a reasonable part of the rivers analogy.</description>
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What happens at greater depth, how does the pressure change? </p>
<p>I think depth is a reasonable part of the rivers analogy.</p>
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