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	<title>Comments on: End software patent wars by making it always legal to run code on a general-purpose computer - Richard&#160;Stallman</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Kirk</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/02/end-software-patent-wars-by-ma.html#comment-1573427</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 18:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan Turing described a universal calculating engine which could solve any solvable problem given enough time, electricity, and memory tape. This machine was probably not in itself patentable because of prior art from Babbage, Lovelace and others; but it does anticipate all possible programs, and so should serve as prior art for them all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan Turing described a universal calculating engine which could solve any solvable problem given enough time, electricity, and memory tape. This machine was probably not in itself patentable because of prior art from Babbage, Lovelace and others; but it does anticipate all possible programs, and so should serve as prior art for them all.</p>
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		<title>By: pjcamp</title>
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		<dc:creator>pjcamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 05:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would have a pretty interesting effect on Apple. Since their world is curated, they are arguably not general purpose computers. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would have a pretty interesting effect on Apple. Since their world is curated, they are arguably not general purpose computers. </p>
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		<title>By: robcat2075</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/02/end-software-patent-wars-by-ma.html#comment-1572896</link>
		<dc:creator>robcat2075</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 00:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a concept in copyright law already, &quot;mechanical rights&quot;, that allow you to record a new performance of any song that has already been recorded by the original artist, with only the payment of a standard fee, and not needing to negotiate permission.

That idea could be expanded to trivial software patents.  That would eliminate court cases except perhaps in cases of actual non-payment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a concept in copyright law already, &#8220;mechanical rights&#8221;, that allow you to record a new performance of any song that has already been recorded by the original artist, with only the payment of a standard fee, and not needing to negotiate permission.</p>
<p>That idea could be expanded to trivial software patents.  That would eliminate court cases except perhaps in cases of actual non-payment.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulDavisTheFirst</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulDavisTheFirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 18:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amazon is not centrally focused on creating, patenting, and licensing software, though it has done all 3 on occasion.

in addition, its not just stallman. any BB reader knows that there are a variety of tech companies starting to speak out about software patents are negatively impacting their business plans and prospects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amazon is not centrally focused on creating, patenting, and licensing software, though it has done all 3 on occasion.</p>
<p>in addition, its not just stallman. any BB reader knows that there are a variety of tech companies starting to speak out about software patents are negatively impacting their business plans and prospects.</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/02/end-software-patent-wars-by-ma.html#comment-1572553</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 18:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing, Mr. Ballmer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing, Mr. Ballmer.</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/02/end-software-patent-wars-by-ma.html#comment-1572550</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 18:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Hippocratic Oath vs Iron Law of Institutions Deathmatch:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_institutions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hippocratic Oath vs Iron Law of Institutions Deathmatch:</p>
<p><a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_institutions" rel="nofollow">http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_institutions</a></p>
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		<title>By: robcat2075</title>
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		<dc:creator>robcat2075</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 17:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps a better idea would be to reform the patent-granting process so that patents for trivial notions are either not awarded or limited as to what they can pursue for licensing.  Much in the same way that there are limits on punitive damages for medical malpractice in some states.

That would make more sense than invalidating the whole notion of patents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps a better idea would be to reform the patent-granting process so that patents for trivial notions are either not awarded or limited as to what they can pursue for licensing.  Much in the same way that there are limits on punitive damages for medical malpractice in some states.</p>
<p>That would make more sense than invalidating the whole notion of patents.</p>
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		<title>By: Florian Bösch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Florian Bösch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A general purpose computer is quite easy to &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_completeness&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;define&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A general purpose computer is quite easy to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_completeness" rel="nofollow">define</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: lorq</title>
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		<dc:creator>lorq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of relevance...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of relevance&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Magnus Redin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magnus Redin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making all that costly corporate bueraucracy irrelevant and making tens of thousands of skilled lawyers, economists, MBA:s etc and square miles of office space avaliable for new jobs would be a major efficiency boost for the economie! It is almost as good as automation  is for the physical production, market economie for humanities win!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making all that costly corporate bueraucracy irrelevant and making tens of thousands of skilled lawyers, economists, MBA:s etc and square miles of office space avaliable for new jobs would be a major efficiency boost for the economie! It is almost as good as automation  is for the physical production, market economie for humanities win!</p>
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		<title>By: qwerty</title>
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		<dc:creator>qwerty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, this is not going to happen.

First, note this fact presented on the website of the patent office:

&quot;IP-intensive industries accounted for about $5.06 trillion in value 
added, or 34.8% of U.S. gross domestic product (GDP), in 2010. 
Merchandise exports of IP-intensive industries totaled $775 billion in 
2010, accounting for 60.7% of total U.S. merchandise exports.&quot;

Second, note this excerpt of the Fortune 50 list:

1. Apple
2. Google
3. Amazon
5. IBM
17. Microsoft

...and the fact that these companies are centrally focused on creating, patenting, and licensing software.

Third, note that during the debates, both of the leading candidates for president openly referenced the transformation of the U.S. economy from manufacturing to information. Obama noted that manufacturing jobs are not coming back stateside, and that we should be moving toward more R&amp;D - we should be training more engineers and fewer factory workers. And Romney promised to strengthen the enforcement of IP rights around the world, especially against China.

Adding up those three facts - we have an economy that&#039;s heavily based on commercializing software, companies that recognize the role of  patents in protecting that software, and a federal government committed to upholding those protections in defense of the economy.

Against all of that, you have Richard Stallman&#039;s urging a fundamental reversal of a huge segment of the economy, in pursuit of idealistic and unproven notions of the value of free (as in speech) software.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, this is not going to happen.</p>
<p>First, note this fact presented on the website of the patent office:</p>
<p>&#8220;IP-intensive industries accounted for about $5.06 trillion in value<br />
added, or 34.8% of U.S. gross domestic product (GDP), in 2010.<br />
Merchandise exports of IP-intensive industries totaled $775 billion in<br />
2010, accounting for 60.7% of total U.S. merchandise exports.&#8221;</p>
<p>Second, note this excerpt of the Fortune 50 list:</p>
<p>1. Apple<br />
2. Google<br />
3. Amazon<br />
5. IBM<br />
17. Microsoft</p>
<p>&#8230;and the fact that these companies are centrally focused on creating, patenting, and licensing software.</p>
<p>Third, note that during the debates, both of the leading candidates for president openly referenced the transformation of the U.S. economy from manufacturing to information. Obama noted that manufacturing jobs are not coming back stateside, and that we should be moving toward more R&amp;D &#8211; we should be training more engineers and fewer factory workers. And Romney promised to strengthen the enforcement of IP rights around the world, especially against China.</p>
<p>Adding up those three facts &#8211; we have an economy that&#8217;s heavily based on commercializing software, companies that recognize the role of  patents in protecting that software, and a federal government committed to upholding those protections in defense of the economy.</p>
<p>Against all of that, you have Richard Stallman&#8217;s urging a fundamental reversal of a huge segment of the economy, in pursuit of idealistic and unproven notions of the value of free (as in speech) software.</p>
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		<title>By: Magnus Redin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magnus Redin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would make it easier for you to sell your filter since you would not have to worry about some obvious code being patented and patent vultures. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would make it easier for you to sell your filter since you would not have to worry about some obvious code being patented and patent vultures. </p>
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		<title>By: ComradeQuestions</title>
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		<dc:creator>ComradeQuestions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yyyyyup.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yyyyyup.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: robcat2075</title>
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		<dc:creator>robcat2075</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if I made a new filter for Photoshop or some audio editing app or whatever or developed some new app entirely, I could no longer have real patent protection for it because it would be used on a general purpose computer.

That makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if I made a new filter for Photoshop or some audio editing app or whatever or developed some new app entirely, I could no longer have real patent protection for it because it would be used on a general purpose computer.</p>
<p>That makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn H Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn H Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>End patent wars by ending patents. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>End patent wars by ending patents. </p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of douche surgeon patents a procedure? I can see them wanting recompense from textbook makers, uni&#039;s or such, as long as it isn&#039;t so much to prevent it&#039;s proliferation, since that would be against their interests too, but a royalty for or license for performing it? C&#039;mon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of douche surgeon patents a procedure? I can see them wanting recompense from textbook makers, uni&#8217;s or such, as long as it isn&#8217;t so much to prevent it&#8217;s proliferation, since that would be against their interests too, but a royalty for or license for performing it? C&#8217;mon!</p>
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