People are dying because there’s a war on drugs, not because somebody wants to smoke some dope or take a hit of acid.

I’m sorry but that doesn’t even begin to be an argument, that’s just willful denial of reality. I won’t goad you anymore on it, at least I raised the point, it’s up to you how you rationalize it.

I don’t believe your previous statements in this discussion would be very persuasive to the people who are actually losing friends and family.

People are dying because there’s a war on drugs, not because somebody wants to smoke some dope or take a hit of acid.

 I (and ironically you) am highlighting the disconnect that we have in our appreciation of the amount of damage we are doing when we participate in the drug trade from our side of the border. This story is about the abduction and disappearing of innocent engineers, we sit here in the U.S and go “my, isn’t that tragic? Someone should really do something about that…” when we are the ones supplying the money for these murders as the illicit drug consumers. Personal drug use may be relatively harmless, the drug trade that supplies personal drug use definitely is not.You are no dummy, but I don’t believe your previous statements in this discussion would be very persuasive to the people who are actually losing friends and family. 

When it comes down to continuing illegal recreational use, can you think of a more irresponsible action when you see how much suffering it brings?

A ridiculous argument that shifts blame from the real perpetrators to innocent people, many of whom end up in jail for doing something which is IN AND OF ITSELF harmless.

When it comes down to continuing illegal recreational use, can you think of a more irresponsible action when you see how much suffering it brings?

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Enslaved craftsmen were sometimes crippled — a repeatedly cut tendon, an open wound deliberately kept open — to deter escape.

Hephaestus, crippled smith of the gods, reflects this practice.

I guess we aren’t allowed to challenge the logical ramifications of our own side’s position on this issue without open hostility; apparently it’s our version of “KEEP YER GUBBERMENT HANDS OFF MAH GUNS!”

I assume most of the “Legalize it!” crowd outside of medimarijuana zones are supporting the kidnapping and murder of people around the globe by buying drugs illegally from these very same types of people (or once removed.)

And you’re supporting children and innocent adults being burned alive from the sky when you pay taxes that support war. How can you live with yourself when you know that you personally are providing support to people who torture and murder innocents? You must be the most evil person in the universe. Or possibly just the biggest hypocrite.

But I wonder if an appeal to personal responsibility would shrink the market enough to reduce violence.  It the criminal parts of the drug trade ended up competing for a smaller pie, then I suppose it could actually backfire and increase violence.  I wonder where the tipping point falls.

More importantly, if we can boycott Starfish to save the dolphins, international corporations to end Apartheid, and Chick-fil-A to end homophobia, why won’t people stop “partying” to end murder and kidnapping? 

Stop buying illegal drugs. Do it.

Without the WOD there is less scarcity, less profit, less thuggery, less cool.

Of course, the problem (and one of the main reasons why legalization hasn’t happened yet, I suspect), is the aforementioned asshole’s short-term reaction.

Manager: “I see you have experience in radio engineering, that’s perfect you’re just the man for the job. What do you say, interested?”

Interviewee: “I guess I am, what are the job benefits and salary?”

Manager: “We provide full occupation however we’ll not pay you. We’ll promise to keep you alive while you do your job, but when you’re done, we’ll most likely kill you. What do you say, is that an offer or what?!”

Interviewee: “I’m sorry, I don’t think I’m interested and if you’ll excuse me, I’ll just need to use the restroom.”

Manager: “That’s unfortunate, the offer is binding, non negotiable and compulsory. Welcome to the team!”

– Excerpt from the book “Bosses from hell”

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I guess I was trolling, but I was trying hard not to.

hope I got some sort of a laugh, but I my post does reflect my thinking, except for trolling another commenter. Sorry – I think ;)

Neocons don’t want your sort, SD. 

Why Shouldn’t we put a stop to threatening  terrorist organizations? Lets cut the head from the serpent. It worked very well with Osama — his al-Qaeda terrorist gang is in shambles now that President Obama okayed our guys taking him out. You mention Neocons. Well…David Frum would would eat your lunch, or rather eat you for lunch. Well, I guess Mr. Frum wouldn’t give you the time of day ITFP. 

Your carcass is not fit to feed the grass growing on Bill Buckley’s grave, or the grave of Mr. Buckley’s dog, Fred.

Margaret Thatcher (זצ״ל - zekher tzadik livrakha)  fought against fools like you. Unfortunately, she lost, as seen by the current state of the UK Tory party.  That Mitt Romney dares to mention Lady Thatcher makes me retch!

Tea-Baggers like you are not fit to shine Jimmy Carter’s shoes.

People like you, Sedan Chair, are irrelevant to President Obama or any other person with a brain, conscience, or a soul.

Go back to your wife-swapping, child-abusing, serpent-handling, closet-cottagey, Bransony, anus-licking Tea-Party folk-ways.

why doesnt the USA loan an old electronic warfare pod to the mexican air force to make it easy to detect?

Then again, they might just be concerned about being identified dismantling equipment belonging to a particularly dangerous and well connected paramilitary group with a history of murdering anyone who stands in their way.

But yes, it is quite creepy. Specially for us down here :(