Comments on: NOAA to American public: No, we are not going to just nuke the storms http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sat, 25 May 2013 00:49:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Itsumishi http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1576842 Itsumishi Thu, 08 Nov 2012 02:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1576842 Except Mark, that doesn't leave as much room as you claim.  Japan for example, is pretty much all major faultline. Obviously this has consequences sometimes, but so does trying to relocate 127million people.  Like wise for islanders, and in general developing nations. In 2009, huge portions of my state went up in flames, including my home town. Hundreds of people died, thousands lost their homes. Some towns were very nearly wiped out completely. A lot of people chose to leave these towns afterwards. A lot did not, for those people, the history, their livelihoods, their affiliation with the land, etc; these things were worth the risk of another fire. Besides, the next fire could take out a completely different town, or even hit the city. Meanwhile, cities like NYC have hundreds of years worth of built infrastructure, culture and history. Except Mark, that doesn’t leave as much room as you claim. 

Japan for example, is pretty much all major faultline. Obviously this has consequences sometimes, but so does trying to relocate 127million people. 

Like wise for islanders, and in general developing nations.

In 2009, huge portions of my state went up in flames, including my home town. Hundreds of people died, thousands lost their homes. Some towns were very nearly wiped out completely. A lot of people chose to leave these towns afterwards. A lot did not, for those people, the history, their livelihoods, their affiliation with the land, etc; these things were worth the risk of another fire. Besides, the next fire could take out a completely different town, or even hit the city. Meanwhile, cities like NYC have hundreds of years worth of built infrastructure, culture and history.

]]> By: SomeGuyNamedMark http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1576695 SomeGuyNamedMark Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:09:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1576695 There are some areas that are extremely vulnerable on a relatively frequent basis.  It is a gray area where you have to evaluate risk.  No, you can't stop building in all of CA because of earthquakes but maybe you shouldn't build right on top of a major active known fault line?  Or don't build at the top of an unstable hill?  That still leaves plenty of other choices. There are some areas that are extremely vulnerable on a relatively frequent basis.  It is a gray area where you have to evaluate risk.  No, you can’t stop building in all of CA because of earthquakes but maybe you shouldn’t build right on top of a major active known fault line?  Or don’t build at the top of an unstable hill?  That still leaves plenty of other choices.

]]> By: SomeGuyNamedMark http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1576688 SomeGuyNamedMark Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1576688 Everyone immediately jumps to the extreme "Well we can't build near the water!?".  No, how about building maybe a half mile or mile inland in vulnerable areas and only have port structures closer to the water?  Don't build on sandbars, etc.  I never said don't build near the ocean. Everyone immediately jumps to the extreme “Well we can’t build near the water!?”.  No, how about building maybe a half mile or mile inland in vulnerable areas and only have port structures closer to the water?  Don’t build on sandbars, etc.  I never said don’t build near the ocean.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1576558 Antinous / Moderator Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1576558 Which nuclear country isn't infantile? Which nuclear country isn’t infantile?

]]> By: benher http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1575999 benher Wed, 07 Nov 2012 13:44:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1575999 Such an infantile country should not be wielding nuclear power. Such an infantile country should not be wielding nuclear power.

]]> By: da_phonz http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1575269 da_phonz Tue, 06 Nov 2012 17:35:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1575269 This guy can do it for us: http://youtu.be/FcA8TaQdZP4 This guy can do it for us:

http://youtu.be/FcA8TaQdZP4

]]> By: B E Pratt http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1575146 B E Pratt Tue, 06 Nov 2012 15:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1575146 Uh, wait....maybe that should be, "The Atomocanes and the Sharknadoes, featuring the Nuclear Octocanes!" Kinda long tho.....But the art work would be super cool. Uh, wait….maybe that should be, “The Atomocanes and the Sharknadoes, featuring the Nuclear Octocanes!” Kinda long tho…..But the art work would be super cool.

]]> By: B E Pratt http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1575143 B E Pratt Tue, 06 Nov 2012 15:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1575143 My new rock band: "The Atomocanes!" Wheee..... My new rock band: “The Atomocanes!”
Wheee…..

]]> By: Marios P. http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1575066 Marios P. Tue, 06 Nov 2012 10:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1575066 NUKE sahara to turn it to glass and then worry no more about hot winds. It will also reflect more energy back to space and help reduce the overall heat there ! NUKE sahara to turn it to glass and then worry no more about hot winds. It will also reflect more energy back to space and help reduce the overall heat there !

]]> By: Marios P. http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1575065 Marios P. Tue, 06 Nov 2012 10:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1575065 I think there is an author, Jack London or Jules Verne, I think, who describe a pacific cyclone that they avoided by firing the cannon of the ship while caught in it. Is that story based on facts or just fiction? I think there is an author, Jack London or Jules Verne, I think, who describe a pacific cyclone that they avoided by firing the cannon of the ship while caught in it.
Is that story based on facts or just fiction?

]]> By: jimdigritz http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1575056 jimdigritz Tue, 06 Nov 2012 09:31:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1575056 "I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!" “I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure!”

]]> By: acerplatanoides http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1575032 acerplatanoides Tue, 06 Nov 2012 07:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1575032 Nowhere is safe from ourselves. Nowhere is safe from ourselves.

]]> By: acerplatanoides http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1575016 acerplatanoides Tue, 06 Nov 2012 06:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1575016  The only species in the world that cares if we live or die is us. The world could give a toss what has existed for hundreds of solar cycles.  The only species in the world that cares if we live or die is us. The world could give a toss what has existed for hundreds of solar cycles.

]]> By: Tony DiLorenzo http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1574917 Tony DiLorenzo Tue, 06 Nov 2012 03:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1574917  And when you run out of bullets,throw the gun at it.  And when you run out of bullets,throw the gun at it.

]]> By: Brad Gall http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1574808 Brad Gall Tue, 06 Nov 2012 01:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1574808 Commerce is the point. The cheapest and most efficient way to get things form A to B is by water.Also people who live by the sea learn that eating sea-life is awesome. Commerce is the point. The cheapest and most efficient way to get things form A to B is by water.Also people who live by the sea learn that eating sea-life is awesome.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1574775 Antinous / Moderator Tue, 06 Nov 2012 00:40:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1574775 Nowhere, and most of that nowhere doesn't have enough water to support a large population. Nowhere, and most of that nowhere doesn’t have enough water to support a large population.

]]> By: Itsumishi http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1574720 Itsumishi Mon, 05 Nov 2012 23:19:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1574720 Exactly, humans not only have settled along the coasts for a long time because it was necessary then, but it is also necessary now. We can settle further inland and perhaps we'll avoid some of the worst affects from tropical storms. But what about other disasters Should we also avoid mountains for fear of avalanches and landslides? All forests for fear of fires? Areas prone to tornadoes? Drought? River flooding? Where is left that is safe to settle following this logic? Exactly, humans not only have settled along the coasts for a long time because it was necessary then, but it is also necessary now.

We can settle further inland and perhaps we’ll avoid some of the worst affects from tropical storms. But what about other disasters Should we also avoid mountains for fear of avalanches and landslides? All forests for fear of fires? Areas prone to tornadoes? Drought? River flooding?

Where is left that is safe to settle following this logic?

]]> By: Itsumishi http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1574717 Itsumishi Mon, 05 Nov 2012 23:16:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1574717 I'm not even sure what this is trying to say. We're screwing up the planet by building near the ocean and that's bad? We're harming other species by building near the ocean? We shouldn't consider humans more than any other species? What is the point? I’m not even sure what this is trying to say. We’re screwing up the planet by building near the ocean and that’s bad? We’re harming other species by building near the ocean? We shouldn’t consider humans more than any other species? What is the point?

]]> By: Aaron Gilliland http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1574691 Aaron Gilliland Mon, 05 Nov 2012 22:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1574691 During the oil spill in the Gulf, Chris Matthews of MSNBC fame would NOT stop pushing his idea of sinking an old submarine or large ship onto the well head.  I felt sad for the interviewees who had to respond. During the oil spill in the Gulf, Chris Matthews of MSNBC fame would NOT stop pushing his idea of sinking an old submarine or large ship onto the well head.  I felt sad for the interviewees who had to respond.

]]> By: travtastic http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1574650 travtastic Mon, 05 Nov 2012 21:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1574650 That's just stupid. The proper course of action is to use precision meteorite impacts. That’s just stupid. The proper course of action is to use precision meteorite impacts.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1574643 Antinous / Moderator Mon, 05 Nov 2012 21:44:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1574643 I'll just repeat this comment from the other thread: People settle on the coasts because the sea is an important commerce route, fishing is a major industry, the climate is on the whole actually milder than inland, etc. I’ll just repeat this comment from the other thread: People settle on the coasts because the sea is an important commerce route, fishing is a major industry, the climate is on the whole actually milder than inland, etc.

]]> By: xtophr http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1574605 xtophr Mon, 05 Nov 2012 21:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1574605 Hurricanes in the Atlantic begin as hot winds over the Sahara. Just use nuclear (or solar) power to desalinate seawater and irrigate all of North Africa. Of course, if you do that, the lack of Saharan mineral dust will probably kill major ecosystems throughout the Americas, but whatevs - no more flooding here! Amirite? Hurricanes in the Atlantic begin as hot winds over the Sahara. Just use nuclear (or solar) power to desalinate seawater and irrigate all of North Africa. Of course, if you do that, the lack of Saharan mineral dust will probably kill major ecosystems throughout the Americas, but whatevs – no more flooding here! Amirite?

]]> By: Ramone http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1574562 Ramone Mon, 05 Nov 2012 20:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1574562 The preferred term is "atomocane", as in "Pack your glow speedos folks, the outlook downthe shore this weekend is good for a balmy visit from Atomocane Candice!" The preferred term is “atomocane”, as in “Pack your glow speedos folks, the outlook downthe shore this weekend is good for a balmy visit from Atomocane Candice!”

]]> By: Ramone http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1574555 Ramone Mon, 05 Nov 2012 20:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1574555 Or tumblr. Or tumblr.

]]> By: wysinwyg http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1574545 wysinwyg Mon, 05 Nov 2012 20:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1574545  Probably uncomfortably close to the truth.  Probably uncomfortably close to the truth.

]]> By: wysinwyg http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1574544 wysinwyg Mon, 05 Nov 2012 20:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1574544  That would also lessen the impact of humanity on natural disasters.  Seems fair.  That would also lessen the impact of humanity on natural disasters.  Seems fair.

]]> By: acerplatanoides http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1574522 acerplatanoides Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:40:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1574522 "Who cares that they've existed hundreds of years?" A single species.  “Who cares that they’ve existed hundreds of years?”

A single species. 

]]> By: acerplatanoides http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1574519 acerplatanoides Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1574519  with explosions JUST behind you the ENTIRE WAY  with explosions JUST behind you the ENTIRE WAY

]]> By: Ito Kagehisa http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1574509 Ito Kagehisa Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1574509 I have this image in my head of dozens of aircraft carriers, chained together like a giant pinwheel, being spun around the storm center like the ty-dee-bol man's yacht going down the toilet. This idea needs serious consideration, but frankly I am sold already. I have this image in my head of dozens of aircraft carriers, chained together like a giant pinwheel, being spun around the storm center like the ty-dee-bol man’s yacht going down the toilet.

This idea needs serious consideration, but frankly I am sold already.

]]> By: disillusion http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/noaa-to-american-public-no-w.html#comment-1574506 disillusion Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:31:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=192227#comment-1574506 One runs away from it at great speed! One runs away from it at great speed!

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