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	<title>Comments on: Obama granted fewer pardons than any other modern&#160;president</title>
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		<title>By: HarryObrian</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/obama-granted-fewer-pardons-th.html#comment-1574859</link>
		<dc:creator>HarryObrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 02:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a tad early for the evaluation of the pardon metric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a tad early for the evaluation of the pardon metric.</p>
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		<title>By: knappa</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/obama-granted-fewer-pardons-th.html#comment-1574577</link>
		<dc:creator>knappa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 20:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you. This is the sort of information I was looking for. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you. This is the sort of information I was looking for. </p>
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		<title>By: knappa</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/obama-granted-fewer-pardons-th.html#comment-1574576</link>
		<dc:creator>knappa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 20:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You think that occasionally commenting on a blog is my job?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think that occasionally commenting on a blog is my job?</p>
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		<title>By: knappa</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/obama-granted-fewer-pardons-th.html#comment-1574575</link>
		<dc:creator>knappa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 20:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That didn&#039;t answer my question. Also, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s fair to try and call foul on sarcasm which you initiated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That didn&#8217;t answer my question. Also, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s fair to try and call foul on sarcasm which you initiated.</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/obama-granted-fewer-pardons-th.html#comment-1574517</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That part definitely is, but not the whole article. You have to shit in the fountain of truth to get a good headline like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That part definitely is, but not the whole article. You have to shit in the fountain of truth to get a good headline like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ipo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/obama-granted-fewer-pardons-th.html#comment-1574507</link>
		<dc:creator>Ipo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Blows my mind.  Looks like that article is total fabricated bullshit.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Blows my mind.  Looks like that article is total fabricated bullshit.  </p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/obama-granted-fewer-pardons-th.html#comment-1574486</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doubled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doubled.</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/obama-granted-fewer-pardons-th.html#comment-1574477</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn this article is chock full of fail. 

Obama has granted 5 pardons in 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn this article is chock full of fail. </p>
<p>Obama has granted 5 pardons in 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/obama-granted-fewer-pardons-th.html#comment-1574472</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as doubled over 2 years is constant. But that isn&#039;t the false that the article projects. Most of their sensational bullshit is ratios derived of only Obama to date vs concluded presidential terms, though it does help that he received twice as many in 2011 and is on track to get as many in 2012.

 In 2011 he got more petitions for commutation alone than G.H.W Bush got petitions for pardon &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; commutation in his &lt;b&gt;entire term as president.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as doubled over 2 years is constant. But that isn&#8217;t the false that the article projects. Most of their sensational bullshit is ratios derived of only Obama to date vs concluded presidential terms, though it does help that he received twice as many in 2011 and is on track to get as many in 2012.</p>
<p> In 2011 he got more petitions for commutation alone than G.H.W Bush got petitions for pardon <i>and</i> commutation in his <b>entire term as president.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/obama-granted-fewer-pardons-th.html#comment-1574459</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SO, the part in bold, &lt;b&gt;the second part in bold&lt;/b&gt; I mean. What does it mean when you take into account the &lt;b&gt;fact&lt;/b&gt; that Obama pardoned &lt;b&gt;absolutely no one&lt;/b&gt;, zilch, nada, &lt;b&gt;zero&lt;/b&gt; during his first two years?

Yeah.

I&#039;d be anonymous too, or I&#039;d be a shitty journalist making fakey statements attributed to &quot;several administration officials&quot; who demanded anonymity.

How the fuck can he pardon nearly all of nothing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SO, the part in bold, <b>the second part in bold</b> I mean. What does it mean when you take into account the <b>fact</b> that Obama pardoned <b>absolutely no one</b>, zilch, nada, <b>zero</b> during his first two years?</p>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be anonymous too, or I&#8217;d be a shitty journalist making fakey statements attributed to &#8220;several administration officials&#8221; who demanded anonymity.</p>
<p>How the fuck can he pardon nearly all of nothing?</p>
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		<title>By: Ipo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/obama-granted-fewer-pardons-th.html#comment-1574453</link>
		<dc:creator>Ipo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you won&#039;t RTFA, at least read this part:  
&lt;i&gt;To determine who receives clemency, Obama, like his predecessors, relies on recommendations from the Office of the Pardon Attorney, the arm of the Justice Department that reviews applications. The office — led by &lt;b&gt;Pardon Attorney Ronald Rodgers, a former military judge and federal prosecutor — rarely dispenses endorsements&lt;/b&gt;, however.  
Several administration officials who agreed to discuss pardons on the condition of anonymity said &lt;b&gt;the president pardoned nearly every person recommended by Rodgers&lt;/b&gt; for approval in his first two years in office, but that such applicants were few and far between. &quot;I don&#039;t think he has been given the same opportunity, by this process, to look at these petitioners as his predecessors were,&quot; said Mark Osler, a law professor.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you won&#8217;t RTFA, at least read this part: <br />
<i>To determine who receives clemency, Obama, like his predecessors, relies on recommendations from the Office of the Pardon Attorney, the arm of the Justice Department that reviews applications. The office — led by <b>Pardon Attorney Ronald Rodgers, a former military judge and federal prosecutor — rarely dispenses endorsements</b>, however.<br />
Several administration officials who agreed to discuss pardons on the condition of anonymity said <b>the president pardoned nearly every person recommended by Rodgers</b> for approval in his first two years in office, but that such applicants were few and far between. &#8220;I don&#8217;t think he has been given the same opportunity, by this process, to look at these petitioners as his predecessors were,&#8221; said Mark Osler, a law professor.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/obama-granted-fewer-pardons-th.html#comment-1574444</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He hasn&#039;t been stingy with pardons -if you compare him to other presidents to date- you are spot on correct.

The article is bullshit.
http://www.justice.gov/pardon/statistics.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He hasn&#8217;t been stingy with pardons -if you compare him to other presidents to date- you are spot on correct.</p>
<p>The article is bullshit.<br />
<a href="http://www.justice.gov/pardon/statistics.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.justice.gov/pardon/statistics.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/obama-granted-fewer-pardons-th.html#comment-1574436</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For instance, 

2003, GWB third year first term 
2011, BO third year first term

BO got -literally- More than twice as many petitions for pardon pending and received and almost precisely twice as many petitions for commutation pending and received. Processed almost as many as GWB but X2 and granted more but X2.

Propublica claims investigative journalism. I call bullshit on the premise and content and especially the headline. Also because as is mentioned above, it doesn&#039;t compare unless limited to the first 3-4 years alone. It&#039;s bullshit, either ignorance or partisan. 

Why is it here when there are numbers?

Personally whatever caused Obama to receive x2 as many petitions as his predecessor needs to be stopped/fixed. 

Because how much time should he give this crap? Should it be twice as much as the last guy? Why?</description>
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<p>2003, GWB third year first term <br />
2011, BO third year first term</p>
<p>BO got -literally- More than twice as many petitions for pardon pending and received and almost precisely twice as many petitions for commutation pending and received. Processed almost as many as GWB but X2 and granted more but X2.</p>
<p>Propublica claims investigative journalism. I call bullshit on the premise and content and especially the headline. Also because as is mentioned above, it doesn&#8217;t compare unless limited to the first 3-4 years alone. It&#8217;s bullshit, either ignorance or partisan. </p>
<p>Why is it here when there are numbers?</p>
<p>Personally whatever caused Obama to receive x2 as many petitions as his predecessor needs to be stopped/fixed. </p>
<p>Because how much time should he give this crap? Should it be twice as much as the last guy? Why?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Scott</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/obama-granted-fewer-pardons-th.html#comment-1574407</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it a liberal thing to hand out pardons now? Seems like the facts around a specific case would be more pertinent rather than some broad ideology you subscribe to. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it a liberal thing to hand out pardons now? Seems like the facts around a specific case would be more pertinent rather than some broad ideology you subscribe to. </p>
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		<title>By: trackofalljades</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/obama-granted-fewer-pardons-th.html#comment-1574401</link>
		<dc:creator>trackofalljades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, to be fair he didn&#039;t have some obligations that other presidents have had, like having to let off the family&#039;s coke dealer. Oh wait, do you think I&#039;m kidding?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, to be fair he didn&#8217;t have some obligations that other presidents have had, like having to let off the family&#8217;s coke dealer. Oh wait, do you think I&#8217;m kidding?</p>
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		<title>By: Funk Daddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/obama-granted-fewer-pardons-th.html#comment-1574395</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.justice.gov/pardon/statistics.htm

Why not just look at this? No need to RTFA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.justice.gov/pardon/statistics.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.justice.gov/pardon/statistics.htm</a></p>
<p>Why not just look at this? No need to RTFA</p>
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		<title>By: joshhaglund</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/obama-granted-fewer-pardons-th.html#comment-1574378</link>
		<dc:creator>joshhaglund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;has increased&quot; is a direction and technically answers OP&#039;s question but only slightly better than &quot;no&quot; would have. I think we&#039;re interested in knowing the slope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;has increased&#8221; is a direction and technically answers OP&#8217;s question but only slightly better than &#8220;no&#8221; would have. I think we&#8217;re interested in knowing the slope.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Sissons</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/obama-granted-fewer-pardons-th.html#comment-1574356</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Sissons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A king could leave them guilty and convicted too if he wanted. And he&#039;ll punish you without even convicting you if you say he can&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A king could leave them guilty and convicted too if he wanted. And he&#8217;ll punish you without even convicting you if you say he can&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Professor59</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/obama-granted-fewer-pardons-th.html#comment-1574352</link>
		<dc:creator>Professor59</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is ridiculous.  The bulk of presidential pardons occur in their last few days of office.  The number can&#039;t be compared until he&#039;s out.  What a silly article and any conclusions drawn from it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is ridiculous.  The bulk of presidential pardons occur in their last few days of office.  The number can&#8217;t be compared until he&#8217;s out.  What a silly article and any conclusions drawn from it. </p>
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		<title>By: psruckman</title>
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		<dc:creator>psruckman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 16:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More comprehensive data on clemency rates here: http://www.pardonpower.com/2012/11/president-sitting-on-dozen-positive.html </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More comprehensive data on clemency rates here: http://www.pardonpower.com/2012/11/president-sitting-on-dozen-positive.html </p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/05/obama-granted-fewer-pardons-th.html#comment-1574252</link>
		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> ...or he could read skeptically the way he seems to be doing.  You seem to be getting terribly upset about this article -- maybe you should avoid the news yourself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> &#8230;or he could read skeptically the way he seems to be doing.  You seem to be getting terribly upset about this article &#8212; maybe you should avoid the news yourself?</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In what sense are the branches &quot;co-equal&quot;?  Because it says so in a book somewhere?

Judiciary is already the weakest branch and giving the president veto power over the judiciary weakens it further.

I figured that out when I took civics back in high school.  If you&#039;re having trouble with the subject I could maybe tutor you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In what sense are the branches &#8220;co-equal&#8221;?  Because it says so in a book somewhere?</p>
<p>Judiciary is already the weakest branch and giving the president veto power over the judiciary weakens it further.</p>
<p>I figured that out when I took civics back in high school.  If you&#8217;re having trouble with the subject I could maybe tutor you.</p>
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		<title>By: nowimnothing</title>
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		<dc:creator>nowimnothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I did like about the article was the idea that there is a bit of a conflict of interest in having the department of justice making the clemency recommendations to the president. Moving that outside of that department would grant it more objectivity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I did like about the article was the idea that there is a bit of a conflict of interest in having the department of justice making the clemency recommendations to the president. Moving that outside of that department would grant it more objectivity.</p>
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		<title>By: acerplatanoides</title>
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		<dc:creator>acerplatanoides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The President cannot vacate the conviction, only the punishment. They remain guilty, and convicted. Quite unlike what kings can do, </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The President cannot vacate the conviction, only the punishment. They remain guilty, and convicted. Quite unlike what kings can do, </p>
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		<title>By: nowimnothing</title>
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		<dc:creator>nowimnothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 14:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They only explicitly state that they considered it in one metric that I could find. In most of the article they keep talking about ratios of pardons, but not about actual numbers. In comparing the Wikipedia articles of actual numbers at the same point in their term: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Barack_Obama
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_George_W._Bush

Obama 22 pardons before Nov 2012
W. 19 pardons before Nov 2004

I am not saying the article is not right and that Obama has not been stingy with pardons, but I am always suspicious when it looks like an eye-catching headline comes first and then the stats are presented in a way to support the headline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They only explicitly state that they considered it in one metric that I could find. In most of the article they keep talking about ratios of pardons, but not about actual numbers. In comparing the Wikipedia articles of actual numbers at the same point in their term: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Barack_Obama<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_George_W._Bush" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_George_W._Bush</a></p>
<p>Obama 22 pardons before Nov 2012<br />
W. 19 pardons before Nov 2004</p>
<p>I am not saying the article is not right and that Obama has not been stingy with pardons, but I am always suspicious when it looks like an eye-catching headline comes first and then the stats are presented in a way to support the headline.</p>
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		<title>By: spenze</title>
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		<dc:creator>spenze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 14:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>crass colored glasses....
no one steal my new band name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>crass colored glasses&#8230;.<br />
no one steal my new band name.</p>
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		<title>By: acerplatanoides</title>
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		<dc:creator>acerplatanoides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 14:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except Lincoln. Comparing him to Lincoln always pays off. Few presidents were so irrationally hated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except Lincoln. Comparing him to Lincoln always pays off. Few presidents were so irrationally hated.</p>
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		<title>By: robcat2075</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 14:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Presidential pardon power is an odd one.  It&#039;s in the Constitution, but the origin  of it seems to derive from just a sense that Kings are divinely right in their judgements should be able to prevail over all others.

I suppose one can see it as a check against the power of the judicial branch just as the veto is a check against the power of the Legislative branch, but that sidesteps the fact that no one would be needing a pardon for an unjust conviction if the Executive branch had not unjustly pursued a trial in the first place.  

Perhaps the Pardon is really a check against the power of the bureaucracy, which can run amok, no matter who is at the top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Presidential pardon power is an odd one.  It&#8217;s in the Constitution, but the origin  of it seems to derive from just a sense that Kings are divinely right in their judgements should be able to prevail over all others.</p>
<p>I suppose one can see it as a check against the power of the judicial branch just as the veto is a check against the power of the Legislative branch, but that sidesteps the fact that no one would be needing a pardon for an unjust conviction if the Executive branch had not unjustly pursued a trial in the first place.  </p>
<p>Perhaps the Pardon is really a check against the power of the bureaucracy, which can run amok, no matter who is at the top.</p>
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		<title>By: acerplatanoides</title>
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		<dc:creator>acerplatanoides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 14:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;He has given pardons to roughly 1 of every 50 individuals whose applications were processed by the Justice Department.&quot;

&quot;but that such applicants were few and far between. &lt;b&gt;While the number of applicants has increased in recent years, &lt;/b&gt;Obama — based on Rodgers&#039; recommendations — is denying more people more swiftly than any of his recent predecessors, the data shows.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

care to undrip some of that sarcasm, knapp? Maybe avoid it in future until it&#039;s clear you&#039;re as right as you think.  It didn&#039;t serve you well here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;He has given pardons to roughly 1 of every 50 individuals whose applications were processed by the Justice Department.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;but that such applicants were few and far between. <b>While the number of applicants has increased in recent years, </b>Obama — based on Rodgers&#8217; recommendations — is denying more people more swiftly than any of his recent predecessors, the data shows.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>care to undrip some of that sarcasm, knapp? Maybe avoid it in future until it&#8217;s clear you&#8217;re as right as you think.  It didn&#8217;t serve you well here.</p>
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		<title>By: acerplatanoides</title>
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		<dc:creator>acerplatanoides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 14:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, that is absolutely an unreasonable interpretation of what I said. 

The president works in conjunction with The Justice Department (again, RTFA). 

The equal say is that the Judicial branch relies on the executive to enforce judicial interpretations of legislative acts. 

The executive can (through the pardon), vacate the enforcement part. 

If you want more than that in explanation, take Civics 101. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that is absolutely an unreasonable interpretation of what I said. </p>
<p>The president works in conjunction with The Justice Department (again, RTFA). </p>
<p>The equal say is that the Judicial branch relies on the executive to enforce judicial interpretations of legislative acts. </p>
<p>The executive can (through the pardon), vacate the enforcement part. </p>
<p>If you want more than that in explanation, take Civics 101. </p>
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