Donald Trump calls for revolutionary overthrow of American government

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Antinous / Moderator

I look forward to his sedition trial!
- http://2012diaries.blogspot.com/ tristan eldritch
  
  I look forward to the moment in his sedition trial when one of the prosecutors says “Uh, Donald, now that we’ve got you under oath, WHAT IS THAT SHIT ON YOUR FOREHEAD? Seriously, what is THAT? Did you leave a mousetrap up there and catch that thing?”
  - mysterymoil
    
    We shall overcomb, someday.
- Florian Bösch
  
  The only thing keeping Trump from sedition charges right now is that it would look petty on the governments part.
  - acerplatanoides
    
    I’m sure you feel that is accurate.
SexBobOmb

He deleted it, because he posted it before there was a freakin’ point to it. Obama appears to be winning the popular vote as well.
- Antinous / Moderator
  
  People forget that you can call the Electoral College vote long before the popular vote AND that California is one of the last to be counted but has millions and millions and millions of voters. Obama will probably end up with about 51% of the popular vote.
  
  The fact that Mittens could get 48% of the vote after not answering, changing his mind or lying in virtually every public interaction is disturbing.
  - http://www.nathanhornby.com/ Nathan Hornby
    
    “The fact that Mittens could get 48% of the vote after not answering, changing his mind or lying in virtually every public interaction is disturbing.”
    
    This is what troubles me also.
    
    I imagine that it’s part of the same problem we have here in the UK – in that people vote for parties, and not always candidates. i.e. that percentage (hopefully) represents the republican vote more than it represents a vote for Romney. This is still a worrying trend, but at least easier to rationalise.
    
    Because really, if 48% of America think that guy should be in charge of anything then the UN should be putting the US on some kind of watchlist.
    
    Not even 48% of the UK voted for Cameron, and he’s a pussycat on comparison.
    - benher
      
      “…if 48% of America think …”
      
      I think changing the verb “think” to “believe” explains it. Sadly, certainly no less disturbing.
      
      The blind faith in a “lord” or the angel Boney Moronie or magical underwear exempts these people from critical thinking, intelligent debate or argument.
      - http://twitter.com/fossilfuels Funk Daddy
        
        Think vs Believe is an explanation for political view that stymies many an angry fool.
        
        Unfortunately it rarely lasts for long, they see Fox again and are awash in comfortable angry belief before their brains can rewire enough to reject unsupported statements or flimsy graphs.
    - http://www.youtube.com/user/Freethinkersanon Christopher
      
      I think what must be taken into consideration is that some of the 48% saw Romney as the “lesser of two evils”, which I assume is true of some Cameron voters as well. And I know several people who didn’t care what Romney’s policies were and who weren’t concerned about what he would do. All that mattered to them, the sole reason they were voting for him, was because they wanted Obama out.
      
      Of course I realize that the fact that there is are a number of voters in this country whose major problem with Obama is his skin color or the belief that he’s a socialist or a Muslim is really just sharpening your point that the US should probably be put on some kind of watchlist.
      - http://www.nathanhornby.com/ Nathan Hornby
        
        “All that mattered to them, the sole reason they were voting for him, was because they wanted Obama out.”
        
        Good point, something I hadn’t accounted for. But then you’d think the same about Bush and through some miracle of black magic he got a second innings; but ye, he’s white.
        
        “Of course I realize that the fact that there is are a number of voters in this country whose major problem with Obama is his skin color or the belief that he’s a socialist or a Muslim is really just sharpening your point that the US should probably be put on some kind of watchlist.”
        
        I’d love to agree with you, but unfortunately hate-fuelled bigotry and ignorance aren’t a unique export of the US – I bump into people that live in my own community and the things they say, off the cuff, with no concern can make me cringe. But of course it’s fine because I’m white so they’re just ‘saying what everyone’s thinking’ and couldn’t possibly conceive that I might be offended by their objective offensiveness.
        
        *sigh*
    - http://twitter.com/KEdwardK Keith Edwards
      
      Party loyalty is a huge part of it. I spent all weekend arguing with my conservative family members on Facebook and their arguments all boil down to, “We don’t really like Romney either, not all Republicans are bigots but I don’t want to pay my taxes, so I’m voting for the GOP candidate.” They just lay back and pretend it’s still the party of Reagan and it’s still 1988.
    - http://chipandre.com Chip
      
      A significant portion of that 48% voted for “not-the-black-muslim”. The republicans could have run a meth addict who couldn’t string four words into a meaningful sentence and they still would have received at least a third of the vote as long as he was white and some flavor of christian.
  - Stooge
    
    They weren’t necessarily voting for Romney, but they were definitely voting against Obama.
  - welcomeabored
    
    I sat here at the computer last night watching the election map fill in. There on the monitor was Colorado and New Mexico in blue, surrounded by a big moat of red states voting for Romney. Sometimes, Antinous, I think I’m living in an enormous open-air asylum, and it scares the hell out of me. My fellow citizens look so kind and affable on the outside. Just as divided as the country appears to be, inwardly my fellow citizens are equally schizo, and I just know assholes like Karl Rove are laughing up their sleeves at the chaos. A nation torn in half can do nothing collectively but tear and scratch at each other. Yes, he’s but one of many political operatives and engineers (read: demons), but they’d better cremate his ass when he dies, or I’ll find his gravestone and leave a pile of fresh turds. Grrrrrrr!
    
    On a happy note though, I was pleased to see that there will be fewer mildly stoned folks filling our jails and prisons, and I may yet live to see us stop cutting down trees to make toilet paper. Instead I’ll be standing on the side of the road looking at gently undulating fields of hemp.
    
    I believe there’s a mausoleum in Colma, CA I’d like to briefly visit. I’ll be takin’ a roll of TP with me.
    
    http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM7JZT_William_Randolph_Hearst_Colma_CA
    - http://randomfoo.net/ lhl
      
      The maps you see on the news are pretty falsely polarizing IMO. They don’t account for the fact that in any county, most of the time, the map is pretty “purple.” Also, they show geography, not population. For a better visualization you’d want a cartogram. Here’s ones that UM prof Mark Newman did in 2008: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2008/
      
      Hopefully someone is producing 2012 versions (maybe interactive, allowing you to get an even better understanding of how close the percentages really are).
      - welcomeabored
        
        Thanks, lhl! I kept paging down to look at the percentages, as more closely representing what was happening, but this citation is sweet relief to look at. I’ll add it to my ‘favorites’.
      - Alex Mauer
        
        Same page did the 2012 version: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/
- Roman Berry
  
  So what you’re saying is that Donald Trump is an idiot. A rich idiot to be sure, but still an idiot. Hoocoodanode? ;-)
- cdh1971
  
  Heh…hadn’t checked on whether or not trump deleted the tweet, but it doesn’t matter…I saw the tweet live on MSNBC.
  
  Pics attached are relevant to Trump’s, and his Clownship’s interests:
  
  Notice how the Bitch of Buchenwald resembles Ayn Rand?
  - http://profiles.google.com/marc.k.mielke Marc Mielke
    
    Those pix look like the AI inside of Trump Tower is trying to communicate. (See:Martin Swinton/Brutus)
- benher
  
  Are we certain he wasn’t referring to Bush Jr. ?
  - TheKaz1969
    
    he’s just now catching up to 2000 on his DVR…
http://twitter.com/PsychicWhoosh Michael W.

You have my hairpiece!
- Antinous / Moderator
  
  And my axe!
- cdh1971
  
  Herpes on my head!
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB5HsDRRPRY
ackpht

I didn’t worry about what came out of Trump’s mouth before, and I’m certainly not going to care now.
- Romana_Clef
  
  Even Brian Williams on CNN was like, “I really don’t want to put any time into this, here you go, this happened, moving on.” I’ve never seen an anchorman brush past something so brusquely before. Good for him
  - t3kna2007
    
    Brian Williams had another good line when Savannah Guthrie had to leave as co-host, so Williams turned to the remaining David Gregory and said “well here we are, like two guys left at a bar.”
    - http://twitter.com/pickledbeatnik pickledbeatnik
      
      Let’s not forget the golden “I dunno what that guy said, but I’m sure it makes some kind of sense…” line. Brian is awesome!
  - acerplatanoides
    
    My Brianism of the night “There is a whole lotta weed on a whole lotta ballots”
bzishi

I’m sure Donald was calling for revolution in 2000, but I can’t seem to find any references. But I’m sure this isn’t for political purposes. I mean, he has principles, right?

Funny thing though–Obama did win the popular vote. Donald Trump made his call before the West Coast returns came in. He was probably egged on by Drudge who had supersized text displaying Romney with higher votes than Obama just up until Obama started having higher numbers.
http://theladyfingers.blogspot.com/ Ladyfingers

Wasn’t everyone on the other side kind of ineffectually whining the same thing when Dubya was generalissimo?
- Ipo
  
  Whining the same thing, yes, sort of.
  But not in the same situation.
  
  Not over it.
- joshhaglund
  
  The left is more likely to threaten to leave for the US for a more civilized country. I haven’t seen anyone with visibility like Trump’s call for revolution (on the left). Unless you count musicians. But there, the right’s got (and embraces) Nugent.
  - http://twitter.com/pickledbeatnik pickledbeatnik
    
    I’m pretty surprised Nugent isn’t being charged for treason, or breach of national security or something.
    
    http://youtu.be/eKHNFz7c3X8
    - http://twitter.com/fossilfuels Funk Daddy
      
      Naw, some wingnuts must be loosened and allowed to spin freely. Then pick off the actual dangers that crop up in orbit around it.
      - acerplatanoides
        
        So you believe crop circles are terrestrial in origin? (to the extent Nuge and Trump are).
    - http://profiles.google.com/marc.k.mielke Marc Mielke
      
      They probably discovered how shitting-himself terrified Nugent was of actual military service and decided he wasn’t a threat even with all the guns.
- Navin_Johnson
  
  I wish Romney would have won the popular vote with Obama winning the electoral vote if anything to once again illustrate how awful the system is. It would be nice to have both sides against it, but I have the feeling that the GOP really knows that in the long run it benefits them more.
- acerplatanoides
  
  nope, it seems to have had the desired effect, and bothered you.
- http://twitter.com/KEdwardK Keith Edwards
  
  Not even a little bit. “Second Amendment solutions” are trademarks of the American Right Winger. The other side, as you call them, is all about peaceful protest and nonviolent opposition. If Lefties were violent, OWS would be an armed insurrection rather than street theater.
apoxia

“The world is laughing at us.”

Trump doesn’t seem to be too up-to-date on the world’s opinion of Obama vs Romney. At least not my part of the world.
- http://www.facebook.com/matthew.fabb Matthew Fabb
  
  The BBC put together a poll of 21 countries around the world and only in Pakistan did they favour Romney presidency, all the other countries they polled were all hoping for an Obama win.
  - Jonathan Roberts
    
    They should incorporate that into the election next time. Kind of like the ’ask the audience’ option on Who Wants to be a Millionaire.
    - http://www.nathanhornby.com/ Nathan Hornby
      
      I like this idea :)
      
      Might help put into perspective how out of touch with human beings Republicans are.
    - Warren_Terra
      
      It was tried in 2004, when British people were organized to write letters to Ohio voters explaining how badly the rest of the world wanted Dubya turfed out. I don’t know if there’s any data about the effort, but the conventional wisdom is that it was at best ineffective and at worst counter-productive.
  - midtempo
    
    here’s the graph
    - http://twitter.com/tadasyoyolt Tadas Jelinek
      
      Did Mitt manage to insult France in some way while touring abroad?
      - NynjaSquirrel
        
        He’s not French, that’s usually enough to make their list of undesirables, the more pertinent question would be ‘What did Obama do to make the French like him?’
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1515015318 Missy Pants
        
        The French like Canadians just fine thank you very much. (I think they just like our Jr. High School french class accents tho…)
      - http://profiles.google.com/marc.k.mielke Marc Mielke
        
        Familiarity. He went there to missionary during Vietnam, which means some French people actually met him.
      - Antinous / Moderator
        
        He lived there while he was doing his proselytizing thing.
- http://www.youtube.com/user/Freethinkersanon Christopher
  
  And by “my part of the world” I take it you mean “the rest of the world”.
  - apoxia
    
    Well I wouldn’t be so presumptuous to claim to know the general feeling of the whole rest of the world, but I think I’ve got a pretty good handle on the average feeling of New Zealanders.
  - http://profiles.google.com/marc.k.mielke Marc Mielke
    
    Here’s a little taste of what the rest of the world thinks of Trump.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADecI4xw-yg
- TheKaz1969
  
  is it possible the world is laughing at us because we’ve made Donald Trump a celebrity??
  - NynjaSquirrel
    
    We’re not laughing… we were always taught that you don’t laugh at those less fortunate than ourselves.
  - Antinous / Moderator
    
    Did we make him a celebrity? Didn’t he make a fortune in real estate and then buy his way onto the television?
    - TheKaz1969
      
      .. and then we watched and all started walking around saying, “you’re fired!”
    - edkedz
      
      No, he inherited his father’s real estate fortune, then proceeded to more-or-less sort-of break even (and also lose shitloads at various times) being more flashy and publicity-hungry than his old man (who was quite the piece of work himself of you look it up) all the while fraudulently claiming to be totally self-made.
      - Antinous / Moderator
        
        Well if he had the drive and business savvy to be born into the right family, who are we to be jealous of his success?
- http://www.ikaink.net Itsumishi
  
  The world was never laughing at this election. Most the world was worried shitless that Romney could even get that close.
Russ McClay

According to the current numbers I see (CNN), Obama is ahead in the popular vote by over a million votes.
Mitchell Glaser

So now Obama has won the popular vote and Trump has proven to be even stupider than he has appeared these past several month. Will it change anything?

I just watched Obama thank Romney et al for leading the most dishonest and divisive political campaign in generations. Swept it all right under the rug in a prayer for bipartisanship he ain’t gonna get. Is there any reason to think that Trump’s little tantrum will even register on the public mind? Not a bit.
That_Anonymous_Coward

Dear Donald Trump,
You should be aware that some asshole is signing your name to a bunch of stupid tweets.
- Warren_Terra
  
  source, for anyone unfamiliar with it.
  - That_Anonymous_Coward
    
    Danke for the assist.
http://twitter.com/PsychicWhoosh Michael W.

♫ Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right
All right, all right
All right, all right, all right
All right, all right, all right ♫
- Antinous / Moderator
  
  Here’s a little musical tribute to the election results, and then tomorrow we can get back to tearing Obama a new asshole for drone strikes and bad copyright law.
  - paulcarcosa
    
    Cough, Guantanamo.
Russ McClay

President Obama was unfazed. On “The Tonight Show With Jay Leno,” Obama joked to Leno that the bad blood between him and the “Celebrity Apprentice” star “dates back to when we were growing up together in Kenya.”
- http://www.nathanhornby.com/ Nathan Hornby
  
  He seems to have a real thing with Trump, I particular liked the hazing he gave him at that dinner reception.
  
  I bet that really they despise each other. Like fight to the death despise each other.
  - Halloween_Jack
    
    I doubt that he pays that much attention to Trump most of the time.
    - http://www.nathanhornby.com/ Nathan Hornby
      
      Hm, I’d like to agree – but I would be surprised if Trump didn’t have a lot of power and influence that contributes to making Obama’s job unpleasant.
      - http://twitter.com/fossilfuels Funk Daddy
        
        I’d guess somewhere between O’Relly? and Becknotthemusician, and there is significant benefit to Trump too. When Trump announced that he might want to be president, that totally helped Obama.
      - http://www.nathanhornby.com/ Nathan Hornby
        
        There is that…
      - jackbird
        
        I don’t think Trump has all that much pull anymore, if he ever did. He was always much better at self-promotion than at actually pulling the levers of power (or keeping his businesses solvent).
mobobo

TRUMP: ~

Northern to midlands slang for a fart, expelling of wind from the anus.

Oi who trumped?
- NynjaSquirrel
  
  And almost always used in a childish manner – so even more fitting. This is one of those Britishisms that REALLY needs to catch on over there. “OMG, that guy totally trumped in the elevator’. or “Damn bro, was that you? No, that sulphury cloud was the dog trumping”
  - Ipo
    
    Ahh. That explains the name of the “trumpet”.
Jewels Vern

Excuse me, “revolution” does not necessarily mean “overthrow the government”.
- http://lemoutan.blogspot.com/ Lemoutan
  
  Quite right. It normally refers to the overthrowing of the state. And I’m pretty sure lickle Trumpy-Wumpy doesn’t want that.
- Stooge
  
  Right. He might have meant that someone should invent the steam engine.
  - Jewels Vern
    
    What I meant was that if the people were to suddenly grow a brain, that would be a bonafide revolution. Revolution means to turn around, not the same as to overturn.
    - ocker3
      
      Technically yes, but in common parlance, he means an overthrow of the government. Context.
      - TheKaz1969
        
        I agree, but it is likely the “technically, revolution means…” that his lawyers use to get him out of any trouble.. if that even ever happens.
      - http://twitter.com/fossilfuels Funk Daddy
        
        True that any judge would take one look at Donald and instantly understand that there was an outside chance he meant people who were unhappy with the election result should spin about until dizzy then fall down. Cause The Donald looks like he does it all day.
    - Stooge
      
      I imagine you would benefit greatly from such a revolution.
      - http://twitter.com/fossilfuels Funk Daddy
        
        Claps merrily
      - http://grumer.org/ Avram Grumer
        
        Hey, play nice with the other commenters.
      - cdh1971
        
        Yes, I agree that he didn’t deserve that comment.
    - Mitchell Glaser
      
      Grow a brain? You think that’s what Trump wants? Sorry, he knows he’s a con man and the last thing he wants is for the rubes to catch on.
    - http://twitter.com/KEdwardK Keith Edwards
      
      Trump wasn’t speaking astronomically. I mean, sure it’s maybe possible he’s mistaken President Obama for Neil deGrasse Tyson and is still really pissed about Pluto, but it’s more likely he was advocating for the violent overthrow of a democratically elected leader.
- travtastic
  
  It’s just, like, no one understands oblique references to Tracy Chapman anymore.
t3kna2007

Frustrated dominant is frustrated. And I like that. He can console himself by building a few more golf courses.
- http://www.nathanhornby.com/ Nathan Hornby
  
  He really does remind me of Hollingsworth Hound.
  
  All the wealth a person could ever want – more power than any unelected man should ever have – and yet he’s still bitching about shit like this.
  
  What a fucking spoiled brat. Absolute shit of a man.
  - http://twitter.com/beep54orama B E Pratt
    
    I dunno…..Hollingsworth Hound seems decidedly calmer than Trump.
    - http://www.nathanhornby.com/ Nathan Hornby
      
      He’s got better hair too.
      - Ipo
        
        I was gonna say “anyone does” but then I found this picture.
        That’s fairly similar to his hair.
      - cdh1971
        
        You know, it just occurred to me.
        
        Donald the Trump gets his hair done by Scrooge McDuck’s ass-stylist.
      - Antinous / Moderator
        
        Maybe Mr. Trump is sporting a Stipa tenuissima on his head.
That_Anonymous_Coward

Can we all hope that that vein in his forehead is going to twitch and pulse enough to knock that poor defiled cat corpse off his head? Maybe then the obvious symptoms of heat stroke will pass.
tw1515tw

Best response so far – from Christopher Berry
http://instagram.com/p/Rt3IFBRvZS/
http://twitter.com/polsedierta sedierta

As always XKCD has the answer. http://xkcd.com/1131/
http://2012diaries.blogspot.com/ tristan eldritch

As an overseas reader, one of the reasons why I was hoping for an Obama victory despite not being a huge Obama fan is that it is far more satisfying to see the abjectly ignorant crying into their beer than the moderately intelligent. I am particularly looking forward to some maudlin histrionics from Glen Beck. Possibly with guitar histrionics from Ted Nugent – While My Guitar Gently Weeps.
- cdh1971
  
  Heh Heh, tristan.
  
  Your blog looks well worth checking out, and I shall.
- http://twitter.com/fossilfuels Funk Daddy
  
  While Chuck Norris pummels an empty chair being held down by Clint Eastwood. Yes indeedy, I expect many an amusing story about how Obama stole the election from white people over the next few weeks.
  - http://twitter.com/beep54orama B E Pratt
    
    Uhm, does the 1000 Years of Darkness begin now? Or do we have to wait until January for the actual Inauguration?
    - cdh1971
      
      Winter has come…at least perhaps for Donald.
      
      Springtime for Romney has been averted.
      
      I feel sorta bad (okay, not really) about attaching a picture of Michael Steele to this comment, one in which he is wearing nazi drag and cavorting with the House Drunk and Grannie Panties, but hey – he’s an intelligent guy and the cognitive dissonance seems strong in him.
      
      It’s time Steele left the Republican Party, otherwise, he’s just another otherwise not-too-bad person who stays in the nazi party ’cause he is deluded into thinking he can effect change from within.
      
      Yes — I’m skimming the surface of Godwin’s law – but I believe I am still in compliance as I have only made an analogy in this comment, not accusations or name calling. That and the pics are satire-ish
http://www.facebook.com/people/Nell-Anvoid/100002383626402 Nell Anvoid

Well, Donald…I don’t know about the rest of the world…but I’m certainly laughing. The most viscerally satisfying part of this is the prospect of watching the hate-sprewing bloviators and the imbeciles on Fox throw their tantrums and freak-outs. The only down side is that a Romney win would have been a great thing for comedy. Obama has to step it up; he’s too sensible.
http://noctilucent-studios.blogspot.com/ Noctilucent Studios

Hey Donald, you don’t mind if we start the Revolution right at the base of Trump Tower, do you?
traalfaz

I assume he did NOT have the same feeling when Bush lost the popular vote but won the election? And that was in the final count.
Alex Aumann

In a way… Trump is right. The country needs a revolution. Both OWS and the Tea Party would agree. Politics has deadlocked the country into a messy place, and the recent election won’t have changed that.

I’m not sure what would need to happen to reboot politics to cause people and politicians to be pragmatic and concentrate on solutions rather than mudslinging, though.

I do look forward to the next few months, where we’ll see the Republicans rip each other new ones over why a party that promotes the interest of the 1% can’t seem to get elected by the 99%.
- http://www.nathanhornby.com/ Nathan Hornby
  
  The whole world is on the edge of revolution – I’m not sure if I’m correct in assuming this is historically significant, and unique, but it seems that way.
  
  I’m not entirely sure how a global revolution would pan out. Ultimately probably something I’d rather read about than experience first-hand.
  
  “I do look forward to the next few months, where we’ll see the Republicans rip each other new ones over why a party that promotes the interest of the 1% can’t seem to get elected by the 99%.”
  
  But they did land 48%, which is worrying.
  - NynjaSquirrel
    
    I’m sure 48% of Merkans don’t like a coloured fella being in that there White House over yonder…
    - http://www.nathanhornby.com/ Nathan Hornby
      
      They’ll tell you that it’s because he’s a Kenyan Commu-Muslim.
      
      Apparently people that detached from reality are still allowed to vote.
      - NynjaSquirrel
        
        Not meaning your post obviously, but I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve seen socialism and communism used interchangeably over the course of this campaign by people afraid of his communist ideas such as Obamacare.
    - IronEdithKidd
      
      Racism was almost certainly at play. However, there’s an unsettling number of anti-choice, anti-gay, pro-”Christian” voters in the US. These people will vote against their economic interest at every turn so long as their authoritarian agenda gets a shot at controlling the lives of their fellow citizens.
      
      I understand you were attempting to make a funny, but I just don’t find racism entertaining and I’m certain it’s not the main reason Romney got votes from a portion of the 47% of America that he so hypocritically despises.
      - NynjaSquirrel
        
        Oh – I know, and what depresses me is that the Republican attitude to fight him at every turn in the house now means that they’ll be happy to cut off their noses to spite their face simply to see everything he tries to put through – fail.
      - http://marjaerwin.livejournal.com/ Marja Erwin
        
        How long until they start insisting Obama is actually a lesbian separatist too?
      - IronEdithKidd
        
        OK. *That* was funny.
      - Mitchell Glaser
        
        Remember that Sheldon Adelson, one of Romney’s biggest supporters is Jewish, so it’s not all pro-Xian. There is a lot of pro-$$$ involved.
      - IronEdithKidd
        
        Another flavor of single-issue voter, but the quantitiy of those votes is several orders of magnitude smaller.
        
        [edit: cleaned up spelling error]
      - jackbird
        
        I finally understood this attitude; could never really figure it out before. It’s something like “The reason for the spectacular rise of the USA in the post-WWII era is due to the direct intercession of God. If the American people strays too far from the ‘moral,’ path, God’s protection will be removed and the country will fall into ruin.”
      - IronEdithKidd
        
        Right, because US preeminence post WWII had nothing to do with Europe having to completely rebuild their industrial capacity while ours was at full, unscathed capacity. Nope. God. Because God.
- DisGuest
  
  Campaign finance and Lobbying reform would help to an extent. Bring back the leaders to their real constituents: the people, not the corporate muckety mucks.
- Al_Packer
  
  Alex, check out the No Labels organization ( www dot nolabels dot org ) They’re trying to move the nation past partisan gridlock, and they are starting to get traction.
caracepatmenurunkanberatbadan

congratulations to the re-election of Obama as the American president for the second time
- Jellodyne
  
  Pedantically, he was only re-elected for the first time.
Guest

ps – don’t tell him.. he thinks it is live TV
howaboutthisdangit

Aww, da spoiled crybaby didn’t get his way, so he’s throwing a tantrum. I’m sure that if Romney had won, Donald would be telling Obama supporters, “get over it”, “love it or leave it”, etc.

This is not over yet. As an Earther, I demand proof that Donald Trump is really from this planet.
technogeekagain

I’m willing to grant Trump a moment of frustration-induced stupidity.

It’s his earlier unforced stupidity that I consider meaningful and unforgivable.
http://twitter.com/pickledbeatnik pickledbeatnik

So as far as disenfranchised poor people, immigrants, students, women, and the elderly calling for a revolution are concerned Donald says “kiss my ass,” but the instant someone is elected who won’t help him compound his billions any further it’s “Viva la Revolucion!”

Truly, this person is a sad waste.
- http://twitter.com/fossilfuels Funk Daddy
  
  Ha, Donald as a Revolutionary Leader…
  
  He’s probably reading histories of Castro and thinking to himself
  
  “Oh.. My.. God.. Expropriation is the best real estate venture in history, and all for free, uh I mean, Freedom!”
http://twitter.com/chrisjimson chris jimson

Except there have been plenty of times where a Republican won the electoral vote but lost the popular vote– does he think we should have overthrown George W. Bush when he beat Gore without the popular vote?
- http://marjaerwin.livejournal.com/ Marja Erwin
  
  And that with a lot of skullduggery in Florida.
- abstract_reg
  
  To be fair, there should have been a revolution in 2000.
  - http://twitter.com/fossilfuels Funk Daddy
    
    Or just an extended court challenge.
    
    Violent upheaval that leaves hundreds of thousands of dead to no gain isn’t actually necessary over the election theft of a mere President, thanks to other available remedies. Gore did concede and did not necessarily have to.
  - acerplatanoides
    
    there WAS one. we lost*.
    
    * – trillions, international respect, and domestic tranquility.
blindidiotgod

I have this vision of him running naked and howling across the White House lawn, a stream of cognitive dissonance tears trailing behind him. At least then some secret service guy might put him out of his misery.
abstract_reg

Who gave this guy a twitter account anyway!
…What’s that? … My aid has just informed me that twitter accounts are free for any monkey to use. In fact there are house cats with twitter accounts. Nevermind, carry on world.
OohErMissus

Unfortunately for Donald, he’s far more knowledgeable at suppressing revolution rather than fomenting it, if his 4-part combover technique is any indication.
TaymonBeal

Christ, what an asshole.
Navin_Johnson

Trump and his ilk would not make out so well in a real revolution……
acerplatanoides

“The world is laughing at us.”

the Donald has a mouse in his pocket.
- Al_Packer
  
  In fact, most of the world views President Obama favorably. This from the BBC web site:
  
  “The BBC’s Chris Morris in Brussels writes: Europe will be waking up this morning with a general sigh of relief. Opinion polls have always shown President Obama to be more popular than Governor Romney across the continent – but for most governments, too, continuity in Washington is better than a changing of the guard. The US Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner – as well as the President himself – has been closely involved in discussions on the eurozone. The EU is so embroiled in its internal debates on the eurozone crisis that it doesn’t want any external distractions.”
  
  Also: “‘Relieved but underwhelmed’ appears to sum up much of the European press reaction”
  - acerplatanoides
    
    Thanks Al. I was mocking the Donald. “Having a mouse in ones pocket” is an old timey polite way to say ‘inappropriately speaking for the group’.
    - Al_Packer
      
      I like the discussions on BoingBoing–the humor is better, there’s more thought in them, and much more cordiality. So thank you, Acer.
Aspexi

Spy magazine had it right when they called him a “short-fingered vulgarian.” That was back in 1988, and he hasn’t improved one bit.
feetleet

Three things:

1. In response to Lemoutan: sedition can be committed against ANY level of government. Federal, State… all the way down to municipal. It’s not a semantic argument – it’s right in the U.S. Code (18 USC § 2385, below)

2. Now a fun one. Any person convicted of sedition is AUTOMATICALLY ineligible to work as a government employee for the next five years. So a conviction for this statement would spoil it for Bachmann/Trump ’16. Ironically, if Trump is making these kinds of statements to lay the groundwork for a political career, he could be hoisted by his own petard if he starts to take it too far.

3. In response to Jewels Verne: Webster’s defines ‘revolution’ as “a fundamental change in political organization; ESPECIALLY: the OVERTHROW [of a] government.” You could argue that the code requires advocacy of a VIOLENT overthrow. But most American schoolchildren understand the word “revolution” to refer to an actual bloody overthrowing war, e.g., the American revolution. In fact there have been very few NON-violent revolutions in human history.

Trump WON’T be convicted of advocating overthrow. Not because he didn’t commit a federal crime. But because we all know he’s a blowhard. Really, that’s the actual reason. Hear me out.

The federal statute he violated has been upheld as an exception to the First Amendment’s free speech protections, but only when the advocacy incites unlawful conduct that is both IMMINENT and LIKELY.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imminent_lawless_action

I have no doubt that Tea Party zealots could storm into the streets at any moment with their stockpiled guns and wreak plenty of unlawful havoc given the right push. But Donald Trump can’t even incite his HAIR to behave a certain way. So it’s not LIKELY.

Now consider this. If John Boehner or Chris Christie had made the exact same statement outside of Congress – even with the same vagueness and quick retraction – THAT might constitute sedition.

Everyone seemed so quick to jump on the ‘sedition’ bandwagon here. But free speech applies to happy mutants and D-bags alike. We have to take the bad with the good. Let him bloviate.

18 USC § 2385 ”Whoever [advocates] overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States OR the government of any State, territory [...] OR ANY POLITICAL SUBDIVISION THEREIN [...] by force or violence [...] or publishes [that advocacy] [...] shall be fined [...] or imprisoned [...] or both, and shall be INELIGIBLE for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the next five years following his conviction.”
- acerplatanoides
  
  Nobody is jumping on a bandwagon. We’re chasing the Donald back into his clown car.
liquidstar

I couldn’t help but think of this clip when I saw who saved the tweet from being deleted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUWXjs2jPQI
- euansmith
  
  :D you beat me to it! LIQUIDSTAAAAAARRRRR!!!
Al_Packer

I think what most Americans are looking for is politicians who are socially liberal and fiscally conservative, politicians who will follow the Hippocratic principle “First of all, do no harm.”
Sean Breakey

For some reason he didn’t say this when Bush did the same thing… almost as if it were politically motivated, or something…