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44 Responses to “Karl Rove vs. math”

  1. awjt says:

    It’s tough when you are being shuffled out the door and you still have stuff you wanna say.

  2. Funk Daddy says:

    Pretty sweet to have Barack Obama backed in red with a yellow effect moving back and forth below… burn baby burn.

    Keep up the fine subliminal messages Fox!

  3. Funk Daddy says:

    HAH, Rove managed to get 9/11 in there at 58 seconds in

  4. lknope says:

    Fox News asks its decision desk, Fucking vote counting, how does it work?

  5. robcat2075 says:

    Pundits surprised that Fox anchors went back to question their statistics experts.

    I’m surprised Fox HAS statistics experts.

    • Quiche de Resistance says:

      Actually Fox called most of the states really early.  I suspect they really do have a pretty good news organization but (obviously) they usually ignore it for the mo-money-makin conservative nutjob stuff.

    • gracchus says:

      Poniewozik is absolutely correct about the bizarreness of an anchor turning on his own network’s decision desk just because a pundit (let alone one like Rove) doesn’t like the direction things are going. Getting put on that desk for election night is a major vote of confidence from a news director or EP, and I’m sure they’ll lose some of their best staff members because of this stunt.

      • L_Mariachi says:

        It looked to me more like the anchor turning on Rove. “Oh yeah? Well let’s go talk to these guys directly and compare their data to your unsubstantiated gut feeling and see which one comes out on top.”

      • robcat2075 says:

         The “Decision Desk” at FOX News is Roger Ailes.

        Anyone in that room we saw is just a hired hand who may speak when spoken to.

  6. Hank Kelly says:

    If Rove had a shred of credibility left, he lost it last night. I switched to Fox News just to see how they were handling the news of Obama’s victory.   Even though it was Fox, I was shocked to see and hear what Rove was spewing.

  7. hyph3n says:

    I think I speak for all Democrats on this matter… how in the heck did we lose to this guy twice?

    • robcat2075 says:

       A noun , a verb, and 9/11 was all it took.

      • acerplatanoides says:

        I started calling his exhortations “9/11-libs”. Like mad libs, but much more antisocial.

    • sgtdoom says:

      That Was The Week That Was [TW3]

      The Republican platform:  “Life Begins at Rape” falters and . . . . .

      Female voters in Indiana and Missouri discover their brain and vote properly — for a change!

      Massachusetts’ voters rediscover their brain and vote for Prof. Elizabeth Warren over that random slitch, Scott-what’s-his-face!

      Wisconsin voters finally use their brain and voted the intelligent, desirable dyke over that whackjob, Tommy “all Americans should be microchipped” Thompson!

      Hallelujah ! !

      Magic Underwear Guy Loses

      Willard Mitt Romney’s career as a tax dodging, draft dodging, queen of debt creation evidently didn’t impress enough members of the electorate.  Apparently Romney’s prime example of business acumen:  putting a poor dog in a cage atop a speeding car and watching him crap over the car’s windows didn’t impress enough voters either.

      The Challenge

      An offer of a $1 million prize to Linda McMahon to wrestle Donald Trump in a “Stomp the Trump’s Rump” exhibition match.  (Maybe NYC Mayor “Elizabeth Warren is a socialist” Bloomberg will put up the prize money?)

      The lesson of the very close popular vote?

      Un-privatize the national voting process — centralize it — and hire the McDonald’s Corporation to expedite it — if they can do fast food, then fast and efficient voting should be a real cinch for them!

      Nineteen woman senators?  It’s a good start . . . . .

  8. Quiche de Resistance says:

    Urrrgh, uhng, heee hee haha… I’m having mirth pains and shooting thrills down my funny bone.  Please, call a doctor (or clown) I think I’m suffering a schadenfreude overdose!  Oooohhh, Karl you went and done it, this is the big one!!  It’s gonna take the sugeons 45 minutes just to get the smile off my face!!!

  9. coop says:

    And yes, obligatory XKCD reference:


  10. swlabr says:

    This doesn’t look to me like as big of fuss as is being described here. I dislike Rove as much as anyone, but deciding to call a count in a close race is a matter of interpretation, and Rove just wasn’t in a hurry to concede that interpretation. It didn’t look like a Fox news melt-down. There’s plenty of other more interesting things to dislike about Fox news.  

    • acerplatanoides says:

      Yeah, but usually when the Rove has gotten breathless on-air, FOX NEWS has swirled around him and intensified the shit storm.

    • acorn_mant says:

      Concern troll to the rescue!

      • robcat2075 says:

         Disagreement is now “concern trolling”

        • Antinous / Moderator says:

          Technically, “There’s plenty of other more interesting things to dislike about Fox news”, fits the bill. Don’t pay attention to this because there are other areas of greater concern.

          Although I wouldn’t have interpreted it that way.

  11. Navin_Johnson says:

    The disbelief of a dude who thought voter suppression would do the trick in Ohio and Florida.

  12. gracchus says:

    What else do you expect from the guy who blithely dismissed the concerns of the “reality-based community” back during the Cheney Regency? I’m only surprised that toads don’t leap from his mouth when he speaks.

  13. Matthew Fabb says:

    I admit that it seemed to me last night that they were too quick to call Ohio for Obama. That too many votes were yet to be counted and at one point Romney actually took the lead in Ohio by several thousand votes after it had been called for Obama. Looking at the various interactive maps, there seemed to be just as more counties leaning Romney than Obama where left to be counted.

    It was made very clear to me when one of the news channels pointed out that in Ohio that about 740,000 votes were left uncounted from Obama leaning counties and 140,000 votes left uncounted from Romney leaning counties. That info was hard to get from the interactive maps.

    Still as others point out, it’s nice to see FOX actually let math and facts rather than Karl Rove dictate the coverage.

    • acerplatanoides says:

      Edited to reflect that I was basically agreeing with you, except that the early calling seemed to me to be more for drama and to keep eyeballs on the screen than because there was any question. FOX certainly didn’t call it first, and they sprinkled in their usual dose of FUD.

  14. We spent a few minutes watching Faux News just to see how they were covering the election and happened to catch Turdblossom’s rant real-time.

    I appreciated his point that it may have been premature to call the results with only a 900 vote spread and over 22% of the votes yet to be counted.

    But he and the rest of the Faux News staff were ignoring the bigger picture which was that there were still three other states in question, any of which would have given Obama more than the 270 electoral college votes he needed to win.

    This is what in fact happened, and while Turdblossom was still ranting, Obama was declared the winner in Colorado, making the Ohio results moot.

    • BillStewart2012 says:

      I thought that hardly rated as a rant.  Grumbling and maybe sulking, sure, but it’s not like he was waving his cane at the sky or yelling at an empty chair.   It’s not even up to “It’s just a flesh wound!”, but it may count as “I’m not dead yet!”, with Fox’s anchors complaining about how Karl won’t get on the cart.

  15. Colin Spitler says:

    There’s a remarkable resemblance. Perhaps he can take over this guy’s job.

  16. Mitchell Glaser says:

    I can’t wait for Rove and his ilk to decide that oxygen is a liberal plot and refuse to breathe.

  17. chris jimson says:

    My guess is that Karl believes that reporting the vote influences the vote so he doesn’t want to “jinx” Romney, which might be true earlier in the day, but *after* the vote has closed it doesn’t matter.

    This Karl Rove story is getting a lot of publicity, I wonder how Fox feels about that.

    If you look at all the predictions of a Romney victory from assorted conservative pundits and websites, they were all based on selectively using polls that fit their narrative, and they all turned out to be wrong.  Rove has been wrong about math before, at what point will conservatives toss or at least temper their belief in “liberal media bias”?  The polls were mostly right, they weren’t skewed towards Obama. 

  18. Steve Laudig says:

    did I mishear him or did he say the chief election officer of ohio is the romney campaign chair in ohio? If so, that is the problem. What I see happening here is that Rove tried to set up another Florida 2000 situation in Ohio and this was part of the play. this is particularly persuasive to me IF the Ohio Secretary of State is the Romney State Campaign Chair. This was an attempted theft ala Florida 2000 that was thwarted by Team Obama’s superior ground game.

  19. JimEJim says:

    Rove understands math just fine.  He was just flustered that he couldn’t find a way to spin the news in his favor this time.  His calculations always revolve around the best way to lie to suit his own agenda.

  20. jkg says:

    It was truly a glorious sight to behold.

    He bilked Adelson and the Koch Brothers for $45 million. Some may think he’s crying all
    the way to the bank, not me. Rove wasn’t just in denial about Romney’s loss. He was watching his reputation and legacy as GOP kingmaker go up in smoke, and now he’s always going to be looking over his shoulder for the black maria pulling up behind him in the employ of the Kochs.

    Also, best thing I saw on Twitter last night:

    “Does Karl Rove know he is basically enacting a liberal fantasy of Karl Rove Reacting to Losing an Election?” – James Poniewozik

    • Antinous / Moderator says:

      How has the Democratic Party managed to get a sleeper agent as Republican candidate for President twice in a row now?

  21. bobcorrigan says:

    What he *wanted* to say was, “But. . .but. . .I *bought* Ohio!  I have the receipts!  I bought it WEEKS ago!  Seriously, guys, I bought it!”