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	<title>Comments on: TOM THE DANCING BUG:  Hollingsworth Hound  - Is There a Hurricane&#160;Problem?</title>
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		<title>By: Matthew Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 00:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I don&#039;t mean to belittle those who were hurt or killed or the tragedy for their families. That&#039;s terrible anywhere in the world. It&#039;s really the larger point I intended to make, and I&#039;m sorry I missed the mark by being flip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I don&#8217;t mean to belittle those who were hurt or killed or the tragedy for their families. That&#8217;s terrible anywhere in the world. It&#8217;s really the larger point I intended to make, and I&#8217;m sorry I missed the mark by being flip.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Wouldn&#039;t it be easier to simply lower the basket, or hoop, by six inches?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Wouldn&#8217;t it be easier to simply lower the basket, or hoop, by six inches?</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 21:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, the idea that global warming will harm the US less than it does most of its biggest competitors has been given as a reason not to do anything about it, but your scenario ignores the fact that there is no short term way to reverse our course.

The reasons are far simpler than that - any politician who brought about the kinds of changes we need to make in order to handle these problems would be lucky to go down in history as the most hated man in his country. Since he will be up for reelection long before any benefits are brought about by his new policy, he&#039;ll be replaced by someone who will immediately cancel everything he did. His political career will be over, and he will have accomplished nothing...

No democracy will ever do anything positive about global warming unless they have no choice (because they have no access to fossil fuels at a remotely affordable price.)

Plus, of course, even if the US completely stopped burning fossil fuels, they&#039;d just get burned in China or India instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, the idea that global warming will harm the US less than it does most of its biggest competitors has been given as a reason not to do anything about it, but your scenario ignores the fact that there is no short term way to reverse our course.</p>
<p>The reasons are far simpler than that &#8211; any politician who brought about the kinds of changes we need to make in order to handle these problems would be lucky to go down in history as the most hated man in his country. Since he will be up for reelection long before any benefits are brought about by his new policy, he&#8217;ll be replaced by someone who will immediately cancel everything he did. His political career will be over, and he will have accomplished nothing&#8230;</p>
<p>No democracy will ever do anything positive about global warming unless they have no choice (because they have no access to fossil fuels at a remotely affordable price.)</p>
<p>Plus, of course, even if the US completely stopped burning fossil fuels, they&#8217;d just get burned in China or India instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/07/tom-the-dancing-bug-hollings-2.html#comment-1578636</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 20:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anybody think this could be by design? The rich countries of the world will be able to weather the storm, if you pardon the expression, of climate change. Once we have pushed the poorer, less resource rich nations to unescapable poverty, we magnanimously come to the rescue, scoop them up for nearly free after any resistance has been starved, reverse our course of climate destruction, and retain our place at the top. I&#039;m glad I&#039;m in a rich nation, it&#039;s a terrible time to be poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody think this could be by design? The rich countries of the world will be able to weather the storm, if you pardon the expression, of climate change. Once we have pushed the poorer, less resource rich nations to unescapable poverty, we magnanimously come to the rescue, scoop them up for nearly free after any resistance has been starved, reverse our course of climate destruction, and retain our place at the top. I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m in a rich nation, it&#8217;s a terrible time to be poor.</p>
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		<title>By: Alpacaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alpacaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 03:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, but there is one point I would like to contest if possible, more for the record than anything else. Desertification in Africa is hugely overstated, the issue is a lot more contested among human geographers than it would seem to most people. The current discourse is 
that desertification, while widely reported by popular media, is not in fact desertification, rather, it is land degradation.

It sounds like semantics, but it isn&#039;t. Desertification is caused by climate change, and is nigh irrevesrible (Israel have reversed some, but at huge expense). Land degradation results from poor land use, often from commercial farming. More of a dustbowl type scenario. Traditional farming methods are increasingly being seen as ways to combat this land degradation, which is thankfully much easier to deal with than land degradation.

(In way of references: H.E. Dregne, J.A. Binns, Ridley Nelson (UN Envorinment Department))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, but there is one point I would like to contest if possible, more for the record than anything else. Desertification in Africa is hugely overstated, the issue is a lot more contested among human geographers than it would seem to most people. The current discourse is<br />
that desertification, while widely reported by popular media, is not in fact desertification, rather, it is land degradation.</p>
<p>It sounds like semantics, but it isn&#8217;t. Desertification is caused by climate change, and is nigh irrevesrible (Israel have reversed some, but at huge expense). Land degradation results from poor land use, often from commercial farming. More of a dustbowl type scenario. Traditional farming methods are increasingly being seen as ways to combat this land degradation, which is thankfully much easier to deal with than land degradation.</p>
<p>(In way of references: H.E. Dregne, J.A. Binns, Ridley Nelson (UN Envorinment Department))</p>
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		<title>By: Snig</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/07/tom-the-dancing-bug-hollings-2.html#comment-1577133</link>
		<dc:creator>Snig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compared to oil and coal, natural gas contributes less, compared to geothermal, wind solar, significantly more, unless new techniques are used for carbon sequestration. Also depends on methane leakage with fracking.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compared to oil and coal, natural gas contributes less, compared to geothermal, wind solar, significantly more, unless new techniques are used for carbon sequestration. Also depends on methane leakage with fracking.  </p>
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		<title>By: Aengil</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/07/tom-the-dancing-bug-hollings-2.html#comment-1576962</link>
		<dc:creator>Aengil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t be too hasty to write off cartoons! There&#039;s scientific data to support that conclusion. &quot;Using all available information and the latest climate science, we conclude that for most uses, the GHG footprint of shale gas is greater than that of other fossil fuels on time scales of up to 100 years.&quot; http://www.eeb.cornell.edu/howarth/Howarthetal2012_Final.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be too hasty to write off cartoons! There&#8217;s scientific data to support that conclusion. &#8220;Using all available information and the latest climate science, we conclude that for most uses, the GHG footprint of shale gas is greater than that of other fossil fuels on time scales of up to 100 years.&#8221; http://www.eeb.cornell.edu/howarth/Howarthetal2012_Final.pdf</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/07/tom-the-dancing-bug-hollings-2.html#comment-1576781</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disqus doesn&#039;t show me full context on the back side anymore.  Irksome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disqus doesn&#8217;t show me full context on the back side anymore.  Irksome.</p>
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		<title>By: SumAnon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/07/tom-the-dancing-bug-hollings-2.html#comment-1576774</link>
		<dc:creator>SumAnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> What about the Dust Bowl of the 1930s being caused by irresponsible farming and irrigation, the destruction of habitat and wildlife, and the decimation of forests and plains trees?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> What about the Dust Bowl of the 1930s being caused by irresponsible farming and irrigation, the destruction of habitat and wildlife, and the decimation of forests and plains trees?</p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, I think you might have missed my followup comment &lt;a href=&quot;http://boingboing.net/2012/11/07/tom-the-dancing-bug-hollings-2.html#comment-703184377&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;above&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, I think you might have missed my followup comment <a href="http://boingboing.net/2012/11/07/tom-the-dancing-bug-hollings-2.html#comment-703184377" rel="nofollow">above</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Millions of people in South/Central Asia have been living in tent camps for years now due to unprecedented flooding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Millions of people in South/Central Asia have been living in tent camps for years now due to unprecedented flooding.</p>
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		<title>By: Snig</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/07/tom-the-dancing-bug-hollings-2.html#comment-1576683</link>
		<dc:creator>Snig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But still worth making comments on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But still worth making comments on?</p>
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		<title>By: Ito Kagehisa</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/07/tom-the-dancing-bug-hollings-2.html#comment-1576672</link>
		<dc:creator>Ito Kagehisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So-called &quot;global warming&quot; is a symptom.  The &lt;i&gt;disease&lt;/i&gt; is pollution of shared commons like air and water.

We&#039;ve been feeling severe changes since long before I was born; we&#039;re in the middle of a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_event&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mass extinction event&lt;/a&gt; already.

I believe the &quot;big five&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skepticalscience.com/Earths-five-mass-extinction-events.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;known mass extinction events&lt;/a&gt; all lasted longer than the human species has existed.  It used to take a significant amount of time to modify the Earth&#039;s biosphere to the point that more than 50% of all animal species could no longer survive.  But humans are setting a new record this time around...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So-called &#8220;global warming&#8221; is a symptom.  The <i>disease</i> is pollution of shared commons like air and water.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been feeling severe changes since long before I was born; we&#8217;re in the middle of a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_event" rel="nofollow">mass extinction event</a> already.</p>
<p>I believe the &#8220;big five&#8221; <a href="http://www.skepticalscience.com/Earths-five-mass-extinction-events.html" rel="nofollow">known mass extinction events</a> all lasted longer than the human species has existed.  It used to take a significant amount of time to modify the Earth&#8217;s biosphere to the point that more than 50% of all animal species could no longer survive.  But humans are setting a new record this time around&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: chenille</title>
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		<dc:creator>chenille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course this features Chicken Little instead of Lucky Ducky, since there is no gotcha, but I appreciate his cameo on the roof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course this features Chicken Little instead of Lucky Ducky, since there is no gotcha, but I appreciate his cameo on the roof.</p>
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		<title>By: Guillaume Filion</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/07/tom-the-dancing-bug-hollings-2.html#comment-1576525</link>
		<dc:creator>Guillaume Filion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fracking is contributing to global warning?
That&#039;s it! That&#039;s the last time I take scientific data from a cartoon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fracking is contributing to global warning?<br />
That&#8217;s it! That&#8217;s the last time I take scientific data from a cartoon!</p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 20:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and the twisted irony that people who&#039;ll be the most devastated by climate change profited the least from our rampant consumption that contributed to it.

I agree with you that other parts of the world are certainly getting the brunt of climate change&#039;s disastrous effects as I mentioned previously here at DM:

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/and_now_the_thrilling_aftermath_of_sandy_crane_dangle_2012#comment-698458918

But, my point to you was that we shouldn&#039;t downplay how bad it&#039;s going to affect ALL of us.  Can you imagine the death toll in NYC if this had been a category 4 or 5 hurricane of Sandy&#039;s  trajectory and immense size?  It would&#039;ve very likely wiped many of those other death tolls off the map with NYC being under 20+ feet of water.  So while we are doing relative comparisons... that would have made Katrina look like a field day.

As the oceans continue to warm, there&#039;s no reason not to believe this isn&#039;t possible in the relatively near future.   These &quot;100 year storms&quot; are happening around every 7 years nowadays on the East Coast.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/troyonink/2012/10/28/7-year-storm-cycle-katrina-isaac-sandy-and-the-prefect-storm/

Also, all those fires out here in the West haven&#039;t been a thrillfest either.  I got to see blood-red skies and breathe toxic air this summer in the United States.

Look, we&#039;re ALL in for a hell ride.  I just wish the conservative climate change deniers were the first to go instead of taking the rest of us down with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and the twisted irony that people who&#8217;ll be the most devastated by climate change profited the least from our rampant consumption that contributed to it.</p>
<p>I agree with you that other parts of the world are certainly getting the brunt of climate change&#8217;s disastrous effects as I mentioned previously here at DM:</p>
<p><a href="http://dangerousminds.net/comments/and_now_the_thrilling_aftermath_of_sandy_crane_dangle_2012#comment-698458918" rel="nofollow">http://dangerousminds.net/comments/and_now_the_thrilling_aftermath_of_sandy_crane_dangle_2012#comment-698458918</a></p>
<p>But, my point to you was that we shouldn&#8217;t downplay how bad it&#8217;s going to affect ALL of us.  Can you imagine the death toll in NYC if this had been a category 4 or 5 hurricane of Sandy&#8217;s  trajectory and immense size?  It would&#8217;ve very likely wiped many of those other death tolls off the map with NYC being under 20+ feet of water.  So while we are doing relative comparisons&#8230; that would have made Katrina look like a field day.</p>
<p>As the oceans continue to warm, there&#8217;s no reason not to believe this isn&#8217;t possible in the relatively near future.   These &#8220;100 year storms&#8221; are happening around every 7 years nowadays on the East Coast.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/troyonink/2012/10/28/7-year-storm-cycle-katrina-isaac-sandy-and-the-prefect-storm/" rel="nofollow">http://www.forbes.com/sites/troyonink/2012/10/28/7-year-storm-cycle-katrina-isaac-sandy-and-the-prefect-storm/</a></p>
<p>Also, all those fires out here in the West haven&#8217;t been a thrillfest either.  I got to see blood-red skies and breathe toxic air this summer in the United States.</p>
<p>Look, we&#8217;re ALL in for a hell ride.  I just wish the conservative climate change deniers were the first to go instead of taking the rest of us down with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitchell Glaser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitchell Glaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 20:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The observation that rich people can ride out a lot of society&#039;s problems is not worth the effort of drawing or reading this comic.</description>
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		<title>By: ZikZak</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZikZak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the death toll from Sandy in the US?  85, last time I checked.  That&#039;s 1 in every 1,325,205 people who live on the East Coast.  Not to be insensitive - after all, even 1 death is a tragedy - but compare that to the death toll in Haiti: 1 in 155,750 deaths.  That&#039;s almost 10 times the death toll from the same storm!  Also factor in that much of the population of Haiti was already officially unaccounted for, living in shanties or refugee camps - it&#039;s likely that the official Hatian count is too low.

I feel bad for the American victims of climate change, but what we&#039;re going through is a faint shadow of what the world&#039;s poor have been living for years now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the death toll from Sandy in the US?  85, last time I checked.  That&#8217;s 1 in every 1,325,205 people who live on the East Coast.  Not to be insensitive &#8211; after all, even 1 death is a tragedy &#8211; but compare that to the death toll in Haiti: 1 in 155,750 deaths.  That&#8217;s almost 10 times the death toll from the same storm!  Also factor in that much of the population of Haiti was already officially unaccounted for, living in shanties or refugee camps &#8211; it&#8217;s likely that the official Hatian count is too low.</p>
<p>I feel bad for the American victims of climate change, but what we&#8217;re going through is a faint shadow of what the world&#8217;s poor have been living for years now.</p>
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		<title>By: Navin_Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Navin_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That will be a comfort to the 113 that have died so far.  But yes, I agree with the larger point that nations with limited infrastructure suffer much more drastically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That will be a comfort to the 113 that have died so far.  But yes, I agree with the larger point that nations with limited infrastructure suffer much more drastically.</p>
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		<title>By: wysinwyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>wysinwyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Yeah, I&#039;m sure the polar ice cap melting is just a bizarre coincidence.  Actions don&#039;t really have consequences, that&#039;s just liberal propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Yeah, I&#8217;m sure the polar ice cap melting is just a bizarre coincidence.  Actions don&#8217;t really have consequences, that&#8217;s just liberal propaganda.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Miller</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/07/tom-the-dancing-bug-hollings-2.html#comment-1576406</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 19:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Right now, we&#039;re suffering in a pretty much first-world-problems sort of way. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Right now, we&#8217;re suffering in a pretty much first-world-problems sort of way. </p>
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		<title>By: chgoliz</title>
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		<dc:creator>chgoliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 19:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not if there&#039;s less money in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not if there&#8217;s less money in it.</p>
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		<title>By: marktrail</title>
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		<dc:creator>marktrail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 19:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would probably be easier just to lower the baskets.</description>
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		<title>By: KibblesAhoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>KibblesAhoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have 30 years before the effects of TODAY&#039;s pollution is felt. We&#039;ve been actively destroying the planet for 150 years, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have 30 years before the effects of TODAY&#8217;s pollution is felt. We&#8217;ve been actively destroying the planet for 150 years, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/07/tom-the-dancing-bug-hollings-2.html#comment-1576360</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The grim fact is that those of us in the first world - especially the US - will always be the last to suffer.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Tell that to the East Coast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The grim fact is that those of us in the first world &#8211; especially the US &#8211; will always be the last to suffer.</p></blockquote>
<p>Tell that to the East Coast.</p>
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		<title>By: Nadreck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nadreck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And deserts, some newly created, are moving north at about the same rate as the &quot;plant hardiness&quot; zones.  So, for example, wheat and rice will no longer grow where we&#039;ve put all our wheat and rice farms, and their associated irrigation systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And deserts, some newly created, are moving north at about the same rate as the &#8220;plant hardiness&#8221; zones.  So, for example, wheat and rice will no longer grow where we&#8217;ve put all our wheat and rice farms, and their associated irrigation systems.</p>
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		<title>By: jimkirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimkirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An analogy I heard on NPR the other day:  imagine raising the floor of a basketball court by 6 inches.  There are going to be a lot more dunk shots.  No individual shot is directly caused by raising the floor, but the statistics will be affected.

Likewise global warming says that we will have more extreme weather; larger storms, hotter summers, colder winters, perhaps wetter or drier, depending on location.  No individual event directly caused by warming, but the statistics are affected.

One interesting thing, plant hardiness zones are moving north.  This is a longer term average type thing.  Again, no particular event directly caused by warming, but there&#039;s a trend.

http://blog.nwf.org/2012/01/new-plant-hardiness-zones-confirm-what-gardeners-already-know-about-global-warming/plant-hardiness-comparison/
And of course it depends on what you mean by &quot;severe&quot;.  Some folks thought Sandy was pretty severe, others may hold out for a storm of Hollywood special effects magnitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An analogy I heard on NPR the other day:  imagine raising the floor of a basketball court by 6 inches.  There are going to be a lot more dunk shots.  No individual shot is directly caused by raising the floor, but the statistics will be affected.</p>
<p>Likewise global warming says that we will have more extreme weather; larger storms, hotter summers, colder winters, perhaps wetter or drier, depending on location.  No individual event directly caused by warming, but the statistics are affected.</p>
<p>One interesting thing, plant hardiness zones are moving north.  This is a longer term average type thing.  Again, no particular event directly caused by warming, but there&#8217;s a trend.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.nwf.org/2012/01/new-plant-hardiness-zones-confirm-what-gardeners-already-know-about-global-warming/plant-hardiness-comparison/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.nwf.org/2012/01/new-plant-hardiness-zones-confirm-what-gardeners-already-know-about-global-warming/plant-hardiness-comparison/</a><br />
And of course it depends on what you mean by &#8220;severe&#8221;.  Some folks thought Sandy was pretty severe, others may hold out for a storm of Hollywood special effects magnitude.</p>
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		<title>By: googoogjoob</title>
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		<dc:creator>googoogjoob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> It&#039;s not possible to definitively blame anything on anthropogenic global warming and only it, but global warming has most certainly contributed to the increased frequency and strength of hurricanes etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> It&#8217;s not possible to definitively blame anything on anthropogenic global warming and only it, but global warming has most certainly contributed to the increased frequency and strength of hurricanes etc.</p>
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		<title>By: thunderhammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>thunderhammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m no climate change denialist, but is it a foregone conclusion that the recent hurricane is caused by global warming?  I thought we had a solid 20 or 30 years before severe changes were felt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no climate change denialist, but is it a foregone conclusion that the recent hurricane is caused by global warming?  I thought we had a solid 20 or 30 years before severe changes were felt.</p>
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		<title>By: matt H</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/07/tom-the-dancing-bug-hollings-2.html#comment-1576296</link>
		<dc:creator>matt H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I truly love psychosis so
and so I&#039;ll never let it go
I&#039;ll kiss it on the mouth a lot
a lot a lot a lot a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I truly love psychosis so<br />
and so I&#8217;ll never let it go<br />
I&#8217;ll kiss it on the mouth a lot<br />
a lot a lot a lot a lot.</p>
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