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	<title>Comments on: Philip Pullman&#039;s Grimm&#039;s&#160;Fairytales</title>
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		<title>By: doctorcavalier</title>
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		<dc:creator>doctorcavalier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cover art for the UK edition is really nice: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Grimm-Tales-Penguin-Hardback-Classics/dp/1846140269/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1352395966&amp;sr=8-1#reader_1846140269</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cover art for the UK edition is really nice: <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Grimm-Tales-Penguin-Hardback-Classics/dp/1846140269/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1352395966&#038;sr=8-1#reader_1846140269" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.co.uk/Grimm-Tales-Penguin-Hardback-Classics/dp/1846140269/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1352395966&#038;sr=8-1#reader_1846140269</a></p>
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		<title>By: jandrese</title>
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		<dc:creator>jandrese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it amusing that one of the things that apparently turned off a lot of readers in His Dark Materials was the fact that the underage protagonist and her sketchy boyfriend have sex (off camera, and only vaguely mentioned) in the third book.   

So he puts out a new book and has children spooning right on the cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it amusing that one of the things that apparently turned off a lot of readers in His Dark Materials was the fact that the underage protagonist and her sketchy boyfriend have sex (off camera, and only vaguely mentioned) in the third book.   </p>
<p>So he puts out a new book and has children spooning right on the cover.</p>
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		<title>By: jandrese</title>
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		<dc:creator>jandrese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aww, you missed the &quot;best&quot; part where the final book suddenly cuts away from the epic final confrontation to spend half of its pages espousing the benefits of Unitarian universalism with a bunch of weird but boring aliens.

The kids do kind of get their act together by the end of the second book though, just in time for the story to go completely off the rails.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aww, you missed the &#8220;best&#8221; part where the final book suddenly cuts away from the epic final confrontation to spend half of its pages espousing the benefits of Unitarian universalism with a bunch of weird but boring aliens.</p>
<p>The kids do kind of get their act together by the end of the second book though, just in time for the story to go completely off the rails.  </p>
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		<title>By: privatedick</title>
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		<dc:creator>privatedick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 15:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how he dealt with that Grimm classic, &quot;A Jew Among Thorns&quot;. Seriously, you can find it in any unabridged Grimm. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how he dealt with that Grimm classic, &#8220;A Jew Among Thorns&#8221;. Seriously, you can find it in any unabridged Grimm. </p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 15:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three scholars discuss Grimm&#039;s fairytales: 
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/iotc/iotc_20090205-0900a.mp3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three scholars discuss Grimm&#8217;s fairytales: <br />
<a href="http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/iotc/iotc_20090205-0900a.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/iotc/iotc_20090205-0900a.mp3</a></p>
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		<title>By: dragonfrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>dragonfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 15:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Pullman&#039;s Grimms are stories stripped to the bone, where every sentence just moves the thing forward&quot;

So, exactly the opposite of His Dark Materials.

So many people raved about how great that was, I forced myself through The Golden Compass (bzw. Northern Lights) and halfway into The Amber Spyglass, but I couldn&#039;t take the constant pattern of - children flail about aimlessly for a while - children hide as knowledgeable adults show up - adults have a long exposition-y discussion - children flail aimlessly some more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Pullman&#8217;s Grimms are stories stripped to the bone, where every sentence just moves the thing forward&#8221;</p>
<p>So, exactly the opposite of His Dark Materials.</p>
<p>So many people raved about how great that was, I forced myself through The Golden Compass (bzw. Northern Lights) and halfway into The Amber Spyglass, but I couldn&#8217;t take the constant pattern of &#8211; children flail about aimlessly for a while &#8211; children hide as knowledgeable adults show up &#8211; adults have a long exposition-y discussion &#8211; children flail aimlessly some more.</p>
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		<title>By: tw1515tw</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pullman pissed off a few people with his discussion of his book on BBC Radio 4 last month.

From http://sallypommeclayton.com/blog/?p=927:
&quot;The programme had come to the conclusion that no one tells Grimm’s fairytales any more. They also seemed to think there is no difference between reading a story and telling it. In fact Grimm’s fairytales are a staple part of a storytellers repertoire all over the world, tellers translate and translocate the stories, making them their own. Last year I had a dialogue with a group of storytellers in South India who were performing Grimm’s fairytales. Many of the stories in the Grimm’s collection are not unique to Germany, versions of them can be found in other cultures. I often compare different versions of a story, then stitch together my own.&quot;

There&#039;s nothing wrong with re-interpreting Grimm tales, but  if you don&#039;t understand the telling of the tale, you&#039;ll miss their essence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pullman pissed off a few people with his discussion of his book on BBC Radio 4 last month.</p>
<p>From http://sallypommeclayton.com/blog/?p=927:<br />
&#8220;The programme had come to the conclusion that no one tells Grimm’s fairytales any more. They also seemed to think there is no difference between reading a story and telling it. In fact Grimm’s fairytales are a staple part of a storytellers repertoire all over the world, tellers translate and translocate the stories, making them their own. Last year I had a dialogue with a group of storytellers in South India who were performing Grimm’s fairytales. Many of the stories in the Grimm’s collection are not unique to Germany, versions of them can be found in other cultures. I often compare different versions of a story, then stitch together my own.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with re-interpreting Grimm tales, but  if you don&#8217;t understand the telling of the tale, you&#8217;ll miss their essence.</p>
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