<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: The Turn of the Screw: James Watson on The Double Helix and his changing view of Rosalind&#160;Franklin</title>
	<atom:link href="http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html</link>
	<description>Brain candy for Happy Mutants</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 03:38:00 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Peter` Card</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1579824</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter` Card</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 22:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1579824</guid>
		<description>...  and The Fly. Goldblum is your go-to man for slightly unhinged scientists. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;  and The Fly. Goldblum is your go-to man for slightly unhinged scientists. </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Preston Sturges</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1579422</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston Sturges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 23:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1579422</guid>
		<description>Wasn&#039;t Linus Pauling generally considered the odds-on favorite to win this race?  He was an ardent x-ray crytallographer, but wasn&#039;t he convinced that it was a triple helix?  

Not everyone even believed that DNA was the genetic material and more than a scaffold. 

Merely figuring out that is was a duplex was not very important - the crucial  insight was that the strands are antiparallel and complementary, which makes the extremely mysterious replication mechanism obvious.   THAT was the real question - if DNA was important, how could so much of it replicate during the time of a cell cycle, and how could it contain enough complexity to make &quot;genes?&quot;

That is why they got the Nobel Prize for a ONE PAGE paper that ended on a wry observation about the implications for DNA replication and left the rest to the reader&#039;s imagination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t Linus Pauling generally considered the odds-on favorite to win this race?  He was an ardent x-ray crytallographer, but wasn&#8217;t he convinced that it was a triple helix?  </p>
<p>Not everyone even believed that DNA was the genetic material and more than a scaffold. </p>
<p>Merely figuring out that is was a duplex was not very important &#8211; the crucial  insight was that the strands are antiparallel and complementary, which makes the extremely mysterious replication mechanism obvious.   THAT was the real question &#8211; if DNA was important, how could so much of it replicate during the time of a cell cycle, and how could it contain enough complexity to make &#8220;genes?&#8221;</p>
<p>That is why they got the Nobel Prize for a ONE PAGE paper that ended on a wry observation about the implications for DNA replication and left the rest to the reader&#8217;s imagination.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Preston Sturges</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1579419</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston Sturges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 23:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1579419</guid>
		<description>Flawed personality hasn&#039;t slowed down Francis Collins</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flawed personality hasn&#8217;t slowed down Francis Collins</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: kattrby</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1579400</link>
		<dc:creator>kattrby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1579400</guid>
		<description>I am glad that David Shanahan has reminded us all of the epilogue. That has always stuck in my mind, too, from first reading the book; few books have such an important volte face at the end, but it is all the better for being a volte face.  Watson was, when breathlessly setting down what he had been a part of, a callow young man, and very much a callow young man of that time, in that place.  The epilogue - plainly tinged with guilt - is that same person trying to grow up a bit.

To revise the text would be a complete nonsense - however wrong-headed he may then have been, forcing him into some kind of sanitised recantation now would be deeply silly, and a bad betrayal of the real history, which does include his wrong-headedness.  Annotation is by far the best solution, not least because it shows up so many other kinds of wrong-headedness, in so many other people.  

</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad that David Shanahan has reminded us all of the epilogue. That has always stuck in my mind, too, from first reading the book; few books have such an important volte face at the end, but it is all the better for being a volte face.  Watson was, when breathlessly setting down what he had been a part of, a callow young man, and very much a callow young man of that time, in that place.  The epilogue &#8211; plainly tinged with guilt &#8211; is that same person trying to grow up a bit.</p>
<p>To revise the text would be a complete nonsense &#8211; however wrong-headed he may then have been, forcing him into some kind of sanitised recantation now would be deeply silly, and a bad betrayal of the real history, which does include his wrong-headedness.  Annotation is by far the best solution, not least because it shows up so many other kinds of wrong-headedness, in so many other people.  </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: penguinchris</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1579163</link>
		<dc:creator>penguinchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1579163</guid>
		<description>Thanks for this, Maggie, I love reading about stuff like this but know mostly the history of my own field (and some others, just not biology beyond Darwin really). I knew the basics of this story, but this writeup and interview piqued my interest quite a bit with intriguing details I wasn&#039;t aware of. I&#039;ll have to read the book. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, Maggie, I love reading about stuff like this but know mostly the history of my own field (and some others, just not biology beyond Darwin really). I knew the basics of this story, but this writeup and interview piqued my interest quite a bit with intriguing details I wasn&#8217;t aware of. I&#8217;ll have to read the book. </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: David Shanahan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1578931</link>
		<dc:creator>David Shanahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 02:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1578931</guid>
		<description>To be fair, the epilogue to the original edition of TDH goes to considerable lengths to make amends for earlier comments about Franklin -- e.g. &quot;Since my initial impressions of her, both scientific and personal (as recorded in the early pages of this book), were often wrong, I want to say something here about her achievements. [A summary follows of her &quot;superb&quot; work at King&#039;s on DNA structure and later at Bernal&#039;s lab on TMV] ... Because I was then teaching in the States, I did not see her as often as did Francis, to whom she frequently came to for advice when she had done something very pretty, to be sure he agreed with her reasoning. By then all traces of our early bickering were forgotten, and we both came to appreciate greatly her personal honesty and generosity, realising years too late the struggles that the intelligent woman faces to be accepted by a scientific world which often regards women as mere diversions from serious thinking. Rosalind&#039;s exemplary courage and integrity were apparent to all when, knowing she was mortally ill, she did not complain but continued working on a high level until a few weeks before her death.&quot;

Given all the fuss people have made about Crick and Watson&#039;s treatment of Franklin over the years as recounted in TDH I often wonder if anyone actually read the epilogue!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, the epilogue to the original edition of TDH goes to considerable lengths to make amends for earlier comments about Franklin &#8212; e.g. &#8220;Since my initial impressions of her, both scientific and personal (as recorded in the early pages of this book), were often wrong, I want to say something here about her achievements. [A summary follows of her "superb" work at King's on DNA structure and later at Bernal's lab on TMV] &#8230; Because I was then teaching in the States, I did not see her as often as did Francis, to whom she frequently came to for advice when she had done something very pretty, to be sure he agreed with her reasoning. By then all traces of our early bickering were forgotten, and we both came to appreciate greatly her personal honesty and generosity, realising years too late the struggles that the intelligent woman faces to be accepted by a scientific world which often regards women as mere diversions from serious thinking. Rosalind&#8217;s exemplary courage and integrity were apparent to all when, knowing she was mortally ill, she did not complain but continued working on a high level until a few weeks before her death.&#8221;</p>
<p>Given all the fuss people have made about Crick and Watson&#8217;s treatment of Franklin over the years as recounted in TDH I often wonder if anyone actually read the epilogue!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Massgenomics</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1578371</link>
		<dc:creator>Massgenomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1578371</guid>
		<description>Great article! I recently &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://massgenomics.org/2012/10/the-double-helix-book-by-james-d-watson.html&quot; TITLE=&quot;Double Helix Book Review&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reread and reviewed&lt;/A&gt; &lt;I&gt;Double Helix&lt;/I&gt; on my blog; all controversies aside, it&#039;s a book that really gives a frank picture of how cutting-edge science was done at the time, and I think anyone working in genetics or genomics should read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article! I recently <a HREF="http://massgenomics.org/2012/10/the-double-helix-book-by-james-d-watson.html" TITLE="Double Helix Book Review" rel="nofollow">reread and reviewed</a> <i>Double Helix</i> on my blog; all controversies aside, it&#8217;s a book that really gives a frank picture of how cutting-edge science was done at the time, and I think anyone working in genetics or genomics should read it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Michael Lerman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1578367</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Lerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1578367</guid>
		<description>The problem is longevity. In the olden times people would die before becoming famous. Now they live longer, forget the past and create confusion. Michael Lerman, M.D., Ph.D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is longevity. In the olden times people would die before becoming famous. Now they live longer, forget the past and create confusion. Michael Lerman, M.D., Ph.D.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ocker3</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577915</link>
		<dc:creator>ocker3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 07:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577915</guid>
		<description> Curie and Franklin, two great female scientists who gave their lives to science. Not just their natural span of years, their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Curie and Franklin, two great female scientists who gave their lives to science. Not just their natural span of years, their lives.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Austin Elliott</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577569</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 22:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577569</guid>
		<description>My own father Gerald Elliott went to King&#039;s as a grad student in the biophysics unit in 1953, sharing a lab with Ray Gosling, and thus knew many of the protagonists in the events. He would, I think, concur with the view that unit boss JT Randall (who was my dad&#039;s PhD supervisor) was the true &#039;author&#039; of much of what followed by his unfortunate treatment of Wilkins and Franklin.

Rosalind Franklin has become such a symbolic figure that it is now hard to separate facts from myths. However, in the rush to see Franklin as wronged, it needs to be recalled that Wilkins was a senior independent scientist, had laid a lot of groundwork for the DNA work, and had obtained the actual DNA samples Franklin went on to take x-ray pictures of. All this was then essentially taken off him by the unit head (Randall) and given to Franklin. So it could be argued with a good deal of justification that the DNA project at King&#039;s was very much Wilkins&#039; baby, and would not have existed for Franklin to take forward without years of Wilkins&#039; groundwork. 

As my dad has often expressed, the general view in structural biology later on was that the DNA structure had four &#039;parents&#039; - Crick, Watson, Franklin and WIlkins (although some people would also argue for adding Erwin Chargaff, whose base ratios A=T and G=C provided a vital clue). Of the four, the general view was that the Cambridge duo deserved the most credit, as they were the ones who correctly deduced the structure. Franklin did not get the credit she deserved at the time, and was dead by the time the Nobel was awarded. But the kind of received popular view that Wilkins was a usurper of credit due to Franklin seems to me to be a distortion, and at odds with the recollections of those who were there.

I discuss some of this in &lt;a href=&quot;http://occamstypewriter.org/notranting/2010/10/03/dna_-_letters_stories_and_narratives/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a blogpost over here&lt;/a&gt;, written a few years ago and triggered by reports of the discovery of some of Crick and Wilkins&#039; old correspondence, which I guess is featured in the new edition of &lt;i&gt;The Double Helix&lt;/i&gt;.

Austin Elliott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My own father Gerald Elliott went to King&#8217;s as a grad student in the biophysics unit in 1953, sharing a lab with Ray Gosling, and thus knew many of the protagonists in the events. He would, I think, concur with the view that unit boss JT Randall (who was my dad&#8217;s PhD supervisor) was the true &#8216;author&#8217; of much of what followed by his unfortunate treatment of Wilkins and Franklin.</p>
<p>Rosalind Franklin has become such a symbolic figure that it is now hard to separate facts from myths. However, in the rush to see Franklin as wronged, it needs to be recalled that Wilkins was a senior independent scientist, had laid a lot of groundwork for the DNA work, and had obtained the actual DNA samples Franklin went on to take x-ray pictures of. All this was then essentially taken off him by the unit head (Randall) and given to Franklin. So it could be argued with a good deal of justification that the DNA project at King&#8217;s was very much Wilkins&#8217; baby, and would not have existed for Franklin to take forward without years of Wilkins&#8217; groundwork. </p>
<p>As my dad has often expressed, the general view in structural biology later on was that the DNA structure had four &#8216;parents&#8217; &#8211; Crick, Watson, Franklin and WIlkins (although some people would also argue for adding Erwin Chargaff, whose base ratios A=T and G=C provided a vital clue). Of the four, the general view was that the Cambridge duo deserved the most credit, as they were the ones who correctly deduced the structure. Franklin did not get the credit she deserved at the time, and was dead by the time the Nobel was awarded. But the kind of received popular view that Wilkins was a usurper of credit due to Franklin seems to me to be a distortion, and at odds with the recollections of those who were there.</p>
<p>I discuss some of this in <a href="http://occamstypewriter.org/notranting/2010/10/03/dna_-_letters_stories_and_narratives/" rel="nofollow">a blogpost over here</a>, written a few years ago and triggered by reports of the discovery of some of Crick and Wilkins&#8217; old correspondence, which I guess is featured in the new edition of <i>The Double Helix</i>.</p>
<p>Austin Elliott</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bemopolis</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577510</link>
		<dc:creator>Bemopolis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 21:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577510</guid>
		<description>It&#039;s also commonly found under the title &quot;The Race For The Double Helix&quot;.  It is quite fantastic, especially if you see it soon after reading Watson&#039;s book, so you can really enjoy Stevenson&#039;s Franklin dealing with his sexist crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also commonly found under the title &#8220;The Race For The Double Helix&#8221;.  It is quite fantastic, especially if you see it soon after reading Watson&#8217;s book, so you can really enjoy Stevenson&#8217;s Franklin dealing with his sexist crap.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Greg Tulonen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577507</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Tulonen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 20:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577507</guid>
		<description> (and also cub, apparently)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> (and also cub, apparently)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: cub</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577486</link>
		<dc:creator>cub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577486</guid>
		<description>http://www.harkavagrant.com/history/rosalindsm.png</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.harkavagrant.com/history/rosalindsm.png" rel="nofollow">http://www.harkavagrant.com/history/rosalindsm.png</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Greg Tulonen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577479</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Tulonen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 20:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577479</guid>
		<description>Someone needs to post a link to Kate Beaton&#039;s wonderful Rosalind Franklin comic, and I guess today, that someone is me:  http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=240</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone needs to post a link to Kate Beaton&#8217;s wonderful Rosalind Franklin comic, and I guess today, that someone is me:  <a href="http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=240" rel="nofollow">http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=240</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: glen_glenn</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577456</link>
		<dc:creator>glen_glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 20:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577456</guid>
		<description>Here&#039;s a brief online exhibit regarding the publishing of the Double Helix: http://library.cshl.edu/naturalbestseller/

FYI -- All of the Watson and Crick papers (owned by Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory and Wellcome Trust, respectively) are being digitized as we speak, and will be made available online next year.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a brief online exhibit regarding the publishing of the Double Helix: <a href="http://library.cshl.edu/naturalbestseller/" rel="nofollow">http://library.cshl.edu/naturalbestseller/</a></p>
<p>FYI &#8212; All of the Watson and Crick papers (owned by Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory and Wellcome Trust, respectively) are being digitized as we speak, and will be made available online next year.  </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: eplum</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577419</link>
		<dc:creator>eplum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 20:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577419</guid>
		<description> Thanks for the interesting post.  

However, Franklin did not actually do x-ray crystallography of DNA.  Unlike globular proteins or t-RNA, polymeric nucleic acids cannot be induced to form single crystals suitable for x-ray analysis.  Instead, at that time they were limited to analyzing the x-ray diffraction patterns from nucleic acid fibers.  The samples were prepared by drawing fibers from highly concentrated, viscous gels prepared by alcohol precipitation of the DNA from aqueous solution. In the resulting fibers, the DNA molecules line up in parallel in quasi-crystalline arrays. From the patterns of x-rays diffracted by these fibers, the primary structural motif of DNA was discerned.

The modern ability to chemically synthesize short DNA molecules (oligodeoxyribonucleotides) of high purity has made x-ray crystallography of DNA possible.  In this case, the structures DNA and many DNA-protein and DNA-drug complexes can be determined at atomic resolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Thanks for the interesting post.  </p>
<p>However, Franklin did not actually do x-ray crystallography of DNA.  Unlike globular proteins or t-RNA, polymeric nucleic acids cannot be induced to form single crystals suitable for x-ray analysis.  Instead, at that time they were limited to analyzing the x-ray diffraction patterns from nucleic acid fibers.  The samples were prepared by drawing fibers from highly concentrated, viscous gels prepared by alcohol precipitation of the DNA from aqueous solution. In the resulting fibers, the DNA molecules line up in parallel in quasi-crystalline arrays. From the patterns of x-rays diffracted by these fibers, the primary structural motif of DNA was discerned.</p>
<p>The modern ability to chemically synthesize short DNA molecules (oligodeoxyribonucleotides) of high purity has made x-ray crystallography of DNA possible.  In this case, the structures DNA and many DNA-protein and DNA-drug complexes can be determined at atomic resolution.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Nathan Hornby</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577304</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Hornby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 18:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577304</guid>
		<description>I lived in a building named after the chap once.

For anyone interested…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in a building named after the chap once.</p>
<p>For anyone interested…</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: crankypage</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577250</link>
		<dc:creator>crankypage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 18:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577250</guid>
		<description>I&#039;m teasing. The race controversy is likely why he would only do an interview in email format these days. If you&#039;d gone there he (or likely, his transcribing secretary) would have stopped replying. 


Watson is such a lost opportunity for the US to have a real national &quot;science dean.&quot; He&#039;s entertaining enough that he could have been a wonderful public ambassador for molecular biology, except his personality is so deeply flawed as not to allow it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m teasing. The race controversy is likely why he would only do an interview in email format these days. If you&#8217;d gone there he (or likely, his transcribing secretary) would have stopped replying. </p>
<p>Watson is such a lost opportunity for the US to have a real national &#8220;science dean.&#8221; He&#8217;s entertaining enough that he could have been a wonderful public ambassador for molecular biology, except his personality is so deeply flawed as not to allow it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: silkox</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577249</link>
		<dc:creator>silkox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577249</guid>
		<description>I&#039;ve always felt that, because the discovery of the structure of DNA was such a monumentally epic part of the history of science, it required the sacrifice of a virgin. Reading between the lines of Maddox&#039;s excellent biography, I got the feeling she had similar thoughts. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always felt that, because the discovery of the structure of DNA was such a monumentally epic part of the history of science, it required the sacrifice of a virgin. Reading between the lines of Maddox&#8217;s excellent biography, I got the feeling she had similar thoughts. </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Maggie Koerth-Baker</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577232</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie Koerth-Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577232</guid>
		<description>Oh, I&#039;m familiar. I didn&#039;t ask about them because they don&#039;t come up in The Double Helix and with such a limited interview format I wanted to stay on-topic. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#8217;m familiar. I didn&#8217;t ask about them because they don&#8217;t come up in The Double Helix and with such a limited interview format I wanted to stay on-topic. </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jonathan Badger</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577218</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577218</guid>
		<description>Yes, I&#039;d second that. Plus I liked the use of Delerue&#039;s &quot;The Grand Choral&quot; (more recently used in &quot;The Fantastic Mr. Fox&quot;) on the soundtrack. And you get to see Goldblum play basically the same character he later played in &quot;Independence Day&quot; and &quot;Jurassic Park&quot; -- so maybe where he got typecast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#8217;d second that. Plus I liked the use of Delerue&#8217;s &#8220;The Grand Choral&#8221; (more recently used in &#8220;The Fantastic Mr. Fox&#8221;) on the soundtrack. And you get to see Goldblum play basically the same character he later played in &#8220;Independence Day&#8221; and &#8220;Jurassic Park&#8221; &#8212; so maybe where he got typecast.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: crankypage</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577215</link>
		<dc:creator>crankypage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577215</guid>
		<description>It is unfortunate that you did not ask him about his views on race. They&#039;re... intriguing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is unfortunate that you did not ask him about his views on race. They&#8217;re&#8230; intriguing.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Emlyn Addison</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577213</link>
		<dc:creator>Emlyn Addison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577213</guid>
		<description>So after all that, the question, as it was posed, is essentially not answered (although the true question, I suspect, will never be asked). 


I read Brenda Maddox&#039;s 2003 book and came away with the distinct impression that the few moments that the scientists had had access to that X-ray photograph of Franklin&#039;s were not just instrumental but formative to the work that Watson and Crick undertook in the hours, days and weeks after. 

Yes, I could be wrong, but I don&#039;t think that I am. There is nothing to suggest that Franklin, had she returned to the laboratory and continued her work, wouldn&#039;t herself have eventually realized the importance of that X-ray photograph. She was scooped, and not in a very generous light, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So after all that, the question, as it was posed, is essentially not answered (although the true question, I suspect, will never be asked). </p>
<p>I read Brenda Maddox&#8217;s 2003 book and came away with the distinct impression that the few moments that the scientists had had access to that X-ray photograph of Franklin&#8217;s were not just instrumental but formative to the work that Watson and Crick undertook in the hours, days and weeks after. </p>
<p>Yes, I could be wrong, but I don&#8217;t think that I am. There is nothing to suggest that Franklin, had she returned to the laboratory and continued her work, wouldn&#8217;t herself have eventually realized the importance of that X-ray photograph. She was scooped, and not in a very generous light, either.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Snig</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577211</link>
		<dc:creator>Snig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577211</guid>
		<description>Crick (i can&#039;t find the quote), supposedly said that the original book was &quot;a pack of lies&quot;, but I may be misremembering.  Watson has been quite overt in sexism over the years, so he certainly has some issues.  I&#039;m hoping that his recent memoir reflects recognition of this and growth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crick (i can&#8217;t find the quote), supposedly said that the original book was &#8220;a pack of lies&#8221;, but I may be misremembering.  Watson has been quite overt in sexism over the years, so he certainly has some issues.  I&#8217;m hoping that his recent memoir reflects recognition of this and growth.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jonathan Badger</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577184</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577184</guid>
		<description>It&#039;s also worth remembering that Franklin remained quite a good friend of Francis Crick and his wife, even staying with them while she was undergoing treatment for her cancer. So maybe it was Watson who was the problem there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also worth remembering that Franklin remained quite a good friend of Francis Crick and his wife, even staying with them while she was undergoing treatment for her cancer. So maybe it was Watson who was the problem there.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lexicat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577179</link>
		<dc:creator>Lexicat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577179</guid>
		<description>Bravo, Maggie. I recently listened to LA Theatre Works&#039; production of Photograph 51, a theatrical montage concerning Dr. Franklin&#039;s work and relationships with the people you write about here. It&#039;s compassionate, funny and poignant. And you might enjoy:  http://latw.nfshost.com/wp2/?p=263

Also, this play is part of LATW&#039;s Relativity Series, which are plays about science, math and society, and there are some real gems in there (including Tom Stoppard&#039;s Arcadia):  http://latw.nfshost.com/wp2/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo, Maggie. I recently listened to LA Theatre Works&#8217; production of Photograph 51, a theatrical montage concerning Dr. Franklin&#8217;s work and relationships with the people you write about here. It&#8217;s compassionate, funny and poignant. And you might enjoy:  <a href="http://latw.nfshost.com/wp2/?p=263" rel="nofollow">http://latw.nfshost.com/wp2/?p=263</a></p>
<p>Also, this play is part of LATW&#8217;s Relativity Series, which are plays about science, math and society, and there are some real gems in there (including Tom Stoppard&#8217;s Arcadia):  <a href="http://latw.nfshost.com/wp2/" rel="nofollow">http://latw.nfshost.com/wp2/</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Adam Bowie</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577181</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Bowie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577181</guid>
		<description>If you can find it somewhere, I&#039;d heartily recommend &quot;Life Story&quot;, a TV movie from 1987 starring Jeff Goldblum as Watson and Juliet Stevenson as Franklin. I think it pretty fairly captures what was happening at the time, remembering when it was made in relation to more recent books. It covers the same ground, dramatising in quite a compelling way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can find it somewhere, I&#8217;d heartily recommend &#8220;Life Story&#8221;, a TV movie from 1987 starring Jeff Goldblum as Watson and Juliet Stevenson as Franklin. I think it pretty fairly captures what was happening at the time, remembering when it was made in relation to more recent books. It covers the same ground, dramatising in quite a compelling way.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Maggie Koerth-Baker</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577129</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie Koerth-Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577129</guid>
		<description>That &quot;honest Jim&quot; bit is one of the places where you start to suspect that Watson wasn&#039;t very good at noticing when he wasn&#039;t liked. Another is where he talks about meeting Maurice Wilkins for the first time. The annotated version then includes this delightful detail from Wilkins&#039; perspective: &quot;Wilkins told Gosling about Watson (describing him as a gangly young American). He instructed Gosling that if Watson showed up at King&#039;s Gosling was to say that Wilkins had &#039;left the country&#039;.&quot; LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That &#8220;honest Jim&#8221; bit is one of the places where you start to suspect that Watson wasn&#8217;t very good at noticing when he wasn&#8217;t liked. Another is where he talks about meeting Maurice Wilkins for the first time. The annotated version then includes this delightful detail from Wilkins&#8217; perspective: &#8220;Wilkins told Gosling about Watson (describing him as a gangly young American). He instructed Gosling that if Watson showed up at King&#8217;s Gosling was to say that Wilkins had &#8216;left the country&#8217;.&#8221; LOL</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Snig</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577125</link>
		<dc:creator>Snig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577125</guid>
		<description>Interesting.  In my senior year as a biology major, we read &quot;the double helix&quot;, along with a Franklin biography that refuted many &quot;facts&quot; of the former.  Watson oddly started his book with an anecdote of chance meeting with a colleague who commented archly &quot;How&#039;s honest Jim&quot; and then avoiding further conversation.  I&#039;ve also wondered if Franklin&#039;s cancer was caused by radiation/chemical exposure, as researchers back then had less protective measures.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  In my senior year as a biology major, we read &#8220;the double helix&#8221;, along with a Franklin biography that refuted many &#8220;facts&#8221; of the former.  Watson oddly started his book with an anecdote of chance meeting with a colleague who commented archly &#8220;How&#8217;s honest Jim&#8221; and then avoiding further conversation.  I&#8217;ve also wondered if Franklin&#8217;s cancer was caused by radiation/chemical exposure, as researchers back then had less protective measures.  </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: calvinav</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-turn-of-the-screw-james-w.html#comment-1577118</link>
		<dc:creator>calvinav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boingboing.net/?p=192739#comment-1577118</guid>
		<description>Nice interview, good to get more information about this very intriguing part of scientific history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice interview, good to get more information about this very intriguing part of scientific history.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
