Comments on: Precisely why the Daily Mail is irredeemable shit http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sun, 19 May 2013 10:06:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Kate Smith http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1581123 Kate Smith Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1581123 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI the best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI

the best

]]> By: wreckrob8 http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1581076 wreckrob8 Tue, 13 Nov 2012 06:59:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1581076 That has always been the case. The threat of changing political allegiances is what proprietors and editors use to keep politicians in line. Many readers buy a tabloid because of its sport coverage, its horoscope, page three or its women's pages. Loyal readers mostly will not be consciously swayed by any particular stance on news items. When they feel that a paper has gone too far they can boycott it viz. The Sun post Hillsborough in Liverpool. There is hope, yet. That has always been the case. The threat of changing political allegiances is what proprietors and editors use to keep politicians in line. Many readers buy a tabloid because of its sport coverage, its horoscope, page three or its women’s pages. Loyal readers mostly will not be consciously swayed by any particular stance on news items. When they feel that a paper has gone too far they can boycott it viz. The Sun post Hillsborough in Liverpool. There is hope, yet.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1580740 Antinous / Moderator Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1580740 Contrary to popular belief, the Mail is not consistently right wing. They'll print whatever sells. Contrary to popular belief, the Mail is not consistently right wing. They’ll print whatever sells.

]]> By: webstu http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1580537 webstu Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1580537 Advertising-supported mass media, in general, promotes fear, because advertisers are offering "solutions" to the fears in your life.  Take the evening news, a horrid reality show, or a "Woman in Jeopardy" movie -- yes, that is an actual genre (e.g., the entire Lifetime channel) -- and break it up with a few dozen commercials for anxiety medications... Ka-ching. As it turns out, it works well for any advertising and in any media as well, including newspapers. Advertising-supported mass media, in general, promotes fear, because advertisers are offering “solutions” to the fears in your life. 

Take the evening news, a horrid reality show, or a “Woman in Jeopardy” movie — yes, that is an actual genre (e.g., the entire Lifetime channel) — and break it up with a few dozen commercials for anxiety medications… Ka-ching.

As it turns out, it works well for any advertising and in any media as well, including newspapers.

]]> By: Matthew Petty http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1580469 Matthew Petty Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1580469 The Express. My parents used to read it when it was a broadsheet called The Daily Express. I don't know if it was crap then, but it certainly is now. The Express. My parents used to read it when it was a broadsheet called The Daily Express. I don’t know if it was crap then, but it certainly is now.

]]> By: Sparg http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1580446 Sparg Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1580446 Thanks to your link I now know that narwhals stop Cthulhu from eating me!  Lost an hour in Weebl's vids. Thanks to your link I now know that narwhals stop Cthulhu from eating me!  Lost an hour in Weebl’s vids.

]]> By: Itsumishi http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1580348 Itsumishi Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1580348 In all honesty I don't know how bad the Mail is, but I'm well aware of how absolutely dodgy both ACA and Today Tonight are. In all honesty I don’t know how bad the Mail is, but I’m well aware of how absolutely dodgy both ACA and Today Tonight are.

]]> By: Sparg http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1580341 Sparg Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1580341 My favorite paper for laughs in the States is the <a href="http://weeklyworldnews.com" rel="nofollow">Weekly World News</a>.  Best source for "news" of the Bat Boy, invading Grays, and superfat babies.  Fine reading for happy mutants everywhere. My favorite paper for laughs in the States is the Weekly World News.  Best source for “news” of the Bat Boy, invading Grays, and superfat babies.  Fine reading for happy mutants everywhere.

]]> By: kringlebertfistyebuns http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1580319 kringlebertfistyebuns Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:54:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1580319 Thanks to the Internet, one need not ever read a physical copy of the Daily Mail, or ever step foot in the UK to experience its pernicious effects. In the US, for example, the Daily Mail is sometimes promoted by conservatives as a reliable source of information about social and political topics. Thanks to the Internet, one need not ever read a physical copy of the Daily Mail, or ever step foot in the UK to experience its pernicious effects.

In the US, for example, the Daily Mail is sometimes promoted by conservatives as a reliable source of information about social and political topics.

]]> By: eviladrian http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579846 eviladrian Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579846  Oh gawd, I had to watch the Chaser Affair reel to wash my brain out after that one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHso1e6NY90  Oh gawd, I had to watch the Chaser Affair reel to wash my brain out after that one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHso1e6NY90

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579804 Antinous / Moderator Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:25:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579804 How is a description of one's own specific personal experiences 'generalization'? Are we supposed to pretend that people everywhere are morally and politically fungible? How is a description of one’s own specific personal experiences ‘generalization’? Are we supposed to pretend that people everywhere are morally and politically fungible?

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579803 Antinous / Moderator Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579803 Behold Paul Dacre, the human nutcracker. Behold Paul Dacre, the human nutcracker.

]]> By: DewiMorgan http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579777 DewiMorgan Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579777 Probably since I've not read it since the 80's, I thought the Mail was on a par with, say, the Mirror, and above the Sun and the Sport (which are basically comics for simple adults, but with poorer graphics). It's a tabloid, so it's 50% hype, 50% racism, 50% illicit sex, and 50% celebrities (with considerable overlap). Probably since I’ve not read it since the 80′s, I thought the Mail was on a par with, say, the Mirror, and above the Sun and the Sport (which are basically comics for simple adults, but with poorer graphics). It’s a tabloid, so it’s 50% hype, 50% racism, 50% illicit sex, and 50% celebrities (with considerable overlap).

]]> By: BlackPanda http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579711 BlackPanda Sun, 11 Nov 2012 18:25:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579711 GAY PIGEON AIDS STOLE MY BABY FROM POLISH CANNABIS HELL. GAY PIGEON AIDS STOLE MY BABY FROM POLISH CANNABIS HELL.

]]> By: iCowboy http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579622 iCowboy Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579622 And the Mail is already using it to beat up Leveson demanding that they are not regulated but the BBC should be (from toady's MoS): "We must be careful here to ensure that politicians do not gain power over the BBC. It is vital it remains independent of government. But some way should be found of giving the public – who pay for it – more of a say in its governance.It is striking that, as Lord Justice Leveson is expected to recommend statutory regulation of newspapers, there is still no plan to create an effective external watchdog for the BBC, a body that has been needed for many years. Newspapers are commercially independent. The BBC is financed by a national poll tax enforced by the threat of prison. Newspapers are varied and competitive. The BBC is a national monopoly whose rivals are far smaller and weaker.Surely – especially now it has shown it can and does sometimes behave more irresponsibly than the most raucous newspaper – there is a far stronger case for BBC regulation than for placing legal chains on the press?" And the Mail is already using it to beat up Leveson demanding that they are not regulated but the BBC should be (from toady’s MoS):
“We must be careful here to ensure that politicians do not gain power over the BBC. It is vital it remains independent of government. But some way should be found of giving the public – who pay for it – more of a say in its governance.It is striking that, as Lord Justice Leveson is expected to recommend statutory regulation of newspapers, there is still no plan to create an effective external watchdog for the BBC, a body that has been needed for many years. Newspapers are commercially independent. The BBC is financed by a national poll tax enforced by the threat of prison. Newspapers are varied and competitive. The BBC is a national monopoly whose rivals are far smaller and weaker.Surely – especially now it has shown it can and does sometimes behave more irresponsibly than the most raucous newspaper – there is a far stronger case for BBC regulation than for placing legal chains on the press?”

]]> By: iCowboy http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579621 iCowboy Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579621 'thank you! not living anywhere near the UK i may never see a copy of the daily mail' Distressingly British Airways hand out copies of the Mail to passengers on their flights. I imagine thousands of passengers, trapped in their seats think they're being taken to a country filled with neo Nazi long-lens photographers taking photos of children so that they can ward off gay muslim atheist disabled immigrants who have created a cancer solely to crash house prices in order that the BBC can rule over us all. ‘thank you! not living anywhere near the UK i may never see a copy of the daily mail’

Distressingly British Airways hand out copies of the Mail to passengers on their flights. I imagine thousands of passengers, trapped in their seats think they’re being taken to a country filled with neo Nazi long-lens photographers taking photos of children so that they can ward off gay muslim atheist disabled immigrants who have created a cancer solely to crash house prices in order that the BBC can rule over us all.

]]> By: iCowboy http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579620 iCowboy Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579620 Their website is incredibly cleverly laid out.  Scandal and sleaze on the lefthand side of the page, slappers on the right. So you can follow the relentless march of cellulite through Hollywood and the terminally sagging breasts of your favourite micro celebrities whilst the main article is kindly informing you that Twitter causes cancer. And dare I say it that the Mail isn't actually worst paper in Britain. For that you'd need to go to the Express. Unlike the Mail which carefully codes its language and relies on insinuation to whip up hatred, the Express is nakedly racist. My parents read the Express and I was shocked how they began to perceive the world through that prism - the EU was destroying Britain, Muslims hated our country, everyone on benefits was a scrounged. So I bought them an annual subscription to the i and they're nearly back to normal and now realise what a horrible worldview they'd been exposed to. It wouldn't surprise you to know that the Mail is determined that Lord Leveson doesn't impose statutory regulation on the press. For that reason alone, it has to be done. Their website is incredibly cleverly laid out. 
Scandal and sleaze on the lefthand side of the page, slappers on the right. So you can follow the relentless march of cellulite through Hollywood and the terminally sagging breasts of your favourite micro celebrities whilst the main article is kindly informing you that Twitter causes cancer.

And dare I say it that the Mail isn’t actually worst paper in Britain. For that you’d need to go to the Express. Unlike the Mail which carefully codes its language and relies on insinuation to whip up hatred, the Express is nakedly racist. My parents read the Express and I was shocked how they began to perceive the world through that prism – the EU was destroying Britain, Muslims hated our country, everyone on benefits was a scrounged. So I bought them an annual subscription to the i and they’re nearly back to normal and now realise what a horrible worldview they’d been exposed to.

It wouldn’t surprise you to know that the Mail is determined that Lord Leveson doesn’t impose statutory regulation on the press. For that reason alone, it has to be done.

]]> By: Girard http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579605 Girard Sun, 11 Nov 2012 13:14:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579605  When the punchline lands, it makes it clear what he's doing. However, the way he keeps smacking his lips during that whole opening discussion doesn't really do much to alleviate the 'skeeve' factor even when you know what he's doing.  When the punchline lands, it makes it clear what he’s doing. However, the way he keeps smacking his lips during that whole opening discussion doesn’t really do much to alleviate the ‘skeeve’ factor even when you know what he’s doing.

]]> By: Tony Coleby http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579598 Tony Coleby Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579598 That's some nice Daily Mail style generalisation there, fancy a job in journalism? That’s some nice Daily Mail style generalisation there, fancy a job in journalism?

]]> By: Tony Coleby http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579595 Tony Coleby Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579595 Spot on. The Bild, much like The Sun, is generally laughable rather than simply evil. The Hillsborough affair excepted of course... Spot on. The Bild, much like The Sun, is generally laughable rather than simply evil. The Hillsborough affair excepted of course…

]]> By: Tony Coleby http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579593 Tony Coleby Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579593 Yes but in the case of the Daily Mail, the single filter that all this has to go through is the editor. Imagining that there is a single malevolent curator of shite and hatred behind all of modern television rather than a general lowering of standards is not the same thing. Yes but in the case of the Daily Mail, the single filter that all this has to go through is the editor. Imagining that there is a single malevolent curator of shite and hatred behind all of modern television rather than a general lowering of standards is not the same thing.

]]> By: gehringer http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579588 gehringer Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579588  "This internet pervert's been taking horrible upskirt photos!  Here, have a look at how horrible they are!"  ”This internet pervert’s been taking horrible upskirt photos!  Here, have a look at how horrible they are!”

]]> By: knoxblox http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579586 knoxblox Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:09:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579586  Side note: As for the subject of this news blurb, I think this would be one of the benefits of living in the UK and partaking of the wonderful/hateful thing called The BBC. They get badgers, we get Whitney.  Side note: As for the subject of this news blurb, I think this would be one of the benefits of living in the UK and partaking of the wonderful/hateful thing called The BBC.

They get badgers, we get Whitney.

]]> By: That_Anonymous_Coward http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579566 That_Anonymous_Coward Sun, 11 Nov 2012 10:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579566 Badgers on Shrooms have a wild ride on a stolen snake... film at 11.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI Badgers on Shrooms have a wild ride on a stolen snake… film at 11….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI

]]> By: wreckrob8 http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579564 wreckrob8 Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579564 The worst is Melanie 'I should know fucking better, but don't give a fuck anymore' Phillips - a former Guardian columnist and a supposedly serious journalist. The worst is Melanie ‘I should know fucking better, but don’t give a fuck anymore’ Phillips – a former Guardian columnist and a supposedly serious journalist.

]]> By: That_Anonymous_Coward http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579560 That_Anonymous_Coward Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579560 I do not think you can blame it all on Beck, oh fuck did I just say that, but more so on a country tearing itself apart to find the boogeyman they promise us they will find if we give up a little more freedom... to be safe.  If we give up a few more rights... we'll be safe.  If we trust that the FBI caught real terrorists and not some easily manipulated morons they have to explain to that they hated america and wanted to bomb it and hand them the plan and a box of playdough with wires on it. They sold us on fear and distrust of people who were "different"... are we surprised that history repeated itself and those with more radical visions took up that mantle and went even further? I do not think you can blame it all on Beck, oh fuck did I just say that, but more so on a country tearing itself apart to find the boogeyman they promise us they will find if we give up a little more freedom… to be safe.  If we give up a few more rights… we’ll be safe.  If we trust that the FBI caught real terrorists and not some easily manipulated morons they have to explain to that they hated america and wanted to bomb it and hand them the plan and a box of playdough with wires on it.

They sold us on fear and distrust of people who were “different”… are we surprised that history repeated itself and those with more radical visions took up that mantle and went even further?

]]> By: That_Anonymous_Coward http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579558 That_Anonymous_Coward Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579558 David Cameron can read?! I thought he was just some sort of puppet with some sweaty dudes hand stuffed up his.... nevermind... David Cameron can read?!
I thought he was just some sort of puppet with some sweaty dudes hand stuffed up his…. nevermind…

]]> By: Alexandros http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579557 Alexandros Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579557 Neh, the "Bild" is more like "the Sun", vile, but not as vile as the "Daily Mail". The Bild is at least not fueling racism and anti-EU sentiments in the way the "Daily Mail" does (they are pretty much the propaganda organ of the UKIP). Also the "Bild" will never be as obsessed with WW" and Nazi stories as the "Daily Fail". Besides the smaller, local Tabloids, like the "EXPRESS", the "Hamburger Morgenpost" or the "Berliner Kurier" are far worse. No argument on RTL and their retarded little brother RTL2 thou... Neh, the “Bild” is more like “the Sun”, vile, but not as vile as the “Daily Mail”. The Bild is at least not fueling racism and anti-EU sentiments in the way the “Daily Mail” does (they are pretty much the propaganda organ of the UKIP). Also the “Bild” will never be as obsessed with WW” and Nazi stories as the “Daily Fail”.
Besides the smaller, local Tabloids, like the “EXPRESS”, the “Hamburger Morgenpost” or the “Berliner Kurier” are far worse.
No argument on RTL and their retarded little brother RTL2 thou…

]]> By: devophill http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579537 devophill Sun, 11 Nov 2012 07:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579537  You're right. I can't read that at all.  You’re right. I can’t read that at all.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/11/10/precisely-why-the-daily-ma.html#comment-1579526 Antinous / Moderator Sun, 11 Nov 2012 06:16:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=193277#comment-1579526 But when they're funny, they're funny. <blockquote>And the crisis deepened last night as it was claimed that the former director-general personally intervened to axe a Panorama investigation into two newspaper tycoons, which was due to be aired tomorrow. According to well-placed BBC sources, Mr Entwistle ordered the programme on Daily Telegraph owners Sir Frederick and Sir David Barclay to be pulled as he believed it was ‘risky’ – but did not fully explain what he meant. It will be replaced by a documentary about badgers.</blockquote> But when they’re funny, they’re funny.

And the crisis deepened last night as it was claimed that the former director-general personally intervened to axe a Panorama investigation into two newspaper tycoons, which was due to be aired tomorrow. According to well-placed BBC sources, Mr Entwistle ordered the programme on Daily Telegraph owners Sir Frederick and Sir David Barclay to be pulled as he believed it was ‘risky’ – but did not fully explain what he meant.

It will be replaced by a documentary about badgers.

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