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	<title>Comments on: 1 WTC (Freedom Tower) as æolian&#160;harp</title>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2012/11/12/freedom-tower-as-aeolian-harp.html#comment-1583533</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this one, you can see clouds going into it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkjA3BvvOuw&amp;feature=endscreen&amp;NR=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this one, you can see clouds going into it: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkjA3BvvOuw&#038;feature=endscreen&#038;NR=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkjA3BvvOuw&#038;feature=endscreen&#038;NR=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zak McKracken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zak McKracken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Aeolian harps don&#039;t need strings, just some roughly cylindrical shape that will create a regular unsteady wake (called a &quot;von Karman vortex street&quot;), and  usually will vibrate at the same frequency. That said, I highly doubt that the building is actually causing a wake vibrating in the audible spectrum, as the oscillation period of a vortex street is usually in the order of magnitude of the time it takes the wind to get past the object. In order to get in the order of 100 Hz (audible, rather low tone) and a building diameter of about 50m (base edge length is 61m, at the top 43m) the wind would have to blow at 5.000 m/s, that&#039;s about 21 times the speed of sound...

also, I don&#039;t think the building can vibrate at audible frequencies...



I&#039;d much rather think that some antenna or part of a scaffolding in the vicinity was making that noise. Or maybe just some cavity in the building (which would make this a Helmholtz-Resonator)? It&#039;s most definitely not an aeolian harp, though, and it&#039;s most certainly not by design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Aeolian harps don&#8217;t need strings, just some roughly cylindrical shape that will create a regular unsteady wake (called a &#8220;von Karman vortex street&#8221;), and  usually will vibrate at the same frequency. That said, I highly doubt that the building is actually causing a wake vibrating in the audible spectrum, as the oscillation period of a vortex street is usually in the order of magnitude of the time it takes the wind to get past the object. In order to get in the order of 100 Hz (audible, rather low tone) and a building diameter of about 50m (base edge length is 61m, at the top 43m) the wind would have to blow at 5.000 m/s, that&#8217;s about 21 times the speed of sound&#8230;</p>
<p>also, I don&#8217;t think the building can vibrate at audible frequencies&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d much rather think that some antenna or part of a scaffolding in the vicinity was making that noise. Or maybe just some cavity in the building (which would make this a Helmholtz-Resonator)? It&#8217;s most definitely not an aeolian harp, though, and it&#8217;s most certainly not by design.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon_Mahna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon_Mahna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say it&#039;s beautiful. But then again I also leave http://wheelof.com/stars/ up and going for sleep music.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say it&#8217;s beautiful. But then again I also leave <a href="http://wheelof.com/stars/" rel="nofollow">http://wheelof.com/stars/</a> up and going for sleep music&#8230;. </p>
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		<title>By: ocker3</title>
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		<dc:creator>ocker3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 05:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I couldn&#039;t really tell, anyone have a higher-quality version?

I wasn&#039;t actually sure if the guy was being serious</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I couldn&#8217;t really tell, anyone have a higher-quality version?</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t actually sure if the guy was being serious</p>
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		<title>By: spejic</title>
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		<dc:creator>spejic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 00:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t æolian harp&#039;s have strings? I think this sound may be closer to the Wind Harp just north of San Francisco Airport, which gets its similarly whale-songish sounds from the vibration of the whole lattice-shaped structure.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t æolian harp&#8217;s have strings? I think this sound may be closer to the Wind Harp just north of San Francisco Airport, which gets its similarly whale-songish sounds from the vibration of the whole lattice-shaped structure.</p>
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		<title>By: wrybread</title>
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		<dc:creator>wrybread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m voting lovely too.

And I was visiting NYC during the storm, it wasn&#039;t doom for everyone by a long shot. My favorite story:

I was walking to a friend&#039;s apartment just as the storm was about to hit. Stopped in a bar to get out of the wind for a second and the mayor was on TV telling everyone to GET INSIDE! DOOM! So i walked the last couple of blocks, and sure enough the wind kicked up a big notch and all hell was breaking loose. We opened the window to look outside and all the trees were going berzerk, we had to shout to be heard, and it looked like if I had still been outside I&#039;d have been in trouble. Just then a guy comes into view walking his lap dog while smoking a frickin cigarette, right in the worst part of the wind.  His little dog lifts his leg to pee, no big whoop.

Oh well.

Not to discount the damage the storm inflicted in some places, but it was far from doom everywhere. 

And parenthetically, an additional +1 for not calling it &quot;Freedom Tower&quot;. And well said Joshua Ochs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m voting lovely too.</p>
<p>And I was visiting NYC during the storm, it wasn&#8217;t doom for everyone by a long shot. My favorite story:</p>
<p>I was walking to a friend&#8217;s apartment just as the storm was about to hit. Stopped in a bar to get out of the wind for a second and the mayor was on TV telling everyone to GET INSIDE! DOOM! So i walked the last couple of blocks, and sure enough the wind kicked up a big notch and all hell was breaking loose. We opened the window to look outside and all the trees were going berzerk, we had to shout to be heard, and it looked like if I had still been outside I&#8217;d have been in trouble. Just then a guy comes into view walking his lap dog while smoking a frickin cigarette, right in the worst part of the wind.  His little dog lifts his leg to pee, no big whoop.</p>
<p>Oh well.</p>
<p>Not to discount the damage the storm inflicted in some places, but it was far from doom everywhere. </p>
<p>And parenthetically, an additional +1 for not calling it &#8220;Freedom Tower&#8221;. And well said Joshua Ochs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashen Victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashen Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It´s invoking Yog-Sothoth!  </description>
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		<title>By: Boundegar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boundegar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely perhaps, unless it presages your imminent doom.</description>
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		<title>By: alexb</title>
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		<dc:creator>alexb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it&#039;s horrible, it sounds creepily like a jet engine running at low revs in a test stand - I used to live near an engine service depot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#8217;s horrible, it sounds creepily like a jet engine running at low revs in a test stand &#8211; I used to live near an engine service depot.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Far from a horrible sound, a lovely sound.</description>
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		<title>By: mccrum</title>
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		<dc:creator>mccrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention that 1WTC is the actual name of the building and not Freedom Tower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention that 1WTC is the actual name of the building and not Freedom Tower.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Ochs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Ochs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, &quot;Freedom Tower&quot; just brings back all of the fake fear-based &quot;patriotism&quot; we were subjected to for a decade. Not to mention that &quot;1 World Trade Center&quot; is much more evocative of the event that brought it about, and deserves to be remembered respectfully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, &#8220;Freedom Tower&#8221; just brings back all of the fake fear-based &#8220;patriotism&#8221; we were subjected to for a decade. Not to mention that &#8220;1 World Trade Center&#8221; is much more evocative of the event that brought it about, and deserves to be remembered respectfully.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Rubin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Rubin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please refer to it as 1 World Trade Center and not &quot;Freedom Tower.&quot; Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please refer to it as 1 World Trade Center and not &#8220;Freedom Tower.&#8221; Thank you.</p>
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