Comments on: Dr. Strangelove: Gen. Buck Turgidson reacts to Petraeus scandal http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sun, 19 May 2013 18:09:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: RobertDavidSTEELEVivas http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1583804 RobertDavidSTEELEVivas Fri, 16 Nov 2012 00:25:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1583804 Petraeus was a political execution.  A number of us have covered this from many angles (including Boing Boing) at Phi Beta Iota the Public Intelligence Blog.  I now believe that Benghazi was a Syrian government or Russian government sponosred attack to shut down CIA smuggling arms to Syrian rebels, the other piece was the car bomb that took out the key CIA front man, a Lebanese general, on 19 October.  I believe that Obama put the FBI on to the emails of all the right-leaning flag officers because he feared a false flag attack on Iran by Admiral Cosgrove then the new Admiral that was just relieved, and the FBI ended up finding all this personal dirt.  I do not believe Petraeus needed to resign, I believe he was pushed out the door by Clapper to make room for Vickers, and there is still a great deal more of this story to be known.  Our master post, the map of all assets 1-2 hours from Benghazi while White House sleft for sevel hours, including list and links for all our posts.  Enjoy. http://www.phibetaiota.net/2012/11/graphic-benghazi-and-the-failure-of-political-command/ Petraeus was a political execution.  A number of us have covered this from many angles (including Boing Boing) at Phi Beta Iota the Public Intelligence Blog.  I now believe that Benghazi was a Syrian government or Russian government sponosred attack to shut down CIA smuggling arms to Syrian rebels, the other piece was the car bomb that took out the key CIA front man, a Lebanese general, on 19 October.  I believe that Obama put the FBI on to the emails of all the right-leaning flag officers because he feared a false flag attack on Iran by Admiral Cosgrove then the new Admiral that was just relieved, and the FBI ended up finding all this personal dirt.  I do not believe Petraeus needed to resign, I believe he was pushed out the door by Clapper to make room for Vickers, and there is still a great deal more of this story to be known.  Our master post, the map of all assets 1-2 hours from Benghazi while White House sleft for sevel hours, including list and links for all our posts.  Enjoy.

http://www.phibetaiota.net/2012/11/graphic-benghazi-and-the-failure-of-political-command/

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1582639 Antinous / Moderator Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1582639 Stanley McChrystal dramatically reduce civilian casualties in Afghanistan. He didn't last long until he was replaced by Petraeus. And he was actually fired. Fired for being snarky about the President. Stanley McChrystal dramatically reduce civilian casualties in Afghanistan. He didn’t last long until he was replaced by Petraeus. And he was actually fired. Fired for being snarky about the President.

]]> By: Ian G http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1582243 Ian G Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1582243 And for those who believe that Obama isn't as hawkish and brutal as Bush, getting rid of Petraeus is a good thing; it sounds as if he stonewalled the President's work for a more sensible Iraq/Afghanistan policy. http://www.democracynow.org/2012/11/12/juan_cole_real_petraeus_failure_was I don't get the crush that everyone seems to have on Petraeus, I don't care about his early morning runs or how rock hard his abs are, his leadership appears criminal. And for those who believe that Obama isn’t as hawkish and brutal as Bush, getting rid of Petraeus is a good thing; it sounds as if he stonewalled the President’s work for a more sensible Iraq/Afghanistan policy.

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/11/12/juan_cole_real_petraeus_failure_was

I don’t get the crush that everyone seems to have on Petraeus, I don’t care about his early morning runs or how rock hard his abs are, his leadership appears criminal.

]]> By: acerplatanoides http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1582161 acerplatanoides Wed, 14 Nov 2012 07:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1582161  If I had leaked secrets to my mistress, who blabbed them, I would feel the way you said he says he does.  If I had leaked secrets to my mistress, who blabbed them, I would feel the way you said he says he does.

]]> By: niktemadur http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1582156 niktemadur Wed, 14 Nov 2012 07:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1582156 - It's 3 o'clock in the morning! - Weh-heh-heh-ll, the Air Force never sleeps. - Buck, honey, I'm not sleepy either... - I know how it is, baby. Tell you what you do: you just start your countdown, and old Bucky'll be back here before you can say "Blast off!" - It’s 3 o’clock in the morning!
- Weh-heh-heh-ll, the Air Force never sleeps.
- Buck, honey, I’m not sleepy either…
- I know how it is, baby. Tell you what you do: you just start your countdown, and old Bucky’ll be back here before you can say “Blast off!”

]]> By: robcat2075 http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1582123 robcat2075 Wed, 14 Nov 2012 05:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1582123 Why did he resign?  There is the remote possibility that he is actually and genuinely ashamed and feels he is no longer appropriate for the position of responsibility he had. No, I don't believe it either, but that's the face value of his resignation explanation. Why did he resign?  There is the remote possibility that he is actually and genuinely ashamed and feels he is no longer appropriate for the position of responsibility he had.

No, I don’t believe it either, but that’s the face value of his resignation explanation.

]]> By: FoolishOwl http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1582100 FoolishOwl Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1582100 Personally, I'm undecided what to make of this, and I go back and forth. On the one hand, I'm happy to indulge in schadenfreude, to see powerful people have their cultivated personas of brilliance and competence torn away. And, I'm glad to see a blow against their absurd, hypocritical sexual morality. On the other hand, Petraeus is part of a brutal war machine, and helped establish the bureaucratic machinery for semi-automated mass murder by drone strikes -- an abuse of power of the first order. But shortly after the revelation of the creation of the NCTC and the "disposition matrix", we're laughing at Petraeus as silly old man having sexual affairs, rather than demanding that he and other leading officials be tried for war crimes. Not of course that any such trials are likely, but we could at least be making the powers-that-be more uncomfortable. The best available approach, I suppose, is both to mock Petraeus and company, and to call them out as murderers. Personally, I’m undecided what to make of this, and I go back and forth.

On the one hand, I’m happy to indulge in schadenfreude, to see powerful people have their cultivated personas of brilliance and competence torn away. And, I’m glad to see a blow against their absurd, hypocritical sexual morality.

On the other hand, Petraeus is part of a brutal war machine, and helped establish the bureaucratic machinery for semi-automated mass murder by drone strikes — an abuse of power of the first order. But shortly after the revelation of the creation of the NCTC and the “disposition matrix”, we’re laughing at Petraeus as silly old man having sexual affairs, rather than demanding that he and other leading officials be tried for war crimes. Not of course that any such trials are likely, but we could at least be making the powers-that-be more uncomfortable.

The best available approach, I suppose, is both to mock Petraeus and company, and to call them out as murderers.

]]> By: FoolishOwl http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1582095 FoolishOwl Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1582095 As I recall, General Ripper explains that he came to the conclusion that fluoridation was a plot to corrupt "our precious bodily fluids" when he felt weak and tired after "performing the act of physical love". So yes, that's exactly what he meant. As I recall, General Ripper explains that he came to the conclusion that fluoridation was a plot to corrupt “our precious bodily fluids” when he felt weak and tired after “performing the act of physical love”. So yes, that’s exactly what he meant.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1582066 Antinous / Moderator Wed, 14 Nov 2012 03:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1582066 Here's your animated Ninja gif.  http://mhambi.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/PINKFLOYDJIGGIN.gif Here’s your animated Ninja gif.  http://mhambi.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/PINKFLOYDJIGGIN.gif

]]> By: acerplatanoides http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1582052 acerplatanoides Wed, 14 Nov 2012 03:09:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1582052 Patreus has bosses other than the President, so there are plausible scenarios in which one of them knew, and made exactly that request. Time will answer that question, more than likely. I'm still not understanding how this is convenient for the administration. Could you elaborate on that? One of which things that transcend party? Patreus has bosses other than the President, so there are plausible scenarios in which one of them knew, and made exactly that request. Time will answer that question, more than likely.

I’m still not understanding how this is convenient for the administration. Could you elaborate on that? One of which things that transcend party?

]]> By: EH http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1582035 EH Wed, 14 Nov 2012 02:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1582035 I think it's highly convenient drama considering the circumstances of second-term mutation of the administration's goals. That is to say that this just might be one of those things that transcends party. I mean, wouldn't Petraeus lose face if he was simply asked for his resignation?  I think it’s highly convenient drama considering the circumstances of second-term mutation of the administration’s goals. That is to say that this just might be one of those things that transcends party. I mean, wouldn’t Petraeus lose face if he was simply asked for his resignation? 

]]> By: Dave X http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1582031 Dave X Wed, 14 Nov 2012 02:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1582031  Just came here to say this. Have an upvote.  Just came here to say this. Have an upvote.

]]> By: acerplatanoides http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1582023 acerplatanoides Wed, 14 Nov 2012 02:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1582023  i hadn't heard the cannon part yet.  i hadn’t heard the cannon part yet.

]]> By: Daniel Feito http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1581978 Daniel Feito Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:44:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1581978 For a second I thought it was Ninja from Die Antwoord. For a second I thought it was Ninja from Die Antwoord.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1581949 Antinous / Moderator Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1581949 I think that she's what's known as a "loose cannon". I think that she’s what’s known as a “loose cannon”.

]]> By: acerplatanoides http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1581909 acerplatanoides Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1581909 I think there are so many because the Boingers find it interesting, which they keep saying in their posts. I'm content to take their stated opinion as their honest opinion. Not because I share it. Though i do. This is weird, interesting, and newsworthy. I believe that you are seeing so many posts about it on BB because you, like I, subscribe to their newsletter. I think there are so many because the Boingers find it interesting, which they keep saying in their posts. I’m content to take their stated opinion as their honest opinion. Not because I share it. Though i do. This is weird, interesting, and newsworthy.

I believe that you are seeing so many posts about it on BB because you, like I, subscribe to their newsletter.

]]> By: acerplatanoides http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1581906 acerplatanoides Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1581906 I've noted it. I'm apparently not getting the full insinuation. This is one actual problem, among many. I guess i assume that each party has a point person on this. I don't see that fact alone as indicating someone is up to anything. I think if it had happened last week a lot of people, who were running for office last week, would have a lot to say. I’ve noted it. I’m apparently not getting the full insinuation. This is one actual problem, among many. I guess i assume that each party has a point person on this. I don’t see that fact alone as indicating someone is up to anything.

I think if it had happened last week a lot of people, who were running for office last week, would have a lot to say.

]]> By: acerplatanoides http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1581902 acerplatanoides Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1581902 IMHO, this isn't nothing: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/11/broadwell-benghazi/ IMHO, this isn’t nothing:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/11/broadwell-benghazi/

]]> By: tmcsweeney http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1581879 tmcsweeney Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1581879 What about Under Cover operations? What about Under Cover operations?

]]> By: Sagodjur http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1581871 Sagodjur Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1581871 Mr. President, we must not allow a scandal coverage gap! Mr. President, we must not allow a scandal coverage gap!

]]> By: EH http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1581862 EH Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:51:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1581862 Because Obama is rejiggering his administration and sexytimes keeps the flashlight away from his talks toward gutting Social Security. Sure, we need a change in military concerns, but what else is going on? Note that everybody besides attack-dogs Feinstein and Cantor are pretty much radio-silent these days. Because Obama is rejiggering his administration and sexytimes keeps the flashlight away from his talks toward gutting Social Security. Sure, we need a change in military concerns, but what else is going on? Note that everybody besides attack-dogs Feinstein and Cantor are pretty much radio-silent these days.

]]> By: awjt http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1581854 awjt Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:47:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1581854 It's because he slept around AND flapped his lips... It’s because he slept around AND flapped his lips…

]]> By: Pag http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1581845 Pag Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1581845 I'm kinda confused about why there's so much press about the Petraeus affair. The boss of the CIA slept around -- so what? I can sorta see why he'd leave his job because of this, but I don't understand why everybody is talking about it. Why are there so many posts about this on Boing Boing? I’m kinda confused about why there’s so much press about the Petraeus affair. The boss of the CIA slept around — so what? I can sorta see why he’d leave his job because of this, but I don’t understand why everybody is talking about it. Why are there so many posts about this on Boing Boing?

]]> By: Michael Smith http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1581838 Michael Smith Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:38:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1581838 Jack D Ripper would have denied his essence to Paula Broadwell. Jack D Ripper would have denied his essence to Paula Broadwell.

]]> By: Brainspore http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1581828 Brainspore Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1581828 It certainly calls his ability to carry out covert operations into question. It certainly calls his ability to carry out covert operations into question.

]]> By: gsilas http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1581826 gsilas Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:27:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1581826 Yikes, I didn't realize that's what he meant by our precious bodily fluids. Yikes, I didn’t realize that’s what he meant by our precious bodily fluids.

]]> By: OldBrownSquirrel http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1581806 OldBrownSquirrel Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1581806 It's amusing to look back and realize that this was in many ways George C. Scott's screen test for "Patton." It’s amusing to look back and realize that this was in many ways George C. Scott’s screen test for “Patton.”

]]> By: Dan Hibiki http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/dr-strangelove-gen-buck-tur.html#comment-1581797 Dan Hibiki Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:14:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=194004#comment-1581797 Buck is very confused as to why any of this is an issue. Unless.... Was she a commie? No? oh... Then why is there a problem again? Buck is very confused as to why any of this is an issue. Unless…. Was she a commie? No? oh… Then why is there a problem again?

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