Comments on: Was someone at CENTCOM fluffing for Jill Kelley on Wikipedia?

By: thespiansareweird

thespiansareweird — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:11:00 +0000

btw, I work in the eDiscovery http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_discovery Pages are often used in regards to the collection of email or electronic documents as it is a holdover baseline from the days of reviewing/collecting paper documents. It is also a pretty good benchmark for quantity of email, since if you were to print them all to TIFF it would equal 30K pages (since you would get a new doc break at each new email, but some emails can go on and on and on) which gives a scope of the amount.

As a guide, the industry standard of amounts etc is that 1GB = 5k Docs/50K pages of material. So all in all, this is prolly around 600MB of email they collected.

By: feetleet

feetleet — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:38:00 +0000

Surely, I can’t be the first person to put this together, but just in case – ‘Jill Kelly’ (without an ‘e’) is the stage name of a famous 90′s-era porn star. I don’t know who this CENTCOM girl is, but if she’s ‘fluffing for Jill Kelley’, you know she’s going places.

By: OtherMichael

OtherMichael — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:16:00 +0000

If only there was some way that the “Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail” wouldn’t actually print when you actually print out the rest of the email.

By: jbond

jbond — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:53:00 +0000

huh huh hu huh. She said, ‘Fluffing’.

By: Gyrofrog

Gyrofrog — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 05:02:00 +0000

That’s creepy/funny

By: FoolishOwl

FoolishOwl — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:12:00 +0000

The skills of guessing what the other person is up to and timing your responses appropriately are directly transferable.

My partner and I prefer to use verbal communication and body language to directly communicate what we would like from each other, rather than each of us guessing what the other wants or imposing our wills arbitrarily. Maybe we’re just kinky that way.

By: jmv

jmv — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 03:05:00 +0000

Interesting, I didn’t realize Arcadia University was once known as Beaver Female Seminary.

By: blueelm

blueelm — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 02:11:00 +0000

The talented Mrs. Kelly?

By: Teresa Nielsen Hayden

Teresa Nielsen Hayden — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 02:01:00 +0000

Jael and Sisera (and Barak)!

By: SedanChair

SedanChair — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:38:00 +0000

“Jill Kelley, amateur ambassador, queen of palace intrigue, CHIEF HARPY PRIESTESS SLUT of the base’s COVEN OF WITCHES that EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT, PRANCING AROUND”

By: rattypilgrim

rattypilgrim — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:36:00 +0000

Tacitus? Grock!

By: rattypilgrim

rattypilgrim — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:35:00 +0000

Yes. it does, especially after reading (thanks Antinous) that she phoned 911 several times last week to complain about reporters on her property and claimed she was an “honorary diplomat” and due the same protection as the real thing. The chess reference sounds equally sarcastic. But that could be my own projection.

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:28:00 +0000

Ms. Kelley fills in the time honoured role of “camp follower” that you can read all about at least as far back as Kipling.

Kipling? Tacitus!

By: Nadreck

Nadreck — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:24:00 +0000

It all seems pretty traditional. In “On the Psychology of Military Incompetence”, in the appendix on competency, Dixon points out that every really great general in history had a *very* active sex life. The skills of guessing what the other person is up to and timing your responses appropriately are directly transferable. A very active curiosity, a willingness to go exploring and compassion (as in an *appropriate* level of compassion for your troops) are must-haves in both fields. By comparison, the dolts who cause military debacles are generally in the closet about everything.

Ms. Kelley fills in the time honoured role of “camp follower” that you can read all about at least as far back as Kipling.

The only novel aspect of things is the new panopticon of the Internet. Even there, there was a lot of speculation about the moral effects of panopticons back in the Victorian era.

By: Michael Smith

Michael Smith — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:59:00 +0000

The actual smtp and pop streams have to be ascii text, hence uuencode and base64. It is most likely that the FBI would be given those streams, but turning attachments back into binary files is trivial. I am sure they have tools to do that.

By: Stryx Varia

Stryx Varia — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:52:00 +0000

Seriously tho. I’ve gone back through old email backups and the attached images are stored as binaries, just a solid page of text. The FBI wouldn’t get punked by a service provider like that would they? I mean google wouldn’t just hand over one bigass text file and the FBI prints it out to see the patterns, right?

By: samari711

samari711 — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:46:00 +0000

It’s a Proxy server with heavy content filtering I’m sure

By: samari711

samari711 — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:39:00 +0000

That sounds like a snarky comment left by one of the few people at CENTCOM who weren’t enamored with Jill Kelley

By: jhoosier

jhoosier — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:22:00 +0000

“John R. Allen (born December 15, 1953) is a United States Marine Corps four-star general and had pancakes for breakfast this morning, followed by a satisfactory BM.”

By: acerplatanoides

acerplatanoides — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:04:00 +0000

Perhaps it was shaved. ;)

By: acerplatanoides

acerplatanoides — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:01:00 +0000

nothing to see here? Is that your drift?

By: Jim Saul

Jim Saul — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:58:00 +0000

How are pdf attachments counted? If they were sending bootleg copies of “50 Shades of Camouflage” to each other, how many pages is that?

By: LinkMan

LinkMan — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:46:00 +0000

Once you eliminate 28,000 pages of quoted replies, 1,000 pages of “Bill Gates will give you $100 to forward this” and 500 pages that consist only of “Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail” (which always seems to run over to the next page when you do need to print out that e-mail), there’s just not that much left.

By: Donald Petersen

Donald Petersen — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:38:00 +0000

My theories? I’m sorry, I have none. This particular tempest in Uncle Sam’s teabarrel is beyond me. I patiently await the miniseries.

By: Michael Smith

Michael Smith — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:32:00 +0000

Maybe its just a gateway with NAT behind it.

By: Michael Smith

Michael Smith — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:30:00 +0000

30000 pages * 80 columns * 80 rows * 6/8 (assuming base64 encoding) gives 144 megabytes. So maybe these two were emailing word documents to each other for a while. Does the FBI print binaries out then manually decode them? Maybe they are trying to decrypt it ;)

One place I had to send binary files to had this fantastic email gateway which was better than me at detecting attached files. I had to pgp encode my data, ascii armour it, strip off the pgp header and footer and separately send instructions for the receiver to put their own header and footer on. That got it through.

By: Teresa Nielsen Hayden

Teresa Nielsen Hayden — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:25:00 +0000

I don’t give a damn about the adultery angle. Officials who work at Petraeus’s and Allen’s level of discretion shouldn’t go anywhere near such a tangled mess of flaky people, informal social connections, and unaccountable expenditures. Don’t they know a giant hairball security risk when they see one?

By: gsilas

gsilas — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:24:00 +0000

Well, that IP address has quite the history of military related edits, but only one for the John Allen page. If I had a wikipedia page, I would edit it daily!

By: Scott Alexander

Scott Alexander — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:24:00 +0000

It gets weirder…
http://www.slate.com/blogs/trending/2012/11/13/paula_broadwell_on_wikipedia_petraeus_affair_alleged_on_wikipedia_in_january.html

By: Ethan Taliesin Houser

Ethan Taliesin Houser — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:23:00 +0000

General John Allen is a total studmuffin and he’s only getting sexier with age!